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Icelands Prime Minister resigned after revelations that he sheltered huge sums offshore during an economic crisis. Thousands of icelanders protested yesterday, after the news came out in millions of leaked documents. They detail tax avoidance schemes by World Leaders and others. In washington, president obama pointed to the Panama Papers revelations as he touted new rules that target tax inversions. Thats when u. S. Companies shift ownership of their interests overseas, on paper, at least, to take advantage of lower tax rates. At the white house today, mr. Obama called inversions one of the most insidious corporate practices. When companies exploit loopholes like this, it makes it harder to invest in the things that are going to keep americas economy going strong for future generations. It sticks the rest of us with the tab. And it makes hardworking americans feel like the deck is stacked against them. Ifill mr. Obama acknowledged the loophole is legal, but he said, thats exactly the problem, and he urged congress to close it for good. In south africa, parliament voted down an attempt today to impeach president jacob zuma. His African National congress and the main opposition, engaged in fierce debate, but in the end, the impeachment motion was defeated, 233 to 143. Zuma got into trouble for using 16 million in state funds to renovate his home. Last week, south africas top court ruled hed ignored a court order to repay part of the money. The government of greece has temporarily halted deportations of migrants to turkey, after just one day. The European Union plan hit a snag when 4,000 potential deportees applied for asylum. Meanwhile, migrants protested at a Holding Center on the greek island of lesbos. They and others condemned the return deal. translated i dont want to go back to turkey. We prefer to die. I dont want to go to turkey. There are problems there, what should we do, die in pakistan . Its better that we die here, so that greece understands whats going on. Ifill also today, greece announced that pope francis and ecumenical patriarch bartholomew, leader of the worlds orthodox christians, will visit lesbos next week. Back in this country, the governor of mississippi signed a bill that lets businesses refuse to serve gays and lesbians, on religious grounds. Similar bills have been vetoed in georgia and south dakota. And in North Carolina, a new law that limits bathroom options for transgender people prompted paypal today to cancel expansion plans in the state. And wall street had a bad day after the head of the International Monetary fund warned the Global Recovery is still too slow. The Dow Jones Industrial average lost 133 points to close at 17,603. The nasdaq fell nearly 48 points, and the s p 500 dropped 21. Still to come on the newshour whats at stake in todays wisconsin primary. Republican senators break ranks to meet with the Supreme Court nominee. Protecting student privacy in the age of big data, and much more. Ifill tonight, wisconsin is the center of the political universe, with president ial primaries that further define this 2016 race. Republican frontrunner donald trump, who has been trailing in recent statewide polls, lashed out again today at his closest rival, texas senator ted cruz. Well, ted cruz cant win. Theres no way he can get the delegates. Everybody has said that. All of your friends and everyone ive watched have said that its impossible, almost impossible, for ted cruz to win. He would have to get it at the convention, which i think would be highly unlikely. So he cant win. We can win fairly easily, if we won wisconsin, that would be a big help. Ifill both cruz and Ohio Governor john kasich spent the day off the campaign trail. Democrats face a tight race in the badger state as well, with Bernie Sander favored to win. Both he and Hillary Clinton spent the day away from wisconsin. Clinton spent the day in new york, which holds its primary in two weeks. She talked about her drawn out battle with sanders on the view. You have to look at the broader perspective. Weve won some, hes won some. But i have 2. 5 million more votes than he does. And i have a very significant lead in delegates, which is what eventually decides who the nominee is. Ifill sanders is scheduled to rally supporters in wyoming later tonight. For more on primary day in wisconsin, john yang joins us now from a milwaukee polling site. Hi, john. So whats election day look like in milwaukee . Well, gwen, is looks a lot like this in milwaukee and across the state. This is the Municipal Building in downtown milwaukee. State Election Officials all across the state reporting heavy turnout, long lines, nothing no problems, they say. But theyre projecting a turnout of 40 , which would be the highest since 1980, and they already say that projection may be too low. Even before the day began, they had a lot of votes. 209,000 absentee and early inperson vote. Thats more than twice the number of the 2012. So its big turnout today. Officials say no problems with the me voter i. D. Law. Anecdotal evidence on social media suggests that only a hand full of people have been turned away. The biggest problem people are talking about on social media finding parking near their polling place, gwen. Ifill well, the voter i. D. Laws, the voter identification laws have not depressed turnout, what explains this incredible turnout . Reporter well, youve got a lot of interest in the president ial race. But, also, there is a hot Supreme Court race, state Supreme Court race statewide. Thats driving a lot of the turnout. But i think the president ial race is the big draw here. But also in wisconsin, they have prided themselves for many years about Voter Participation and voter turnout, and also since 2010, when a party fracture kept a lot of democrats home and they got Governor Scott walker was eelected, the republicans took over the state legislature, the republicans took the senate seat as well. Since then, youve had the recall votes of 2011, 2012. I think that voter turnout and Voter Participation is something thats become the norm here in wisconsin. Ifill well, youve had those recalls, those efforts to recall scott walker along the way, which, also, ginned up a lot of turnout. So we have seen, as you well know, the latest polls show ted cruz and Bernie Sanders doing leading, not the frontrunners in every place else, but these two leading in the final polls going into tonight. Does that match with what youre seeing as well . Reporter that is. Thats what the latest the last preelection polls were showing. And very unscientific talking to folks, we seem to be hearing a lot about that. Now, what that does, if those things hold up, what will that do to the race . The way the delegates are allotted here in this race, even if donald trump does lose statewide, there are the republican delegates are allocated some statewide to the statewide winner, some winner take all in congressional districts. And given his support in the northern part of the state, its possible that donald trump could walk away tonight with a handful of delegates, not a lot, but when he has that much lead, every little bit helps. On the democratic side, the delegates are apportioned proportionally. So if the race is as close as the preelection polls indicate, even if she loses, hillary hilly clintons going to walk away with a good share of the delegates tonight. Ifill all of these candidates have already decamped to the next battleground, havent they . Reporter actually, sanders was make something lastminute stops here this morning, trump as well. The only candidate who is going to be here tonight is ted cruz, which gives perhaps an indication of how he thinks hes going to do today. Ifill john yang for us tonight in milwaukee. Thank you so much. Ifill youll be able to find continuing, constantly updated political coverage including tonights wisconsin primary results online. Thats at pbs. Org newshour. Ifill Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland made the rounds on capitol hill again today. Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell remains determined not to hold confirmation hearings. Some Senate Republicans, including Judiciary Committee chairman charles grassley, have announced a willlingness to meet the nominee, although he and Senate Majority leader say they will not schedule hearings or a vote. Today judge garland did meet two republicans senator john boozman of arkansas and senator Susan Collins of maine. She joins us now from capitol hill. Senator collins, tell us about your meeting with the judge. Judge. It was an excellent meeting. We talked for over an hour about a range of issues that included his judicial philosophy, Second Amendment cases, the separation of powers, the executive overreach. We were able to touch on a great many issues. Ifill did you conclude that he is qualified for at least a hearing, if not confirmation . I certainly believe that he is qualified for a hearing. He has been a distinguished jurist for 13 years on the d. C. Circuit court, and i found his answers to demonstrate that hes thought deeply about the issues, that hes highly intelligent, and that hes a careful, meticulous judge. Having said that, i would, of course, not make a final decision on his nomination until there were public hearings because its that kind of indepth vetting that gives you the information that you need. Ifill as you know, your colleague, senator mark kirk of illinois, last week also met with judge garland and came away and said that he felt that his colleagues who would not do that are closed minded. Do you agree with him . No, i would not say that. Although i would hope that more and more senators would find time in their schedules to sit down with judge garland. I believe that they would benefit from hearing from him firsthand, and i know that i did. Ifill you have said in other interviews that you are perplexed that senator mcconnell, that majority leader mcconnell is drawing such a firm line on this. Tell me what you mean by that. Well, gwen, this is a very unpredictable political year, and we have no idea who the next president is going to be. But if the next president is a democrat, its certainly conceivable that she or he might choose a nominee who is far to judge garlands left. If the next president is donald trump, hes a very unpredictable person. Who knows who his nominee would be . In this case, we have a nominee with 19 years of experience, and i believe that we should take the process a step at a time and doing the meeting today was the first step, and i think the next step should be hearings. Ifill did the white house reach out to you directly to ask you to meet with him . Yes. Ifill and what did you say to them . I said i would be happy to meet with them. I would note that that is standard procedure with every Supreme Court nominee on whom ive ever voted, regardless of what administration it was, the white house asks you to sit down with the nominee, and ive always found that those oneonone conversations give me a great insight into the nominees views, integrity, intellect, fidelity to the constitution and respect for the rule of law. Ifill in your opinion, senator collins, is the opposition to judge garland rooted in principle, in policy, or in politics . I believe that the Senate Republican leader, mitch mcconnell, sincerely believes that the next president should choose the next justice on the Supreme Court. I dont happen to agree with him. As i look at the constitution, the president has the right, indeed the obligation, to appoint judicial nominees, to nominate people for the courts, including the highest court in the land. And after all, president obama is our president right now, and will be until january of next year. So we just have an honest disagreement about this issue. But i certainly respect and understand the contrary point of view. Ifill part of what senator mcconnell, point he made is why drag judge garland through what he called an unnecessary political ar routine if hes not going to be considered or confirmed . Well, i dont think judge garland views it that way or he wouldnt have agreed to be nominated for this important post. And he did agree to be nominated. He is making the rounds on capitol hill. And one encouraging sign to me is before the congressional recent recess, there were only two of us on the republican side that were willing to sit down with judge garland oneonone to meet with him, and now there are more than a dozen republican senators. I believe thats a positive step forward, and it is the way the normal process would work. I would also note that it is not unusual for Supreme Court nominees to be contentious. There have been democrats who have blocked republican nominees, including when president obama participated in a filibuster to try to block Justice Alito from being named to the court. So there have been political shenanigans on both sides of the aisle when it comes to the Supreme Court. I think it would be better if we depoliticized the process. Ifill shenanigans is such a good word. Senator Susan Collins, republican of maine, thank you for joining us. Thank you. Ifill stay with us, coming up on the newshour racial bias in medical care. Archaeologists return to a region of iraq threatened by isis. The women huskies of uconn on track to make basketball history. And the harsh cycle of poverty told through the story of evictions. But first, School Districts across the country are going hightech, incorporating educational apps and digital programs into the classroom. But fears about the privacy and security of students personal information are on the rise. Special correspondent john tulenko of Education Week reports as a part of our tuesday night series, making the grade. Reporter miami, florida is taking on one of public educations oldest problems with so many students, how do you personalize instruction . One answer is with computers. At miamis Iprep Academy one sizefitsall lessons are a thing of the past. We all started at the very beginning, and then some just took off. Reporter nicole rasmuson teaches math, using innovative software. Its about 70 online and its a smart program, and so it checks are they understanding, are they answering questions correctly right away . Are they struggling . Is it taking them a long time to answer questions . Do they keep making mistakes . Reporter all the while, the computer is crunching and storing data about the students and sending back customized lessons. Itll ask them what are your interests . And so, in the word problems, itll, if one kids really interested in food, itll talk about cookies and that kinda stuff. Itll even ask them, what are your friends names . And then itll put their friends names in the problems, too. Reporter all that gets uploaded, along with student schedules, grades, discipline records, homework and even emails. The makings of what some have called a digital profile, that privacy expert Joel Reidenberg fears could someday be used in unauthorized ways. Were going to have a lot of data floating around, with a lot of very detailed information that can be quite surprising. One example what a child eats in the School Cafeteria is collected, using a student id card. We can envision a day for example that Health Insurance Company Wants to see what they ate when they were third graders, to decide how they were going to underwrite insurance. Is it far fetched . It could be. We dont know. Reporter already students data has been misused. Google was recently sued for scanning students email accounts in order to build advertising profiles. The tech giant has since stopped and pledged, along with 214 other companies, not to use student data for commercial purposes. But there are a whole lot more companies out there. Im trying to protect my kids and theres so much Data Collection thats going on right now, that we were not even aware of. Reporter Suzette Lopez is a graphic designer, who sends her children to miami public schools. Its these Third Party Vendors that are what were partnering with that were bringing em in but then is how much oversight really is there with these partners . Whos keeping an eye on that data . I think thats absolutely a legitimate concern. But i think responsible School Systems that have the appropriate policies and safeguards quite frankly, reduce that threat. Reporter to protect personal data, miami superintendent Alberto Carvalho requires that teachers and students use a web portal. All the apps and software inside have been vetted, and the Companies Must sign contracts that prohibit any unauthorized or commercial use of students information. These rules are strictly enforced. I can tell you the penalties that we apply in miami when private Companies Default on their contractual obligation, which is we bar them from future business with a school system. Reporter so far, the district says, the Tech Companies have stuck to the rules. But at iprep, teachers say they go outside the portal to use unregulated apps everyday. And theyre not the only ones. Id love to go around this little group and ask you to name some apps that youve downloaded on your School Computer that are not part of the portal. Ive downloaded oovoo, skype spotify, octagon. So just the basic stuff. I found, like, several very reacharounds, to the school wifi and the different barriers they put up. Theyre pretty easy to go around. Its not the most comprehensive barriers in the world. Isnt that the definition of true human ingenuity . And there is no gadget, no amount of technology that stands up to the ingenuity of a kid. Thats where the social and behavior teaching come in. That is the most important thing we can do, is actually teach students responsible use, liabilities, but also the benefits of using this new technology in this new environment. Reporter even if students took those lessons to heart, their personal data, including names, addresses, and Social Security numbers can still be compromised. It happened in the case of pamela rhimgrant. Pamela rhimgrant was a Food Services manager at the Horace Mann Elementary School here in miami, and she was found to have been stealing student identities from the miamidade public School Computer system. Reporter in 2014, u. S. Attorney Frank Maderal prosecuted rhimgrant for stealing Social Security numbers from 400 students and using them to file fraudulent tax returns. Exactly what did she have to do, in order to walk away with a childs Social Security number . Login, access the information, print it out. My sons Social Security was stolen. So he was stolen and and it took three years to clear up and three years to keep on telling the i. R. S. That my son was my son. Reporter lopez family was victimized in 2008, well before the rhimgrant case but the effect was the same. I went to go file my taxes and i couldnt. Im extremely protective and im very careful about stuff and for his number which is not readily used, was shocking. Reporter miami School Officials say hackers on the outside have never successfully broken in and stolen student data. But the growing amount of Sensitive Information stored electronically has driven lawmakers in at least 15 states to restrict what companies can collect and mandate steps to protect it. That heightened security could put a damper on Digital Tools that personalize learning. In miami, florida, im john tulenko of Education Week reporting for the pbs newshour. Ifill a new study finds africanamerican patients are often treated differently when it comes to medicine and care. The survey of more than 500 people, 400 of them medical students, found implicit bias exists that may help explain why black people are sometimes undertreated for pain. Among its findings medical students believed that African Americans felt less pain than white patients, and even thought their skin was thicker. For more on this perplexing discovery, we turn to dr. David satin of the university of minnesota medical center, and Dorothy Roberts of the university of pennsylvania. Thank you both for joining us. Dr. Satin, try to describe this disparity for me. Why does this exist . And is it new . So, gwen, weve known that this has been an issue for at least a couple of decades. And every now and then, a study comes out that underscores the need for the field of medicine, and in particular medical education, to do some work and get it right. So this is a problem, and its been a problem, and hopefully this study will spur on more activity. Ifill Dorothy Roberts, is this a medical problem or a sociological problem . Its both. I think whats really important and fascinating about the study is that for the first time, it links what weve long known as undertreatment of pain for black patients with doctors, or at least medical students false beliefs about biological differences based on race. And those beliefs, as the study has shown, are held by lay people as well. Theyre deeply embedded, longstanding myths about racial difference, especially biological differences between races, which goes back to the very concept that race is a biological difference that is widespread in u. S. Associate. So its sociological as well as medical. Ifill dr. Satin, i have to say that the thing that surprised me the most was that medical students would think this way as well as lay people. Are they being taught this . Is this something they bring with them . Unfortunately, its both. So medical students doctors are people, too. We live in society, and were exposed to the same decadeafterdecade experiences that determine our beliefs. However, one of the things one of the medical student pointed out to me this morning some of these false beliefs seem to peak in the second year of medical school as students prepare for the boards and have been memorizing these associations to answer on the board exams. Ifill this is a taught behavior, or action. This is a conscious stereotype, as well as a subconscious one. Absolutely. Its deeply rooted and fundamental to the way medical education works in the united states. Students are taught to notice the race of their patients, to treat their patients differently, because of race, and theyre taught that thats because of fundamental biological differences between people of different races. So while this is in part based on myths and stereotypes that are widely held in u. S. Society, its also based on the way students are taught to treat patients in medical schools. It requires a radical change in medical education to address this, not only addressing implicit bias but also changing the way in which human beings are treated and differences are considered in medical education. Ifill david satin, there are actually, to be fair, race not specific exactly, conditions but medicines and conditions which are more likely to affect one raits or the other. Those are controversial. We know that race is actually a socially constructed concept. Its not bile, nor is it genetic, as we learned from the human genome project. So while there are some associations, those are largely due to social effects how were raised, often ethnicity plays a factor. But they are not biological effects. Ifill but environmental effects, perhaps . Well, i think thats really important for medical students to understand, for their teachers to teach them is the difference between health outcomes, disparate health outcomes, and the idea that theyre caused by innate biological difference, which is false, versus how racism does affect health based on social inequality, not because of innate biological or genetic differences between the races. And this study points out how dangerous it is to continue to teach medical students that race is a biological category that produces these differences in health, or experience of pain based on biological differences between the races. Ifill well, let me ask you both, this was not a huge study. This is 400, 500 people, but what is your thinking ill start with you, david satin or what the consequences are of these beliefs and what should be done about it. So the consequences of the beliefs, we saw in the study, was part of what results in unequal treatment, part of what results in health disparities. Theres certainly enough blame to go around for how those result, but its a component. And what it teaches us is that we need to be proactive. I teach the medical students, look, its not jur its not your fault that you have these implicit biases. You grew up in society. We all have these. But now that you know it, its your responsibility, and we have some interventions to try to reverse that. But it also requires a fundamental change in the way in which medical education works, moving away from teach, students that the races are different because of some kind of innate biological difference that then causes health disparities, and instead showing how racism and other structural inequities cause health disparities, and explore with students how medical practice can address those. Ifill Dorothy Roberts of the university of pennsylvania, and dr. David satin of the university of minnesota medical center, thank you very much. Thank you, gwen. Thank you for having me. Ifill when isis captured the ancient city of palmyra in syria last year, they destroyed and looted priceless pieces of middle eastern history. The city was retaken last week by syrias army, and as the extremists lose more ground in iraq, archaeologists are returning to endangered sites to resecure the past. Special correspondent Jane Ferguson reports from Northern Iraq. Reporter badly damaged, but still standing. Surveying the harm done to palmyra, a drone flies above the ancient roman city. Below, land mines slow the work of syrian experts, anxious to walk amongst these precious ruins again. When isis stormed into palmyra nearly a year ago, many feared the unesco World Heritage site was lost forever. The group used it for grisly execution videos and blew up two of its temples. But much it is still intact, to the relief of syrias antiquities chief Maamun Abdelkarim translated we expected the worst because of the liberation fighting but i think the nightmare is over. The panoramic picture of palmyra is fine. Reporter when they took the town, Islamic State fighters also executed archaeologist khaled asaad, one of the countrys top historical scholars, who had dedicated most of his life to preserving palmyra. The presence of isis and other warring groups across the middle east and north africa has seen International Archaeologists abandon beloved historical sites, from libya to syria and iraq, fearful for their security. Now, with isis losing some territory, there is hope they may return to a region that had become so risky. In Northern Iraq, a team from Cambridge University is back to work, searching for signs of neanderthal life in shanidar cave. Isis never took over this area, but came deep enough into Northern Iraq to cause them to delay their dig. Professor Graeme Barker says the fighting across the region has upended much work in the field. It has affected a lot of teams because they cant get back to places. I worked before in libya in an area now that its impossible to go to, so there is a great deal so it has had a huge impact in terms of access by foreign teams. Reporter he and his team were not surprised to hear that isis was destroying historical artifacts on their rampage across the region. Anything to do with heritage because heritage is who we are. We very much we may not think about it explicitly but we are very much rooted in our past and archaeology is a highly political subject which therefore comes back to why its really important that these kind of projects continue. Reporter this dig was originally meant to take place in 2014. But it had to be delayed because isis came in and took over mosul city which is about 150 miles away from here. That year, say these archaeologists, was a writeoff for that sort of work here. But since then theyve come back twice, saying that the security is sufficient for them to continue their work. But for archaeologists across the middle east security is now a major concern with the rise of isis and other armed groups targeting historical sights. Mosul was taken over by the Islamic State in 2014. The city and its surrounding areas are rich in antiquities and historical sites. In nearby erbil, ancient pieces from mosul rest in the museum, beyond the reach of the Islamic State. Dr. Abdullah khorsheed, who leads the Iraq Institute for the conservation of antiquities and heritage, is all too aware of the damage that has already been done. translated we have very strong evidence of the damage because we are still in communication with the officials who have been working there in mosul and because of the images and the videos being published throughout social media. We are sure that most of these archaeological sites have been destroyed by isis. On a daily basis we hear that isis is trying to destroy many such areas. Reporter for archaeologists like him, they have mixed feelings about an imminent military campaign to retake mosul. Getting isis out of its historical sites may mean damaging them in the process. When we talk about a war, it means entire cities will be devastated and destroyed. This is what wars usually bring. And certainly when we try to push isis from mosul and use aerial attacks those sites will be damaged again. Reporter one ancient gem the Islamic State did not manage to capture sits in the heart of Northern Iraqs kurdistan. It remains one of the very few postcard images of the middle east still open to historians. The citadel in erbil is the only unesco World Heritage site in all of syria and iraq not on the danger list, and yet, when isis pushed into iraq in 2014 they came within 30 miles of it, threatening one of the very last Cultural Treasures in the country. Archaeologists from around the world have flocked to the middle east for centuries to study and preserve evidence of humanitys past. Now, after watching so much destruction, they will be needed to help piece it back together again. For the pbs newshour, im Jane Ferguson in Northern Iraq. Ifill now to an instant sports classic, and College Basketball history, possibly on two straight nights. William branhgam is here with the latest on the n. C. A. A. Championships, starting with last nights amazing mens title game. Brangham this had been a close game throughout the night. The North Carolina tar heels in white were trailing villanova by three points with just seconds left when the ball ends up in marcus pages hands. Theyre going to have to do something from the outside now. Its page off balance impossible how did he do that . With 4. 7 seconds to go. Brangham with just a little more than four seconds to go, everyone thought it was headed for overtime. But then this. Three seconds at midcourt. Gives it to jenkins for the championship. Villanova, the national championships, with jenkins hitting the winner at the buzzer. Brangham it was the first time a team hit a threepointer at the buzzer to win the mens title. And more history could be made tonight. The university of connecticut womens team is going for its eleventh title, and its fourth in a row when they play syracuse. To help us catch our breath and appreciate all of this, we turn to sportswriters John Feinstein of the Washington Post and numerous books. He joins us from augusta georgia where hes covering the masters for the golf channel. And, Mechelle Voepel of espn. So, John Feinstein, id like to start with you, last night, its tough to beat a game like that for excitement and adrenaline. Is that the best n. C. A. A. Final youve ever seen . Ive seen 38 of them, william, and none like that one because no one did anything wrong in that climactic final minute. Villanova made all four of their threethrows. Carolina made an extraordinary threepointer by marcus page to climax their 10point comeback and villanova at a moment when you would have thought they might panic not only got a winning shot off but their point guard with the wherewith, all to realize, he had time, even with under two seconds on the clock, to pass the ball to his best shooter, kris jenkins who naildz the threepointer at the buzzer. Ive never seen anything quite like it. Im not sure well see anything like it again. It was extraordinary. This goes down as instant classic in your mind. Instant classic. I think people tend to overstate things because we believe the last thing we saw was the best thing we saw. This one was extraordinary. These were clearly the two best teams. They had rolled over all their opponents to get to the finals, including saturday night in the semis, when villanova beat oklahoma, and neither could dominate the other. It ended the way it should with one team making a shot at the buzzer after another team had made a remarkab play just to tight game. Im curious, when you saw marcus page hit that clbl threepointer, did you think that was going to overtime . I did. I honestly did. And the reason i thought it was because villanova had to be deflated at that moment. Theyd lost a 10point lead. They hadnt done anything wrong, and yet the game was tied. They defended very well on that play where page hit that shot that youre referring to, and its to jay wrights credit and the credit of a very experienced team that in that huddle they were able to get their act together and run a play its called nova that they run in practice every day at the end of practice, and they acted as if they were in an empty gym, rather than in a football stadium with 75,000 people there and millions watching on tv. Incredible calm under pressure. All right, Mechelle Voepel, lets turn to tonight. Obviously, incredible game last night, and another potential piece of history happening tonight. Of course, no one thinks that tonights game is going to go down to the buzzer. I mean, weve got university of connecticut just on an unbelievable roll, such a long winning streak. Theyre hoping to really rack up an incredible number of titles if they win tonight. How do you explain their dominance in the womens game . Theyve got an incredible coach, somebody who has really been ahead of the game for so many years now. And hes got great continuity and staff. His top assistant, chris daily has been with him since they took over the program at connecticut back in 1985. And they were able to get not all the best players in the country, but the best players that they want, and players who want to be coached, players who are good when they come there but know they can be great when they leave and thats been a big recipe for success for them. Everyone does talk about, as you dthe influence of their coach. What is he doing . Whats the special sauce there. He is a great xs and os basketball genius. If you talk to the professional players who 21 uconn or even the professional players who played for him on the u. S. National team hell be coaching in the olympics for the second time later this year they talk about how he really was ahead of the game even 10, 20 years ago, in understanding how to teach, read, and react offense, how to get his players to play at a pace that put other teams on their heels fra the very beginning of the game. He really is a basketball genius. And what hes done with the media has been incredible, too. Hes given an enormous amount of time to the media, and hes a funny guy. Sometimes hes a very outspoken guy, sometimes a controversial guy, but hes bane terrific spokesman for womens sports and Womens Basketball specifically. University of connecticuts dominance, has it been a good thing for Womens Basketball or a bad thing . I mean, ive heard it argued both ways. What is your take on that . I never see how excellence is a bad thing. And the comparison that a lot of us have made for years is what u. C. L. A. Did and john wooden can for mens basketball, at one point winning seven titles in a row. Uconns women tonight are going to be going for four titles in a row. Theyve raced the bars, in every sport you have, individuals and teams that raise the bar that everybody else has to try on match and beat them. I understand some people look at some of their games and say its boring because they beat the other team by so much. But when you actually watch them play, what isnt boring is just how well they play basketball, and i think thats something for everybody who is trying to chase them to aspire to. John feinstein, what do you make of that . Well, i think dynasties are good for any anysport because they bring people to that sport who might not normally be paying attention. You cant not notice what the uconn women have atained. You couldnt not notice what tiger woods did in golf when he was dominating the sport. You cant not notice what ucla did when they won 10 titles in 12 years. I think its good for sports when you have a dynasty because it does raise the level of interest in the sport. The other thing that uconn has going for tunlike in the mens game, the women stay for four years. So you have a better possibility to with have a dynasty because the stars stay. They dont turn pro after a year or two. All right, well be watching tonight. John feinstein, Mechelle Voepel, thank you both very much for being here. My pleasure. Thank you. Ifill now, a look at the cascading effect of poverty on housing in america. Jeffrey brown has that in this latest addition to the newshour bookshelf. Brown every year in this country families are evicted from their homes not by tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, but by the millions. That from a new book that explores a huge but little discussed phenomenon in america today. Evicted poverty and profit in the american city, follows the lives of eight milwaukee families black and white. Author Matthew Desmond lived among them in 2008 to 2009. Hes a sociologist, a professor at harvard and a winner of a Macarthur Fellowship last year. Welcome to you. Thank you. Brown that eviction is far more prevalent than most people think and far less part of the discussion around poverty in this country. Why do you think thats the case . I think we focus a lot on jobs. We focus a lot on mass incarcerations, welfare reform. But housing has been left out of the debate a little bit. We focus on Public Housing and we focus on neighborhoods, but the private rental market where a vast majority of low income families are living has been largely overlooked. But here is this market, thats taking most of what low income families are making. Theres a brown an incredible amount, percentage of income. I mean, thats really striking. Yes. Brown 70, 80, 90 . Yeah, thats what i saw when i was living with families in milwaukee. And we reached a point today that we know that the majority of low income renters are paying most of what they have on rent and to keep the lights on. Brown i said you followed eight families. Pick one person to explain just how people fall into this and how hard it is to get out of it. Yeah, yeah. Im thinking of arlene. You know, arlene was a single mom. She had two young boys and when i met her, she was living in a pretty rundown apartment in a low Income Neighborhood and giving 88 of her income on rent. She was facing terrible choices. You know, should i buy food or pay the rent . Should i contribute some money to the funeral or pay the rent . And someone like arlene, eviction isnt necessarily the result of irresponsibility; its more inevitable. Brown theyre making some bad, poor choices, but youre showing how its kind of almost a vicious cycle, right . Of the eviction playing into those choices. Yeah, i think that when youre someone like arlene thats paying almost everything you have to the landlord, a very small divergence can invite eviction. Theres a story that the book opens with her 14yearold hitting her car with a snowball, you know, and the man jumping out and kicking in the door, that causing the landlord to evict the family. Was that a bad choice . Eviction isnt just a condition of poverty, its also a cause of it, its making things worse. Brown you show the rawness of what an eviction. I mean, you capture what it looks like. Describe that. I mean, take an example of what perhaps struck you even the first time you actually saw what thats like, when you see everything thrown out of the house. I remember seeing arlene get evicted in early january. It was the coldest day on record in milwaukee. You know, the weathermen said it would be 40 degrees below with the wind chill. And seeing, you know, a familys things piled on a curb, seeing children forced from their homes, seeing the things taken to movers and put in bondage storage and often kind of taken to the dump when families cant keep up with those payments its a violent act, eviction. It can leave a deep mark. And we know it leaves a mark on families that experience it. Brown it leaves a mark in terms of obviously their budget, but a psychological mark is what youre really documenting. Yeah, thats absolutely right. It affects your spirit. We know that mothers who are evicted two years later have higher rates of depression. We know that suicides attributed to evictions or foreclosures doubled between 2005 and 2010. So eviction not only causes you to lose your home and your things and your community, but also has deep effects on the way you see yourself and your mental health. Brown you also got a couple of landlords to talk to you and let you follow them around. I thought that was crucial. I thought if i really wanted to understand how housing is causing poverty in america i needed to get landlords perspectives. I didnt understand why they evicted me but not you, needed to understand what makes them tick. But there is a Business Model at the bottom of the market and one thing that i found that surprised me was that landlords that operating in very poor neighborhoods can make a decent profit. An extreme profit in some cases. Brown i mean, it can be beneficial to them to evict somebody, bring somebody else in, not put much into the actual rental property. That right. And for some landlords, some eviction is costly and does take some money, but for others, thats part of the Business Model, you know . And the short answer to that is its more efficient to evict a family than to keep up payments or to keep up maintenance on your property. And you can do that because families are so strapped theyre giving so much of their income to rent, that if they call a building inspector or report a housing problem, then they can evict that family. Not that retaliatory evictions are legal, but because at any time you can evict a family who are behind. But you also write about your own experience of doing this. Embedding yourself. Trying to see how they live, almost trying to live as they live. I mean, did you feel satisfied in the end with what you were able to do . Because you also write in the afterword about how heartbreaking a lot of this was to see and the even personal toll it took on you. Yeah. I mean, i learned a lot. I learned so much and i think i learned not only about pain and denial about basic human needs, but i also learned about humor and strength and courage in the face of massive adversity. And it did have an effect on my life, personally, but i think the stories that i write about also buoyed me, you know . And left me with a deep sense of thankfulness. And just an impression that the people i met in milwaukee refused to be reduced to their hardships. Theyre so much more than that. But, the extent of poverties in our cities today is reducing people born for better things. Brown let me ask you finally about what should be done. You do at the end advocate for few things including creating a kind of universal housing voucher right . For people under a certain income. What is the single most important thing youd like to see happen . I think we as a nation need to figure out do we believe that housing is a right in this country . And i think we should answer yes because without stable, decent housing, Everything Else falls apart. And i think taking this program thats already working, housing vouchers so instead of paying 88 of your income to rent, arlene would only pay 30 of her income and she can take that voucher anywhere she wants as long as her housing wasnt too expensive or too shoddy. That would fundamentally change the face of poverty in america today. We can make evictions rare again and decrease family homelessness, but only if we as a country kind of accept as a country that housing is central to Human Flourishing and economic mobility. Brown all right. The book is evicted poverty and profit in the american city. Matthew desmond, thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Ifill and now for our newshour shares, something that caught our eye that we thought might be of interest to you too. Forget the wine and cheese you might normally get at an art gallery, if youd like to see one of the newest exhibits in florida, youre going to need a wet suit. Visitors taking the plunge at the Florida Keys National marine sanctuary can now view an underwater gallery mounted on the worlds secondlargest artificial reef. Scuba divers over the weekend hung 12 photo illustrations on the u. S. N. S. Vandenberg, a world war twoera ship intentionally sunk off key west in 2009. 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