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Mccreary, the producer of morgans latest film 5 flights up. Its about a couple married 40 years. My parents were married 50 years and i love to see that relationship. There are very few films that i see that delve into the latter part of relationships. We see a lot of fill ments about new love. This is the crossroads of a relationship thats been 40 years long and theyre deciding whether to keep going strong or settle back into life. Rose Morgan Freeman and Lori Mccreary for the hour, next. Rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by rose additional funding provided by and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Rose Morgan Freeman is here. He is an Academy Awardwinning actor. Hes starred in milldollar baby, shaw shank redemption and victors. Here is the trailer for 5 flights up. When ruth and i first moved to brooklyn, it was out of fashion but we liked it. It was good. It was all we could afford. Its cool now. Full of hipsters. But as much as its changing, im going to miss this place. I dont know how you and alex do it. When youre trying to sell the shades all have to be up. Light is money, remember that. This is a young peoples building, you know. The stairs. Hi, alex. Whats that . Cinnamon. Gives the place a homey feel. Smells like a who whore house. What does that smile smell like . This. Im writing a book about this. What is this . Ould you turn up the lights . Please dont do that sweetie. Sorry. Youre going to break it. Looking to buy . Have a dog . Eah. Shes not out here right now. What happened . Shes old. Youre older than her in dog years. Does your bedroom have bunk beds . All we need is a place for you to stay and an elevator. Could be better. Could be worse. Dont even bother. Im going to miss all this. Look at it. Why are they moving . Havent we built a good life in we can do whatever the hell we want. Why are you still staying with this old laidy. Good old lady. Answer. Two bedrooms, lots of space old world charm. Sounds great doesnt it . I think we should be able to get it cheap right . You think . Eah, why not . We were watching diane keaton. Shes like nobody i know. Nobody. Shes lovely. Shes just lovely. Yeah. And shes actually kind of into housing. You know, she has this sort of shes a person that buys a house, lives in it, fixes it up and sells it. And then has magazines like architectural digest come and photograph it. She knows a little bit about it, yeah. Rose shes into that kind of thing. But her personality, her sense of self deprication, everything makes her so intriguing. The first time i saw her, i was so floored by her. Shes so beautiful shes so good. So rose and so many interesting men have fallen in love with her. Easy to see. Rose yeah. Easy to see why. Rose when you selected this, knowing a you dont need to work b you love to work, c you have lots of options on radio, television, movies, why did you choose this . Partly because of her, perhaps . Partly because of a script, perhaps . Because of the script, primarily. But then i said to who lori or the producer whom we meet later. Yeah. Because when we were doing country girl, she came to the show one night and i said to her, as i am want to do with ladies i like a lot rose yes. Id love to work with you. She said oh, id love to do that. When this script came along, i said, diane keaton. Rose was your name attached to the script when you came along. Yeah. Rose you said diane keaton. Yeah. Rose she said yes. Rose i thought you would never call right . Tell me about alex and ruth in the film. Well, you know, as a young couple, probably in their 20s they fell in love. He was an artist and she was working her way through school modeling. Rose yeah. And they just hit it off and got married. She broke up with her family over it because it was not the time that interracial marriages were accepted. Now we come to a point in their life where her niece is saying, you guys need to get out of this walkup, you know. You can do better. Rose five flights up. And so this whole weekend is when it takes place. This whole weekend we decided well, if we move out of here where do we go . So we go looking. Rose and you end up at home. Rose at home. Yeah. Rose so when you think about how do you prepare for this kind of movie . Read the script thats all. Unless youre playing someone real rose someone historical. Yeah. Rose like mandela. Rose mandela. Yeah. All of the people that i know of who have played live persons Seymour Hoffman played truman capote, ray charles. Rose jamie fox. Jamie fox and anything meryl streep has done. Rose margaret thatcher. Margaret thatcher, julia child, it requires a lot of research. Rose but do you just look at text and say i bring 50 years of experience and when i see a text, it says something to me and that union of my own Life Experience and what i see in the text, lets just go to the races then . Not necessarily, i mean the Life Experience part because youre only going to play your age for the most part. Rose right. If youre really, really, really good, like Walter Brennan was, at playing older people then you can do that. But most of the time, youre going to get roles that fall within your age bracket. Now you may not get a role that is within your lifes experience. I did a movie called street smart laughter but its all on the page. So you dont really have to do much more than say the words you know, make them your own. Rose i mentioned shawshank. Is that high up on your list . Yeah. Well, its classified now as one of the greatest movies ever made, one of the ten best ever. Rose and did you think that at the time . No no i didnt laughter you dont ever think anything youre going to do will be that great. The script was fabulous. Rose a nice cast. Really interesting. Almost an ensemble cast. Yes, it was an ensemble cast. Even bob who played the warden. Rose yeah. But everybody, it was one of those times when everybody dives in head first to the role. Rose yeah. And then all of a sudden was there a moment when i mean did you goes know on the movie that this was really good . Were looking at really good performances, we have a good script, the narrative is here, theres even a different kind of chemistry between the performances . Or do you see it in the editing. I dont go to editing. Rose dont you at all . No i dont see dailies. Rose you give them your performance and they do what they want to with it . Yeah, because thats whats going to happen anyway. Rose when they get on the set. Yes. It was pretty much precisely like that. A few tense moments when we argue with the director. Its sometimes not a good mix of writerdirectors because they wrote all the lines, they played all the parts, and you have to tell them youre wrong. Rose do you tell them softly like that or however loud however loud it demands. laughter rose and this film for you . This film was just a work of pure pleasure because im just dancing with a lady who loves to dance. Rose see thats the great thing. What you do and i do as well. You get to hang out with some people, i mean, at a table on a set and occasionally meals and things like that that you really want to meet and admire and have something to say. Yeah. And diane is just, as we said before, theres nothing i dont think theres any other anywhere like her. Shes one of a kind kind, and i have been in love with her since the first time i saw her in the movies. Rose yeah burks you yeah, but you didnt tell her until i didnt tell her until we were intimate. laughter rose and was everything working with her what you imagined . And more. Rose whats more . You can imagine what its going to be like when you say okay, boy, i would really like to do charlie rose, i would like to sit down and have a conversation with that man. Rose okay. And in your imagination it wont ever come up to what it really is when once you get here. Rose its much better when you get here. Yeah, its much better when you get here because it flows your conversation flows. It just keeps flowing, you know, and you may ask a question, pose a question, but you commentary. Rose yeah, thats true. I dont really know what im going to ask. Which is perfect for me. Rose because you dont know what youre going to say. Exactly. I certainly dont want to say it twice. Rose i actually talked about this before, bill nye talked about this, he said the greatest thing about acting is even know you know the script and the line the skill of acting is to say it as if im sorry im going to just butt in there. Rose no, i want you to. The skill of acting is listening. Rose listening. No matter how well you know the script listening, i think, is primary. Rose listening to what comes right before you or you and i have a prepared script rose right. And youre talking to me from your lines, i dont want to look and see when youre finished. I want to hear what youve got to say, and then ill shape my answer. Sometimes you ask a question of me and my answer would be yes. Another time you will ask the very same question, and my answer will be well. Yeah. Rose those are different answers. Yeah. Yeah. Rose youve got to be able to hear those answers. Its not just i will say to people when they talk about the conversations, the dynamic of conversations, you not only have to listen, you have to hear. You have to hear what theyre saying, and sometimes you have to hear what theyre not saying, because what theyre not saying says more than what they are saying. Takes a good actor to do that. laughter i mean to say what theyre not saying or not say what theyre saying. Rose what bill said was you have to say those lines as if you have just thought them as they just occurred to you. Because whatever i say to you what youre going to respond to is what occurs to you, not what youve written down. Right. I think were on the exact same page. Rose yeah. If you dont listen, you cant answer as if its your answer. Rose yeah as if its the first time you ever thought of that idea. Yeah. Rose would you if you had the freedom now and perhaps you do to make any movie you wanted to make i do not. I wish i did. Rose you dont. But if you did mmhmm. Rose would it be something many people dont think would be box office or what . I dont know what it would be. Rose in other words, youre saying you dont have that, but lets assume you do. Lets put on the table what you would do. Lets test this idea. I would make at least a couple of war movies. Rose really . Yeah. Rose and the narrative is, the character is . The character is a tank battalion that actually fought in world war ii. The problem rose brad pitt just did Something Like that, as you know. I like brad. I like what he does. Rose i thought, so too. The characters were really interesting. But go ahead. So i would do that, and having seen brads movie i dont know how well it did at the box office. Rose i dont know. But it gives me hope that i can get this movie made. Rose so you have a script . No, thats the biggest problem, is if i have a script, ill sell it. I will sell a script. Im pretty sure. But getting a script is probably the most difficult. Rose the hottest commodity you need is a writer. Is a writer. Rose is writing sometimes so difficult its so hard to find a writer that can do justice to the idea . Yeah. Rose and for those who can write are in high demand . Very high demand. Rose heres the interesting thing to me it is that you see a lot of movies that a lot of writers have dipped their pen into, and i assume thats because they write different things. Somebody can write dialogue, somebody can bring yeah, a lot. Rose somebody can get turn and twist and plot, create surprise, all those things. Yeah, yeah. But coming up with just the basics rose you dont have any urgency in your life. No. Rose you dont. I mean, if you dont work for the next six months, its not going to drive you crazy. No. Rose because youve got a lot of things yeah. Rose so that means you dont have an urgency to do things. None whatsoever. The most urnlingsent thing i have to urgent thing you have to do is try to lower my golf score. Rose good luck on that. Yeah. Rose well, no, lets have a plan on that. You spend most of your time where . In mississippi. Yeah. Rose there are a lot of good courses down there. There are three i can play. Rose all right. Heres what i recommend you do. All right. Rose heres the plan. All right. Rose i want you to go home to mississippi and say to myself, i am going to have a ritual every day, and the goal is to improve my game and therefore, improve my score and if necessary i will fly in the best instructors there are who work best with me. Im going to make sure that i i think i already know who that is, and hes not far away. Rose and youve got to do two things youve got to hit a lot of balls mmhmm rose this is crazy for me to give this advice because ive thought a lot about this a lot. Roy mcilroy thinks about this. Rose how about jordan at the masters . 18 under Something Like that comes along once in a life time. He may never do that again in his life, but hes done that. Rose you cant write life. He comes to the final hole. He has a putt thats less than 4 feet, and if he hits that in, he breaks tigers record he has the lowest fourhole score ever in the u. S. Masters and he doesnt do it. He doesnt do it. Rose but he ends up tying tiger woods with the fabulous hes the second youngest person to ever win the masters and hes now looked at the future of golf, right there Jordan Spieth and others, rory, and what we might have if we get lucky every time we watch him, it will be like nicholas and palmer for several years there like tiger and mickelson. Wouldnt it be great . Oh, yeah it would be great. Arnie. Rose arnie was there which is great. My joy is to see the first time they bring gary player, Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palmer and get the game started by hitting off the first tee and watch these three men. And players in fabulous shape. I met player in china. Rose oh we were at the premiere, the opening of their golf course there, they had a pro am, flew us all in, and i was playing with justin rose and gary player. Rose who just won last week. Yes, bless hit heart. Very sweet man. Ive known him a number of years. Rose can jump on the floor and do 25 pushups without thinking. Yeah. He really believes in it. Hes not a huge guy. Rose he used to always wear black remember . Still does. On the golf course if hes playing hes the black knight. Rose how hard do you want to do this . Im interested in whether you have the discipline. I do not. laughter rose youd like for it to happen burks youre not driven, obsessed. Im just not driven enough. Rose really . Yeah. Ill go out to the golf course and put down 25 balls. Rose right. And chip from 50 yards 75 yards and 100 yards. If i have enough stamina to do the first 25 at 50 and the second 25 at 75 and the next 25 at 100, i get very, very discouraged because out of 25 balls, i may get three on the green. Rose oh, no. Confidence is important. Very, very, very, very important. I find when i know im going to hit the ball i hit the ball. Rose visualization and confidence. How about acting. Can you translate that to confidence, sort of knowing that you own this line . You own this part . You have to have that to take it to the level i think i was born with that. Rose confidence. Confidence on stage. Only one time do i remember going on stage knowing that i was in the wrong place. Rose what role was that . Fellow phonetic . Rose really . Whats the feeling . I have no business being here. I didnt get along with the director. Rose this role and my skill dont match. Not at all. As a matter of fact, the costume i had on, when i walked out on stage, a guy in the back of the theater it was open air in dallas, texas a guy in the back said sing purple haze i looked exactly like jimi hendrix, all i was missing was a guitar. Rose oh, wow. And that along with my beginning feeling of incompetence just settled it. Rose okay. But have you been a hard worker . Depends on what you mean by hard worker. Rose what i mean is steady. Rose let me put that another way. You obviously have superb talent and skills and you knew that early. Early. Rose so did brando, for example. And marlin was often criticized because they believed he didnt use those talents as often and didnt respect them as much. He and i have had a long conversation with him about this. But you continued to work and get good roles and all that but my sense is, you know, that there is youre not driven by anything now because you have all these other interests. Today, i am not. Rose so you take a role, you will give them a hell of a performance, you know, but youre not a guy who says, you know who you are you know what youve done you know where you stand you know you know 50 years ago, i was a desperate soul. Rose right. Desperate and driven. Rose i want to show them. What else am i going to do . How else am i going to manage life . You know, i dont want to do this, i dont want to do that. I would be embarrassed to do anything other than this. Rose so did you ever want to go back to any other shakespearean role . No. Rose that killed it for you . No, no. I did well, wait a minute. Hold on a second. No, i did the taming of the shrew years later with tracy allman and pulled it off. Rose where was that . Here in new york. Rose Public Theater . Yeah. Well, we were actually working in the del acourt. Rose oh yeah. Yeah, that was lovely. I had done Julius Caesar rose all those . Yes. Rose if someone comes to you and says yes but lear is the big one. Would you be willing to work hard and do because you could play that role, dont you think . If itit was in the cards for me years ago and i was trying to i was busy wrapping my mind around the idea of doing lear and my agent at the time said, we could do lear, you should, but lets wait a while longer. I said, fine, well do it. Rose so youre still waiting . Not going to do it. Rose because you dont have the energy . I dont have the energy. Rose its not what you want to do with your life . No. Rose you mentioned flying and sailing which you learned to do both well. Youre now into bee keeping. Yes. Rose you enjoy it. Yes, i do. Rose why is it that you enjoy bee keeping . I have a farm in mississippi its really not a farm, its just an estate. Rose thats where youre happiest . Thats where im happiest, happiest in the world. And i remember when the bees disappeared. In the spring bees should be you could hear them working. Then they were gone. There were no more bees. And, so, friends of mine started raising bees and said, do you want some . I said, absolutely, yes, i do. So they brought me about 25 hives. I bought them, actually, you know. And they come from i cant remember. Arkansas. Rose i dont know where bees come from. Now i have like 35 hives because they really if they say healthy and live through the winter rose what do you do, harvest the honey . Yeah, you harvest honey. You have to feed them. I got them in september and they have to be fed over the winter because they havent been able to go out and store up honey they have to have something they can use to make honey. So you feed them. Rose what do you feed them . You feed them sugar and water. Rose is that right . Yeah. Like two parts sugar to one part water, and you put it in a feeder and shove it into the hives. Rose when you last saw me did you have two earrings . I probably was pierced but i may not have been wearing two. Rose i think i dont know whether you were wearing one or not. Yeah. Rose do you like the look . Ah. Yes, i guess i must because rose as long as you do it. Yeah. But this started for me when i was a teenager going to seibert lancasters movies and stuff. All pirates have an ear in them. A lot of sailors have an earring. The reason for the earring is you have enough money to bury yourself in a foreign country because you could take the earring and sell it because it was gold. Yeah. I have a little bit of an excuse for my choice. laughter rose i remember when edpbradley of 60 minutes started wearing an earring and don said youre not going to do that and he said, yes, i am, you watch. It does something. I dont know what. Rose Harrison Ford wears one. Now . Rose yeah, he does. I havent seen him since the crash. I havent seen him. Rose youre fly brothers. Yeah. Rose thats a terrible thing to happen, isnt it . Not if you walk away. laughter rose were you surprised . Yeah, well, he lost an engine. Rose so he was it was superb flymanship for him to be able to do that or not . It really was. Rose i have been flying with him. Hes a fantastic pilot. If youve never lost an engine low to the ground, and he was just taking off, its a matter of keeping your head. So Indiana Jones in this is real. Hes a coolheaded dude. Rose are you still flying . No. Rose you cant . Hmum. I have planes but i have to have a pilot. Rose your hand. Thats the reason im not flying. Reporter you dont have full fingers dont move. Theyre just there. Rose does it affect your golf . Apparently not. laughter im no worse one handed than with two. Rose but you had to learn to paint in this movie. Yes yes. Rose did you seriously learn . Hmm . Rose did you seriously learn to paint . No, no, no, i just learned how to fake it. Rose i would think painting would be natural for you. No. Rose you dont have any color sense, no interest in it . I have no interest in it. I tried art and rose what art did you try . I tried drawing. Rose oh, really . Yeah, when i was a kid. Rose did you have skills no, i have no natural feel for it. When i was a little boy my mother would always get me things like doctor sets, paint sets, water color sets. Give me a cat whistle, let me go out in the street. laughter rose let me talk about through the wormhole, thats a labor of love for you. Mmhmm. Rose because you like science . No. Sorry. Rose why would i think that because you like science because youre the host of im a spokesman for rose you dont like science . I was never good. Rose arent you intrigued by the things science is doing today . I am very intrigued by what theyre doing. Rose but you dont want to be them. No. But i was always fascinated by the cosmos and physics, so theres more fas fascination there. You say, thats science yeah, but only one science. Rose heres a clip through the wormhole. Heres a look at episodes of one of the new seasons asks the questions, are we all biggots. If you think you see everyone as people, youre kidding yourself. We all have biases. And no matter how openminded we think we are stereotypes color our judgment of others. And can lead us badly astray. We live in a society affected by race, religion even our favorite sports teams. Going, going, gone we define ourselves we divide ourselves into rival tribes. The divide between us grows deeper with every passing year. When did hate become hard wired into our brain . We live in two different americas. Are we all born to discriminate against our fellow humans . Are we all all biggots . Rose its a perfect time of raising the question of whats going on in our country. Baltimore being an example today. Yes. Whats happening today, i think is the result of the technology. Its not just happening. Were just seeing it. Rose oh. The point is its been happening. Its been happening. Rose communities and police. Yeah, yeah. Rose seeing color. If you take the police out of the neighborhood if the police live in some enclave rose the suburbs. Yeah, and they come into the inner city as the law, they dont really know who they are lawing for they law to. Rose they forget the community theyre supposed to be serving. Precisely yeah. So thats one of the things that rose and perhaps dont understand the community. No, they cant possibly understand the community. They dont know the people that live in the community. They dont know them. They dont know anything about it. Its just, like okay, all you people are drug dealers and wellfare claimers and et cetera et cetera, so its hard to get a break in a situation like that. Rose so what do we do . Change the police . Well, yes, lets hire the police in that neighborhood, and you have to stay in that neighborhood. You have to know the people youre supposed to be serving and protecting. Thats what all the cars say to serve and protect, all of the cars, but that really isnt what happens at all in these communities. But now the police, particularly in shootings, you know theyre one defense is i fear for my safety. Rose hard to think you fear for your safety when someones running away from you and their back is to you. It doesnt hold up when someone sees it. Rose so whats changed is video. The cell phone everybody carries. Rose you mean Something Like this . That changed it all. So i think what will happen now is that there will be some reorganization in terms of policing. Theres no real part of the country i think that is in terms of that. But i give my state a lot of credit. Rose you give your state credit. Yes, in the police department. All the state troopers rose that you come in contact with . Mmhmm, are gentlemen. Rose is that because you are a man of dignity and integrity . I dont think so. I think thats the way theyre trained. I think thats rose this is todays headline from the wall street journal. Obama says baltimore riot part of slowrolling crisis. It has reached a crisis level hasnt it . Its a crisis because we see it. Rose yeah. So there. Yeah. Rose lets assume that seeing it brought the reality to our consciousness. Then seeing it is a good thing because, without having the reality in our consciousness, we will not deal to it. We would not feel so rose and you would say as strongly as anyone, its no excuse for them bombing and destroying your own neighborhood and burning down store fronts and stores that people part of the thing with mobs is how they get turned into that. Whats to be gained . You stop for one split second to think burning and looting doesnt help you in any way. Rose in baltimores case, the police chief is black, the mayors black, the mayors a woman. Yeah, big deal. Rose well she doesnt have control of the police. Rose she had to call in the national guard. Mmhmm. Rose did you see the picture of the mother forcibly going after her son saying yes. Rose shes a National Hero today. Shes a National Hero. Thats called parental outrage. Rose its called parenting. Well, now, the Supreme Court issued that edict that destroyed everything. Rose the riot and what she was doing, she was doing after her son and saying if youre going to get killed, im going to do it. Ill take you out. laughter rose yeah, yeah. She was on with my colleagues and i this morning on cbs this morning and what she is the power, i think, of someone she said, i lost it. I can understand it. Rose she said, i lost it because i didnt want to lose my son to the street. A single mother raising children four girls, one boy. Rose yeah. I applaud her along with everybody else but then i think that raising children is fraught with all kinds of stuff. When i grew up, Corporal Punishment was rose allowed. Yes. Rose i dont know whether its allowed or not now but it certainly can go too far as Adrian Peterson found out. Well yeah. That kid was too young but i was blood idea when i was a kid and say so my mom look what you did rose yeah shut up. Lets see one clip from the movie. Clip two. Lets look at that. This is where morgan and diane are on a train. Oh. Rose you like this clip . I like the whole movie. Rose role tape. Hes talking to us as we dont know anything, and we have more real money than all the young hot shots. I just want to know. What do you think of it . I like it. Really . Yeah. Put a spin on it. We will have our own place. L. We had a bunch of offers and the Real Estate Agent said theyre willing to consider any offer till 3 00 dont look at me like that. Its a beautiful apartment. Has a lot of light. Has light. An elevator and more room. Honey. Come on. Sounds like something you really want. Rose there you go. Whats the next movie . Alan arkin and were going to do a remake rose of george burns comedy going in style. Exactly. Rose how many episodes of the wormhole are you making . I think we do seven episodes, but dont quote me. Rose six episodes somebody said. When you talk to lori, you will know. Rose great to see you. And you,. Rose as always. Tell you what im going to do this summer. Im going to get on a plane and come to mississippi and were going to play golf. Really . Rose yes sir. August. You going to be there in august . No. Ill be here in august. Rose youre making a movie here . Working on going in style. Rose easy. Well go out there. You remember. Rose ill remember, my friend. Thank you. Thank you. Rose back in a moment. Stay with us. Rose Lori Mccreary is here, c. E. O. Of revelations entertainment, she foundenned that Production Company with morgueMorgan Freeman in 1996. Theyve produced invick us the and five flights up as well as madam secretary and through the wormhole, also the president of the Producers Guild of america and i am pleased to to have Lori Mccreary at the table for the first time. Welcome. Thank you. Rose so mr. Freeman says you guys are making a movie that, in fact, he and the two of you really could talk and he basically said what do you want to do and you said i want to produce movies and you were off to the races. Is that a fair appraisal . Pretty much a fair appraisal. He directed the very first film i produced, the very first film set, i was a coproducer, and i found myself on every side of creative discussion, financial phis cogs and he would be right at my side. Rose youve gone on the do interesting things and victors was lovely and wonderful. Thank you. Rose you fell in love with south africa in an earlier film. I did. The movie he was speaking of, we made it in 1992, an antiapartheid film act a black policeman in the south africa apartheid. Rose tell me about this film, 5 flights up. I love 5 flights up. Its about a couple thats been married 40 years. I have parents married 50 years and i love to see that relationship. There are very few films i see that delve into the latter part of relationships. We see a lot of films about the beginnings of new love, and what i love about this is its a time at the crossroads of a relationship thats been 40 years long and i feel theyre likely decided whether to keep going strong or whether theyre going to settle back into life. Rose and whose idea diane keaton, he told me the story of how much he wanted to work with her how they met and they worked together. Was it automatic when you thought of who should play well, morgan was going to play the husband. Rose alex. Alex. We had a list for ruth and Diane Keatons name jumped off. Rose yeah. There is such a great difference between their energies that plays out really well on screen. Shes vivacious and her hands never stop moving and morgan is very still. So i thought it was a really interesting pairing. Rose whats his role in the partnership. In revelations . Rose yes. Morgan is the rock, the touchstone. He looks at everything before we take it on as a project. It has to stir something in his soul before we take it on. Its very hard producing in this world today. Hes a great he reads scripts and really can tell us whats going on and whether or not we need to work on the script before we go on the screen. He just has a deep knowledge of whats going to work. Rose did you start your professional life as a Computer Science graduate of u. C. L. A. . I did. I am a programmer. I wrote code when i was in college and after college. Theyre very similar professions, oddly enough. For software, you have to think of something think of all the apps you use. Somebody has to say hmm, i think it should be easier for people to get a car, then you have to come up with what the audience but its the same way you make a film. Its an idea and you have to figure out if theres an audience and you have to get a large group of people together to build a software or a film and you have to make sure everyones marching in the same direction. Rose ill tell you an interesting story. A guy named ken leera whos had a lot of success in investments in terms of buzz feed and a strong entrepreneur and venture capitalist. He said among all the ideas he sees the ones that separate themselves out are the ones that have the technology and the Science Behind them. You know, a lot of people say this is a good idea, we ought to have this, but they dont have the best science and Technology Behind it. I think thats true, and it will be longer lasting if you have the right people behind it. Rose do you use that knowledge in your work today . I do. The last seven years our industry has gone from film centric to completely digital. Im a big believer that we need to digitize the entire production pipeline not only to be more efficient and be able to save money making our films but also to help start preventing piracy in the earlier stages to start saving our films. Rose do you and morgan produce films hes not involved in . We do. Rose and he acts in films that the Production Company is not involved in . Exactly. How we look at it is if theres a project fully finance and script is finished and just hiring morgan as actor theres no need for us to come on as producer. Rose whats amazing i did a 60 minutes piece on reese witherspoon, how smart their Production Company is and how smart they are about buying books. While was a book they bought, gone girl was a book they bought, and somebody told me a hugely popular book they won the bidding rights on. Thats fantastic. Rose are we seeing more women producing . The Producers Guild has 7,000 members and over half are women. Rose in the Producers Guild. On the producing team that belong to our guild. Rose as television gets older and becomes a more attractive place is that going to lead to programs we havent seen before . This movie could have been a television series. Sure. Rose are we going to see that more . Whats going to be the impact on television and film of a large generation like the postwar generation . The baby boomers . Im hoping well get back to great storytelling thats the preponderance of television programming. Rose because its not the preponderance of movies. No. But im looking forward to this next generation. I think theyll have Great Stories to tell. Rose has he told you about a dream to make a movie about a tank commander . Yes, the 71st tank battalion. Rose why cant we get this done . Its interesting. The process of making a film, morgan and i basically dont take something on in the Production Company unless were able to work on it seven years if it doesnt get made. Takes a long time to get a project made. Rose how long have you been working on this one . We have been talking about the 761st for about ten years. Rose i dont understand what the problem is. I mean, you have Morgan Freeman who can attracted other actors and work. Absolutely. Rose thats a magnet. What we need is a script. Invickties was invictus was something. We had been working on a Nelson Mandela story for a long time. It wasnt until we got the book that we found the end to tell the story of mandelia in two hours. We need to figure out 761st 761st what the heart and soul is and need a writer to crack that. Rose tell me what you do as president of the Producers Guild. Its a trade organization, were not a union. We do a lot of education. Were keen on making sure the Producers Team has health benefits. We have something in june in los angeles and new york in october where we cather thousands of producers together that help teach each other whats going on because theres no real school to go to to find out how you get films financed and how you get Television Made and work in this new media, so we come together as a community. Its a really great place to come to and belong as a producer. Rose heres a clip. We mentioned madam secretary and 5 flights up. Heres a clip of through the wormhole which asks the question are we here for a reason. What is the meaning of life . Dont you believe there is a reason for us being here . Join the community we are after all such sophisticated creatures, the result of billions of years of evolution. Surely life is about more than just our biological needs. More than the daily rat race. Is all the knowledge weve gained over the generations aiming toward some final goal . Are we attached to our own fate or is life just a series of random accidents . Is our existence just a fluke of nature . Or are we here for a reason . Space, time, life itself. The secrets of the cosmos lie through the wormhole. Rose heres where you can really apply your aptitude for since, in this series. Absolutely. I love this series. For me were looking at people that are doing such Amazing Research in areas i dont think i would ever hear about and im not sure the general public would ever hear about and here we are with morgans voice and ability to distill to it be able to shine a light on people doing likely Important Research in our world today. Rose thank you for stopping. Thank you. Rose Lori Mccreary thank you for joining us, see you next time. More more about this episodes and earlier programs visit us online at pbs. Org and charlierose. Com. Rose on the next charlie rose, a trip through the universe with the hayden planetarium. The el minutes on the periodic table we might remember from chemistry class the origin to thermonuclear fusion in the stars . These particular stars happen to explode and scatter the enrichment across the galaxy and carbon, nitrogen, oxygen silicon, all these elements scatter into gas clouds that then collapse and form nextgeneration star systems one of which was ours. So the very ingredients that comprise life are traceable to stars. They gave their lives billions of years before we arrived. Rose so we are stars . We are not only figuratively but quite literally star dust. Rose this is nightly business with ty i think it would be appropriate at some point this year to take the initial step to raise the federal funds rate target. Ready or not, the chair of the Federal Reserve makes it clear that rate hikes are coming if the economy continues to improve. Skys the limit, not with interest rates, but with the Drone Company that wants to help other Companies Make money. 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