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Special. I realize as i get older i have more to offer than just my voice or high notes and acrobatics and stuff and the show, like if then, it requires more than just singing it is a lot of character work and authenticity and vulnerability and all that kind of stuff. As i am getting older i think i am more equal actress singer. When we continue. Funding for charlie rose is provided by the following. Additional funding provided by. And by bloomberg. [ music ] from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. David remnick is here, editor of the new yorker magazine, putin is featured. He writes quote the russian president sees himself as leader of a new anti western, conservative axis and his actions in ukraine have made him a hero at home. So tell me who is vladamir putin when he arrives as president in 2000 literally new years eve, the state is in a complete disarray, state institutions are reeling, really, russia has not recovered from economic collapse, privatization which is chaotic and worse, the place was a mess, terrible mess and putin came in at a time, pledging nothing about ideology and certainly nothing about democracy in any serious way but nor was he terribly anti western he was pledging order, and an end to ai dont say, and a rebuilding of the chaos, and a rebuilding of the economy. Luckily for him price of oil and gas shoots up. By 2006, his popularity is through the roof. Salaries are being paid, middle class is developing, people are travelling abroad, getting a mortgage for their apartment. This is unprecedented in russian history and the deal in Russian Society at this point was from putin to the populous, implicitly if you stay out of politics, that is my realm, you can live your life as you like. Sleep with whom you want, do business the way you want, drink whatever you want. Just stay the hell out of politics. Stay the hell out of politics those who dont, those who get involved will pay the price. Mihail insists on staying in and next thing you know if you try to take power from me i will take you down. Faster than you can say anybodys name. Right. That is 8 years goes by, 2002, 2008 he gives power to his elections but really only one party and power is transferred to his Prime Minister who becomes president , dmitr metyhev. Oil and gas prices are still very high. Studly in 2012 there are street demonstrations, famous demonstrations, people now want even more that is what happens in Society Middle class becomes the middle class, and it enjoys the fruits of that but they want real democracy they want Transparent Elections and what set off the anger of the middle class, was putins announcement im back. I am running for president again, it is the castling manoeuvre. This is politics this is hard core authoritarianism or worse people were angry. People came out into the streets in the tens of thousandputin was offended. He is insulted. He is angry,. They are in the streets because he decided to come back . Yes, in a preem tory, democratic way. They wanted what they were promised for decades now. Mind you the people on the streets are not all liberal democrats some are quite conservative or nationalistic in many ways. And there are no real leaders there is no real ideology. Putin wins he comes back once he wins election, and essentially crushes them. Makes his political lot with an entirely Different Group he says my lot is now with the conservative majority what nixon called the silent majority. This noisy pain in the neck, dares to go on the street, he insults them, berates them on television, turns on them completely and he starts to develop opportunistically an ideology he never voiced fully before, moral conservativism, much closer to the church his allies politically have always been the security branches, so he is a much more hard core anti western,xeno phobic, anti putin that he was. Without suggesting in 2006 he was some elizabeth moran. So therefore he decides then oil prices come down . Oil prices you know the prices have come down everywhere but part of the problem is that the economy has never been really fully reformed, and also there is a cleptocrasy in place. People steal and the level of corruption in russia is enormous beginning with the kremlin. All the countries nationalized are in private hands. Still a lot of private business but the the very biggest one no, go ahead. The most essential ones are eat inner the hands of the government or government related but oligarchs took over but they privatized them for themselves. Bought them then somethings went back into government hands. Therefore, bring us to ukraine and his actions in ukraine. I was in sew she for the olympics sochi for the olympics there were problems with ukraine. The kremlin was not happy with what was going on because russia always considered ukraine as almost most dont consider it a real country. Part of russia. Historically. Russia had a lot of Nuclear Weapons there. Half of the military complex was in Eastern Ukraine. That is why what is going on now is economically based. A lot of the corruption in the last decade or two has been due to the relationship between russia and ukrainian leaders and what they skim off from oil and gas deals. I am talking about ukrainian leaders, you know, after they had their revolution. They compete with each other in corruption. Unbelievable. Those in Eastern Ukraine where they had the crash. Correct they spoke russian, speak russian. Ukrainian i think but tin wants to make this much putin wants to make this much more into a cultural issue. A lot of it was the struggle between the eu wanting to get involved with ukraine and there came the clash and it came to a flash point in winter. While you are there you talked to a lot of people who know him well what did they say about him today i would caution you to say anyone who says they know putin well is usually exaggerating the relationship. He simply it is of all the places you can think of, i cant think of many more country that is are more controlled by the whims and decisions than russia is controlled by putin. I mean short of north korea, and he has people around him to be sure, but they are instrumental in different parts of the administering of the country. Running the oil industry, or somebody in defense or intelligence it is so centered on him. What does he want . Well, i think a lot of what he wants is he is very resentful of the west, very resentful of the west feels the west has betrayed russia, for all kinds of reasons some of this is real some of it is disingenious for example in 2000, 2001, he used to talk about russia possibly becoming part of nato. Right. In a very sincere way and very much wanting to be a member of the international club. Now, a big talking point in russia is how resentful russia is of nato. Kind of new this is imperial hang over a lot of the psychology of putin is similar to the hang over that occurs even to this day from the fall of the ott mono, empire in turkey, no longer being an Imperial Center you once were. When he sits there today we all know the famous quote he made in the 20th century saying after the maybe in the 21st century that the fall of the soviet empire was the worst day of his life. Well, and the complete quote is that it is the greatest geo political catastrophe, of history in his terms the collapse of the soviet union was a blow having nothing to do with communism but just about russian power and what you are seeing now is a reasession. It reassertion. It was about geo political status, military and political. But i talk to people who say he doesnt want to take over they say, all of the former soviet empire. He cant. They cant do that but does want to assert and have a band around russia, russian influence. Well, a lot of the ideology is based on russian speakers. Which is unfortunately, very familiar, vocabulary i am not calling him a fascist i dont want to make these analogies but you heard this about german speakers in another area, and that can get very ugly, i think english language countries dont have homogony over english language speakers everywhere. It is a feeling over the west, promises have been broken humiliations have been inflicted on russia, unfairly since 1991 in particular. A deep sense of conspiracy against russia the west. Absolutely and organizations that are western. Encroachment of nato is part and parcel. They are behind any challenge to his Authority People on the streets were part of a cia operation. Well, right now, i mean the number of russians who concede the likeliest perpetrator of the shoot down of the Malaysian Airlines is russian backed separatists is tiny. Most believe it was either ukraine. Most people in russia. Most people in russia dont believe russia had anything to do with it that it was a conspiracy either committed by the ukraine on its own or with american backing. People you talk to. Absolutely i made it my business on my last trip there a few weeks ago to not talk to the usual cast of liberal characters who speak english but people who are either around putin, or either true believers or more so. Probably this new ideology, thiseurasianist, this new fervour is enforced bay media completely in the hands of the state. The rhetoric you hear on television in particular, would frighten the hell out of you if you heard it. Imagine, i have used this an nailing before, glen beck were in every anchor chair but pointed by the president of the United States it is that perverse the sense of they are out to get us, it is profound. People who used to be on the margins, people who used to be on the kind of nutty margins of the discussion, have now been empowered to be on television, and are very forceful voices they go farther than putin, and in a sense, they allow putin to not only have his view amplified and amped up but for him to point to those guysay i am the reasonable one. But is there within russia, you know, a huge battle going on, about the future of the country . Are there people who not just the middle class people you talked about but people of consequence, either a battle for putins mind or battle for russia i wish there were. Because it is not allowed by putin. Part of the consequences, such state control, over the media, is that debate, is tamped down the degree to which that occurs is subterranean. Or in the kitchen. The liberals are really in retreat they feel defeated, muffled, can they speak out . Do they fear speaking out . In spots. It can be quite dangerous. Again i dont want to say this is the soviet union in 1937. People are not being sent off to the camps. Instead this is much more sophisticated. Well, one was. Exactly the point you dont need to in the same way imperialism in the old sense is too expensive, for modern life, it is incompatible with the global economy, so to repression cant be as totalist as it used to be only north korea deals in that way. So putin picks his spotdemonstrates, the price of rebellion and it is severe. You quoted, a former aid, who said that he loathed spontaneity in politics and he is an anti evolutionary to his core and so when they throughout and he had to find his way to moscow to avoid being arrested, that was for him the ultimate insult. And what conspiracy means in this context charlie, is the orange revolution, rose revolution in georgia, tarir square this is what he fears the most and he fears and is convinced that the west and particularly the cia is behind every single one of those gives them more power than they have. Yes. Perhaps because he knew how much power he had in the kgb. Yes, i think that psychology is there. Very much so. You know, and he sees he saw the demonstrations in moscow, as the potential the seedling of that kind of up rising that he would not tolerate. Same way iranians saw the protest after the election. Same way. Yes. We got to stop that now. Now. Completely and utterly. So what is going to happen . He can be in power as long as he wants even though he recognized the constitutional limits the first time. He did. How long can he last . Well, it depends on the effect of what the current policy is now. If sanctions become injurious not only to the country but the interest of the people around putin, then there is trouble. If russias isolation from the rest of the world, capital flight, its poor public image becomes injeras not only to the country but structures around putin there is potential trouble but right now in the short term his popularity rating is over 80 , control of information is such he is not threatened by pop lair voices of up rising, popular voices of up rising. Do those people think sanctions can work against him . Or he can some how the rhetoric is that they cant and laugh them off. But statistics and experts that know somethings seem to feel, if they begin to hurt they can hurt. How that effects policy. And behaviour. He could become more extrap rows, more angry there are people here who think sanctions could be counter productive i just dont know. Then there is this question that pervades everything you hear one american after another describe him as a thug. Go ahead. Look his background is obvious, i you know maybe it is my character i try not to use words that just i dont know how helpful that is. We know what he has done in chechnya, we know what he has done with journalists we know what we think he has done in certain circumstances. Okay but i think that is enough because back at the time that the syrian thing was really reeling and the shah might lose power and russia stood there in innocence and was on his side, people that i interviewed from the west, who were critical of the Obama Administration would say to me, putin has a strategy. Obama doesnt have a strategy. My question is not so much what the president has, of the United States, but what the president of russia has. Great question, i think with the ukraine he stumbled forward and lurched forward and i am convinced i think in syria he had an interest. An interest. That was their last foothold in the region it gave an opportunity to be a player. Russia was a player. He lost egypt, decades ago. Their interest in the middle east dwindled i think when it came to ukraine for example, he stumbled from one bad decision to the next extrap rowsly, pridefully but to me, russia is far less good shape now than it was before this ukrainian disaster it is a disaster for him even though his popularity is high. And all the rest ultimately it is not good in order to do it he has unleashed forces, ideological and political in his country that are ugly and will not be easy to contain and bring back. So a lot of the people i spoke to for this new yorker article, again are people that are hideous in their ideology, and i used to go see them every once in awhile because they represented a certain strain but now, they are empowered and expectations are i dont just want crimea i want a full invasion of Eastern Ukraine. Then maybe the baltics even though it is nato protected. Well, wherever or trans nestria these things seem harder to believe but sitting in sochi i wouldnt have believed this ukrainian crisis would have he would have let it go that far. No. No. So the question is when you talk to them i mean is he going to turnback, take the troops off the border . All going to be sensitive to guessing is guessing. Guessing is lousy journalism i just dont know. I he doesnt know. I dont think this business of talking about putin as if he is not a rational actor is he is some how crazy, deluded. I think this is instrumental i think this whole development of a new ideology the moralism of it saying the west has become decadent. People in the u. S. Listen to that with great pat cannon. Who like that russia because of what he is saying. Marie lepain thinks he is terrific for all kinds of reasons. New yorker the imperial, putin, russian president sees himself as a leader of a new anti western conservative axis and his actions in ukraine have made him a hero at home. Former member of the National Security council when he came there, putin took him on. Well, mike mcfalls entire academic and political career was about democracy building, and he was going to be he thought he was going to be continuing the reset and he arrived in moscow just as things turned to the worst and became a target of putinfrom day one i questioned Hillary Clinton about the reset to russia and her explanation well, when medved was there. It was far from perfect there were many issues we were still at logger heads about but it was a heck of a lot better when he was there. There is no way in the world putin agreed with his decision to not veto the nato incursion into libya that made putin completely filled with rage. Thank you for coming. Any time. Back in a moment stay with us a Tony Award Winning actress you know that, best known for a powerful voice she was part of the original broadway shows rent and wicked. Last year her voice played else is a the snow queen in frozen. It elsa the snow queen in frozen. This year she returned to broadway after a 10 year break she plays a woman who restarts her life in new york and pursues two different paths here is a look at if then here i am, oh, here i go, i love you so. Oh, here i go im amazed that she gave in, [ music ] [ music ] no turning back, no turning back you wonder what is, what is, [ applause ] oh, my god. Oh, my god here she is. Hard to hear myself. It is great to have you here. In front of you [ laughter ] great to be at this table. Wow. Going to take it in. It cant get any better can it . Sitting at this table . No. No, you are at the forget all the other stuff you sang at the major league allstar game. Right. How was that. Amazing. How many people in the stadium i dont know how many were there. 50,000. Okay and you know because everyone knows it is a nerve wracking game for lyrics what is more nerve wracking are those very masculine, famous Baseball Players all standing there, in front of me waiting to see what i can do. That was intimidating. But it is a good time. Yeah. Yeah, it is a good time. Did you know this was going to happen . You always hung in there, number one you believed in your talent. I did. Yeah. And even though you were disappointed because you were in rent but didnt get all the attention you were in wicked didnt get all the attention. I wasnt disappointed about that. I know you were. I am a competitive person. No kidding. But i got a lot of attention you know, wicked i it is more the responsibility and yes, the attention makes me a little bit more anxious about things and people watching but having your name above the title all that kind of stuff but it has been an interesting year professionally. What is the great ambition for you . Um, honestly, this is what has been my greatest ambition, honestly just my son i have a 4 almost 5yearold in a month. I really want to figure out how to live my life, doing what i love, being an artist and performer and also being a great mom and not just working myself into a tizzy about it, through the guilt, i would like to figure out how to reconcile that and live in both worlds and enjoy both and you know raise a really great kid which hopefully i think i am doing. What is his name . Walker. Walker. Yeah and he sings he dances, he is very imaginative, creative he visits me at the theatre in between shows on a saturday. He brings his dinosaurs, he does his make up while mommy does her make up. He has a lot of theatrical dna. He does he could care less mommy sings it is annoying the let it go thing because all the kids think their mommies and everyone sings the song and he says well, my mommy sings the song and they are like well, so does mine. He doesnt get it. What is unique about your mom. Or she is in the movie. Take me back the queens and why this . What made you want to do this . Um, well, i grew up mostly on long island i meant long island. I was born in queens but my parents took me in to see a broadway show all the time ever since i was a little kid i saw Barbara Streisand and Chris Kristopherson it was her really, the first album i ever owned i used to listen to it constantly something about her voice was just she had so much control over it and yet so much so unabandonned at the same time and free. Her emotional connection and range struck a cord and i wanted to achieve that. They took me to shows all the time and that is what i wanted to do for a long time. Then i became a Wedding Singer and started listening to aretha franklin. Then i thought i would like to be a rock star. Exactly i went to nyu and had my bands and so rent was the perfect balance of first professional job to have those influences, and the rock and the soul and that was also musical theatre. Do you think of yourself more as a singer than actor . I used to. I used i still i think i have more confidence as a singer although, i am starting to change that tune. I think because i had a voice ever since i was a little girl it was the thing i held on to, how i see myself. Why i think people like me or why they think i am special. As i am getting older i realize i have more to offer than just my voice or the high noteacrobatics and stuff. And a show like i said, it requires more than just singing it is a lot of character work and authenticity and vulnerability and all that kind of stuff. So as i am getting older i think i am more equal actress, singer. The return to broadway was after 10 years. Yes, you know, it is not technically that i was in wicked for a year and a half then i went to london and did it for another year i had a baby then you know i did concertall in that time i was looking for another original piece which is very hard to find you put yourself out there and a bunch of different composers and writers are working and original musicals take a long time to nurture and i found this one, with michael grey who is the director from rent i think you have had on the show before and tom and brian and davis stone my producer from wicked and but i wanted it you know you got to give it the right amount of time to develop and find its way. So who are liz and beth . They are just two parts of one soul i guess how i look at it you know, they are just two of many sides of the spectrum of women i think and we just choose to portray that and tell those stories. There they are the same woman effected by different circumstances, one happens to take the path of career and work and doesnt find the love of her life right away and the other one meets some body and has to figure out how to compromise or does she want to compromise her career goals for love and children. You play both roles. I play both to me it is all the same woman just what was fun as an actress was figuring out you know, we couldnt play one with a limp and one with a french accent it is the same woman just so but there is nuance and how does one woman that has had two children and the same woman that maybe never had children does she walk any differently or carry herself any differently . One wears glasses one doesnt. Yeah,. To identify. Yeah, we figured chaplain used to do that so we would go with an old device but it is very cathartic for me to go out there every night and have a role that i can play inside of but also use to explore and work out some of my own struggles that i have. What struggles do you have. Same things i was talking about being a mother and selfish this and priorities and sticking my career over an extra hour with my son or sleeping in because he wakes me up at 6 00 a. M. , he is sick and i cant hit the high notes because i am exhausted how to bam lance that and what is really im balance that and what is really important. Having a child helped ground me in so many ways because it is about him and it is not as much about me which takes a lot of stress off of me to finally realize it is finally not about me. Has anyone in your professional life ever said you are spending too much time with your kid . No, but i can feel when i bring him with me on certain events or when they wish i wasnt as distracted following him around, he is crying they want me to have my game face but the thing is it helps it helps to get on stage and not be so nervous about what you are doing, because you are worrying if you have gone on stage and left him for a minute so if the songs and notes and all those famous people watching are not as important as a little guy that depends on you so it has given me a place when i get on stage to perform, i for lack of a better term, let it go. Because you know i surrender and then i am freer and more relaxed and i think more interesting things come out. What about his father . What about him . [ laughter ] he is a very good father a very good man. He plays his role. He does. We are just separating this year so it has been a tumultuous weird year of wonderful accolades and things happening career wise and personally not so good. But he is a terrific father and a great friend and you know i love him very much and so, figuring this out and negotiating all this is lets put it this way it is great to have the show i am in now and a cast as incredible people and friends to surround myself with as i figure out how i am going the tackle this next part of my life how did you improve at your craft . How do you get better professionally . Um, just doing it or do you have to focus and say if i am going to go from here to here i got to pay a lot of attention to that, ive got to get the right kind of coaching. I have the same teacher for 20 years now, same voice teacher since college. We work really hard. We i still do the same vocal exercises, very similar regiment to prepare for a show, 8 shows a week depending what i am going to do i work really hard, i practice a lot, i take the music in, way before i even have to step into rehearsal i take it to her and we look at it and say what is going to give me some problems here or what is intimidating me when am i over singing and could hurt myself. People in the theatre hear me warming up in a steamy shower every day for 40 minutes before a show or now that i can afford a little more i bring her and she travels with me some times and helps me pace myself helps me says if they are getting you up at 6 00 a. M. To sing on national tv maybe you shouldnt do this the night before have an easier show pick these melodies. Someone has to lookout for you. Help me make choices. Yeah. How do you come down in terms of choice, ben brantly said it is a portrait of roads taken or not of a person might have been if only she had done this instead of that. Mmhmm. That is not all he said. Yeah. I know. But it was he gave you high praise. He did. Okay. What are we talking about with him . I have a chip on my shoulder. Choices people make. Did you come away, do you have because of having fought through this broadway production, with an opinion about all this, do you think that you can, it is not a choice of having a life that beth has versus a life. Right. That liz has. What i come away with you make those kinds of sacrifices if i want a family i cant have a professional life if i want a professional life i cant have a family. Right i think it is about trying to stay in the moment, to recision sured and trust in these rest assured and trust in these ideas as long as uroleneing something through whatever experience you are in at the moment, that will open a door and prepare you for the next opportunity. Whether it gos in this direction or that direction how you get there remains to be seen. That is why i like it is a city planner you know, that the character is a city planner because in this chaotic world in the city and in this huge city we can still run into some body there is a method to the madness how we choose to walk to work every day, and city planning makes a difference. It makes a real difference. I didnt know that until i was researching. This is a famous story, amanda birdman chairman of the planning department, and commissioner of the new york city planning commission, chairman of that, as well. Some body who the producer or the writer saw her story, in a profile,. Right. And decided this life would be the perfect life for you to inhabit. Yeah, a good parallel because i think you have to be it is only partly her life started as an economist then changed it to her life. She is more glamorous. Well, she is beautiful and glamorous. She is smart, i think it is an occupation that requires not just statistics it is about numbermaking sense of things but also about the heart and when i have sat with amanda before she does go and feel the site she says it is about going there and feeling it and understanding it and the people all around not just about getting all the papers and the zoning and you know, it is so we needed that. We needed that to heart and the mind to be working together or struggling at all times and also the choicethe streets the paths that we take gave us a really nice metaphor. How about liz . Yeah, well, liz the woman who wants to marry and have a family. Well, she meets that man and he understands her but she fights it tooth and nail, but she comes from a marriage that was you know crappy marriage that she compromised herself and went for the man so she comes back to new york and meets this guy and you know she doesnt want the lose herself she doesnt want to need a man doesnt want to need anyone and yet, he is wonderful for her, and celebrating her and so then they end up having kids a little too soon it is an accident and before you know it now she is taking you know, compromising on the jobs she would have wanted to take. And so it is about timing, about age, all this stuff that i deal with every single day. Whether or not to have a second child, you know i am getting divorced and i have one kid and i am 43, you know what do you do, do you go freeze your eggs i tell you what you dont do, you not to decide as you know, you can freeze eggs and do all those kinds of things but why not is my question why not what . If the 4yearold brings you so much joy and you feel like you add so much joy to his life why not. Have another one . One reason not to have a child. Another child . Give me one reason because the first couple years because i want to travel a lot and he is at the age he going to be 5 i want to take him to africa and if i have the baby i was so i did not want to leave that baby i just doted on him and the Breast Feeding and it is just you know doesnt seem to get in the way for brad and angelina. I know. Of course i would like to be a fly on the wall there. I would i want to soak it in. What would you want to know if you were a fly on the wall there. How she juggles it. How many days i dont like being asked how many hours a day i spend with my son how do you make the pancakegive the baths and read the book so you can do the night time ritual and get to set and memorize your lines how do you do it all and what is enough . And knowing that my son is going to grow up seeing a very strong willed independent passionate woman as his mother and that ready for that. If i didnt do all that he would see a different side of me probably i wouldnt want him to see so it is just grappling with that all the time. Is that an excuse that i make . You know would you have to find the right man or do this by some other means . I just yeah, i would have to find the right man i dont know i am just saying these are the things i think about. Or i can be very happy with my little guy and take him all over the world. Sounds like a win, win to me. Happy with him but the great gift of another one. Yes, if the body decided to allow me. Yes. When you first heard let it go. Mmhmm. Did you say oh, my god. Um, i thought it was a great song i thought it was a great song i thought it was great for my character for the writing, for the movie i thought disney was doing something cool because i wasnt just your typical nemesis they were getting more complicated with their women which is important. I liked that it had an edge to it but no idea in this day and age social media and the whole thing it would resonate with everyone the way it has. They are bringing it to broadway i am told. Eventually, it takes a minute everybody thinks it will be up tomorrow the lion king is a beautiful piece of work but took a long time. Another disney production. Yes. Can you balance film and theatre. So far. My film career isnt that budding you know. It has had a few roles. Who is a role model for you. Um, we want to talk my younger sister is a role model she is a 2nd grade teacher had two kids early on and single and got a divorce, she is just really handled so much so gracefully. As far as other actors or performers she look like you very similar she is just a stretched out elongated version. Pointier and skinnier. Yes. And other role models i was thinking about someone like who is combining acting and theatre. Like bette midler and barbara bar streisand. I feel like i have accomplished so much this year and i am feeling much more relaxed and relaxed and confident. And just satisfied with where i am in my life. The only thing i really would like is that sort of movie the rose, or the funny girl. Scenes like wicked show me kristen and i will be too old by the time they do the movie. I would like to be in a film where i can show case my different talents in that way but you know beggars cant be choosers i am happy i have a hit song that is a very theatrical song which normally five years ago would never have been played on the radio. It is an incredible thing every child i know sings it. I know. Then their parents send me the video of it. And i love that. Do they really . Yes they want you to see. Yes. Take a look at this video here it is [ music ] snow glows white on the mountain tonight, not a footprint to be seen, a kingdom of isolation, and it looks like im the queen. The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside, can you keep it in, heaven knows i tried. Dont let them in, dont let them see, be the good girl you always have to be, conceal dont feel, dont let them know, well, now they know let it go, let it go, cant hold me back any more, let it go, let it go, turn away and slam the door. I dont care, what theyre going to say, let the storm rage on, the cold never bothered me any way how much of a great voice is simply a gift . I dont know. Thats a good question. What do you think . Honestly i want to know what you think . I think it is kind of a gift. At the risk of sounding conceded or arrogant. Someone early on said you can sing i love your voice. I have asked athletes that and they will say to me you know i just could hit a ball early and people said boy that is great and the more they said thats great the more i wanted to do it and the better i dot. That makes sense. Then all of a sudden you are in an elite group. Yeah. You are a great tennis player and 10 and winning all the juniors. But there are people lots of voices, and great insurance, but which ones actually make you get the chills you know. That is kind of that thing to me that is more important than almost like genius can see that. I am not sure people can figure that out, the one that is going to make you sort of say oh, my god. Yeah, i dont know it is like and it is a combination of whatever acoustics i had. I think i have this big ugly wide jaw maybe that is the cavernous thing. Plays a role. But then big lungs. It is that i had lessons early on and was taught how to breathe so i could find these sounds who i listened to and tried to emulate. Maybe genetically even though you know i am not sure when my family can really sing but also the willingness to be authentic and vulnerable and to be seen i think is more than just singing. And that is something that i really aspired to do. It is very scary but almost more comfortable, being up on stageshedding my skin in order to be completely true in front of an audience, than i do sitting here on a one on one trying to be as authentic as possible. Thats funny. Easier for you just to shed your skin on stage. Yeah in front of all those people i dont know. It doesnt make sense right that you can be confident enough person to get up and believe you can do that, and get through the nerves not sabotage yourself get up there do it sing at the oscars, National Anthem and not completely fail, you can be that confident and yet, such a mess in your personal life and have so much neurosis and be willing to be vulnerable and take the rejection it is an interesting dichotomy with performers. But are you open with your friends . Yes so you share these i have that stupid habit of disclaiming my short comings quickly so that you cant find them. All these neurosis we were sitting at a round table like this we know who our friend is at this table who is most competitive and i leaned in and said who. You. Oh, no. I didnt know that. I didnt like the way that sounded. How are you competitive . I dont know i was a tomboy when i was younger my dad you know he had me and my sister so he put all the sports to me, so i played you know softball and soccer and i think you had to be competitive in this business just like the athletes, when they when the bell is going to go off. Or the best ones want the ball. I want the ball. I just make myself sick beforehand but i really want it. Nice way to end. Wanting the ball. Thank you. Thank you. Pleasure. Pleasure good to see you. You too. For more about this program and early episodes visit us online at pbs. Org and charlie rose. Com. 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