Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications rose and, so, you began how . From a natural place. Rose is it luck at all or Something Else . All of it is so personal. Rose whats the object lesson here . It gives everybody an opportunity. Rose tell me the significance of the moment. This was the week donald trump shook up his Campaign Staff for the second time this summer. A new round of airstrikes hit the syrian city of aleppo, and in rio gymnast simone biles won a fourth gold medal to become a superstar olympic champion. Here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. John mcclockline dies at 89. Russian bombers fly missions from iran. They reject a suggestion by the United States that this violates a u. N. Resolution. A curfew has been imposed in milwaukee following two nights of violent protests. The death toll is rising in southern louisiana. The deadly flood waters submerged entire communities and the governor says the disaster is not over. The Trump Campaign makes changes. He appointed Stephen Bannon of Breitbart News as his new c. E. O. His new Campaign Manager kelly conway. Donald trump calls for cold war style immigration tests. The time so far do you for developing a new screening test. Simone biles continues to be the sweetheart to have the game, picked up her fourth gold medal in a single olympiad. Two olympic swimmers blocked from leaving rio. The swimmers along with champion ryan lochte rose Larry Wilmore. Our show going off air has to only mean one thing, racism is solved. Rose you say bulk makes history. This gives the jamaicans hope in winter games because instead of a bobsled team they should have four dudes ride. We are the champions the United States sweep in 100meter hurdles. Hillarys been campaigning with joe biden. The down side is where joe biden goes to his hugs. Oh, that is so awkward. Another one bites the dust hotel is reduced to rubble. Goodbye. Rose we begin this evening with the president ial election. Republican nominee donald trump continues his attempt to stabilize his campaign this time with a change in leadership. Wednesday he named pollster Kelly Ann Conway as as his new Campaign Manager and Stephen Bannon at new chief executive. Bannon took leave from his role at Breitbart News. Here in new york michael barbaro, covers the election from the New York Times and hosts the runup, a podcast. Bob costa, tell me about the change. How and why did it come about and what difference will it make . A couple of months ago, corey lune dow ski, trumps Campaign Manager was fired and trump moved under Paul Manafort who came on earlier in the sprifnlgt trump has grown agitated in recent weeks. It came to a head over the weekend. He decided to move in a different direction, to follow Steve Bannons informal advice to let trump be trump, more extemporaneous, and made the shift having Kelly Ann Conway, the pollster his friend be Campaign Manager, and bannon to be the chief executive. Rose so how will trump be different . What well see from trump is more rallies according to people who have spoken to bannon. Much more of trump being aggressive and going after the clintons. Bannon is behind the clinton cash project. Its a pugilistic trump, a trump of the Republican Base more of the republican establishment and listening to party leaders. Rose sound like a winning formula to you, michael . There is only one thing donald trump needs to do to get out of the demographic death spiral and thats broaden an appeal beyond the one area of the country he found his message most resonating in and that is generally White High School graduates, and thats the trump base. And if he just sticks with that he,s going to lose. I mean, every poll shows it. It just doesnt it does not seem possible to ride that to the white house. I dont think bannon is the guy to take him from the current trajectory of the campaign from what i can tell. Maybe hell surprise us. Rose poll after poll showed us the message of change is a winning message in american politics this year, correct. Absolutely. And Hillary Clinton is by no means a credible candidate of change, not having been in government for as long as she has. One way to think about how they might pull this off is for these two new advisors to present donald trump in a more classic light of the guy who represents change against the status quo Hillary Clinton. But if he insists on the kind of often very careless rhetoric that is so provocative and problematic, its really hard for people to focus on the change. They folks on the gasps. Rose we now turn to news overseas. This young boy may be the new face of the civil war in syria. His photo swept the internet wednesday night after being pulled from the rubble of an airstrike in aleppo and his pain symbolizes the horror of civil war which has raged on for more than five years and may receive a harsh judgment from history from many countries. Mike morell is a former acting director and Deputy Director of the c. I. A. A Syrian Civil War needs to end, okay. In my view, there is not a military solution to that, and the reason there is not a military solution to that is because a military solution would end up with the destruction of the syrian military, the Syrian Security services, Syrian Intelligence services, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, syrian police. If you destroy all those in an attempt to end the civil war, you are left with a complete vacuum, security vacuum, stability vacuum. You end up with libya. Rose or iraq. Or iraq. What i would see as valuable is limited, very, very, very limited u. S. Airstrikes against those assets that are extremely important to assad personally. So in the middle of the night, you destroy one of his offices. You dont kill anybody, right. Zero collateral. You do this with zero collateral. Same rules of engagement we use against terrorists. Rose often thats hard to do. Hard to do but you go in with that goal, right. Thats whats important. You go into it with that goal and take it seriously when youre doing your targeting. You take out his president ial aircraft, his president ial helicopters in the middle of the night, right, just to send him a message and to get his attention that maybe your days are numbered here, just to put pressure on him to think about maybe i need to think about a way out of this. Rose this is a the Washington Post editorial about syria. The burden of responsibility for the crimes of the Syrian Government and its russian ally must therefore be shared by those including the United States who allowed them to continue. A point that i have made with the president of the United States about, you know, the judgment of history. Has this administration failed to do enough at several critical junctures to have perhaps made this war come to an end . So weve talked around this table a number of times about rose this is a closure about what has been done, what has to be done. Right. Rose one Hillary Clinton supports. So i do think weve missed some opportunities. Now, i cannot guarantee you, had we provided significant assistance to the moderate opposition in the fall of 2012 when assad was a little shaky that it would have resulted in his h fall because maybe the iranians would have just upped the ante, right. Rose right. So i couldnt guarantee that, but we didnt try. The president s decision not to cross the red line you know, he said if the syrians use chemical weapons, that will be a red line, his decision not to follow through on that. It was very interesting that assad moved very quickly to give up his chemical weapons. Why . Because he knew that if the United States acted if the United States took a number of airstrikes against his military facilities where there were chemical weapons, that it would put his rule at risk. Thats why he was willing to get rid of his chemical weapons because he was frightened about what such an airstrike would do to him politically. So i think we missed another opportunity there. Rose Brian Stephenson runs the equal justice initiative. Over the years the nprofit saved 125 death row prisoners from execution. It also won a Landmark Supreme Court ruling that sentencing minors to life without parole is unconstitutional. Now his organization plans to open the first memorial honoring the thousands of victims of lynching in the United States. I dont think anybody can argue that we committed ourselves to truth telling about the legacy of slavery. Just didnt happen. We did the opposite. We didnt hold the people who were accountable for slavery responsible. We didnt actually insist on recovery and repair for emancipated people. We abandoned those who were enslaved. We allowed them to sink back into this condition of second slavery. We told rated convict leasing in this horrific area. One to have the legacies we havent owned up to is the trauma it created. As i said, the lynchings werent directed at the individuals, they were directed at the entire black community. Rose tell me about the museum. Sure. Rose and what you believe it can begin to do. The museum will be an 11,000 square foot area, its situated 100 meters from one of the most prominent slave auction sites in the american south. Its situated 100 meters from the Alabama River where a dock and rail station transported thousands, tens of thousands of enslaistled people. It will introduce people to the hardships of slavery. There will be warehouses. You will hear slave voices through holographics. Well talk about African People being kidnapped and the horrors of bondage. Well have Virtual Reality films. Rose you were there. Put you right there on the train when enslaved people were being forced from the upper south to the lower south with all of that anxiety about whether theyd be able to keep their children or their children would be taken away from them and well move from that slavery experience into the era of terrorism and well try to get people to understand. Rose and terrorism is the lynching. Yes, and what we want people to understand is lynching wasnt mob justice, it wasnt mob violence. These lynchings took place in communities where there was a functioning criminal justice system, but black people werent deemed good enough to be a defendant. People werent lynched for accusations of crimes. Rose why montgomery . Montgomery was the cradle of the confederacy. It was where, in many ways, resistance to ending slavery, it was a place where terror was widespread. It was the birth place to have the civil rights movement. I think montgomery is a Perfect Place for this because if anything weve got to tell these stories in the spaces where theyve happened and do it in places where theres going to be some resistance. Rose was that any resistance to this idea in montgomery, alabama . Were just kind of getting public about it. So were in the early days of that. Im sure there will absolutely be some resistance, but those columbus are all representative of thousands of people who were lynched. Rose how many columns . 800 columns for every county in america where lynchings took place and the the names of victims will be engraved on each column. You will go into this place and the floor will sink and the columns will rise and you will stand underneath these suspended items. Rose Natalie Portman is making her directorial debut in a tale of love and darkness. She wrote and stars in the film. Its an adaptation of amos ozs bestselling memoir about the founding of israel as seen through the eyes of his family. When i read the book, it was when it first came out in translation almost ten years ago, and it was so moving to me immediately, and i saw the film in front of my eyes as i was reading, which i think is testament to ozs writing, of course. But immediately i wanted to direct it and i didnt really think of playing the part because i was 26 or something, and it took me so long to get it together to be able to make the film that i actually aged into being able to play the role. Rose but even then you really just wanted to direct. Yes. Rose and when you went to get the money, people say youre crazy, you know. Your first film, in hebrew, and you have no known actors, how do you expect us to give you money for this. So that also helped persuade me to be in it. Rose what was it about this . Well, i think the language is so beautiful in the book, an it really deals with this period of time that ive heard about so much in my own family. I was born in israel. My grandparents on my fathers side moved to what was then british palestine from Eastern Europe as refugees. So, you know, when you imagine something your whole life, that sort of creates a visual repertory for what you n create as a director. Rose amos oz was excited about the film being made . Well, he was incredibly generous. I think it was always hard for him because, you know, he said from the beginning, you know, this is my story, its me, its my name, its me as a child, its my mother, its my writing, of course, my book, all of it is so personal, so just beware, im going to be, you know, emotional with this. But hes been incredibly supportive and loving with the film and he said to me from the beginning, make it your own. The book exists, so dont try and film the book. Rose she lived in a fantasy world, in part, didnt she . In part. I think he describes it as slavic me melancholy and there s the literature that she grew up in, the equation of sadness with beauty makes living with disappointed dreams that much more difficult, and its yeah, its beautiful to see sort of his evolution as a writer in this gaffe she leaves for him. Rose the interesting thing, too, your story of israel is the story of dreams and at the same time reality. Right. Absolutely, that very much her experience as an immigrant and her experience as a mother and as a wife of having these expectations that are unfulfilled by the new country, by the husband, by her position in society as a woman. Rose so she was an early feminist . I mean, i dont know if she would define herself as that, but for sure i think there was frustration. Rose the nightly show with Larry Wilmore premiered in january 2015. It replaced the colbert report in comedy centrals latenight lineup. This week the channel announced it was canceling the show. I spoke with Larry Wilmore shortly after the announcement. The original idea was to just be a talk show with all panel. That was the original idea. But it proved a little too like there wasnt a chance for me to weigh in. Rose yeah. And rerealized early on that we needed that opening segment where people could hear from me on what was going on. This is our final week to have the charli nightlyshow. We felt without that there is no mark on the day if hes juste a ring leading. Once we figured that out, it reduced the amount of time he could talk which is problematic in a halfhour show. When the comedy grew and the talk diminished, it became tough to tackle that in. The beginning we had four different guests. Imagine having that every night. My head was exploding. So we reduced that to 3 and had two be our regulars and one an outside guest. That proved to be more serviceable, but the show was always kind of a compromise, you know. But i felt we found a way to operate with a lot of fun and levity and the seriousness it deserves within that compromise, i guess you could say. Thats kind of the evolution of the show. Rose you were given an opportunity to do something you wanted to do. Yes. Rose start from scratch and create a show. Thats always a rare opportunity in television. I have been very lucky i have been able to do that a few times. And this show was so exciting. From the beginning jon stewart pitched me an idea that he felt there were a lot of voices not heard on television, not represented, and he thought there should be a show where that could happen, a round table type show, and he said i want you to be the ring leader. I s. A. T. What . this cant be happening. Rose you didnt think when he first said it . No, no, no. When he first said it, you know youre in a conversation about it so it becomes surreal when theyre talking about it. But at the time, charlie, i was 52. I was at my breaking bad age where i should be making meth somewhere, in a winnebago and trying to get away from the law. Thats what i should have been doing. Rose trevor is what, 30 . Trevor is, like, 15. I dont even think hes 30. I dont even think he can drink yet, though the drinking laws in south africa are probably a lot more different. Rose 52, you were given an opportunity. Correct, a rare opportunity. I took it with the humility that comes with all that knowing how tough it is to do that and then following i mean, the beloved stephen colbert, not just the successful but the beloved stephen, you know. Rose yes. Stephen is a friend of mine, and knowing that and taking all that on, and then jon, you know, wants the show to be the minority report. Were tackling race, gender and class. Thanks, john, okay, lets do that, you know. Rose subject of great comedy. Yes. But, you know, knowing jon, on the serious side, we had done that before on the daily show and i was very honored he would choose me to tackle those type of tough subjects, and they really are tough. I really enjoyed trying to find the humanity in it and then get the humor out that way and those types of things. So it was really so much fun for the amount of time we did it. Very challenging, i have to say, but a lot of fun. Rose Victoria Legrand and alex scally are the duo known as beach house. After 12 years together, they have become one of indy rocks most consistent bands. The group isolatest album is thank your lucky stars. When we first met on the porch of your family home in baltimore, i handed him a c. D. Of music, and music was already just in play between us and, so, the second time we got together, with we were playing in the basement of my house, and it just continued from there. So the music was this i dont know how you call it, but fate or whatever. I have to at the the heart it was at the heart of the genesis of our friendship, so its always been there. Rose but did you have the same instincts, the same sense of what music could be . I think its always been just very, very natural. There is never been even a misstep in it, its been so natural. The instant, the music was the best friend. Rose have you sought fame like so many musicians seek fame or no . Think that weve gotten lucky. Weve also worked very hard, and i think that if you love something, thats whats going to take you someplace. We sought to have our music heard, so as much as that brings fame, but i think the other things, like social media and just having ourselves be known for anything besides music, weve tried not to have that. Rose there is a balance between your own artistic integrity and commercial success. Absolutely. Rose and you have a sense that you have found that together . I believe that we have through instinct, intuition and doing things from a natural place, weve tried our best. Rose . One sid about you, youre always looking to find out what the song wants. What does that mean . There is an emotional color that starts to come out of something, you know, and you dont know what that is right away but you get this feeling and the feeling can be blank but its a real thing, and some pieces of music dont have it and other pieces do. And, so, if there is something really real there, well just keep playing it, repeating it, pulling it and eventually if were really lucky the words start coming out and the words and the sound, they form they can form instantly. The goal is to never lose the feeling that made you get excited about the the idea in the first place. Thats what we mean about listening to the song. Anything you do as you write, any layer you put on, bridge you add, change of a drum beat, anytime it leaves that feeling then youve gone the wrong way. Rose here is a look at the week ahead. Sundays the day the first family returns to the white house from a vacation on marthas vineyard. Monday is the opening day of the Moscow International motor show. Tuesday is the day bao bao the panda celebrates her third birthday. Wednesday is Independence Day in ukraine. Thursday is the 100th anniversary to have the founding of the National Parks service. Friday is the finals of the annual air guitar World Championship in finland. Saturday is the opening day of the montreal world film festival. And here is whats new for your weekend. Jack houston and Morgan Freeman come to theaters in the remake of benhur. Come on, are we having fun now, brother . Stand and fight stand up now rose the annual philadelphia folk festival is underway in upper salford township, pennsylvania. And the closing tear moans for and the closing ceremonies for the rio olympics will be broadcast on nbc sunday night. Thats charlie rose the week this week. For all of us here, thank you so much for watching. Im charlie rose. Well see you next time. Rose welcome to the program. Tonight, amy schumer for the hour. This is the most personal thing ive ever been a part of. Its just literally what happened and how i felt about it, and there are still jokes in there, because even at the time i found the humor in it, but its yeah, its just completely raw. There is no facade. You know, its standup. Its still a little bit of a character, even though i feel like my standup is getting more and more personal, but this book, its me, and its all true. I think just being open to evolving and, so, what was funny to me and how i was doing standup ten years ago is very different than how it is now. Rose how so . Well, i was really doing a character when