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Coming up on the air with me Nicky Beatty Oscar winning director Alfonso quote on on the level of secrecy he maintained while filming his critically acclaimed new movie bro Mark I wrote the screenplay and I didn't show it to anyone it was almost like a magic writing what I view with with this thing you're accessing my memories and maybe want to be 2nd guess about the process straight out of Pakistan we hear about how the music scene is developing there Andy Serkis on his new film Mowgli and how there's nothing Disney about it although Davis a lawyer tells us about turbulence his new collection of short stories I was also quite keen to just convey the texture of what it's like to be an opponent such a common almost universal experience really some of the views for instance that you got out of the window totally extraordinary I'm from the very very cool and talented Icelandic musician Allah for Arnold we've got playing pianos all that and more coming up on the. Nooners with the b.b.c. News the Chinese president Xi Jinping has marked the 40th anniversary of the opening up of the country's economy with a warning that no one can dictate to China wanted should or shouldn't do it and eagerly awaited speech Mr she said Beijing would not seek to dominate the rest of the world and would not develop at the expense of other nations have uncertainty and all the theories in practice of our policy in the past 40 years of reform and opening up based on one and the same theme of holding and advancing socialism with Chinese characteristics there is no textbook of golden rules to follow for reform and development in China a country with over 5000 years of civilization more than 1300000000 people no one is in a position to dictate to the Chinese people what should or should not be done fighting has erupted again the round of a Yemeni border who died after a United Nations brokered a cease fire failed to take hold Martin patients reports just minutes after their cease fire was supposed to comment. Reports say there were sporadic clashes between the Who theory rabbits and pro-government forces and parts of her data but overnight the fighting appears to have subsided 8 people are now saying the city is relatively quiet this cease fire agreement was fresh the noms last week at a peace conference in Sweden but I had to be delayed by several days because of fierce fighting the Saudi backed jam any government and the rebels which are supported by Iran both say they are not committed to the truce. The family of a dying 2 year old boy in California say his Yemeni mother is being prevented from visiting him by the trumpet ministrations travel ban on visitors from 7 mainly Muslim countries doctors say Abdulla Hasan is terminally ill with a brain disease the boy's father who is who was born in California brought him to the us expecting his mother would like to join them. The Gulf state of Qatar is celebrating its national day but this year's event has added significance but because in exactly 4 years' time the final of the next football World Cup will be played in the emirate Sports News correspondent is Richard Conway there are many questions over what this World Cup will be like the fans unfamiliar with Casaus Islamic norms its government has been heavily criticized over workers' welfare after restricting the basic labor rights for those building its infrastructure it alcohol will only be sold in hotel bars and specific found zones and despite homosexuality being a crime the hosts say everyone will be welcome provided they respect what they call that progressive conservative culture this is the world news from the b.b.c. . The Nikkei shindigs in Japan has fallen by more than one percent in early trading after the main indices in the United States all closed more than 2 percent down it was the 2nd successive trading day that the Dow Jones registered a 2 percent for at least say it reflects concerns about slowing economic growth. A quarter notes of the door has freed a woman who has spent a year and 7 months in jail accused of trying to abort her baby the 20 year old said she had become pregnant by her stepfather who sexually abused her for many yes' years Leonardo Russia mail the court this said that she began being sexually abused by her stepfather when she was 12 and in April last year she gave birth to a baby she says a baby's from her stepfather who is now his seventy's doctors in El Salvador they are accused of trying to terminate the pregnancy which in El Salvador amounts to a charge of attempted murder Austria which currently holds the presidency of the European Union is hosting a business conference with African leaders aimed at deepening cooperation between Africa and the e.u. On the digital economy the talks are being led by the rightwing Austrian Chancellor as the bastion courts who recently refused to ratify the United Nations Global Migration compact which is an international agreement to forge a stronger and Farah approach to large movements of refugees Mr Cortes than to the Egyptian president at the meeting for helping to prevent migrants from crossing the Mediterranean. New Zealand is to hold a binding referendum on legalizing cannabis for recreational use in 2020 cannabis referendum was one of the demands made by the Green Party in return for supporting the Labor led coalition in parliament Those are the latest stories from b.b.c. World news. Hello you're listening to the arts hour on the b.b.c. World Service I'm Nikki Beatty here with 60 minutes of the best global arts and culture conversation from across the b.b.c. Coming up on the show today in a moment the extraordinary Mexican director Alfonso cuarón talks about his latest film a Roma author David So Lloyd has written a collection of stories called turbulence he tells us why on pleasant flying experiences unite people the genius motion capture actor and director Andy Serkis tells us why his new film Mowgli legend of the jungle has nothing Disney like about it a lot of people have absolutely forgotten that it was a book written in 1000 votes for Roger Kipling and so we've come right back to the source material is very much about the central emotional journey of this boy he found himself to be an outsider now cost from the streets of Karachi How is the music scene growing there straight out of Pakistan and we have Icelandic musician all of for Arnold playing piano. Speaking And joining me in the studio to talk about her work is pianist and composer Evelyn a delay she's played her piano in the Himalayas this year more about that later also in the studio film producer and today our critic tend to come a touchy Welcome to both of you tell me 1st of all we're going to be hearing about air travel via Dave it's a Louise Story is not made our think about films set on planes do either of you have a favorite and if so why. Yes of course turbulence is not fear it's a plane movie I don't even know that there is a movie with Lauren Holly author pretty cruel and the service has to. On the plane and that's pretty crazy I also have corn air because Has Nick Cage in there as a great movie executive decision I only asked for one reason or overly unless the original owner. Said Decca whatever case I'm going to give to as well same or you start at the. United 93 are no to really difficult. There's a genius and it's just such a tense meticulous drama it's heart wrenching obviously and then on the other side of the spectrum of the other end of the spectrum Snakes on a plane simply because it has Samuel l. Jackson delivers the best movie line ever which I can't repeat on radio unfortunately but you know what I do you know what you may 1st on the show today then Mexican director Alfonso cuarón who's movie eat to my my family n. And your mother too made me fall in love with his work 18 years ago it was so erotic so well observed and if you haven't seen it please rent it now I also loved his children of men and then there was gravity which I didn't think was great but it made so much money it won him as director of the film in various categories Oscars so what would he do next write edit direct produce and naturally shoulder the camera for a film that's already sweeping up awards Roma is a black and white odyssey that draws on Korans childhood in 1970 s. Mexico City it follows a maid in a middle class household as she negotiates unwanted pregnancy poverty and violence the B.B.C.'s Antonia quirk asked the director how autobiographical Roma is. It's pretty much out of the graphical I guess that maybe like 85 percent of or 90 percent of the scenes come out or from my memory or the memory of the person who's who inspired the character of Cleo it was a very strange process because a play I wrote a screenplay and I didn't show it to anyone I usually shared my screenplays with your model Toro Alexander once Alyse me how to do and in this one I didn't want to do it because. I wanted to keep it was almost like a magic writing what I did with this thing you're accessing my memories and I didn't want to be 2nd guess about the process I wanted us to trust in my narrative muscle and not to worry about the narrative in 3 can seize I want to just to try to be a spear and respect as much as possible the superconscious element of it so you giving the act is the day before when you telling them all the while they are going to do well we should in absolute chronological continuity so that meant that everybody including the crew would learning what the movie was about they by they. I mean the mornings I would give to some of the actors I would give their written dialogue I would never give instructions to the actors in a group I would give destruction separately to each one of them. Most of the 10 contradicting. What I was telling the other one so to create a certain chaos certain conflict in which they would have just to to make it work just to play with the randomness particularly when we had scenes with children just to let them be there is political unrest in the film and student protest that was deaf and it emerges and disappears by no explanation given what was happening there. Then days before the Libya Limpy Games in Mexico in $68.00 there was a sudden massacre orchestrated by the government after months of students organizing and demanding democratic reforms after that there was this kind of impasse in which everybody was very scared but there were new elections in your precinct to mean that by the way he was the secretary of state that orchestrated the massacre but he blamed the president and he appear as a reformer. Students demonstrating and what happened the field there were like completely crushed and what happened after that is that a lot of the Democratic groups radicalized and many of them the took the path of the guerrilla But what's interesting in the film is there isn't an explanation offered and it seemed to me that that's how memory was particularly when you were young you accept what's happening you get to a certain age and then you do ask questions and they hear it emerges and it's gone and it really nails that idea of the feeling is the child just accepting that that violence is part of that building so I don't want to make a film about story of the political statements it was more about that is like how he story also is part of events but in the context of life those are events that come and go. Just like happiness in life or even sadness in life every single event that happens around us that maybe at some point they have a big big big big relevance they just come and go but the important things in the now we're all existence individual existence they leave scars. You know even if you don't have the story coming the standing of things or even the complete understanding of your own circumstance they leave scars and for me you know it's obvious I'm dealing with 2 different scars the personal scars that happens in the context of a family but also the social scar because society is they share different scars gravity $100000000.00 Yeah what happens then do people offer you well or do they assume you can do whatever you want are no it's fantastic because if your movie makes it has some economic success and I'm saying economic success because Seems that is what matters more than if it's critical success or anything and it's so much fun you get of for everything bigger better greater stuff and more budgets and it was a moment that I felt it was the right time to do this film for many reasons in one hand I felt Ok I have the resources to do this film they way I want to do this film is the film that I have shot for longest than any other film I have ever done that I have done a post rather trying process for longer than any other film I've ever done before but also it was the moment in my life that I felt that I had the tools emotional tools to do this when I have tried in the past to do this film because of circumstances of life I didn't do it and I think was for the best because I don't think I was equipped with the right tools and I'm talking about. The emotional tolls Alfonso cuarón talking about his film Roma which may be in a cinema near you if you're very lucky and streams on Netflix from December the 14th my guests on today's Arts our pianist and composer Evelyn it Elaine and film producer 10 Dec I'm a touchy so this was clearly a very personal project for Alfonso cuarón 10 Dec a you've seen the film did it feel to biographical would you know from watching it no you wouldn't immediately I think there's a it's a beautiful exquisite narrative of memory and there's elements in the detail that kind of speak to you and you go oh hang on this comes from somewhere person or the narrow drive we're not going to give too much away the dog in the driveway the messy house I mean at the same time it's a grand epic was being very intimate and you know he's he's well known for using technology in new technology in breakthrough ways he did the same gravity with camera angles in this film in Rome where he uses sound in a very exceptional way so that Dobby at most and sound really highlights certain details that he wants you to notice so is that some very special you know a lot of a sit in a cinema and just take sound for granted we see the big God and he was swirling around sound but we don't actually understand what we as laypeople feel a different sound you know Dr I highly recommend you can watch unlovely send him I am with I am perfect surround sound speakers everywhere and you will notice it and make such a difference the other thing that he did is he he shot it in black and white digital back in white very very very very very rich he shot himself as huge as you mentioned and it just adds a completely different dimension to what is a really fantastic film and hopefully an Oscar nominee Alfonso cuarón also talked about the way we remember things as children do you remember the big events in your childhoods which were maybe tied to pollute. Call of social times Evelyn or Oh absolutely when Putsch was happening which was a military coup one few people came to power and ousted got a bunch of in August 1901 people were not for all this about anything that was going on for 3 days there was literally on this one lake playing on t.v. Nobody knew what was going on nothing was on the radio no news just 3 days of Swan Lake what about you it's interesting with the wind when you young while trying to remember things from a long long time ago a new young a new comer a comes back to these details that I was talking about and so so I grew up in Zimbabwe in the 1980 s. And at that time the bubble was surrounded by countries or war Angola Mozambique and the apartheid regime was in its highs in South Africa and my father was a journalist and so our house was constantly being visited by and he parted activists and people from from from those countries and I clearly remember the musician humus a killer coming to move visit one day and I was a terribly sad I was a huge fan of his and I was so excited that I had macabre so my memory of him visiting is about me hiding in the cotton ha that's so gorgeous Well I look forward to your Roma in a few years time literature now on the arts hour and David slow is book turbulence has 12 people on the move around the world on different flights the stories are named after airport code so for example the 1st is l g w to m.a.d. London Gatwick to Madrid and each of the 12 people's lives briefly touch in transit slow or use the same technique in his last book The critically acclaimed all that man is the B.B.C.'s Kirsty Lang told the author that turbulence reminded her of Jim Jarmusch his film Night on Earth which had interlinked stories of cab rides in different cities of the world I know that film and I did sort of have it was one of a couple of film. Which which I did have in mind actually I saw it when I 1st came out in 91 and yes I mean some of the problems that he was having to deal with in that film were also having to I was having to deal with them in this which is how to make a fundamentally similar basic structure or story different in each case so he had 5 cap rights and he had to work out ways of varying the tone and varying the the sort of impact of them. So that they wouldn't become monotonous and he only had 5 and I had to do 12 now some but not all of these stories take place in an airplane and it struck me that you know being cooped up in an air conditioned aircraft does put you in the passenger it is in a sort of altered state is that you feel sort of suspended What does that allow you to do as a writer Well I suppose there is one thing is that there's a lot of introspection probably goes on on planes doesn't it I mean you maybe less now that everyone's got a sort of tablet to watch but certainly in the past it was a very introspective space you were sort of taking you were taken out of your life for a few hours and you just had to sit still in a chair and there wasn't really much else to do is almost impossible not to turn over the events. Of the surrounding day you are really still in a place you can't get wife I would want you absolutely exactly so so it did and some of the stories I think do kind of take advantage of that they are very introspective that they take place within the character's head as the character thinks about things which have just happened or which might be about to happen. I was also quite keen to just convey the texture of what it's like to be on a plane at such a these days it's such a common almost universal experience really and a very specific one very in many ways very unlike the rest of our lives and so I was quite keen to just try convey what what that was like What is the nature of that experience what some of the views for instance that you get out of the window of planes. We sort of take that for granted very well is there it's totally extraordinary now you're I would describe you as quite cosmopolitan writer because you're last book all that man is is also collection of connecting stories set in different countries got many different nationalities in this place real breadth you know from Hong Kong to Dachau Senegal Sao Paolo in Brazil what do what does that allow you to to do and where does that come from how you were able to imagine yourself in all these different the heads of all these different nationalities Yes I mean obviously it was in a way a slow it was almost a perverse decision with these very small stories fundamentally very small in terms of the number of words to try and use them to paint on the sort of biggest available canvas of the entire planet Dave is a lawyer that talking about his new collection of short stories turbulence is published by Penguin my guests on today's Sound are film producer Tim Decker Mattel 2 am musician and composer Evelyn Adeline Evelyn any unusual encounters while travelling for you lately been my best encounter is taken off in India from Himalayas and a few minutes later I actually saw a shingle a pass where we just performed and 6 of September that was the most probably unique experience of ever had on the plane say in 5000 metres past where just previously played and seen it from a 1000 meters so that was a lovely travelling experience let's talk about collections of short stories as well are you fans of the form the short story form I think it's the highest form of writing to be able to craft a short story Evelyn or do you have particular feelings about short stories as a composer the short story format is they're interesting to me I grew up playing a lot of Scrabble and produce an album Leif's and that's why they're called album leaves because basically just turn the live and it's gone. So I personally few years ago wrote an album called 12 colorful prudes where I 2 little tiny miniatures . One minute long one half that long and combine them into a 25 minutes album so I can really relate to you how David solo talked about having this collection of stories under one guise of storytelling so I can really relate can you or do you love a short story 10 Decca or deliver a short story and I've just commissioned a whole range of short stories which I'm planning to make into an anthology television series almost. All set in the futuristic world in Africa and I'm really looking forward to receiving the submissions and reading those short thank you both very much you're listening to be fair on the b.b.c. World Service with me Nikki Beatty How much do you know about the music scene in Pakistan maybe you know the late great coalescing and. All or some of the rock bands like Junoon he were big in the ninety's Well unlike the countries neighbor India whose music scene apart from the classical world is dominated by Bollywood songs Pakistan has a growing independent music scene but how were those musicians dealing with the over reliance on corporate sponsorship from companies like Coke and Pepsi The B.B.C.'s Bobby friction went to karate to find out how artists push to excel in a difficult musical environment he begins by talking to members of the band crush me in this country you've got the real mainstream music you've got religious music folk music just how big is the independent scene in this country is there it's not that big but it does abroad you know if you can support yourself financially at one point you're like Ok I'm just going to get a job and but there's but that's just point is it is really amazing musicians and I'm a big fan of some bands there's one called you know because Bush the situation at the moment. There's no recognition for them there's no music or. Surprisingly. Sponsored programs. A long way off. Is still considered the best way to get your music. Television radio. Consider radio. I was shocked by that. Because. It's. Up. In the hands of the people. Major cities if there's even a small group of 50 people happening every single week and that is the kind of policies that really strangest. Music journalist and they're not very radio journalist you know Ali and members of the band push me we're talking to the B.B.C.'s Bobby friction off Rick is as I like to call him he calls me knickers but that's another story I really met lots of interesting stuff in there about the music industry and the influence of corporate sponsorship is that an area that extends into your music. It's very interesting that you asked me that because I was just like she wrote in that in my notes that I can completely relate to what you're saying because I've always been an independent artist I've never had a record deal I've never had a manager I never had a promoter and the 1st many years it felt like a chore it felt like and adversity is felt really hard now is feels like a privilege that I've done all the parts of this trade and now I actually wouldn't recommend your own even if or had one so when did you want to manage your net result I want in the. Beginning I did and I was struggling a lot and I probably wouldn't know who would do the job for me that I can do myself so I can really relate it to them for being independent musicians and pushing through everything by themselves on this week's cultural front line 8 a spoken word special from Lagos Nigeria and don't forget the arts are on top travels the world once a month bringing you the biggest names in arts and culture for the country and city were in with live music and comedy every show is up on the Arts our website for your listening delight So take a trip to Tunis I just about Mumbai Reykjavik said Petersburg are many more about global destinations Don't go away there's lots more to come and the arts hours back after this. Distribution of the b.b.c. 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It's actually just a very intuitive and very inspiring to play it feels very natural to play this just like an instrument. Well that's coming up on the. B.b.c. News with Neil Nunez the Chinese president Xi Jinping has marked the 40th anniversary of the opening up of the country's economy with a warning that no one can dictate to China what it should or shouldn't do Mr she said China had been on a soul stirring journeys in dumb show being 1st introduced market reforms in 1978 and should have high as spiration for the future a u.n. Brokered a cease fire in Yemen has got off to a shaky start with fighting breaking out in the port of her data just minutes after it was due to have begun government forces blamed who the rebels the British cabinet meets today to consider whether to intensify preparations for leaving the European Union without a deal the prime minister to resign May has told M.P.'s that they won't be able to vote on the agreement she's reached with the e.u. Until January a quarter no Salvado has freed a woman who spent a year and a 7 months in jail accused of trying to abort her baby the 20 year old woman said she had become pregnant by her stepfather who sexually abused her under El Salvador's strict anti abortion laws she had been charged with attempted murder New Zealand is to hold a binding referendum on legalizing cannabis for recreational use in 2020 an opinion poll last year found that 2 thirds of New Zealand has favored legalization the Gulf state of Qatar is celebrating its national day exactly 4 years before the emirate hosts the final of the football World Cup that ornament is the fast to be played in winter to avoid the extreme summer heat the World Cup is expected to cost more than $100000000000.00 to put on and caught the government has been heavily criticised over one because welfare Afifa investigation cleared the Gulf state of allegations of corruption during the bidding process b.b.c. News. 1 Welcome back to the arts are on the b.b.c. World Service with me and if you've only just joined us he's a rapid recap of what you missed in the 1st half of the show Oscar winning Mexican director Alfonso cuarón told us about his latest movie Roma author David talked turbulence his latest collection of short stories and we went to Pakistan to find out about the independent music scene there. Coming up in this half of the program in a moment the white genius actor and director Andy Serkis talks about Mowgli his retelling of Roger Kipling's the jungle but we also have music from Bulgaria Iceland and from one of my studio guests pianist and composer Evelyn that Alain has joined here by filmmaker tend to come a tattoo film 1st then and over 5 years ago actor and filmmaker Andy Serkis began his odyssey to bring a gritty darker version of The Jungle Book to life his movie is called Legend of the jungle and the circus has appeared in the flesh in films like 13 Going On 30 and Black Panther he's perhaps most famous though for championing performance capture technology which he's used to portray Gollum in The Lord Of The Rings films and Caesar in the Planet Of The Apes franchise he told the B.B.C.'s Chris Evans that his Mowgli is the antithesis of the Disney versions of the story. It's the original Roger book which people seem to forget that they were I mean that's that is the thing that we're sort of rediscovering and in setting this movie is that people a lot of people have absolutely forgotten that it was a book written in 1904 by Roger Kipling and so we've gone right back to the source material and yet it's very much about the central emotional journey of this boy who finds himself to be an outsider now cost of $2.00 worlds both worlds of animal and both in the world of man so it's about it's a voyage of discovery about identity about him trying to see how he fits into the world which is very complicated and complex and there is humor in it but it's it is a dark edge of a version for sure care anybody is going to care and in stupid things kids may find themselves being brought up by animals in the future because maybe every bill so that we could actually return to his question of is quite prophetic in a way just you saying that reject keeping rates in 1905 makes me want to read it again yeah just use my phone call it was the last century before that's right now that's what I mean anyway we do you going to a little bit about I mean it was of the time of the British Empire it was of colonialization of India so he was a really interesting right because he was the most beloved author of his generation but also you know he grew up in India Hindi was his 1st language and then a very young age was sent over to live in England and was kind of a brutal upbringing in a boarding house in South Bend and really the story is a personal journey of you know Mowgli is kind of a version of him but he also he's an interesting writer because he's both he was loved all his generation but then became reviled as a symbol of imperialist Britain sounds like a film that yeah well that's what you're thinking about him there's no. Question That was almost. But it's funny because you're you're attractive you got your part of the Apes you've got your history with a lot of the Rings The Middle Earth kindness of it all and this is not the same as you so so what would you what would you call that genre films and why. If you've been drawn back to it I love telling stories that have a use out agree and metaphor to say something about you know about us about the human condition in a way that you can reach a very wide audience and you know instead of kind of dealing with the problems that we all face on a day to day level in in a real way sometimes it's easier to talk about those things through through you know or through animals or you know where you very closely examining the Will problems that we have but you know you're seeing it through a metaphorical allegorical lens world premiere in India Yeah. But I mean we're going out on Netflix I mean this film this film started life at one of the studios it was acquired by Netflix so there is you can see in cinemas the next few weeks but it's also today we're launching on Netflix and Netflix have this huge obviously global reach and their interest lies in. Going out immediately in 190 countries so we were able to this would never have happened had it just been purely a studio movie. In the country in the country which was what was it like was that Nightline was using was that yeah it was just wonderful it was it was a huge kind of celebration of this beloved story and. This huge build out the whole thing the whole cinema looked like a jungle I mean I made like a jungle it was more to fools and rocks and I mean for the invite Yeah well you know sounds amazing. It is just get back into it's what you mostly Robin Chand is a very very amazingly talented young actor who started I mean this film has taken a long time to come to the screen that we started in well I came aboard in 2013 he started teaching 2014 he he he was 10 going on 11 at the time he's now got a beard and children but I mean he's. Just. Talented really I mean he's If you were to discrete of the description from Roger book it is he writes a kid who is wise beyond his years. So you know it's a really physical what he goes through this journey is an adult journey for a kid I mean it's a it's a fantastically physical emotional rollercoaster for the central character and he plays beautifully and the 2nd and Mowgli legend of the jungle is on Netflix world wide I saw some of the photographs from the premiere in Bombay on them by a as we call it and I assume it's been dubbed into Hindi because they had some Indian actors there but a very interesting thing Evelyn it Elaine and filmmaker 10 decorator through my guests today well we heard from Andy Serkis there about going back to the original book rather than working from film Evelyn are you like me grew up on the book version not on the Disney versions didn't you know we didn't have Disney in so it you know. You know I absolutely love Jungle Book My favorite was Rick it's a good. Result clearly there was there was the story where there's a child you know were you reading in English or you reading in Russian Yeah wow so you still say Rikki tikki television critic at the moment yes exactly. And I'm ugly exactly like that yeah what about you did there. Did you grow up with the book or the films question I can remember I think it probably was the film's 1st and then read the programme and I was a little bit older but yeah. The Bear. Has going back to the original but being a smart move and the circus I think so I mean I think you know when you're up against the Disney version you have to time tackle it in a different way and from what I've seen of the film it looks amazing and I think he's achieved that So Andy Serkis and Alfonso Koran's films both released in cinemas and on Netflix What impact is that having on how films are being made well I think that had there been a traditional distribution. On offer form Oakley I'm not sure it would have been made actually because Disney with the Jungle Book went out who was huge it was a massive success and Warners will turn around him very nervous I'm going hard do we release this in multiple territories you know what kind of money do we have to spend on this and can we really compete with Disney and the simple answer I love once but it's no and with Netflix it means that the film has ended you said is it $190.00 countries similar heinously around the world that's amazing that's completely incredible and 5 years ago that would have happened in terms of the way that the Academy works you vote for the Oscars. Netflix so far haven't been able to put forward films because they are streaming platform there for this year a number of their films have had day in day releases they've been shown in cinemas to make them eligible for the Academy Award season would it be remarkable if Romar was nominated and would it be nominated in the best film in a foreign language category or could it even be the best film category which they now bumped up to 10 how is it going to work give us an insight for such a you know. An interesting question I think the whole industries asking itself the same question of my opinion on this is that. Film is a creative piece of work and the craft that the filmmakers put into that should be rewarded and whether their film gets played in the cinema or gets played on television the craft and the energy and the artistic intention is still there and I think you know yes films should be able to they should be eligible for means that are not necessarily going on the big screen that being said both Netflix and Amazon are releasing forms around the world moment I think Rome has just gone out on more screens than when it started and been very successful it was also the subject of heated debates over the During the Venice Film Festival the French exhibit is we're not happy at all that it won awards but you know I think it's look ultimately the film is going to be nominated I'm pretty convinced of that because it's a remarkable piece of work if it gets nominated in both categories I was asking myself exactly that same question you know I think maybe you should just go into the best category in that way other films that are the foreign language from here I mean I would trust very good question about that is a question for a living because I've just done an adaptation of crime and punishment which I completed I have shot the last year in completed a couple of weeks ago set in contemporary Johannesburg and somebody recently told me that the English version of crime and punishment of the English translation of crime and punishment was actually very inaccurate for a long time and I don't know do you know that there was a difference in the translation and that it's been retranslated since and it's a lot more makes a lot more sense and is truer to the original I haven't read the English version I hope it's true I know they were war and peace is kind of very different in English I mean probably because it has to reflect the difference in culture so probably look what I mean if there's 10 Decker's saying for a long time the English translation wasn't quite good enough or didn't quite get distill the essence but now there are translators who have done it well I mean that's always got to be a problem has net when you take literature from one country to the other Absolutely I once tried to translate my own song into English and I just had to. Write new lyrics as. Place. Early on I love that story just ahead concerts just heard no concerts in English this is the. Very end you're listening to the b.b.c. World Service ever Lena De Laine let me turn totally to you now although you can still join in 10 Deca on the 6th of September this year you and a team of adventurous took a ground piano up to the jingle a pass in the Himalayas you performed music by Chopin Chopin in the clouds then as well as compositions from your own solo album sold journey the project is part of concerts in the clouds and raises money for the Cystic Fibrosis Trust a charity so your comments are also involved building a concert hall out of recycled plastic bottles you broke the record for the highest classical concert in the world 4800 meters Well what I was like 1st of all playing music at that altitude. From the physical perspective it was their hands were lucky it wasn't raining but it was hailing it was snowing it was really really really windy I lost my sock my food froze my my hand for as the chair was shaking because the wind was given the earth tremors it was really it was extreme. It was want to do this well actually I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkies always likes unusual things and I like than usual pro projects and growing up my life in music was always extreme it was 1015 hours of play in the very day working and clubs opera fields doing different things in music maybe wasn't extreme in terms of all tissues but I was as extreme as I overplayed my hands and I gots chronic tendonitis and I had to quit classical music for 14 years. And when I got offered this opportunity by. The eccentric piano tuner from Camden Camden is an area of north London that's where all the creatives than eccentrics go and so he of offered me this project because he thought I kind of fits the vision of the pianist you want to take there and I said this is a piano Cina that offered you that this is what I'm what sort of things had to be put in place to ensure that this grand piano I wasn't spoilt in those weather conditions how does it how does it sound even I mean how did the keys go down in that kind of cold explain to me well how it affected the piano well 1st it was spoiled in the Delhi airport when the forklift went through. This is a story that is very familiar as you know coming from India. Then they then they took it down till a it was a 2 day ride which obviously didn't help then we had over her so in Lay and it sounded whore. Bull and when we got it there it was 7 and a half hours Jay pride on the rockiest road you've ever seen so you think you know it's going to fall apart completely it didn't sound good yesterday and lay what's going to sounded like it's 5000 meters and we have our answer it sounded amazing didn't it was the quality of sounds I've never heard before because it's so quiet up. He wasn't quiet the wind was roaring I think the mountains around us creates it's a natural reverb is the kind of reverb you cannot emulate that type of reverb in the in the music studio there was a believe the unique crispness I think because it was cold it made the string sound the crispy very precise so the sat at the piano sounded amazing and what about the reactions from people you met along the way well some people thought we were crazy but most of it was very supportive there was see a marathon going on at the same time and lots of muscle runners they came to our rehearsals and the Excite is and we could relate to each other because we were both like extremists sorry you're both crazy always a very bad man so we were both extreme people doing extreme things they were running a marathon and the Malays were taking the piano and 5000 years we can hear some of your music now this is the 1st track on your album it's called Norwegian fields would you introduce the piece of music and tell us what the inspiration was for this yes I used to play on this crew is. And they used to do lots of Christe from the region curates and I really love this in the ring and there was one day when we were going through the Trold here with a toy in the morning and it's one of those nights when the sun never sets summer night in the north and I just saw this absolutely incredible scenery the mountains and the waterfalls and the skies and knowing that is to am I got so inspired so I started literally play in what I saw Mr literally performing the scenary that was coming to me describing because I'm an impressionist composer so this is how this piece was boring. That Liz Norwegian Fjords from your album Soul Johnny you was smiling and wanted to tell me a funny story about it now we've just been transported by the beauty of the house but what's the funny story of the funny story is that when the new Mission Impossible film came out it was just before my journey to the Himalayas and me and my photographer who later went with Museum unless we went to see Mission Impossible the latest and as they were fighting actually in Jammu and Kashmir we got very excited because that's where we're going so there's this big fight happening in German Kashmir and we see Tom Cruise dangling of the mountain and suddenly out of recognize that location and this popular truck in Norway where I actually went up this puppets rockets the most incredible sight seeing kind of point to Norway and I'm thinking oh how come they filmed German Kasmir in Norway and then one week later I am in German Kashmir performing the region fjords a life in his hates on life synchronous What do you call that you haven't heard of that will make. I at the end I really miss your staying with us more music now in the UK and the Icelandic musician and producer. Of the amount composes film and t.v. Soundtracks The Hunger Games Gimme Shelter classical music pop and electronica he's a master of strings piano and synthesizers and we love him he's been on 2 of this year and came into the b.b.c. To speak to Marianne Hobbs about his incredible self playing piano. The last time you were on the program you explained to us that you built this incredible software package that you could play your principal piano and 2 were the pianists would respond to what it was that you were playing and I'm just wondering having taken those pianos out on the road with you know how that relationship develops. It's great it's one of the most fun parts for me for on this tour because it's a live instrument because it's using some generative algorithms which sounds really technical but it's actually just very intuitive and very inspiring to play it feels very natural to play that's just like an instrument and it makes it so that it's not just different slightly like I can never fully predict how the rhythms algorithms will react to what I do even though I've said legs start of settings you know to say the tempo the kind of rhythm there's always like slight differences and . Each day I can continue developing the patterns and changing them and you'll see like. Especially interludes that I have in my set where I like to improvise a bit they are completely different at the end of the tour than the beginning of the Tour Of course each day there's I make one change to the algorithm and suddenly the song is completely things that it's really great and just keeps me on my toes keeps things inspiring. And make sure that I'm not playing the same show every night. For Arnold talking about his self playing pm is Evelyn a Delaine as a musician as a pianist how much text do you use when you're composing and what did you think of that very very flaky I loved it I know his work and I think you're the creative and for me the most important and interesting thing about all of for is that he switched from being a drummer in the metal band to being a Kubrick player and the creator of those kind of mood like. Atmospheres and I guess that's surprising because I mean what if you are a musician and he is a multi instrumentalist I mean surely you just take the work and the gig is there for you to go on a journey and then you can switch or do you think that people have a pure talent. Well and so it is frowned upon to be multi answer and. Now that easy interesting we're now encouraged I see then I was made to quit saxophone when I went to college very interesting by the way Andy Serkis I believe plays the saxophone just to bring this around so all of us been very successful crossing over into other areas film and t.v. Soundtracks collaboration's with other musicians he produces a mix is in technology I mean do you think of musician today than ever Lena must have those extra skills. I personally need to have those extra skills myself I think it's useful I've course now sung pure classical musicians that they don't need to have those skills but in the world of a kind of our generation 3040 years old and if we want to kind of connect our music to current affairs I think we do need to have those skills yes tended to when your choosing a composer for your films what is it you're looking for. You know well I think I'll get into trouble if I try to do that is what did you think of the self playing well and I was honest of all I think experimentation is fantastic I mean but it was also this thing of and maybe it's just me but the idea that you know that people can be replaced by augury Thems is quite scary and I'm and I'm I'm I'm a bit old fashioned and I think that you know in music as there in film there's there's a lot of storytelling there's emotions that have to be vocal in a more show that you can get across with very good point back to you choosing a composer of your films then obviously not with an algorithm What do you look for so typically the directors that I work with have preferred composers who they would who they like to work with Sometimes however we experiment a little bit and we think about music in the film in a slightly different way. And I've worked in the past with musicians who've never composed I was very very privileged to work with a South African musician called Spoke My farmer Oh amazing. The. Amazing guy so so we wanted something very different for a film that I called called Harbor by a woman called Carrie McKenzie and we decided to work with spoken here it was incredible because he brought a very different sensibility to the work into the film and he viewed it I guess as a little bit more as an outsider he wasn't a filmmaker but he's a storyteller and you know his his music his really daring bold electronic music has added a whole different layer to the score that from a fantastic finally even more music from both Gary and singer eugénie Georgieva who sings a piece called a dragon in love with a maid and she explained to the B.B.C.'s Catherine to kill whatever song and story originated. So it's a love story about a drug who fell in love with a young go and this is connected to the ritual for was a little one there which is performed in the spring and it's a rite of passage for young ghost. And people believe that if somebody for whatever reason the right of passage and didn't do there was a woman a ritual they can be kidnapped by a dragon and then that being their hides so this particular girl. Beautiful hour she is very afraid of the dragon and she says I am afraid of you you are breathing fire you are all burning I cannot be with you she says to not worry you just grow up I'll take you with me will not talk. To and. Thank you to my guests today Evelyn a delay and 10 Dec and my tattoo and thank you for your company on this week's Elsa don't forget you can be in touch with me and the show you via email the. B.b.c. Dr u.k. Also if you're using social media when you want to be in touch use the hash tag b.b.c. 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Everybody China's president warns the world no one can dictate to us what we should and shouldn't do we'll tell you what the implications are also we'll bring you the story of a Yemeni mother who's been prevented from seeing her dying son because of the United States travel ban on people from 7 mainly Muslim countries new analysis on just how social media in all its forms was influenced by Russia during the 2016 election in the United States to talk to one the people who carried out that research we hear from 2 families affected by the violence and tension existing between the state of Israel and Palestinian people living in Gaza all those stories on the sport and the Business coming up after places world news. Was. B.b.c. News I'm John Shea the Chinese president Xi Jinping has marked the 40th anniversary of the opening up of the country's economy with a warning that no one can dictate to China what it should or shouldn't do Mr she said China would not develop at the expense of other nations Stephen McDonell reports President Xi Jinping said that a lifting of 740000000 people out of poverty had been a miracle but the world should expect more miracles where that came from he also said that China's economy would continue to open up but that it takes a good blacksmith to make good steel and that the key to development here lies with the Communist Party on the other hand he warned others not to dictate how China should move forward without specifying who those others might be the British cabinet meets today to consider whether to intensify preparations for leaving the European Union without a deal Meanwhile the opposition Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn has tabled a motion of no confidence in the prime minister to resign May although not in the government itself has been right a motion of no confidence in the government could trigger a general election within a fortnight if the prime minister was defeated but it's a move labor is not yet willing to make Number 10 has said it would provide parliamentary time at the earliest opportunity for such a vote but not play along with the silly political games that accuse Jeremy Corbin of indulging in yesterday when he called for a confidence vote in the prime minister but while his parliamentary brinkmanship rolls on the cabinet is set to decide whether or not to ramp up preparations for a no deal breaker.