Transcripts For KQED Charlie Rose The Week 20170128

Rose well have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. Rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by the following and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications rose and so you began how . The other side of the story. Rose is it luck at all or is it Something Else . 600 options. Rose whats the object lesson here. There are some opportunities. Rose tell me the significance of the moment. Rose this was the week President Trump began work with a flurry of executive orders on health care, immigration, and building a border wall. Crowds in the hundreds of thousands joined Womens Marchs across the nation and around the world. And in football, the Atlanta Falcons and new England Patriots both won their conference championships to advance to the super bowl. Here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. Mary electoral mooreidize at 80. Associate producer, can you believe that . Mary tyler moore. applause . A deadly bomb exploding in the somali capital. Al shabaab is claiming responsibility. An active secret Service Agent says she wont take a bullet for President Trump. Rose killer storms sweept south. Georgias governor declared a state of emergency in seven counties. Rose the new press secretary meets the press. Sean spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. Alternative facts are not facts. Theyre falsehoods. Rose a new controversy over voter fraud. If three to five Million People voted illegally, that is a scandal of astronomical proportions. I think the president has believed that fair while, and i think well see where we go from here. Say and uh im ever woman rose the womens march drew massive crowds in every major city. For all the plans over the last 25 years has rocked this place, this ones for you, baby i want to rock n roll all night the flea flicker. Brady to the end zone, and its a touchdown. The patriots have a date with atlanta. All the way to the great waffle china today, mr. Trump expected to sign off on orders to begin going blg that wall. The meeting that President Trump and the president of mexico were supposed to have next week, thats no longer on the books. The paperwork was filed for one of the president s first acts in office, declaring his Inauguration Day as the National Dave patriotic devotion. That was his second choice. The First Air Force trumpful day of frump tastic trumpiness, which i love by the way. All the way to the great wall of china rose today marks week one of the trump presidency. The president acted quickly on many of his Campaign Promises through a series of executive actions, and he promised to announce his pick for the Supreme Court this coming thursday. Here with me with more on that is mike alep. He is the cofounder of the new Media Company axuous, and the editor of the axuous a. M. Newsletter. Mike, thank you for joining us. Charlie, thanks for having me at this amazing, crazy, even surreal week. Rose what made it that . Well, charlie, we know so much about this president that we didnt know a week before. So, first of all, were seeing that theyre doing beag so aggressive, energetic. This flood the zone approach you and i have talked about before, theyre bringing it to governing in ray way i think even a lot of their supporters didnt expect. Just a few minutes ago we had him announcing a great rebuilding of the military. Weve had extreme vetting. Weve had the mexican border. Weve had torture conversation. Some of the most contentious, biggest issues on the president s plate, all coming up in week one. Rose what are the Power Centers in the white house . Well, charlie, this is very much by design, but there are many more Power Centers in this white house than is typical. Usually you have a strong chief of staff. Thats the sun that the other planets revolve around. There are a bunch of suns here, or a bunch of planets. You have reince priebus, who is, on paper, the chief of staff, and is in charge. But theres a lot of other planets around him that have their own very strong gravitational pull, have their own access to the president. Charlie, the person they call the architect, steve bannon, the president s chief strategist, whose proving to have even more juice than we realized. In axuous a. M. , my newsletter, this morning, we talked about the bannon coup, because he has shown so much more juice than people expected, including him and the head of policy, steve miller. They had the largest hand in that very aggressive, even dark inaugural address. Theyve had a big hand in a lot of these executive orders. Theyre encouraging President Trump to take it to the press. Just today we had the president telling telling cbn that the press was the opposition party. And finally, we had that astonishing interview that steve bannon gave to the new york times, where he used that phrase about the press, and said that the press had been humiliated, showing that all throughout this west wing, theres a real antipathy to the press thats not just for show but is really how they feel. Rose so whats on the agenda for next week, week two . Well, charlie, i know its very much on your mind that tomorrow, saturday, the president s going to have his first phone conversation with president putin of russia. But everything next week resolves around thursday. Weve been told, as you said at the top, thats when the Supreme Court pick comes. And, charlie, this touches off the biggest fight that weve seen since election day. So this is a fight thats going to go on for many weeks. Im told that the administrations goal is to get the new Supreme Court justice confirmed by april 1. Thats right before another congressional recess, get the hearing done by the end of february, so this is going to be a vicious fight, and were going to see all the actors that have maybe been quiet sense election day, all coming out. Rose President Trump visited the headquarters of the Central Intelligence agency to mend some fences this week. It happened just days after the president attacked the Intelligence Community over its handling of allegations that russia influenced the election. Still unanswer read questions about how the president will deal with russia in the future. Robert gates say former secretary of defense and director of the c. I. A. One of the things that affects moral the most at c. I. A. Is the sense of feeling that what they do is valued and used. So moral Going Forward is to depend, i think, in terms of whether they feel like the president appreciates what they do and whether hes using what they do. And that remains to be seen. Rose and then theres russia. You and i have talked about it before. I sent president and you have a different view of putin upon. I mean, theres a real question about what is the relationship between putin and the president . I am concerned about the president s apparent unwillingness to criticize the russians. Now, i think hes acknowledged when people hesitant to criticize. Hes acknowledged that the russians were behind the hacking, but in terms of russias aggressiveness, its meddling, its interventionism, its general bullying and thuggery. Rose but you must have talked to him about this. I mean, because, youre a russian expert. Well i told him what does he say when somebody with your credibility says to him, you got it wrong about russia . I told him the same thing i said at the hearing introducing Rex Tillerson for his nomination hearing. I said, your administration is going to have to thread the need expel figure out how, on the one hand, to push back against putins aggressiveness and meddling and interventionism, and at the same time, stop a continuing downward spiral in the u. S. Russian relationship that is potentially quite dangerous, but theyve got to do both sides of it. Theyve got to thread the needle. Rose what does that mean thread the needle . You have to figure out a policy that does both. You cant just be accommodating to russia and look for deals with russia. You also have to be willing to push back against putin because he is he is a guy who he has the old line used about premiere khrushchev whats mine is mine, and whats yours is negotiable. And thats putins approach. And if you dont push back on this guy, he will take advantage. So they have to feggure out how to do both of thoz things. Its a problem. Rose do you believe he sees a relationship with russia as a leverage against china, some kind of y dont know, but i think i think that repositioning, if you do it thoughtfully and carefully, there are some opportunities to use these relationships as leverage. And where woo might have a better relationship you know, one of the things that president nixon and Henry Kissinger did so effectively was the positioned the u. S. So we had a better relationship with russia and with china than they did with each other, which gave us leverage. If we could figure out a way to replicate that, that would be to our advantage. Rose the conservative commentator and radio host hugh hewitt was a reluctant supporter of donald trump. He eventually campaigned for him. Now that the election is over, hewitt sees an opportunity to use trumps victory. He would use it to enshrine a republican majority in washington for decades to come. His book is called the fourth way the conservative playbook for a lasting g. O. P. Majority. After he was nominated i supported him, happy to do so. When the judge curiel incident happened, i announced that he was flying the party into the mountain and if he kept it up it would be like stage four cancer. He stopped. So i got back on the trump train. Campaigned for him throughout the summer. Llagher and some of mywith mike colleaguecolleagues from salem,r donald trump, in some swing states like pennsylvania and florida. And after access hollywood tweeted, i wish you would get out of the race i thought more was coming and worse. He didnt get out of the race. I voted for him because of the Supreme Court and by and large i believe, as i discussed in the book, he can transform with paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, and Vice President pence, the country and create a semilast ago nothing is forever but a good, enduring republican majority. Rose and what are the conditions to do that . What are the necessary, essential ingredients of that . And what could prevent it from happening. Scandal could prevent it from happening. The fifth chapter is about impeachment which is a reality with this president. Rose its a word already mentioned. And david brooks said within a year, and i i dont believe that. If the republicans lose theinous 2018, unlikely, but not impossible, they would bring impeachment under the emoluments clause. On the other hand, he had a very good start. I like the pipeline executive order, if he nominates judge gorshut, i will be very happy. Rose his nixon to china moment is is to allow the people here without illegal permission to stairk not to become citizens, but to no one could criticize him as soft on immigration, just like only nixon could go and sit with mao. Donald trump can do whatever he wants on immigration, and no one will believe its amnesty. So hes invulnerable. Do you think hes considering that. I do. And i think sean spicer telegraphed that in his press conference when he said our priority is not to go after the dacca kids. Our priorities are going after people who have broken the law in the United States and represent a threat. That is actually channeling the blueprint for reform that reince priebus, the assaulted autopsy that was done four years ago, a regularization is exactly what the republicans called for. And i believe donald trump will embrace that because it makes sense. He knows the people who work in the trading. We had in to see him. Theyre largely latino in places like california and arizona. The drywallers are almost 100 latino americans. He understands getting reelected, and he understands building. Im an optimist on that. Rose so what worries you about trump . He can wear us out. Most president s retreat from the headlines in periods. Richard nixon for a long pfd. Ronald reagan gave us one story for a day. Prum flooded the zone with a temperament that was calm, condescending at times, but nonetheless calm. If we are put on a roller coaster of daily diet of controversy, the country isnt built for that. Politics is not supposed to be that important. Religion, community and do you at some point wear out your welcome. Yes, 2018 is very close at hand. He has to deliver on his promises, which hes begun, and he has to make people feel less threatened. Rose the rise of populism around the globe is also fueling a new wave of the antisemitism. Ber narnd henry levi, examines that in his new book, the genius of judaism. There was a januaryeration of hate against israel, a stigmatization of israel, which has no other explanation than the redressing of the old hate against the jews. This is a new form of antisemitism, and the world has not yet found all the replies, all the appropriate replies against this new hate. This is one of the reasons why i wrote this book. This book is what . It is partly an effort to give ammunition, to give weapon weapd ammunition, moral ammunition, to those who want to fight this new trend, this new black wave of new antisemitism. Rose so this is you handing them verbal, passionate rose againsts. Antisemitism. Against antisemitism, and also, what does antisemitism does . It delegitimizes israel on the ground of liberal values. I am a liberal. And i believe that as liberals, we should not condemn but praise israel on the very ground of their values. Israel has, by many asperktz lessons to give to a lot of liberals in the world, in terms of democracy, in terms of multiethnicity, in terms of the way of dealing with minorities, in terms of how to fight terrorism, how to behave in the state of war or emergency, on all these topics, israel behaves well in terms of liberal so heres my point. Thats about the state of israel. But this book is called the genius of judaism. Not the genius of israel. Absolutely. Rose this is about your faith. Absolutely. Israel is the first part of the book and the secretary part of the book is devoted to my faith, yes, my creed. It is the faithave nonbeliever, because one of the things which i try to explain is that you can be a jew without believing. Rose not believing in . In god or without believing in the sky. I think that the one of the aspects of the teach, the greatest master of judaism is what is required from a jew is less to believe than to study. So for me, the genius of judaism is that, the study, and the sense of the other. Rose warren buffet has found both fame and fortune as one of americas most successful investors. How he got there is the subject of a new documentary premiering on hbo monday night called becoming warren buffet. I went into this to try to figure out who the who the little boy was who became the man and the megabillionaire. And most of the films we work on ceend of begin there, begin in childhood, to try to find clothes that tell you something about how they became who they became. And my feeling that, you know, warrens famous for for keeping emotion out of everything. But hes a hugely emotional guy. And hes emotional just beneath the surface. And youve experienced it. Ive watched you go ask him questions that were hard for him to answer, and weve experienced the same kind of pushback from him. But he was he was willing to open up to a large degree, and he was willing to have his children open up even more. What i saw first and foremost day in and day out was consistency. Every day, wed hear the garage door close in the house. And then like clockwork, my dad would come in the door, im home. And wed all eat dinner together, which i think surprises a lot of people. Rose whats his genius . I think his genius is a mind that can work so fast and retain so much and mix it with a logic and a and a common sense that just doesnt usually get mixed together. So hes you know, his son howie says hes a computer, and the hard drive never fills up. But hes more than that. Hes a hes a very sensitive man who who then interprets that data in a way that most people cant. Rose there is also this, the sense of his judgment. Yeah. Rose a remarkable sense of being able to and to know what he knows and what he doesnt know. Yeah. He calls it his circle of competence. And he he he he shows a graphic of himself standing at a baseball plate, and theres a ted williams had a box where if the pitch came through a specific spot on that box, he would know whether he would hit a home run or hit a pop. Warren knows exactly who is coming across that plate, and he makes the analogy that he doesnt have to swing. There are no strikes called, so he can stand there all day. And he does. He waits month after morning year after year, and when hes ready to swing at something he swings. So he hits the ball. Rose the early modernist apparent picabe died in953. Did spite his contributions to the cubist movement, he struggled as an artist for most of his career. New yorks museum of modern art doesnt dnt, choir one of his paints until a year after his death. Now the museum is mountings its largest exhibition of his work. Curatorred by anne lumdone, and photographer aaron clar produced our report. Francis picape, is an artist who was born in paris in 1879. His mother was french. His father was spanish. He is one of the great unknowns of the artists active in paris at the beginning of the last century. This exhibition charts picapes full career. It begins with works made in 1905 or 1906 that look like paintings by monet or alfred sicily. So picabbia article on is practicing as an appropriation artist. He didnt take his canvasses outboards. He worked from postcard mechanical reproduction, and that is something that went on to have such an impact in the 20th century. And we wanted to introduce him as at the forefront of that sort of approach. We also wanted to highlight picabbias engagement with film making, with theater design with music. So we have one gal reerk also, thats devoted to the stage sets and designs and the movie that he made for the ballet called pelash in 1924. This is a project i think that ive been working on for about five years. And so what goes into it . Lots of looking. Lots of traveling. Lots of negotiating. And i think the ambition for this show is to set out for our new york audience that collide scopic career in full and to give picabias strong personality the longoverdue recognition that we believe it richly deserves. Rose here is a look at the week ahead. Sunday is the david National Football leagues annual pro bowl game in orlando. Monday is the 33rd National Cowboy poetry gathering in elico, nevada. Tuesday is the final day to enroll for health care for 2017 on the government exchanges. Wednesday is the opening of the Santa Barbara International Film festival. Thursday is the day of the National Prayer breakfast in washington. Friday is the day switzerland meets the United States in the first round of play in the 2017 davis cup. Saturday is the day that Directors Guild awards are announced in beverly hills, california. And here is whats new for your weekend. Matthew mcconaughey, edgar mar teens, and Bryce Dallas Howard are in theaters in the mining thriller gold. Were talking over 30 billion. Yeah, baby rose 21 pilots have concert dates in pittsburgh and chicago. And the 23rd annual Screen Actors Guild awards are broadcast live on tnt, and tbs sunday night. Remember to watch the Screen Actors Guild awards. Theyll be simulcast live sunday, january 29, on tnt and tbs. Rose thats charlie rose the week for this week. We do not want to leave you tonight without acknowledging the passing of actress Mary Tyler Moore. She was 80. In the 1970s, she created the character of Mary Richards on the Mary Tyler Moore show she inhabited the role of an unmarried career woman with humor and poignancy. She became a role model for a generation of women entering the workplace. Here is Mary Tyler Moore at the table. I was eager to get out on my own and prove myself worthy of somebodys attention. Rose and when did you do that . I dont think i have yet. And you know, ive got to the point where i dont think its important anymore. I remember a quote from dorothy park who are said, wharg people think of me is none of my business. And as long as i am respectful and mindful of other peoples feelings, i think i can take that as my own motto. Rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by brought to you in part by viewers like you, and you, and you, and you. Ha, ha thanks so much youre very kind. Hey what . Come over here, the cat in the hat is about to appear. Hes whizzing over to whisk you away on a fabulous journey today. Hes coming and now hes arrived in the thingamajigger the thing that he drives hes a cat and hes oodles of fun with his hairy helpers thing two and thing one instrumental instrumental