Combination of factors a. We dont know. Charlie we continue with Robert Wagner, talks about the golden age of hollywood in his new book called you must remember this. I work with a lot of young people and they always ask me about what was it like . What was the golden era like and what was it like being in the contract system and all that. So i started to tell them. You know, i tell them, universal had 40 young people under contract and fox had 40 and columbia had 20, and every studio had a young contract players list, and we were all anxious and eager to get into the movies and, you know, today, thats not possible. You know, thats not you know, youre a young actor today, youve got to go out and get an acting coach charlie right. Get a manager. Charlie we conclude this evening with jane fonda, who does everything well, including writing about teenagers. Her new book is called being a teen. Girls lose their true authenticity at puberty but they have a whole decade before then of, oh yeah, who says . And wrestling and climbing trees and being feisty. Thats why girls and women tend to be more agents of change because you dont have to scrape so deep to get them back to where they were. Charlie the missing airliner, Robert Wagner and jane fonda when we continue. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Charlie the search continues for Malaysian Airlines boeing 777 that went missing saturday. At the time of this taping, there remains to clues about what happened to the plane or where it might be today. Malaysian authorities announced after the plane stopped communicating with Ground Control it radically changed course. Two iranian men on the flight were traveling on stolen european passports that initially led to fears of terrorism. Although the possibility has not been ruled out. Interpol says unlikely. Vessels and planes continue to search the seas. Bob orr, justice and Homeland Security correspndent from cbs news and from boston, david martin, oceanographer who led the search for france air flight 447. What do we know about flight 370 . Four days after the plane disappeared, we dont know where it is or what happened to the plane. Part of the problem is we have conflicting information and not many facts to go with that. We havent found the wreckage. Obviously we dont have the planes black boxes. Were working on the intel side. U. S. And intelligence agencies around the world have looked at the passenger manifest list, dont see ties to terrorism. Listened to chart, no claims of responsibility. So we have a missing airplane and cant say whether or not it crashed because of mechanical failure or sabotage, maybe a bomb or a combination of factors. We simply dont know. Charlie its unlikely, some people suggest, that it was a bomb because there was not a scattering of wreckage. Yeah, weve seen in past crashes, pan am 103 from 1988, that plane was at altitude, a small bomb punched a hole in the cargo and the plane unzipped and spread debris over an 80mile swath. Here, we have all these ships and helicopters and planes scouring the gulf of thailand and the surrounding bodies of water and, four days in, we dont see one shred of debris. That tells me we are either looking completely in the wrong place or the plain did not the plane did not come apart at altitude and more than likely hit the water in tact. Its a big plane but a much bigger ocean. Charlie what do we make of the report the malaysian military announced the last time the flight was seen, it was 100 miles off course and traveling in the opposite direction to its original destination . It doesnt make any sense. Civilian controllers say they lost the plane at 35,000 feet in a Straight Line from kuala lumpur to beijing. The transponder on the plane, thats the device that tells the controllers how high you, are how fast the plane is, where its going, precise location, the trance ponder apparently stopped sending messages and all communication was lost. The military says, after that happened, we see socall primary echoes on military radar basically just blips you know about moving away from the scene, going 100 miles or more the wrong direction. Maybe that was the plane. Heres the thing, though, the military doesnt know exactly what the blips were. They may have been false echos. Theyre not sure, but they cant take any chances here, so theyve expanded the search area and were looking over a search area thats just huge. Charlie we talked about this sunday on face the nation, but the idea that you would assume a pilot would send out some kind of distress signal if there was a mechanical or other possibility here. And in a perfect world, he would. He would tell the controllers and hopefully his home dispatch what hes up against. But pilots fly by a very strict discipline, and that is you aviate, you navigate and then communicate. So if youre at 35,000 feet and you know you have a couple hundred people on the plane behind you and something happens, something breaks, a system fails, the first thing you want to do is get control of the situation and fly the airplane. You dont want to become fixated on the problem. It may not be as serious as you think and, even if it is as serious, youve got to fly the airplane first. Once you have regained control or youve taken care of the problem the best you can, then its advisable to get ahold of controllers and say, look, this is what happened. Its entirely possible, though counterinto yocounterintuitive,r happened was so serious that they didnt have time to communicate it to control. Charlie dave, tell me your assessment, having looked, talked and made your own analysis. Yeah, i thought air France Flight 447 was going to be one of the most difficult cases but this is rapidly becoming one of the most mysterious searches of all time. This is tracking almost exactly like air France Flight 447, a lot of false leads. But a one thing we had on air France Flight 447 is we were fairly certain of the last known position. And there is some question whether the malaysian military really saw the plane and if youre not confident about that, boy, its a long way from being solved. Charlie what makes sense to you, if anything . Well, what doesnt make sense is that well, what makes sense is were missing an aircraft with 239 people on board. What doesnt make sense is where is it . How do you lose a plane . Air france 447, remote area between south america and africa. This is in a highlycongested area. How do you lose an aircraft in that place . You hear earlier maybe it landed in tact, thats one way you can do it, but theres not a shred of evidence the plane ever landed on water. Charlie you must have looked at this and say, based on what i know, my best, most likely scenario is what . No. Charlie no . Were stumped. I talked to other do leaders of air France Flight 447 this morning and were all scratching our head and feel sorry for the command Center Taking in all the information. Im sure theyve had a lot of sleepless nights, the pressure is building and the criticism is growing. Its a hard place to be in because people are wondering whether they know what theyre doing. They need the confidence of the public. We dont have clues. Normally you start with the lastknown position and then try to figure out x marks the spot on the sea surface and usually you do that with the combination of the lastknown position and whatever you find on the sea surface, but thats missing in this case, so all you have to go on now is the last known position from radar. Charlie so, bob, you sense the same thing, frustration, people saying, look, weve walked every trail, and they all end nowhere . Absolutely right. I mean, i talk to veteran crash investigators now, charley charo say this is the most mystifying so far. We have flight 800 who blew up and figured out it was a fuel tank explosion. Air france was a tough one in deep water in a remote area. But in this one, the facts that have been presented to us simply dont make sense and leads me to believe that either we dont have all the correct facts perhaps the authorities are holding something back, i hope thats not true but we dont know everything that there is to know. And the only thing i can conclude, is four days in, the absence of any kind of debris, nothing floating, no seat cushion, no light piece of insulation. I think we must be just looking in the wrong spot. Thats hard to reconcile with the last known position in the radar. But you have gaps in the radar coverage and its possible the planes tranc transponder may he failed and the plane may have continued in a dead zone. I think as the search expands well find it. I just dont know when, charlie. Charlie what is the latest on the passport investigations and what theyre uncovering and the reports that we get that, so far, it does not lead to terrorism . But what are they finding out about the passengers and the pilots that they know about . Well, there were two gentlemen on the plane who turned out to be iranians who essentially paid for safe passage to europe. They flew from doha into malaysia on foreign passports. They used a middle man in iron to buy the tickets for the flight that left from kuala lumpur enroute to beijing and planning to go to europe. U. S. And International Authorities are fairly confident they were seeking asylum and werent terrorists and dont believe they have any role in the planes disappearance. That said, there are still 200plus other people on the plane and the crew. All the people, until clears, are suspects to a degree. So the intelligence agencies are going through the names and manifests looking for derogatory information. As far as i have been told, they havent found anything so far that shows any kind of even suspect link. There was one group, an unheard of group, called the chinese martyrs brigade that took credit for taking the plane down but u. S. Intelligence quickly dismissed that as a likely hoax. Charlie dave, what will change because of this . Whatever the end result is to this plane, what happened to this plane . You know, charlie, i was hoping after air France Flight 447, this went on for two years for the families and loved ones of the passengers on air france 447, two years waiting for a resolution. You know, weve got to do better at tracking planes from the surface and better with the cockpit and data recorder, the black boxes, and being able to locate those because those are the only witnesses and if we want to solve it the surest way is to find those two things. Two years passed. Theres still not really a rapid response. We are really we just dont on a bigger scale, we dont take the oceans very seriously at all and were hardly equipped to respond rapidly, especially if its in the sea. In thailand, the depth is 2 feet, but in the sea its two miles. So that requires more to search. So we have to get more serious in exploring and searching in the oceans and a lot more serious in tracking the planes before they impact the ocean. Charlie whos directing the search, the malaysians . Totally, this is a malaysian investigation, and thats kind of a sensitive point. The u. S. And the brits offered to send all kinds of help. We have ntsb and faa officials theyre all standing by and in position. The malaysian authorities pretty much said well call you if we need you. I think theres a lot of expertise around the world with these crash labs and crash investigators who are willing to help, but they have to be asked in. Charlie bob orr, thank you so much. Bob orr, justice and Homeland Security correspndent for cbs news, my colleague there. Davidave gallo, thank you as we. Robert wagner is here. In the late 1940s, the up and comer had an inside view of that period in history. His book, you must remember this, reflects that special time. Glad to have Robert Wagner back at this table with his book. A pleasure. Charlie youre 84. Yeah. Charlie you look fabulous laughter you take care of yourself . Yeah, i try to keep it together, you know. Do some stretches and lift a few weights and swim a bit. Charlie eat well. I beg your pardon . Charlie eat well. Yeah, well charlie not as much as. Not as much as. Charlie this book is about a hollywood you knew. Yeah. Charlie tell me about it. Well, you know, i work with a lot of young people, and they always ask me about what it was like, what was the golden era like, and what was it like being in the contract system, all that. So i started to tell them. You know, i tell them that universal had 40 young people under contract and fox had 40 and columbia add 20 and every studio had a young contract players list, and we were all anxious and eager to get into the movies and, you know, today, thats not possible. You know, thats not you know, youre a young actor today, youve got to go out and get an acting coach, get a manager and try to get a part in a picture charlie a trainer. Yeah. Charlie youve got to be engaged by social media. Yeah, its very difficult on young people today, you know, to start their career. You know, charlie, i was lucky, you know. I caught it. So thats what i wrote about. It was the most thrilling time in my life, so thats why im trying to put it down. Charlie like sinatras and spencer tracys. Yeah, that was nice. My hope is that the people that read this book will be as thrilled as i was when i did. Charlie you make an important point, though these were men, at that time, warner and his brother sam at columbia, right. Darrell zana. Charlie these were people who loved, loved, loved the movies and cared about movies they wanted to see. And they put their names on it. Charlie yeah. You know, and they had a passion for it. They cared for it. And they gambled, they took great risks. Maybe the picture wouldnt make that much money at that moment, but over a period of time, it would return its cost, you know. They didnt have so much pressure as for the Quarterly Earnings and about, you know you know, the thing that happens now, if a picture grosses a tremendous amount of money, it really doesnt move the needle on the stock market. You know, because its some subsidiary of some big company. So a picture makes, you know, 500 million, it doesnt really charlie sony owns columbia, that epcot thing, actually selling electronics. Right. Charlie the idea for the actor at the time, though, the studio system was good, but you didnt have the same freedom, did you . Well, you had you had freedom. I mean, we actually had more freedom, you know. We could go are you talking publicitywise . Charlie no, with the roles. Oh, no, not much freedom with that. But they had the idea what would be right for me. That doesnt happen so much anymore. Charlie how did you get a start . At 20th century fox, making 75 a week, take home 55, and i was in the movies. I was making tests with all the girls who came in. I did two tests with marilyn monroe. Charlie really. I was the test boy. All i wanted to do is get in front of the camera, figure out how it works and get used to it. So i started there, and they had a tremendous fan Magazine Department as they did in every studio, and i did a film called a song in my heart, which i was on the screen only a few minutes, with Susan Hayward and she played jane froman. And people walked out of the studio and said, whos that guy . Thats what happens. The picture hits and theyll wonder who he was and that will start you. Charlie didnt you used to caddy for some of these guys . I caddied for clark gable. He took me to mgm. I told him i would like to be an actor. He said, let me ill check it out. It didnt work, but i went there and met the coaches there. But they had other people in mind, and that was that. So i went on. Charlie now, if you had a studio contracts, would they give you a lot of acting lessons and that kind of thing . You could do anything. They had coaches there, they had dramatic coaches, they had fencing, they had, you know, ballet, they had anything, horseback riding, theyd teach you anything. Charlie teach you any skill. Anything you wanted. Charlie and hollywood was a small town. It was. Charlie you go to the Grocery Store yourself. You didnt have to be worried about being mobbed bipap ratsy. Y poparazzi. People were kind, they liked to see you. It was a thrill to see an actor, somebody who was in the movies and stuff like that. It wasnt like it is now where theyre all over you and trying to get a picture and, you know, get a photograph and they can get money for it. Its a different kind of listen, im charlie youre just an image for them. Well, its tough. These guys that are really on fire, like a brad pitt and angelina jolie, i mean, they cant go out of their house without having some kind of protection and some kind of people getting back and protecting their kids and all that. Its really tough. Its a tremendous invasion. Charlie yeah, i mean, George Clooney, for example hes good. Charlie he is good. Hes wonderful. Charlie but theres a guy whos there and he gives him space. He knows george will be in the picture, you know, a chance for a picture. I think he handles it really very well. Charlie because you cant do this, can you . Because thats the picture theyll put. I guess you can. I dont know. I dont have that kind of rush on me. But a man like George Clooney, i mean, hes exposed, you know, a lot, and i think he probably does have a difficult time in getting people out of his way so that he can have his talent. Charlie if you had to live your life over, what would you do differently . Go into another business . This is what i always wanted to do charlie yeah. This business has been absolutely wonderful to me. I worked 65 years. Just finished ncis, it was on last week. I love those people, and they write great stuff for me. Im working at 84 years old. Come on. Its great huh . laughter charlie yeah. I want to be you i want to be you i want to be you you know, but charlie they do treat me like royalty, though. Yeah, and they should. But, i mean, i love what i do. I love it, you know. Charlie but. But im not so sure, with all of this charlie the way its changed. The way it happened because, you know, were all fair game, and everybodys got a camera, and everybodys got they can get you on the internet, they can say anything they want about you, you dont have any kind of recourse about it. You have to just back up. Charlie and if you have tragedy, they never let it go. It just never stops. Charlie yeah. Youve had to come with grips with natalie by saying, i loved this woman, she was my dream. Right, thats true. Charlie i know its a mystery for all you, but ive told you everything i know. Yeah, thats it. I mean, thats the fact, you know. Its not rumor. Thats the truth. Charlie when you were there, was she was she who everybody wanted to be, natalie . Was she charlie as a young star. Was she happy . Charlie no, was she what everybody wanted to be, a young star who was becoming huge. Well, you know, she started off as a child actor. She, at five years old, was playing with orson wells and claudette cobair, doing a girl with a german accent. They dyed her hair blonde. She had a godgiven gift and she was able to cross over from child star to leading laidy, and she really did some wonderful work. She did some great pictures. She was a very special, special talent and highly regarded. Charlie of all those people, just give me i mean, we all look i mean, Jimmy Stewart mmhmm. Charlie how can you not love Jimmy Stewart . Oh, he was great. Very special human being. Very honest, you know. You know, he was able to kind of shake everything off of him and be the character that he played, and he kind of got that stuff out of the way you know, i mean, when you think of the things he did, he was a very courageous actor. Cary grant, he took all sorts of risks, but they were their own men. Charlie everybody looks for the next cary grant, and they cant find him. George had it a little bit, but theres never anybody who sort of has had exactly what he had in terms of roles yeah, and he created it. Charlie he created the character. He created the character, but, also, those scripts and that dynamic that went on with all of that you know, philadelphia story and that kind of thing that doesnt happen anymore, you know. Charlie mr. Smith goes to washington and all that. Yeah. Charlie looking back, do you wish you had spent more time as George Clooney as done, as clint eastwood, as Warren Beatty has done, learning the whole business . Well, i learned the whole business. I learned the whole business, but those guys are very special. I mean, you know, warren is a very talented man. I mean, he put together some very, very good films and very talented. Charlie hes back making a new film, too. Yeah. Charlie about howard hughes. And George Clooney. Charlie clint eastwood. Look at eastwoods career. Charlie body of work. Yeah, i just never had a chance to direct charlie they dont just give you the chance. You have to want to really want it badly. I decked directing on tv but i was on tv almost 15 years straight. I had a great run with my show hart to hart. Charlie yeah. And it takes a thief and switch and all the movies. I went in that direction, and it was wonderful for me. I mean, put my kids through school and gave me a worldwide name. Charlie but you seem also to be, to me and what do i know you seem to be part of hollywood royalty and, so, that all the Network Executives and all the people sort of like your social company as well. Yes . I hope so. Charlie its true. You had a place there because you may have been there for a while, but you were also part of the community, and you saw them at dinner and they liked you because you were smart, attractive, had a great family, et cetera. I think so. I think so. Charlie yeah. I mean, i think that all helps, too, you know. But content is so important, you know, and a lot of the people that are running the studios and the conglomerates and all that, theyre not so interested in the material. The people we were talking about, beatty and, you know charlie right. They are interested charlie clooney. Clooney. Content, thats what theyre interested in. Clint, story. Clint is driven by that. Charlie on the cover of this book, ive had the good fortune to have been here more than one day and, so, therefore, ive met lots of people you know. Yes. Charlie this is one when anybody says to me, tell me about your ten favorite interviews, shes on the list. Tell them about that interview. Thats a great interview. Charlie but shes so shes so real charlie exactly. Shes right from the earth. Charlie right there. I like her very much. I worked with her, you know, and viktor directed the movie. Charlie he was special. That picture was taken when she came to los angeles after doing boy on a dolphin, that was man on the right was him. Charlie tell me about marilyn monroe. Oh, marilyn, she was such a wonderful lady. Charlie was she really . Oh, yeah. Charlie but she was troubled. Oh, yeah, she was troubled, very troubled. But, i mean, you know, everybody wanted to get to her. I knew her when she was a model, you know, doing covers. Charlie you did . Trying to break into the movies. Yeah. So she would go on a modeling job. Shed walk in and my daughters mother, marian marshall, was a model at that time and marilyn would come in and she had the shot, she knew it right away. And when i did the tests with her, she was so nice. She was just a terrific, terrific lady. I would see her on and off after that, and she couldnt have been nicer. Charlie a great picture of you and sinatra and natalie. Yeah, that was natalies 21st birthday party. Charlie 21st. Yeah, frank gave her that party. That was a great time. Charlie what was he like . Great. Charlie the consummate entertainer. Yeah. Charlie the consummate entertainer. He was so generous to me, took me places with him and, you know, i went to recording sessions and saw him so often. He was just a fabulous guy. Fabulous. Charlie you knew lou wasserman. Yes. Charlie how was he . He was very influential in my career. Charlie what did he do for you . He put me into television. Charlie because he owned universal. Yeah. Charlie or part of it. He said, i think this character for you, alexander munday, which is a series i did called it takes a thief, he says, i think you can make the cross between movies and going into television and he said, i want you to do it. He says, if it doesnt work out, ill make a movie out of it for you. I said, okay. Charlie if it doesnt work out, ill make a movie. Yeah. And i did the series and then it just you know, it hit, right over the wall. And from that, you know, i became, you know, known all over the world. Charlie that movie that series was in syndication all over the world and they loved it because it had an international flavor. And we did a lot of them. They were great. Fred astaire came on that and played my father. Charlie i know, i know. I played his son. Charlie yes, yes. He was the thief. Charlie yeah. But didnt you heres what would trouble me if i was you in that thing i mean, you seemed to have too little control over your career. Well charlie everybody else was deciding what bob wagner was going to do. Yeah, but they made pretty good decisions. Charlie yes, they did. They were out for me for the best, you know. They werent trying to put me in something that i mean, i did some charlie they knew things and you trusted their judgment. Absolutely, i did. It was like a family, you know. If they said, listen, you can do this, well do that for you and well make you look right, well do the best for you. Its a crap shoot, anyway, who knows whats going to be a hit. Charlie take it back. You said, i mif i might have goo business. Yeah. Charlie would that have been exciting enough for you . I dont think so. No, i had an opportunity to follow my father wanted me to go in his business, by is a steel business, and i worked back east for a while in the mills and stuff like that, but i wanted to be in the movies. I was fascinated by movies, charlie. Charlie iv everybody wantso be in the movies. But im sitting in the theater looking at these guys going, how do they do that . It was great. And then to see them in person, oh, my and i was never in my whole career, i have never been disappointed in someone ive met. Cary was sensational. Charlie any of them behind the scenes no. Charlie nobody . Nobody. Very lucky. Charlie how many people did you meet . Lots. Lots. laughter no, i mean that, really, truly. Charlie yeah . For me. I just admired them, so you know. And they were generous to me and so i just gotta tell ya, i i was so thrilled to be a part of this, it was everything to me. It meant everything to me. Charlie hows jill . She is wonderful. Charlie i do love her. Yeah, shes great. Charlie i mean, thats really been been wonderful. We have been married 24 years. Charlie a lucky break for mr. Wagner. Boy, ill say. laughter i really didnt think and ive talked to you about this i didnt think i was going to land on my feet again because, after natalie died, that was a very, very difficult, very, very rough time for all of us, for my whole family and, you know, when she came into my life, she had her hand under my elbow, holding me up, you know. Charlie it was devastating for you. Beyond the loss of your wife, just the suspicious and everything that people said they didnt know. Yeah, well. We didnt, you know. Charlie will we ever know . I dont think so. They well, when Something Like that happens where nobody sees what happened, you know, nobody saw what happened to her, she was just gone, you know, and, so, when that happens, theres no its an open situation. I mean, theres been, you know we have ideas of what that she, you know, had this accident and slipped on the step and rolled into the water, but, you know charlie why do you think that guy came forward several years ago . What was his well, you know, charlie, i think that its kind of transparent. He had written a book, and he wanted to get publicity. I mean, i really never answered it because it was, you know, all hearsay, you know. It wasnt true. I mean, you know. There were so many people that were involved when this accident happened, there were so many people that were on top of that, theres no way with it could have ever been anything than what happened. I mean, thats it. Charlie people would have made a career if they could have figured out Something Different than the accepted truth. Absolutely, yeah. Absolutely. That was a very tragic thing that happened. It was very upsetting for our family. You can imagine, it was terrible for our girls. Charlie did you have a relationship with chris . No, i didnt. I never really i never really knew him. I met him, obviously, you know, but i never knew him. I think hes a very nice guy. Charlie talented actor. Very talented and hes a gentleman. Charlie he sure is. He is a gentleman. I dont i dont see him because i live in california and hes back here. We were in a movie together, which was never released, but i missed him when he came down, we were shooting down in a church in caicos, and i left, and he came in and i missed him. Ive seen him a few times, you know, when we run into each other. Charlie do you ever talk about it . Yeah, we talk about it, but i never had a real big discussion with him about it because you know, he was there and he was there at the services and i mean, he was pretty well shaken up, as we all were. I mean, we were all devastated. Charlie do you still boat . Do you go out boating . No, i gave up the boat. I gave the boat that we had natalie and i had, that was our boat, i gave that to the sea scouts and donated it in her name and they had it for a number of years ago and then somebody bought it, put the name back on it and turned it into a cocktail boat that natalie died on. Charlie oh. It was tragic. Charlie the thing most devastating to me was i mean, she was your wife, she was young, beautiful a mother. Charlie and a mother and for always people will be asking, you know, something that goes not to the heart of how remarkable she was but to, you know, what were the circumstances of the last moments. She was a very remarkable, remarkable lady. A remarkable girl. Charlie is there anything you would love to do you havent done . You know, i really have done a lot of things. Charlie i know you have. I have been involved in a lot of different things. I loved it when i had my ranch. Charlie really . When i was raising my horses and stuff like that. Charlie you dont do that . No, i had to give it up. Charlie but you liked that, being out there, you and the horses . I loved it. You know, i love where i live now, and its all worked out okay for me, charlie. Charlie i tell you what, i feel the same way, that so many people who know you, they cherish the friendship because you are one classy guy. I thank you for coming by. I want to thank you for having me. Charlie jane fonda is here, she has lived many lives over the course of her remarkable life and career. Oscarwinning actress, political activist and bestselling author, deseated a lot of her time to her passion for teen health, work led to the new book called being a teen, sheds light on the physical and emotional intricacies of adolescence. Im pleased to have jane fonda back at the table. Welcome. Good to be here, charlie. Charlie youre interested in everything, but why this for you . Well, i have a real soft spot in my heart for adolescents. Charlie why . Theyre hard to love. laughter its easy to love kids but adolescents get very brickly. P. I had a very hard adolescents, so its hard to imagine for kids who have less opportunity. I ran a childrens camp 15 years in california and started various nonprofits in georgia, the Georgia Campaign for adolescent power and potential and the Jane Fonda Center for adolescent Reproductive Health at university of emory. Charlie you should have been a doctor. Parts of me are attracted to that. For a long time, it wasnt even considered a unique stage of human development. There was childhood and adulthood and now we know that it is a very specific stage of life. Its the gateway to adulthood when the young person moves from concrete thinking to abstract thinking and begins to develop values and their own identity and to be individual and they need a lot of answers and guidance. Charlie why do some rebel and others dont . I dont know, but i know that, for most parents and its worse now than it used to be its hard to be a parent of a teen. Its hard to be a teen, too. Charlie what makes it hard . Well, you have, boys in particular, all this testosterone, which is the hormone that is sexy and its aggressive, and this is coursing through their body at a time when their brain is still under construction especially the prefrontal cortex, which is planning and decisionmaking, so its like putting highoctane jet fuel in a model t ford, can lead to risky behavior. The brain doesnt really mature till 23 or 24, so, you know, there are a lot of pressures for both boys and girls, and they need guidance and they need boundaries and, yet, they give off this vibe to parents that, you know, youre just an old fogey and you dont know anything and dont talk to me, but they really want you to. Charlie one of the things you said in answering if question of one of your great fears in adolescents is you didnt know where to go for answers. They dont know. And very often parents are scared to talk about things and dont know where to begin. A lot of people who have been interviewing me, who have read the book, and obviously theyre grownups and theyre saying, wow, ive learned things i didnt know and this is going to help me talk to my teens, which made me very happy. Charlie could you talk to your dad . Oh, are you kidding . You knew my dad. Charlie yes, i did. Thats what we call a leading question laughter no, bless his heart. I mean, that generation had a really hard time. And i couldnt talk to my mother either. Charlie yeah. You turned out all right. Yeah, ive worked hard to turn out all right. It took me a long time. Charlie did you do for this book what you did for the other books . You uh go talk to everybody you can possibly talk to whos an expert and put it all together and try to make it through prism of your own clarity. Well, you know, i spent, i figured, close to 30 years close to teenagers. Charlie yeah. In california and then in georgia, and, you know, ive talked to groups of girls, i organized groups of boys, i talked to parents about teens, ive read voluminously, so i know a lot from my personal experience with teens how much misinformation there is and how valuable good information is and how it helps them avoid problems. Charlie about your father, whom i did know and admire, you said clearly, but you said that he objectified you, didnt he . Theres a lot of books about the changing body, the plumbing. Charlie right. I wanted to write a book that was more holistic that talks about the developing identity, how to manage the media and the messages that are sent to us, the messages that tell boys dont be sissies and dont ask for directions and be tough and dont show your emotions and dont respect girls, and who tell girls dont be angry and be quiet and be a pleaser. Charlie you wanted to break through all that. Yeah, and body image and sex, all the things that didnt exist when i was a teen sexting, cyberbullying, all those things its hard for kids. Charlie you have also talked about aging. If somebody came along and said you could be 20 again, would you want to be 20 again . Not i cant think of any amount of money that could make me want to go back. Charlie is that right . Yeah. No charlie even if you had some insight from the life you lived. Oh, if i could go back knowing what i know now . Charlie oh, yeah. Yeah, id love to be able to do it over again, but never to go back the way i was. Charlie you had to struggle to get to where you are. Yeah, ive done a lot of work. Charlie because you have faced up at every time you seem to have two qualities. Number one is authenticity. You are who you think you ought to be and do what you think you should do and youre true to yourself. Ive learned lately to be authentic, yeah, but i think it takes work to become who youre supposed to be. Charlie yeah. The t. S. Elliott quote, you spend your life im paraphrasing you spend your life exploring and at the end of your explorations, you arrive back where you started and know it for the first time. Charlie yeah. If i could go back and really know it, then, yeah, id like to go back. Charlie because i read somewhere you said you never wanted to be 20 again. Not the way i was when i was 20, but if i could take my hardearned wisdom back with me, i wouldnt mind having that to do over again with a lot more smarts and, you know, i was not a parent that knew this stuff when my kids were teens. Theyre now in their 40s. I cant be selfrighteous about it. Charlie made mistakes. Yes, i did. Charlie what kind . I was about two years too late talking to them about charlie they knew already. I didnt know how to be an approachable and askable parent, starting quite early. I didnt know how to listen and not be judgmental. Charlie is it different for boys than girls. Its very different for boys. Charlie because to have all the because of all the testosterone. When yall are really young, like five or six, the pressure on you is, you know, to stand up and dont be a sissy and dont be a mommas boy, so you shut down, you bifurcate head from heart and thats all you know. So boys think thats just the way it is. Boys lose their empathy, their heart. Girls lose their voice, they true aw authenticity at puberty, but they have a whole decade before then of, oh, yeah . Who says . And wrestling and climbing trees and things like this. So thats why girls and women tend to be more agents of change because you dont have to scrape so deep to get them back to where they were. Charlie but were so influenced by peers. We talk a lot about that. Charlie i know you do. I have this in my hand. Well, youve read it laughter but one of the things hat i want to say that i want to say because there are going to be parents watching this show, i think its a good idea to ask your children, what kind of person do you want to be . You know, everyone always says what do you want to be when you grow up like what do you want to do . But what kind of person do you want to be . What kind of values . Have them write them down. Because when you write them down, it becomes more cognitive, youre mohex focused. Charlie someone had a saying that said, think about the end of your life, look ahead to it and what would you like to have people say about you not be, but have people say about you. Who would you like to be as a human being and then try to become that person. Thats right, and then it goes back to what you said about the peer pressure. Are the kids youre hanging out with encouraging you in that direction that you say you want to go in, or are they keeping you from being the kind of person you want to be . You know, its this period of time when we have to make young adolescents very conscious of their developing identity and all th the pressures coming at m to make them what they dont want to be so they can resistt er . I never understood it, but people said to me, the child became the man, who they were in the adolescence period shaped who they became. Thats why its so important. Charlie and its so important to understand it yeah. Charlie at the same time, can you look back and say i am jane fonda today because of these events that happened in my life or these relationships that happened in my life . Its harder for me to do that. I am the jane fonda today that i am because i have looked back on all those things and understood them from a distance. Charlie with the help of professionals who you could talk to. With the help of therapy and with the help of whats called doing a life review which is what i did when i wrote my memoirs without knowing, to go book and look at your parents and grandparents and understood why they were the way they were and why they raised you the way they did and find out it had nothing to do with you because youre quite okay and loveable. They had their own issues and did the best they could. Charlie once you found that out, you could look at life in better way sighs three years ago, you said you were the happiest you had ever been. I was way past 50 when i said that. Charlie you were 70. Yeah. Charlie but you said it because you had done such an introspective look at your life thats right. Charlie its a sad thing, once again i mean, people, sometimes its often said, dont look at their life till theyre sick and they worry about losing it. You had the good fortune to do it while you were healthy. But most people never have the kind of event that lead them to look introsuspectively at themselves because theyre on such a treadmill they never think about it. Theyre thinking about all the events that sort of come rushing their way. Yeah, thats why i wrote my memoir the way i did and why ive also written a book called prime time about aging to encourage people to think about, you know, how do you know where youre going if you dont know where you have been . Charlie youre going to receive the Lifetime Achievement award from the afi. Im so honored and thrilled. I burst into tears when i was told i was going to receive that. Charlie and it means so much to you because its a recognition of a lifetime of work. Yeah. You know, i left my profession for 15 years. Ten with ted and five writing my memoir, and the fact i could come back and be honored is tremendous to me. Betty davis asked me to host her afi award. Barbara stanwyck had me give her her award and my dad. Charlie ive heard incredible stories about barbara. Well, look at her movie. Charlie and the relationships i think my dad had an affair with her. Charlie oh. I was sort of told that and hoped it was true. Charlie everybody talks about how smart she was. Some of the same things as katharine hepburn. What to they say. Charlie smart, marching to her own agenda, comfortable in her own skin. I hope thats true. Charlie so what is it you would like for them why does it mean so much . Because it is the profession you grew up in . Its a profession that welcomed you back after the absence . And it is how it has taken so many years of your life, in a sense, or given so many years of your life. Yeah. Whewhen your industry opens its arms to you in that kind of way and all these people that youve worked with come forward and say nice things about you, its just wonderful, at my age, to have that happen. Charlie whats the ultimate wisdom about growing old . Stay active. Stay curious. You know, its much more important to be interested than being interesting. Stay interested. Stay curious and stay active. Charlie but no one does that more than you do, do they . I dont think so. I learn stuff every day. Charlie this book is called being a teen, everything teen girls and boys should know about relationships, about sex, about love, about health, identity and more. If you dont know why this is look at the tragic examples of where peer pressure, whether over the internet or causes kids sometimes the most tragic consequences. Yeah, i know. Charlie because of peer pressure and because of their desperate need to be liked and to be and to feel that youre a part. It is cause the most damage. One of my favorite chapters is about sexual identity, sexual orientation, and, you know, im really proud of that chapter. Its the best one ive read, about charlie how to come to grips with your own sexual identity. Being gay, lesbian, trans, or questioning. Charlie who is melissa. Director of the Jane Fonda Center at the emory school of medicine. Charlie what happens there . For adolescent Reproductive Health and we develop all kinds of curricula that help kids know what a healthy relationship looks like. Some curricula directed exclusively to boys to reduce dating violence, for example, all different kinds of curricula that get used nationwide. Its a fabulous place. Charlie thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Charlie jane fonda, book is called being a teen, everything teen girls and boys should know about relationships, sex, love, health, identity and more. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org this is nightly Business Report with Tyler Mathisen and susie gharib. Brought to you in part by thestreet. Com. Featuring stephanie link who shares her investment strategs, stock picks and Market Insights with action alerts plus. The multimillion dollar portfolio she manages with jim cramer. 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