Of months, and then you scatter, and you may never see these people again. Rose bill murray for the hour, again. Captioning sponsored by captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Come in, ray. I saw it i saw it i saw it its right here, ray. Its looking at me. Hes an ugly little spud, isnt he . I think he can hear you, ray. Dont move. It wont hurt you. Aarrgghh arrgghh what happened . Are you okay . He slimed me. Thats great actual physical contact. You can move . Ray, ray, come in, please. I feel so funky. Rose bill murray has had a remarkable career, starting with the improv at second city in chicago. He won an emmy award in 1977 for saturday night live. He starred in many popular films include caddyshack stripes and then lost in translation. He can currently be seen in George ClooneysMonuments Men. Whats going on . This could be a bit of a problem. A bit . Heres a thought we put down our guns. You go your way. We go our way. No hard feelings. He doesnt speak any english. Not a word. Okay. Youre just going to sit down . Yeah, why dont we all just sit down for a second. Rose later this among he appears in the grand boud fest hotel. He is a pop culture icon and has been called by the new yorker one of the worlds most appealing hipsters. I spoke with him recently, and we talked about many things, including the life that he lives. What was the attraction of Monuments Men for you . Well, the story is a story that most people had never heard, the story of a like a core of like a clique of a platoon of guys going out to hunt down the stolen art. Rose who are artists rather than soldiers . Who are artists rather than soldiers, mature men, not enlistees, or draftees, but guys past the warrior soldier stage asked to join the effort and dp on this hunt. Rose we forget in times like this in war that one of the casualties of war is cultural treasures. Right. Well, iraq was a big one, right . Rose exactly. Where we sort of cleaned house in iraq. We won the war in 95 minutes or something but their museums were looted and robbed and i dontn6 know if that stuff has ever been tracked down. Rose a lot of it has, i think. But thats something that really goes. And things disappeared. And with the you know, with the systematic looting of the western europe museums by hitler and his people, they really took a lot of stuff, as you know, there was a story just a few months ago, theyre still finding it. What did they say that was worth, 1. 5 billion one guy. Rose yeah, one guy had done that. So theres the story. Its a greatistic based on a book by robert edcell, i think. Did you read the book . Yes. Rose did you read the book before you accepted the role . No, george told me the story of the movie a year before while eating, you know, pasta and salad. And i just went, oh, god, this sounds so good. But then, you know, i thought, i wish george would have asked me to be in that movie it sounded so good. And nine months later he said, are you busy . Rose and you said . Im not busy. Im busy but im not that biz gle did you like the character . Yeah, it was great. It was sort a composite. We didnt use anyones name. It was a hand gull of men. The character was written by grant hezlot of, and it was a wonderful character. Every actor in the movie has great stuff to do. Every actor is given a couple of home rub swings throughout the film. So its really made for you to have great turns, great scenes while youre telling a story. An interesting story. Rose and how does george work as a director . George is extremely well prepared. George comes to work in a great mood every day, you know. Its the lightest set ive ever been on, really. I usually feel like i have to be the one that keeps things light. You know, im always trying to calm people down or loosen them up. George was just and grant, they were both hilarious all the time. And you put all those people in one place, we got more tall tales and lies and stories to tell, as john says it the making of the movie is you know, youd stop. Youd shoot a scene and then youd stop and balderdash for 25 minutes and just laugh and really you laughed until you hurt because people were throwing out their best stories and throw them over the of the previous one. Rose you cant top this, can you . You could. And people really did top them. It was really fun. Rose hes a prankster, too. Hes famous for playing a lot of pranks. And he didnt do so much on this one. He had one good one on matt damon. Matt damon was going to renew the vows of his wife, and george told the seamstresses on the film to take in his pants a quarter of an inch every two weeks. So hed go away and come back and put pants on and all of us knew, but everyone was you know. Dead faced. Dead panning looking at him. And you see just the look on his fairfax like it was the location was good, too. Well, berlins pretty great. I dont know if you spent any time there. But its really nice. Its really a bubbling place. Its an artist colony, and very unique even in germany. Sort of like lost in texas is very different from texas. Berlin is very different than the rest of germany. Expawlt artists of europe flee there. Its inexpensive. Its very reasonable to live. People live sort of like socialists. There are the squatters and so forth. I know an american guy who was like a socialist here who moved to berlin and he rent outs his sort of little place and he squats somewhere else. Rose i know a lot of architects have done buildings there. There was a sense of great almost one of the great talents for architecture anywhere, because after the reunification and everything they were really building and had opportunities to build great things. Yeah, theres a lot of new stuff. And the old stuff its funny thing is even tho i would think berlin would be a wreck. They bombed the heck out of it. Its a fairly pretty good sized city, and what they didnt bomb is completely intact because on the east german pat of town nothing changed. No buildings changed. Nothing was built. So all apartment buildings are beautiful. You say my gosh, look at this. You see a row of town houses in new york and say what a great street. There are lots of streets like that in berlin. The night life is night and day life. They go hard. The germans would say, were going to dance night. And dance night lasts 41 hours. They go out and go for a day and a half it lasts. Rose how do you decide if you want to make a movie or not. Sometimes the people involved. Rose like george. Or wes anderson. He says, do you want to do the job . I say sure, what time. Rose if wes called youd be there . Yes. Rose if jorm called again, youd be there. All of us would be there with george. It was wonderful to be that well taken care of. Rose does it make it difficult if hes also one of the stars of the movie because hes acting and directing . Well and in this case he wrote the screen play. In that case you would think that would be a problem and with another actor it might be a problem but what george does with a movie is selfless. He does the grunt work. He does the plot line. Hes telling the facts. He does all that stuff. Those arent really huge, emotional moments hes got. Its like selfless, serving stuff, and he gives us all the merrygoround stuff. We all have the great stuff and hes doing the service work. Rose do you want to direct . I codirected one with howard franklin, a movie called quick change and i thought i would do it every year for rest of my life but then life changed. But id like to do it. I think if you can direct a movie you should direct a movie if youre able to. Ill probably do it again when life slows down a little bit, has a little more space. Rose your life is interesting. Its not a carefully thoughtout, wellplanned life. What a nice way of saying that. I never heard anyone be so compassionate towards me. Thats really nice. Rose well, its true. It has the additional advantage of being true. Yeah. Rose you know . Well, im a little bit im a little bit seat of my pants. I try to be just alert, you know, and available. I try to see thats a good point be available so that youre not so on the tread nil that you dont see or take advantage of something. Yes. And i mean more than just for work. I mean available for work. But available just for life to happen to you. You know, that were living this life. Were in this life. And if youre not available, sort of ordinary time goes past and you didnt live it. The day passes and you didnt live it. But if youre available, then life you jump up dimensions. Life becomes much more full, and youre really living it. Rose i mean, its that old maxim about half the game is being in the arena, by saying yes and being in the arena, you can experience so much more. Well yeah. And yes to life. Its like, yes, this is this is not easy for me to pay attention. This is not easy life, you know, and its not easy to really engage all the time. Its so much easier to zone, you know, do to get distracted, to daydream, to do something. But to be available and to be there, then things because things are happening all the time to us, and if youre not aware, you miss them. You know but you seem to be a guy who resident a lot, too. I mean, youre really aware. In reading about you i was struck by the point that someone asked you who youd really like to meet and you said einstein and Gregory Mendel all the stuff about about genealogy. So these are two scientists. I get excited about science stuff because theyre sort of laws. Theyre laws of nature. And if theyre laws of nature, theyre sort of like heavenly laws and theyre sort of laws inside of you, too. So if you could get someone to tell you, explain a little bit and crack your head just turn your skull a plilt bit so you heard something a little differently. It just came in your ear differently and landed differently, youd understand something more. Life. Rose where do you live . Right now i live in South Carolina. Rose why . Well, life took me there. Life took me there, and so thats where my sons are, and thats where i am. Rose you like South Carolina . Yes, i really do like South Carolina. I didnt choose to go there, and i kind of i went but i love it there now. I really like it there. The people are kind, and the place is beautiful. Rose a good place to be a parent. Yes. There is its easier. Its easier than being a parent in new york was. Being a parent in new york was quite a bit harder. Rose because i read somewhere that when youre in l. A. , you bunk at georges house. Well, ive done that, but no, bunking at georges house wherever georges house is, is always a pretty good place to be. Its easy. Its easy. Yeah. But where you are you know, i like to go i like to go around america. I like it. Were going to go on this little trip now. Were going to go to berlin. Were going to do a press junket. Were going to berlin, milan, london and paris. And you tell people i have a week, and ive got to go to work. Thats my job. Rose you told me george allowed you to fly in and do the movie and then fly out. So you had it was spectacular. They allowed me to go back and forth from berlin to South Carolina every two weeks so i could keep my house together, keep the guys rolling, keep the place spinning, keep those guys going and still do the job. He made it for everyone. Mine was maybe the most difficult, but he i never had anyone do that for me. Rose do you look for when you look at what youre going to do next, i mean, are you actually out there letting people know that id really like to be making movies . No. No. No. You know, and i quit every once in a while. I sort of retire. Rose or you vow youre going to quit after certain movies because you think one is really great and how could i ever top that . I made a movie called broken flowers and i thought i cant do anything better than that. He wrote a beautiful script. He directed it beautifully. He edited all my lousy stuff out. It was perfect. I just thought i gotta stop. I should stop right now. I should get out like john elway and get out. And i thought now ill look for that other career and i looked around. And i have no other skills, charlie. Rose thats tough. I cant do anything else. This is it. Rose ive interviewed some people boxers, for example, sugar ray leonard. I said, why are you coming back . Because he had made a lot of money and managed it well. He had all the money, had no problem. You know what he said to me, its what i do. Its what i know, thats why. I remember having the conversation with him the night he first made 30 million. And i sad, man, you should quit. You look good. I can understand you. Dont box again. And he came back twice more after that. Rose i know, i know. Because thats what he knew. Thats right. I dont have i dont i dont think i can quit now. And i really like doing it. Rose i dont think i can quit now because you love doing it . I really like the acting the action of it. I like how i i have to be myself to do it correctly. I have to really work at its the best i am is when im working because its you know, you talk about being present and talk about being alert, aware, and everything, but i know that because its going to be on screen, im going to get to see myself failing to be alert and aware. So it really is such a strong, powerful reminder to work at it, you know, to really be just in the game, to be there. So i like it. And i enjoy i like the whole gypsy mentality of the movie business where you get together with a bush of people. You live very intimately for a couple of months and then you scatter and you may never see these people again but in that short time the intensity of the experience. Absolutely. Rose while youre there. Very intense, very close, people just really slave. Theres no limit to how hard you can work on a film. I used to really think that about not only film. I realize its like that about parenting, too. You can work so hard on a movie. Theres no limit to how hard you can go, and you get in this harness with other people that are working hard, and its exciting. You know, like with these guys here, they all know that. So it was like, cool. Youd see someone you know, they made a big thing about were in the snow and working in the mountains, Something Like that. Cut. We have to go to the next scene. And john goodman and i pick up sandbags and boxes and start walking. What are they doing . Were going to the next site. Were all in this together and this is what we do, how we do it. Rose are you still learning . I had never been in a movie with a bunch of movie stars before. It was very different to see that, to see how you go. With george you do one or two takes, good actors, you got it pretty much. But it was interesting how the spacing theres sort of a different spacing. Everyones everyones tempo is just a little bit slower, a little its like we were talking about professional golfers. Their tempo is slower and smoother. And thats like real bigtime actors, their tempo is slow and smooth, and to be in a group where everyone is slow and smooth like that. It was different to have everyone youre watching. Youre absorbing. Yes, youre always getting something. Its fun to watch someone like Jon Jean Goodman who is such a natural actor, and yet it takes work. People say, hes not acting. Hes just being himself. Well, its hard to be yourself. Its hard to be yourself. Show me you know, its impossible. Its the hardest job there is. Its harder than anything to just be yourself. Its so hard. Rose when i did that little small part with george he said, you know, you do a great charlie rose. And i thought thats maybe a compliment. It is a compliment, it is a complimn . And im sure he meant it that way. Its kind its a joyous thing to its fun to be here, but its fun to work with people that are enjoying their jobs. You enjoy your job. I dont know how many years youve done this job, but you know more than 25. Okay, and yet for tu, you light up when the camera turns on. Its as fresh as it was when i first started doing it. And the excitement and the interest and all of that, and because its unpredictable, too. You dont know where its going to do. Yes, and you get to meet a huge range of people, an enormous section section if you dont learn if you dont learn something doing what i do, theres something wrong with you. Youre lucky youre luckier than hell. Rose thank you very much. Ill say my prayers tonight. Yeah. Rose so you made your mark in second city. Uhhuh. Rose improvisational. I assume thats great training for what you have done with your life. That was a perfect foundation. Yes. I would ive been really lucky. People say, how can i make it in show business . I say, im only the luckiest guy in the world. Im not the right person to ask. I was really lucky. My brother, brian, was in second city ahead of me. I got to watch he and harold ramos, and joe flaherty and john belushi ahead of me, and i was just hiding so i didnt get in trouble in my house and went to theater to watch these guys with no intention of ever doing it myself. Rose no intention of doing it yourself . No, no. Rose what did you think you wanted food . I wanted to be a doctor at one time but you had to study and that wasnt going to happen. I didnt know what i was going to go. I had Trouble Holding jobs because they wanted you there on time. That wasnt going to work. Rose they want you to play by the rules. This acting, working in the theater. We didnt have to get to work until 9 00 at night. Rose thats right. So i learned a lot just watching those guys. And when i finally did begin to try it myself, id learned so much just by observing and feeling what they were doing, i wasnt i didnt really peak at the second city. I was just learning it. I was sort of the new guy for a while and, you know, i was just i was just getting i was just getting kind of good. And then i got this is the night live job. And it was another ensemble group, working with not only talented actors but writers this time, too. So you got to use your writing skills and your acting skills. And this was it was a great secondary education. I mean i started at second city and then i went to saturday night live. If you did saturday night live for five years, you were able to do asking. You learned a lot. And all those pros, all those guys on the set, when we knot that job, all those guys had done your show of shows sid caesar, all these things. Theyd seen it all. Theyd done it all. We were just kids, and they would tell you something and it was an amazing education. Rose timing is important, i assume. Im not going to make the joke. Rose okay. On the flip side of that. It would seem to me if you do comedy, you develop a higher sense of time, than if you simply had nothing but dramatic experience. Thats a serious question. Yes, and a fair one. It seems like you know, at second city we didnt call ourselves comedians even though we were funny. Rose exactly. We were actors. Rose exactly, comedic actors or not even comedic. Being funny you have to be able to play straight to be funny, which sounds like a paradox but its not. You have to be able to play straight to play funny. If you can play straight to play funny, playing straight is not a big thing at all. Like lots socalled funny people can be very good in a dramatic role. I mean, i started making comedies because i came out of saturday night live and those are the jobs i would get asked to do. And after a while people asked me to play straighter parts and now i play straight parts and people say, you made a change in your life. Of no this is what i get asked to do. I only do the ones i like, and lately people have been asking me to do straight things or straight things that have a little humor to them. Rose do you wish theyd ask you to do comedy. I dont wish that. But sometimes i feel like i want to do something really funny. I feel like im going to do something funny soon. And usually when i think that way, it comes. Rose see thats a great thing to have. You can just wish something and it will happen. Well, it starts with a wish, doesnt it . Rose yes. I had a wish i could do a movie that was sort of romaptic, and then i was asked to do lost . Translation which is sort of a romantic movie. Its about love. Even though i wasnt in love with scarlet johannsen she was in love and struggling and i was in love and struggling and so it was really about love. Rose nominated for an oscar. You thought you were going to win it. I really did think. I won all the prizes on the way to it. Rose you were the guy. I had some funny things i was going to say. I was ready to go. What were you going to say . I was going to say, qhi heard i was nominated with and id name these other people i thought i really had a pretty good chance. You know, i thought no one had ever give than speech. And people you know, it was great because i didnt you know, i didnt have agents. I didnt have managers. I didnt have any of that stuff. So i wouldnt have to give an ordinary speech of thanking everyone. I could just entertain things. If youre on a show with a billion people, show up and do something. Give those people in bomb bay this is my moment to speak to a billion people on the plan the. Im going to thank my hair dresser . What . What my personal trainer. Rose i want to thank, somebody else, i cant remember who it is. And then they forget and theyre reading it off a note. An actor reading his line off a piece of paper. Rose how disappointed were you at the moment . Well, i was just sort of surprised. I was surprised you thought you waited i was really surprised. Rose because you had heard it before. I wasnt angry or anything. I was just like, what . And i well, thats the academy. They do thiks funny sometimes. But i found later, about six months later, i realized that i had come down with something. I sort of, like, that prizewinning stuff, about the prizes, that id sort of had, like, a lowgrade infection of liking winning the prize, andmenting to win the prize. And i thought oh, good, because i awb see and im sure you do when people win the prize, and then the next couple of years they really struggle because theyre sort of stuck like, hey, im an Academy Award winner, baby. So now what i do do . Rose i was to see an Academy Awardwinning script. Then they think they have to find a script thats an Academy Awardwinning scriment. That possibly could have happened to me. It was months later where i went look at me. That happened to me. Rose are you a confident guy who says when you saw that script, saw that opportunity, i can nail this, within me is the capacity with this script to do an Academy Awardwinning performance. I didnt think of it as Award Winning but i knew i was going to nail that character. Rose how did you know . You are not man, charlie. You are boy. When you are a man you know. Sofia i found her just charming, just wonderful, and selfassured, and i thought okay ill throwing in with her and she me the script and it was clean. It was only about 95 payments, 94 pages Something Like that. Screen writes can be i thought this is it. Its all there. Eg is there upon and i can bring a little bit more to this, too and i know what shes talking about here. I know what shes talking about. Rose what was she talking about . She was talking about Emotional Intelligence and what it means to really be in love, to really love someone, and to be torn with the idea of being faithful to it and struggling with that and seeing yourself in that moment. Because youre in front of that moment of life. How am i its like st. Peter deny the jesus. St. Feature of a pretty solid guy, but even st. Peter chickened pout. Yes, he it. Any man or woman can chick ken out in the face of pressure. And here were people with pressure and how can they dole with it . So instead of lets the they threw their feelings at each other without demand or responsibility to congress each others route. Rose what did you whisper in her ear . I told someone once, i told someone the true once, and they didnt believe me. Have you thought about it since then or has she told you . Has who told me . Well, i whisper it in her ear but moment happened. This it actual low happened, i was micrs, and ava cabrera, who is the script supervisor, and sofia had this moment where they look at her and said you dont have to say anything. You dont have to hear anything at the same moment and i had the same feeling from 60 yards away. It doesnt marry what i gay. It a wonderful mystery. Those two really and then i heard them say it, and i was like, thats right. This is how its going to roll. Rose when people want to hire you, what do you think theyre hiring . What do you think theyre looking for finish that one. Im hanging around for that one. Rose i certainly hope so. Rch the experience and craft and talent. Is there i mean, is there a something within you and your persona and they say, i need that persona in my film . Well, i think i get some work now because one thing i tried to do is not be sentimental, is try to really just squeeze all the schmaltz out of everything. I try not to allow it. Ive been relatively successful doing that. So if someone has a script that walks a tightrope of sentimentality, they can ask me, i will be committed to not falling into that pit. I think thats one thing. I feel like when they hire me they get the whole thing which includes goofing around on the set. Rose youre trying to leaven it up or thats who you are . Ive heard stories about you that are youll be walking by where theyre doing a pickup basketball game or stick ball or something else, and you just want to go over there and get in their face and say, let me play. Thats true. I can jump in. Thats the available thing i talked about. Rose how about being available to lifes experiences. Im the same way. Just a sense of being able to know i can get inside of whatever kind of experience, whatever theyre doing and make them feel its perfectly natural for you to be there. The jobs it also looks like im game, like ill try some stuff, and the sort of range of the movies ive done has moved around a little bit. I have tried some different things. And they know ive come from an improv area. I can do that. You upon, its im a maturabilitiomatureactor now u dont embarrass yourself or make a fool of yourself later on, people will contact you later. Like theyre younger directors, and ive done casting myself and you say, theres soandso, he did that thocial. And you cite some movie that should be set fire to. If you dont make those movies s that can be burned he hasnt sold himself, sold his soul for money and fame sphwhr. I think for whatever it works, theres at some sense of integrity in the core you get a since theres something very real of that. The man who, as you said, squeezed all the schmaltz out of it. And i ive learned something. Living. And it works all the time, it works in life. People say how did you get in there. I can get from this side of the street to the other. I dont get in trouble. Rose you into into a place where youre not invited but youre able to look them in the face and say, i believe. If you are there to share and contribute, people will let you go. Its like that feeling last night we went to the movie prenear, and then theres a big party afterwards and a the lo of noises and alcohol. Then you want to go out and get a bite to eat. And it was a thing where you looked and saw there were a handful of people in there. The guy driving me the car said do you want me to go in and check it. I say the let me try. I walked in and looked at the maitre d, and the look was like, oh, theres this guy. And i said, hello. I was just wondering if youre still open. Thats a couple of us, and we were thinking about, we were wondering if you had any food. Any food, its a restaurant, right. And he already sent two people away so dont count on your on that. It was just great. That was kind of fun. They could have goodbye home, but they were like maybe this will be fun. It ended up poog a lot of fun. Every week clouded around and we had fun with poo with the cooksd waitresses. That fun thing of getting in, its like theres no limit to how much munand how much you can go, and how much you can play. You can play with somebody and they will open up and then you can maybe them a hero and theyll love that. There were our propects were not that good at midnight trying to find. What is it. Ification qnl. I got a lot of pressure to do rushmore. I had agents down lot of people. And i kept getting copies of bottle rockets. I have the largest single direct of boft roarer may, okay we were going to set up a meeting with you and lewis. Alan said well twrng i think you should. Thats okay. I dont have to meet with them. I have read the script, and he knows exactly what he wants to do. Theres nothing this this world to stop me worrying with my girl i found out i was wrong i found out i was wrong she just get out lying. Id never seen that before in a script. The script was so specific he knew exactly what he was going to do. Wait until you see the next one, the grand budapest hotel. This is like a time scare bill board hes coming into up to soon. Yeah. And hes just great fun. I mean, weve become great friend, and i really love him. I love him. And he makes the meg namovies his life. He really makes the living and he has his own style, his own personal style. Yeah, he has his own fashion sense, and he tries to dress us that way. Everyones cuffs are this short. The pants cutses never. Rose what about the life of having all these people work for you, agents and the like, that you said oh, no, thats what ill do have a phone, and if i want to call you back, ill take it back and i dont need it seriously. I remember hearing ellen bir sten say i was having a dream i was involved in a lot. And i realized it was a froofd people. Id be in my home and the phone would ring and it would ring and ring, like, 30 times, 40 times. And then it would stop and youd go who in the hell was there. Three minute later the phone would cringe and it to be 20 or sml thing. Who is this this . Hello, is he there for michael. You have to get another job. Their job was to let the phone ring 6,000 times in the home if somebody says call in three minute, theyll call everywhere. Rose you decide you to had all that. I had michael oweaps remember the greatest agent, and he was my monster. He was great. Hes a famous character but hes my character, and when hes on your side, life hes a weapon and hes really something. I loved him and i was great. Rose he became an executive. He became all kind of things. So it just changed, and the other people were lovely people and it isnt the same them i started looking at it upon more closely and realize what they want to do is cror at yuck, you know, i i dont know. Rose today if they want to reach you, they know theres a number some people get frustrated they cant get in all that i really wanted. But its just its just cheen your life out per id rather choose my own distraction than have anyone else. Rose youre in charge of your own life in a big way. Rose more than most. Rose you have been the sense. Im getting there. Whats not there that you want to get to. Itid like to wake up better. Rose waking up is hard. I had a recommendation to look at your eye in the world and see how good it is chec id hear a good thing one day. I go to the soulful black church, the Catholic Church in charlston sometimes where the music is fine. Wh where music is better. And the preaching can be kind of good. And we had a best bn l, what do you want me to do. That he was a great feeling, i think, what do you want me to do. So when you look at where you are and hom dee today. Caddy chaking. And theres this wonderful thing about it. There was a guy named warren cousins, editor offe offed is review and he had a life threpg threat thing news and he would put up smingz that caddyshack does as a therapeutic experience experience. I guess i can tell the story. You know who stevie nicks is from my house. I like hir lawrd, and she saspjn was going have hard time once and i watched that movie and watched it for a week or something. I just kept watching that movie and it cheered meuch so much. And i thought if i did that to someone is off an important people. Thats what he did. And he healed himself. Laughter is the best immediate. Isnt that what it said . Rose when you think about movies like that and ghost busters are those movie of a different era than today and nobody is going to make them . Has comedy and comedic movie gone to a different place . If i could be sort of constructively critical. Rose of me. No, not of you. Of what i feel about the funny ones. I feel like some of the premises are so unrealistic in a way, you know, that it doesnt hold a whole you know, you have to be able to engage with the characters. And if the premises are so big and so such a heavy load, you cant hang them on a character. You cant hang them on a person so you dont really react and respond to the character any longer. Its just the gags and the situations. You dont really get the characters so much. You dont feel like theyre driving it. That theyre pulling you into the stuff. But there is like bridesmaids i thought was a wonderfully funny movie. I thought the premise was so good, bridesmaid, right, a powerful premise but the characters were so good. Like kristin wigg trying to be in love with the cop. That was so really, you committed, you gauges. Lb you cant make me believe this didnt happen. Rose have you ever turned down movies you wished youd made. No, i turned down movie they knew were going to be successful. Rose because they had all increedients like airplane. I thought this is going to work, i just didnt you know, and there have been things i knew someone there are a lot of movies that they have passed on and people have made and had Great Success but they werent for me. Rose tell me what it is that you want that you dont have. Id like id like to be more consistently here, you know. Id like to really get on id like to just and i know its not probably ever maybe possible, but because its so improbable and so impossible, i would just like to really see how long i could last as being really here, you know, really in it, really alive in the moment. And you see people i would like to live to be old. So i think i have a chance. That would be my only chance. Its like you know, a golfer wants to shoot his age. I better live to be 100 because thats my only shot. Rose oh, no. Thats one of my great dreams, too. But go ahead. Id like to be more here all the time and id like to see what i could get done, what i could do if i really didnt cloud myself with automatic know if i were able to is no t distracted, to not change channels in my mind and body. So i would just you know, im my only channel, you know, just really here and always with you. You could look at me and go, okay, hes there. Theres someone there. And i coul could you know howu look in the mirror, you dont think about it. You could look in the mirror and oh, theres that guy. And you would catch yourself, the state you were in when you looked in the mirror and you could make a face and toughen yourself up, or sand human yourself up, or whatever you do. When you catch yourself in that mirror, you see the state youre in. Are you happy . Are you sad . Are you confident . Are you rosy . Are you beleaguered . Are you here . And most of the time youre not. Youre just like oh, oh. Its almost like you want to look away. Its like thats not me there. Thats what im doing right now but its not necessarily me. Rose what is necessary for you to get there . Well. Its all contained in your body. Everything youve got. Your mind. Your spirit. Your soul. Your emotions. Its all contained in your body. All the prospects. All the chances you ever had. I keep thinking of the Clint Eastwood mind, you kill a man and you kill every opportunity he ever had. Rose i often think about lives and say what might have happened if that person had lived. Right. Like think about i mean, belushi. Rose exactly. Just a week ago, hes been dead as long as hes been alive now. Hes been dead now as long as hes been alive. And you think thats a funny sand dial to put in front of yourself. You flip that thing over, and its done. Its that its that wish to you know, its a wish, right . Its really a wish. You ghoata you gotta dream not dream but you gotta wish big. You gotta wish big. And id like to go id like to see what i could do. I got sort of a drunken phone call from a friend of mines sister who i really like. Shes really funny and she drinks alone. She calls you in the middle of the night and i was like oh, boy. You ever get a call from somebody who is not their best. And she was show charlie and so lovely. And she said, you have no idea how much you could do, billed. You could do so much. I never had anyone talk like that. It was funny. It was a drunken phone call in the middle of the night and i l. To her for 40 minutes or so, 45 minutes i i was sound asleep. But it was really like it came from the other side, you know. It felt like it. It was sort of a voice that was sort of intoxicated, like one of the one of the visionaries, i visionary speaking to you . The night coming to you in your dream. And i, you know, i hope to remember that kind of thing. You just try to remember those things, that encouragement, you know. Rose i suspect you know whatever she was saying to you, you knew it somewhere pup do be thatted in of you. It resonated. It rang a bell inside of me, a bell that rings a lot that says, remember, bill, come back. Remember. This is your life. This is the only one youve got. As we always say to my one brother, this is not a dress rehearsal. This is your life. 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