In churches bordering the Democratic Republic of Congo to avoid unnecessary contact This includes not performing the right of peace where members of a congregation greet each other by shaking hands or hugging. A police department in Texas has apologized after photos emerged of 2 white officers on horseback leading a black man on a rope through the streets of Galveston Shonagh on her reports the photos have shocked and appalled many for some the images of vocal America's dark past of segregation slavery and lynching the man has been named as 43 year old Donald Neely he was arrested in the city of Galveston on Saturday for trespass officers apparently made the decision to leave him by horse because a patrol car wasn't available today the chief of Galveston police issued a statement apologizing to Mr Neely for the unnecessary embarrassment and said his officers would no longer detain suspects in that way you're a guy in Venezuela have issued travel warnings about the United States following last weekend shooting in El Paso in Dayton which killed more than 30 people Europe wise foreign ministry urged people to be cautious amid what it said was the growing indiscriminately violence in the u.s. Specifically hate crimes and racism b.b.c. News. With the. Hello this is the arts hour on the b.b.c. World Service I'm Mickey Beatty here with 60 minutes of the best global arts and culture conversation from across the b.b.c. And beyond coming up on today's show it's 25 years since the original Disney Lion King put it back on our big screens this time in the hands of director John Fabro we'll hear from him in just a moment French fashion designer and cultural icon John Paul goatee is celebrating 50 years in the industry with a cabaret style stage show or huge time it's an adventure but now I think like fashion it's no more like to work it's more like to make a. Sure people are interested to see grows as a sure we go Luna traveling with American musician Laurie Anderson he was an artist in residence at NASA so they were looking through the budget of the space program and going hey 3 trillion for spy satellites great $80000000000.00 for really crazy Shield where you sit in $20000.00 for an artist in residence this is an outrage. And we'll be talking all things moon with one of my 2 guests today Melanie Vandenberg our curator of the moon exhibition at the National Maritime Museum here in London and joining her we welcome back film critic and tell me tell let me ask you both 1st of all do you have maybe a favorite film or a novel or a piece of art about the moon or travel to the main Melanie I'll come to you 1st well one of the outworks that I'm really excited to be showing in the expression is actually work a film it is for our a mon's woman in the main by Fritz line from 1929 to sun and maybe I am incredibly smitten about this movie it is incredibly prescient Fritz Lang and he's wife and screenwriter theory of an hour created this extraordinary work of art in which they foreshadow many of the aspects of the Apatow space program when you said that that was your choice and talk was why you play do you know the film I don't know the film and I really enjoyed it so that's not your favorite piece of moon inspired Alice is it I think it's hard to pick a favorite but I really love Duncan Jones in which Sam Rockwell plays a character who is alone looking after a mining outfit on the surface of the moon and he slowly discovers truths about his identity in the way in which is being exploited Yeah beautiful film lovely recommendations and choices thank you both we begin today's program with the much loved Disney story. Would. Be on say and Donald Glover otherwise known as childish gambino with their take on Elton John and Tim Rice his Oscar winning song from the 1st line King movie released 25 years ago so the original 2 Deanna mated musical about Simba the little lion cub Who Would Be King became one of the highest grossing films of all time The New Lion King looks like a nature documentary The animals are hyper realistic and it was created using the very latest virtual reality technology it's also got a whole new cast of voices including Beyonce is now Seth Rogen as the windy walk talk and Billy Eichner as His me a cat psychic here they are meeting young Simba who's run away from the pride lands because he mistakenly believes he's caused the death of his father. And one for like her. Is just a little more gets bigger than the people can we please keep. Our promise by walking every day if you make a little mess you'll be his little Max is going to be here when the news my body is the truth but one day when he's going strong will be on our side the new line King is directed by John Fabro who has an impressive record when it comes to pushing the technical logical boundaries of what cinema can do marvels 1st Avengers film Iron Man and the live action remake of The Jungle Book but why remake The Lion King I think that there is an opportunity here to bring the story to a new generation and I felt that with all the technical breakthroughs that were happening and especially towards the tail end of Jungle Book I really felt there was an opportunity to tell a story in a much more photo real way as though you filmed it live action as a documentary that there was an exciting way to tell the story to honestly a new generation of young people that might not connect with the tutti animated version of it. So I'm trying to think how do you describe it kids like it's if you say animation implies I think that they use the term live action because it probably sits alongside the live action adaptations of the animated Disney classics more than it does as an animated film and not motion capture either as you pointed out it is key from animated as they would have animated Bambi It's a story department it's pencil drawings you're looking at it you're doing show reels you're doing temp voices and seeing if the story works then we began to design the environments and the characters and that's when it starts to get a bit more photo real as we look at tests and we do full renders that we wanted to fool people to believe that it was actually real but when it got into the layout phase which is where you start to establish lighting blocking performances of physical performances that's what we put on the viewer headsets and so we took all these digital environments digital characters and we uploaded it into virtual reality and we created what is essentially a multiplayer v.r. Filmmaking game and the crew all put on the headsets and we could just walk around the pride lands as a we were on a tech scout on a live action movie and if you visited said that point you would see a whole film crew sometimes wearing the headsets operating cranes cameras assistant directors scripts reviser set dressers and so I was able to import all of this live action film culture into what is essentially an animated film and you've got Famu voice actors of African origin in the original why that decision Yeah and it's I think that that's part of you know that's that's part of why you do it again in 2001000 is you want to update it to reflect the world and people's understanding I think it's a world a smaller place people really appreciate and demand authenticity and not just by interpret it but also by casting people from South Africa in the roles. That the Lion King my guests on today's film critic and some the talent. Melanie Vandenberg and Tony it's been 25 years since the original 1st of all you've seen the new one haven't you I have seen the new one although I haven't seen the original. And the only seen the original but not the new one absolutely and I've seen the musical as well oh my goodness we've got it all and did you enjoy the line I didn't but that's not probably not a fair reflection on the film because it isn't a film for me I don't particularly like musicals I don't like films or talking animals immediately so I'm not the target audience at the same time it has a pre-made target audience because of the success of the original I think the Disney is very cannily starting to reconvert its back catalogue into remakes into new films which is a way of exploiting the kind of way in which they've entered the popular imagination that this is something that they can now make new money from but then I mean it's so John Fabro says there's a new audience out there they demanded a new version I mean do they we had Disney films made in the fifty's which I still saw in the seventy's I wasn't demanding a new version now I would've thought if anyone demands a new version it's people who've seen the old version either Why is your new to whichever version you're shown so he spoke in detail John 5 about the process of making this film do you think that we are actually confused as to what version of animation or an animated film we're going to see it was true at the time this was 1st announced that everyone on social media was saying oh it's the live action the Lion King It certainly isn't a live action film and I mean you can just dismiss that is straight out straight away it's not a real film but it's realistic and of course realism is a kind of stylization in itself at the end of the day this is about animals that speak in English and sing and even sort of dance so I'm you know what you're watching is not is not by any stretch the imagination real but it does have a photo real appearance the animals have been modeled on vast archives and banks of real documentary footage and observation of real animals in motion with all of these let's say the virtual Dalai shots virtual cranes. The virtual focus pills the virtual virtual pans the film has the feel of simply because of the way the camera moves through it of being a real environment even though it's a completely artificial environment and the camera isn't in fact moving at all. I think that they're able to get away with the artificial view of the project because this is about animals not about humans and so the own kind of valley doesn't kick in you don't get that feeling a kind of or when you see a human face that doesn't look right which is what tends to happen with digitised faces the uncanny valley you would know that phrase man and yeah I love the idea that there is a space in between reality hyper reality fake and it's whatever it is that is the makes you feel uncomfortable Absolutely and it's interesting how I watched the trailer for the new movie Russ and watched the actual movie and so watching the trailer I found it quite appealing because I felt like I was seeing actual animals in screen and not some sort of out if it is I do have a concern however that younger generations may disconnect from reality if they get used to seeing those kind of programs and those kinds of projects it's several steps removed from the outer face of original animation and while we are heading for a kind of dystopian future in which many naturals species will there be probably disappear so it is probably quite of its time to do to be doing such mv kind of showing us where we are heading to and perhaps in the future we'll need eyes and kind of all documentary footage to be able to see what natural life forms look like yeah or whether we'll need indeed to be creating those life forms in the studio I have a slight concern that younger generations might be so used to seeing kind of valleys that they won't see what is the difference between that's a kind of vast Like difference between artifice and vanity we know that the cost. Diverse the voice cast we have South African actor John Carney Nigerian British acted she would tell edgier fall do you both feel strongly about the need for cultural authenticity in filmmaking and today Anton Well I mean in terms of representation I think that's great and that this this can only be a good thing I guess my main problem is that when you listen to what all these characters are saying it just sounds like any bland American comedy kind of kind of your body dialogue and lots of cutesy jokes you know all the sort of stuff that you getting kids films and the representation actually is normal screen I mean you have to know who the cost Automower that they're being performed by someone of this cultural someone with that ethnic background because in fact what you're watching are animals thank you both very much you're listening to the sound the b.b.c. World Service with me Nicky Beatty to Loon and matters now and you surely can't to fail to notice that this year is the 50th anniversary of the moon landings here on the b.b.c. World Service we'd be marking the commemoration with a podcast 13 minutes to the moon and all sorts of other programming to the American I haven't got artist composer musician and film director Laurie Anderson has created a virtual reality artwork to the moon and she spoke to the B.B.C.'s John Wilson about it so now you're on your wages and. We had a lot of stories you were going to put into this piece at the beginning. One of the thing was the origin of the moon how it chipped off the earth in just $7000000.00 pieces and and then we got progressively more and more simple it's somewhat of a fantasy it's not very scientific and you worked as artist in residence at NASA I think you were the 1st artist in residence that NASA and Congress have a very long. Very competitive they have a very competitive relationship let's say So there were a. Into the budget of the space program going hey 30 trillion for spy satellites great $80000000000.00 for really crazy Shield where you sit in $20000.00 for an artist in residence this isn't. What you come up with is a virtual reality experience and we float we walk across the surface of the moon and then it all becomes quite surreal a dinosaur appears on the moon and then changes into a Cadillac is that sort of a riff on the idea of carbon fossil fuel you got it thank you very much for that. You know what the ideal audience for this in a way is 9 year old boys because they're the very best at b. Ark as they come from the gaming world. And there's a political message or an ecological message to the narrative that you devised for the show really looking through some of the images the moon is littered with space junk or I guess rather earth junk junk that has been dumped from Earth on to the moon that's a campaigning message I guess that you put in there isn't that unfortunately that is the plan of quite a few nations is to dump radioactive waste on to the moon not the greatest idea maybe but one of the things that that inspires me about being able to make something like this is to look at the world and the moon in a different way so instead of shooting people or instead of racking up your score you know I'll be in a competitive way instead of shooting and scoring this is about flying and looking at the universe and going oh my God you know so does everybody like to fly and I read that you were skeptical about virtual reality for a long time but then you won a virtual reality prize at the Venice Film Festival last year so you're a convert I love it it's really exciting but the technology is still changing in a way it's still in its infant. Are you interested in staying with it because of course at the moment you have to put on the headset it's a very sort of lumpy clunky experience very solitary experience as well do you foresee changes which will make virtual reality more of a communal experience to be shared by a room full of people we do know now no I think right now the body is a thrilling interface it's one of the few are from Sweden you need your body in this case we're creating virtual hands in a virtual body which is a thrill and in other art forms music or upper you're much more passive in this when you need to stretch out your arms and go flying and wish your screen based knowledge to use your body says is actually going back to the body as opposed to to losing it through more technology. Laurie Anderson that with her unique tribute to the moon landings with me in the studio is art curator Melanie Vandenberg who's also been creating a cultural response to that anniversary here in London at the stunning National Maritime Museum her exhibition brings together paintings writing and photography to explore and lots more actually to explore how brightly that Moon has shown in the imaginations of all kinds of different artists through the centuries and Melanie were you excited to hear about what Laurie Anderson was saying about her Vietnam installation Absolutely and actually she made her out installation for as a reason a museum near company going in Denmark in 2018 and I had the pleasure of visiting the exhibition there so it's great to talk about it today because I think it's a really successful installation which not every movie artistic output can be it was very thoughtful very thought provoking and also very personal which is a very important point about to be ours that I don't know how much v.x. Prime Minster's gone through but it tends to feel a bit and input. So will it tends to fill a bit too much trying to take you through a kind of artificial experience in which you are being guided to love it too much and her piece is much more intreat if it's a very experience you know she's a godmother of that intersection between language technology and visual art and also for thinking about me in making you think about what we are doing here on Earth and that's what I found working on my own expression is that so I mean in many ways has been and remains a mirror to human kinds and human kinds and Evers and dreams and aspirations and you really get that sense in her in piece so you have in your exhibition some quite extraordinary objects there's a bronze figure of ear the ancient Egyptian god is that the oldest object that you have it's the oldest human made object for hands exhibit and because they have pieces of the main exhibit How do you get pieces of the moon then are they available to anybody who wants a bit that quite difficult to get to different ones one of them is the piece of diplomatic mean rocks that was given by President Nixon to u.k. Prime Minister Harold Wilson the premise of the justification for this was you know the famous words a famous plaque that was left on the main by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin saying we we came in peace for mankind and certainly when President Nixon spoke to the astern is once around the moon and then when he made a speech when they came back on to he spoke about a kind of great Devers that they had to realize for the whole of humanity etc etc But it was a show of force and I think what he was trying to do by giving piece of mineral all around the world I was to say we got there 1st and we are giving you a piece of me there is a work from the gun an artist. Well and that story he works with prints and recyclable materials tell me how that relates and his piece relates to the moon printmaking is a new direction for l. . This one is from a series called The Eclipse reet which is showing free circular shapes in relationship to each other on a picture plane and to me is a destroy the kind of Balata contraction between of the mean and the sun in those really beautifully affecting cosmological events which we know as lunar and solar eclipses it's verily Minnes It's very beautiful you have that incredible red very 1000000 color this beautiful deep blue which is achieved through as a reflection of the reflection of sunlight on light sensitive paper and it's a working on sort of things from a kind of acknowledge of his own practice to the way that we've been looking up to the heavens for millenium trying to make sense of souls aswell make all of them so I know that the moon is often depicted as a positive symbol around the world it's seen as a mother figure sometimes but what about ideas of lunacy and monthly cycles for women being tied to the main and he's still here Rhea have you got anything that reflects that in the exhibition we do have a little bit of this Indeed you can't really do a cultural history of our relationship to the main without having those aspects so we have a mini section and expression that relates to the mean and physical and mental health we have quite a moving and that's almost difficult print by the British printmaker Cruickshank in which she seizes this late 18th century and early 19th century character annoys a lunatic who's Inzy as Island changed too. So it's a very moving piece because it really shows you how until fairly recently we had difficulties relating especially in the West relating to mental health issues and we had to give reasons that were outside of the body and outside of society to mental health issues. Certainly 30 menstruation have long been asked suited to the main and I believe that so much energy woods in the u.k. Still have extra staff on the night of the filming believing the us in the exhibition will have this really beautiful and delicate amulets a little pendants that were warm by women across the middle time in world India thousands in 1000 sentry to help fatty Melanie thank you I can't wait to see this exhibition and some has this anniversary the mean landings meant anything to you the fact is even when you watch documentaries about the moon landing I still find it incredible I mean I saw the recently released documentary Todd Douglas Miller's Apollo 11 and you really can't underestimate what a power the impact of watching this footage is because I mean it really tells us something about our place in the world it tells us about our mortality you know limitations in our interconnectedness in a sense that documentary just collates archival footage of the mission and it shows not just blow by blow what happened during the mission itself but also shows how many personnel were working on the ground to get the to get Apollo 11 to the moon and back and it's full of figures and numbers there's no actual voice of a commentary but you very often get on the screen calibrations showing fuel gauge levels or timing which just remind you how how tight and how risky the operation was at every point thank you both so much the moon exhibition is on in London at the National Maritime Museum in beautiful Greenwich until January the 2nd 2020 I don't go away there's lots more to come on the Including Macy Gray news about the new Mortal Kombat movie and the literally postcard from Sudan. 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Still to come on the outside with me Nicky baby news about the new Mortal Kombat fil a literary postcard from Sudan and Macy Gray on having a troubled life but creating upbeat music you know I do I do have a thing for looking at the upside and knows that I'm going to finally have side in the good in people. Coming up on the Arts our. Bills when. B.b.c. News which really Kendra a confidential un report says North Korea is using sophisticated cyber attacks to fund its weapons programs sources told the b.b.c. That Pyongyang had stolen an estimated $2000000000.00 by talking financial institutions and crypto currency exchanges the Afghan Taliban have confirmed that the main obstacles to securing a deal with the United States on ending the conflict in Afghanistan have been resolved they said only discussions about technical details remained correspondent said suggests the militants have given up their rejection of talks with the Afghan government. The former u.s. President Barack Obama has led tributes to the Nobel Prize winning novelist Toni Morrison who's died at the age of $88.00 he said she was a national treasure whose prose was a beautiful meaningful challenge to our conscience the un has increased its appeal of his embark way to more than $300000000.00 to help it recover from a severe drought which has left about a 3rd of the population needing food aid the drought coincides with Zimbabwe's worst economic crisis in a decade police in the Us city of Galveston have apologized after photos emerged of 2 white officers on horseback leading a handcuffed black man on a rope through the streets the pictures have been widely condemned officials in Paris say 16 children who were close to not a Dom Cathedral when it caught fire in April should be monitored because of high levels of lead in their blood an estimated 400 tons of lead in the roof inspire went up in smoke when the blaze took hold the French authorities have repeatedly insisted there's no health hazard robbers in Mexico have stolen commemorative gold coins and watches worth 2 and a half $1000000.00 from Mexico's Mint 2 gunmen threatened guards and went directly to the vault before escaping on motorbikes b.b.c. News. Welcome back to the Uptown the b.b.c. World Service I'm Nicky Beatty and if you've only just joined us here's a rapid recap of what you missed in the 1st Top of the show director John Savard talked about his latest project pushing film's technical boundaries in line King movie we heard from artist Laurie Anderson about her v.r. Project to the moon and I spoke to one of my 2 studio guests today art curator Melanie Vandenberg who's responsible for the moon exhibition here in London and she's still with us in the studio along with film opinion instant classic scholar Anton Britto coming up in this self of the show in a moment the one and only Macy Gray we have music from the brilliant antipodean Jordan Buckeye Alicia postcards from Sudan and we hear about the new Mortal Kombat movie 1st that American singer songwriter Macy Gray burst on to the music scene in 1999 with that distinctive raspy voice and the huge Grammy award winning single I try since then she's made 10 albums and has also talked openly about her struggles with drug addiction Well she's back with a new album it's called Ruby. If his watch it. Is. Macy Gray performing the title track from her new album The B.B.C.'s Christy Lange asked my secret how she feels now about Ted debut album on how life is 20 years after its chart busting release is great as though isn't it amazing is in itself fresh and it's coming from a place like lyrically were or I was at it and I didn't really understand why I was so popular them back you know now when I listen to it I get what what Alfonse was about it was like yes because I mean the song. When you 1st wrote it did you have any idea to be such a massive hit well now and I can I wouldn't I was blown away I'm still shocked when I you know I did a show last night and everybody still knows who are sell. So the people who sing along oh yeah they know the words better than I do I don't have to sing the song still you know like to hear that still when the whole crowd still knows your song is pretty cool you know you've talked a little bit about the effect the immediate commercial success and fame had on you I mean just just just talk us through it because because that sudden fame and it was sudden and huge must have been challenging. Just get real confident you get real cocky and you just. Demand things because you have money you know money does. You know there's a lot of people that's just reality and you can buy things you can to people a little better and they'll do stuff for you and that goes ahead it goes to your you know do you become a bit of a prima donna Oh yeah but I but I think you know that's Ok you like to have that moment in your life we you can even add a little bit long as you know what I do I do think it gets old and I think you hurt people's feelings and you time people off and I think it kind of comes back to you if you say it definitely comes back to you I can attest to that doesn't it doesn't last you've been very open about your drug use in those in those early days and how your life spiraled out of control how did it affect your your music and did it affect your voice and now my voice is made of steel my voice is like a superwoman I've done horrible things to my voice and it still works all the time it's like the energizer bunny but yet to my to my art and to myself definitely I mean it affects the things you write about of course but then you know everybody knows there's been some Regine there are songs written by people who are superstar you know I mean and the reality is you know it opens up the subconscious and you think about things you didn't think about before so that's just the way it is I can't you know I can't sugarcoat that for you but at the same time you deteriorate you know you don't have the stamina you used to you're not focused to get things done you can be in the middle of a great song and 6 months later still be trying to finish it or just be really cloudy about what sounds good and what was working you know I mean sell. So you know it's I don't recommend it I always thought that your music is is so optimistic it's the kind of music you want to well down the windows of your car on a sunny day you know the roof and you know from I try to add to review what what does all of that come from you know I do I do have a thing for looking sad and knows that about myself I'm going to find that I've side in the good in people so I'm proud of that about myself now finally you're going to sing I try for us. Games changes. Where will they go for me. You start. Past. We should. Have cool. Tools wind. Chill. Fast. School. Principals when. Macy Gray performing I try live on the b.b.c. She headlined the U.K.'s Womad Music Festival last week and the arts owl was facts stage there so you can hear my conversations with the amazing child soldier turned rapper and activist Emmanuel Jal and I spoke to India's Tom project that's next week Chez And if your passion is music we have a new program starting here on the b.b.c. World Service It's called Music life and it brings together musicians talking to each other about making music the 1st episode kicks off this weekend with American singer songwriter John Grant who I love love love guy gal the front man of British band elbow and Fiona Brice composer and violin player they candidly share their stories I love performing I love being on stage but I did discover that I'm shy and it's really weird when you you suddenly as a performer you suddenly should be able to just perform and be yourself. And all that stuff but the you find her show you are not yet another get on stage in front of him what is the thing this vulnerability being able to purchase of a stable interval in order to do what you do be open while protecting yourself and filtering and sometimes it's exhausting to take seriously they have to be you know . I think you can be both the same time you can be confident performer while having all your news on the outside of the same time music life give you is to it this weekend of the b.b.c. World Service You're listening to the arts hour with me Nicky Beatty another 50 year celebration now on the south but this one some may think is a little more frivolous it marks French designer an iconoclast goatee is half century in the world of fashion he's the man that brought the world Madonna's famous conical bra in 1990 now he's created his own stage show it's a mix of catwalk theatre and cabaret essentially a gloriously camp glamorous fun and flesh filled review experience it's called Fashion freak show and it features actives dances and circus artists in scenes from John Paul's life and their recreate from his greatest fashion shows it also pays tribute to those who've inspired him in film Pedro Almodovar and Luke best song in the world of music Madonna and Kylie and the show opened at the famous folly Visionaire in Paris and has just been on in London the b.b.c. Steve Wright asked the designer if it was really a celebration of his work a celebrity should you know I wanted to see because there is a lot of people that didn't see fashion show in really it is quite for elite Let's say you know like a professional freshening cetera so I want to sure like to see you can see the clothes it can be like in a fashion show so it's a little of the Up 1st yeah the thing about you is that you stayed light years ahead of everybody. Else and you've been around for a long time how do you do that you are touched No I am only like passionate love my work and for me it's not my work is my dream of shot so it's like I'm doing it. In some way because I'm doing what I love so each time it's an adventure but now I think like fashion is no more like to work it's more like to make sure people are interested to see clothes as a show for example to see all those nice most beautiful I was a musical like that oh yeah yeah maybe not but the content tame into a sink but what filters down doesn't it filters to the shops and it kind of it becomes kind of a slight version of the outrageous you know you know people are worrying less and less clothes I don't mean that they want to be nude No To be honest I think there is too much of clothes and not enough people are too worried so I think no clothes are more alike for processing something else so there's a show are more like a publicity for something else so I think that's why not to do my fashion freak show which is truly somebody like they go to see it on this is something they will not appreciate. Me on the air I prefer to do that and I think you know we are in a moment very strange about fashion this some clothes even some group of certain big fashion and history people that clothes that are not you know you know so yeah people do things that have to do more in that you had more of seem to be bigger than 001 it really gives a Contrary to be so I think it's a good time for cycling I am for that John Paul go to you're listening to the. My guest today. Melanie Bender book and film critic and actually I just need to turn to you Gentile Melanie as a Frenchwoman do you have some sort of reference for example go to absolutely I was. The 2 nations in 1900 member Harry was both really cutting edge but so accessible so that some of his work became really mainstream and we all ran in yesterday you know as was put on tops and I think he knows of the blue and white striped tops that are usually don't know the boot on top of the blue and white striped stops which have now become the item everybody needs to have and a wardrobe in France likewise everybody I knew had one of these perfumes you know he was so important he was so inspiring pushing boundaries he was known as the off on t.v. Reference fashion and I don't think he's ever aged in that sense he still really exciting go to I was saying there that people want less clothes that we have enough of everything these days and so how do you feel about stuff and there being too many things everywhere I mean it is a question for culture as much as for everything else isn't it well I think deep down we all know there is too much stuff but I think it's human nature that you want. Are there too many films in the world we want to know can you keep up you can't keep up but that doesn't mean there are too many films I so agree with yes you're listening to the arts hour with me Nikki Beatty Mortal Kombat has become one of the most successful fighting franchises in the history of video games and one of the highest grossing media franchises of all time The latest Mortal Kombat movie is about to start shooting in Adelaide Australia and apparently it will be the largest film production in South Australia's history why adulate the film's executive producer is Bennett Walsh his previous credits include Kill Bill $1.00 and $2.00 The Kite Runner and the recent Men in Black international movie and he was recently on the screen show on our partner station a.b.c. R.n. Presenter Jason Di Rosso 1st wanted to know about the casting Well the fortunate thing of. Mortal Kombat is that it is such a beloved game and part of the reason is the characters in it so we're not going to be so reliant on a list stars because the characters and the game is so beloved and quiet is the director That's correct and he's from Perth Now it got me wondering if you there was recently I think a very good science fiction dystopian film made in Adelaide also with a director from Perth. And I'm talking about I am of course which means Netflix Hilary Swank was made in Adelaide was that film a kind of chi study for you to sort of see that you could actually make science fiction in Adelaide. Unfortunately that we haven't seen the movie yet but I think the thing the thing that probably was the calling card was their history I mean they've been making movies in Adelaide in South Australia you know since the fifty's if not even earlier so there's a genuine enthusiasm and they've really made really good movies here so the awareness of and the craft of caring about making movies was part of the reason Mortal Kombat is the largest movie that's ever been made and these types of movies have a lot of manufacturing in this type of film they're almost the entire wardrobe is made from scratch the sets obviously hand props to set dressing there's a lot of manufacturing that goes into a fantasy film we know that there are you know sound stages in Western Europe. And Eastern Europe for that matter north of the border in Canada that would that would love a film like this how competitive his. Well I think you point something in that is important that these types of films do look globally for a home to be made we are in a time where capacity is an issue throughout the world because there is so much. Content production and that's with the streaming services you know sort of opening up and competing and for the next 5 years I think we're going to have this sort of boom to production because it is really busy in Australia right now I think that what Adelaide has is a very well developed post production infrastructure you have 2 world class visual effects houses rising sun and the mill but you also have smaller houses that have been doing or international films like Cojo and rez and so the one thing that we're looking forward to is when we're doing the movie we typically are having digital conferences with visual effects houses throughout the world and here we're going to actually have them in the room when we're talking about the movie event and the new most will come that is slated for a March the 5th 2021 village that's a long way away let me ask film critic and tell me tell as an antipodean yourself in many ways what do you satellite offering the film industry apart from what we just well I mean usually the answer to this question all the time is cheap production the claim is that Adelaide is the new Hollywood but the truth is there is always been one new Hollywood or another there are different destinations around the world that filmmakers will go to when it is a tax break off road or if they happen to have built up an infrastructure that's cheaper to use or cheaper than Hollywood than the real Hollywood and I mean I remember in 1995 coming out of all things Mighty Morphin Power Rangers movie in Sydney and you know walking out and recognizing that the building law opposite the cinema was literally the location of the films climax that's where it was filmed if you watch The Matrix you can actually see the Sydney Harbor Bridge in the background of one of the kind of dystopian scenes that's because at that time it just so happened that Sydney was offering great tax breaks to American filmmakers then Brisbane did the same thing for a while as well and obviously we all know. About New Zealand and the kind of aftermath of Lord Of The Rings where there were studios in place I mean what happens is that when big productions move to relatively small sites that wouldn't normally associate with Hollywood those sites managed to build up an infrastructure as was said in the pace and that infrastructure can then print snowball and can prove more and more attractive this is the out found the b.b.c. World Service I'm Mickey Beatty and we had to Sudan now well earlier this year a peaceful protest toppled the 30 year dictatorship of Omar al Bashir but after brutal crackdowns and demonstrations in the capital Khartoum hopes for smooth transition to democracy have been shaken so where have the years of repressive rule and this new uncertainty left the countries but Columbus here is never less to mamma to telling us about Sudanese book culture growing up in her tomb in the 1970 s. I was lucky enough to have access to what seems now a wide range of libraries both in school and at the old British Council for example a lovely colonial Villa surrounded by high trees there were also about a dozen bookshops around town and I can still recall the excitement of entering the cool air conditioned interiors usually in the evenings and seeing the endless shelves of brand new books that seem to glow with so much promise 30 years of a repressive regime and a failing economy have left most of those outlets shut down. One of the many encouraging things about the city and calling for regime change in recent months was the sight of an impromptu bookstore set out on the pavement outside the central military headquarters it was a reminder that the Sudanese have always had a passion for reading and that despite the difficulties books remain treasured objects to be passed around from one person to the next with people waiting weeks and sometimes months for a chance to read something that had caught their interest when I started returning to hard to move a few years ago to research my book on the city a line in the river I found myself seeking out those old places I found the bookshops either shuttered or derelict or empty shelves abandoned with only a few unwanted books with curling pages left behind to gather dust but in the square that I used to walk through on my way home from school an unofficial book market sprang up to breathe new life into the old place once a month people would make their way downtown to meet friends and buy or exchange books that they had come by the periodical crackdowns on the press indeed on any form of expression that was deemed unacceptable to the regime or contrary to Islamic morals have not deterred readers or writers they continue to publish their work inside the country under broad the last 10 years in particular have witnessed a flourishing of young talent frustrated by the tight clamp placed on culture and eager to tell their own stories revolutions spring 1st and foremost from the imagination the sudden appearance of colorful street art brightening the wars in and around the occupation area were an expression of how much untapped talent there is just waiting for a chance to express itself video clips show musicians playing to raise the spirits of the protesters in the evenings something long suppressed by the Bashir regime. Despite the violence witnessed recently and the very serious threat that now hangs over this revolution that it might follow the same route as similar uprisings across the region there is still hope that the old Sudan the one I remember where people sat up late into the night to read under the glow of street lamps where writers and poets will revere that Sudan will triumph over the country of violence and repression that now threatens it after so many years of suffering the people deserve a chance to be free what are books after all but an opportunity to dream and where would we be without that Jamal much to bear and memories of book Dying in Sudan My guests are Melanie Vandenberg and film Athenian ist and some the tell very critically both of you do you have any really strong memories of buying a book is a child's Melanie I was a real book I would spend a lot of time in bookshops and libraries I remember buying this book by his him out of the vast considers he's a South American out of there called my lovely orange tree which is a tale of grief friendship and longing I must have been 9 not 19 or 10 like that I was ridiculous Lee Young and I remember just crying and considerably at night I would read with my mum taught under the bed cover and the level of a cliche for that and it's such a beautiful book. Well that's a recommendation for anyone listening as well what about you and why loved science fiction when I was young and I think that's what got me into reading and I really loved Isaac Asimov and devoured anything that he wrote was to say that both of you were reading way above your childhood ages in my humble opinion I mean I was still reading in a blight at the age of 9 let me leave you today with music from the excellent antipodean multi instrumental talents that is Jordan rock I He has great musical breath he's a singer songwriter with incredible soul and he always uses the newest and most exciting production techniques in his work he's also just a really lovely guy he is introducing his new album to the B.B.C.'s Jamie Cullum So my next album is called Origin and it's about coming to grips with the influx of and wave of technology and it's set in a future dystopian world and we have to come to the reality that we're no longer in control and so the whole hour is about remaining in touch with the origins of humanity and making sure you keep reminding yourself who we are as a species and who we are as a people. 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Response to North Korean short range missile tests the key is to keep the door open vomiting and now we're not going to overreact to these we monitor watching closely and controversy after mounted Texan police led abound blacks on spec through the streets here on the news or. Hello I'm Julie candor with the b.b.c. News sources have confirmed to the b.b.c. That a confidential un report accuses North Korea of stealing an estimated $2000000000.00 through sophisticated cyber attacks to fund its weapons program from New York noted Tofik has more details the panel of u.n. Experts said it was investigating at least $35.00 attacks on financial institutions crypto currency exchanges and mining activity designed to earn foreign currency crypto currencies are subject to less regulation than the traditional banking sector and are therefore notoriously difficult to trace the panel's investigation also showed that despite diplomatic efforts to restart stalled talks continue to violate sanctions through ongoing illicit ship to ship transfers and procurement of weapons of mass destruction related items the Taliban have confirmed that negotiations with the United States on ending the conflict in Afghanistan have made good progress the Taliban spokesman said the 2 sides were discussing the final details echoing remarks by the u.s. And boy the deal in visage is the withdrawal of u.s. Troops and paves the way for the Taliban to enter talks with the government of President. But deadly attacks have continued in Afghanistan and the Taliban have called for a boycott of next month's election. But Iraq Obama has led tributes to the u.s. Novelist Tony Morrison who's died at the age of $88.00 the former president said she was a national treasure whose prose was a beautiful meaningful challenge to our conscience Morrison was the 1st black woman to win the Nobel Prize for literature she received critical and commercial success with Works portraying the lives of African Americans the director Steve McQueen's said Morrison was the 1st person to see his Oscar winning film 12 Years a Slave for me that was. The biggest one I could do like this is that. Of invention or so many levels just as she was as an artist I was also to put them together was my father. The u.s. National security at.