A controversial extradition bill the bill was withdrawn 3 months later by which time many protesters had been arrested tear gassed and pepper sprayed Now the protesters are making 5 demands an independent inquiry into alleged police brutality and misconduct the release of arrested protesters that the city's leader resigned that there be universal suffrage and that the government retract its designation of the protests as riots for n.p.r. News I'm Anna Marie Evans in Hong Kong u.n. Secretary general and Tonio good Harish says the world has the scientific knowledge and the technical means to limit global warming but is lacking political will public opinion is waking up everywhere young people are showing remarkable leadership and mobilize ation. More and more cities financial institutions and businesses are committing to the 1.5 degree passed away speaking at head of a 2 week global climate summit in Madrid could Harish also called on countries to take advantage of the vast possibilities offered by renewable energy this is n.p.r. . Composer Irving Bergie who helped popularize Caribbean music and composed hit songs for Harry Belafonte they Kingston Trio and other groups in the fifty's and sixty's has died at the age of 95 the B.B.C.'s Richard Howells has this remembrance that. It's a cheering that takes you straight to the sunny shores of the Caribbean based on a traditional Jamaican folk song Day-O. Or the banal about song was one of the 8 songs that compose for Harry Belafonte's hit album Calypso it was the 1st disc to sell a 1000000 copies. 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It is Thanksgiving weekend and if your family is anything like ours you've managed to exhaust every topic of conversation other than politics and you're getting dangerously close to turning your in-laws into a human turducken So in order to forestall disaster fights the rewriting of wills why not spend the next hour with us as we revisit some favorite segments and bring you some things you've never heard before or you can tell your father in law exists to lead what you think about presidential golf trips it's your funeral let's start with an interview with a living a while the actress who directed her 1st feature film this year book smart Peter ask her what she's best known for I think it is probably have but you never know there's time fans everywhere they come out of the woodwork you know I do there's sort of more of the nerdy variety and there are also the most awesome I love the front fans everywhere but I have to say I drinking buddies is a movie I did not take on yes with our very own just wonderful and yes and I love it very much and I have to give it up for the 6. Microbrew scene which is really off them and I missed it this is great and. Obviously as we've mentioned you've done some pretty serious Hollywood projects and Joe Swanberg a local filmmaker here in Chicago he's famous for shooting ultra low budget movies he doesn't script them he just says hey guys this is your character sit here I'm turning in the camera go yeah that's right yeah and did you enjoy working that way Oh my God I loved it especially because we were drunk 100 percent. I tried to emulate it with book smart with less fear because we had young people he said So let's talk about the movie you're this isn't the 1st thing you directed you've done some short films but this is your 1st feature which is very exciting one of the things I've read is that it's very intimidating to be a movie director because even a low budget movie there's a lot of money there's a lot of people who are all looking to you to be the leader did you have to struggle with that was that tough for you or did you fall naturally into the role I thought to be naturally into it because I've been on that for 17 years and I was ready to take the reins you know I was ready to be the pot so it wasn't too hard I enjoyed that part had you been on sets doing all those other projects you've been doing sitting there the whole time going down that I should be in charge increasingly Yes. Yeah this movie book smart it's about 2 young women they're about to graduate high school it's also very contemporary If I'm not mistaken it takes place right now the spring of 2019 Yes that's right and you were to me a very young person but you're not that young so did you have to learn stuff about like what high school kids are like now and how they were different when when you were graduating high school yes basically they're just a lot better now they're much smarter they're much cooler they're much more evolved they're much more fluid. And I had to learn some of their cool lingo because I am 100000 years old and I had to kind of catch up on how they talk and they had cool window like for the longest time I didn't know what they meant what they were like red faced with no. Why do they. Say that means outfit so I pass that on to you I'm sorry the word. If I could say like like brought this rat fit rabbit man yeah did they ever tell you anything that made you think they were just pulling your leg. I mean they were the whole time but they were very very kind to me I have to ask you this is a movie as is given away by the title about 2 rather brainy girls in high school who in fact decide at one point they haven't had enough fun they've been so brainy and working so hard was that what you were like in high school I went to like the are committed to high school just the nerdiest of the Nerds and I was one of them and I proud to be but we didn't have fun parties and most everyone else did and I just wasn't made aware but. I met in the movie about it in order to go to the party yeah I had to catch everyone to pay them to be there. So the movie has come out it's gotten great reviews I hope a lot of people see it let's assume that it is the success that it seems to be do you know what you want to do next are you going to try to do one of those big superhero movies next that seems to be that means we're going to be fun wouldn't it well you've done those big movies you could handle it I can do it I can handle it at times I have you know good snacks and good lad music I could make it happen but you know I will say the statistics are pretty grim for female filmmakers So I think that all of us ladies should step back and start telling stories as much as we possibly can. Because. I really while we have in fact asked you here to play a game that we're calling a levee a wild have some Wild Wings That's right we're going to ask you about Buffalo Wild Wings of the. Casual Dining franchise that was named in your honor by some drunk ice were really into Cowboys and Aliens. Answer 2 out of 3 questions correctly and you win our prize for one of our listeners the weight waiter of their choice during their voicemail Bill who is a Livia wild playing for. Denver Colorado All right you ready to do this yes I am all right here's your 1st question though the star of the menu of Buffalo Wild Wings is obviously the wings that's not all they have to offer you could also order which of these at one of their restaurants a one gallon bag of fountain soda for only $799.00 b. a Cocktail called the gin and tonic and ranch dressing. Or c. Chicken for arms. I know I'm just really hoping that bag or the back of a bag of fountain soda. That's. The numbers that come with what I like on the diet and some so. Are you choosing that I'm sorry I think you're right Olivia That's right. Very good it's good for parties Yes Next question you can catch almost any sport you want on the many T.V.'s at your local Buffalo Wild Wings but at one location in Alabama you can also do what a attend a church service be hunt game in the very big backyard or see have paint ball fights with other customers. Wow. My God. I'm going to go with church you're absolutely right Olivia. Of course the church service at this particular Buffalo Wild Wings begins before the restaurant opens you can have beer and wings during service however they encourage you to stick around and enjoy it after the service because the communion wine also come in a bag that's really. All right here's your last question you can be perfect in this as you have been in so many other things here's your last question March Madness is the busiest time the Buffalo Wild Wings writes. The restaurant is always looking for ways to make the customers experience even more enjoyable including which of these a they set up booths with sports bookies to help you drop your brackets be an on site therapist for those suffering from actual clinical March Madness. Or see the jewel stool a cool bar stool for men who got the sack to me so they could skip work and watch more games. I don't run so much time ago a year or 2 with a the booze with sports bookies now is actually the jewel school. Because you're. In the d.m.z. Venia so many men schedule of a sec Timmy's around March Madness this is true so they could enjoy the enforced rest in front of the t.v. So why not entice them down the Wild Wings right. Marketing genius. Bill how did it live you wild do on our quiz He won 2 out of 3 that's a big way. Graduations you should feel good about this I could break you I got a lifetime supply of wings and I'm hoping and I think you should go into your nearest Buffalo Wild Wings and say hello I'm Livia while I would like some wings and see what happens. Ok I'm gonna go do it live it while the new film book Smart is in theaters now go see it it's charming and funny as all get out a living a while thank you so much for joining us and maybe. Some . If there's one thing that our listeners love it's what we've come to call Paula rants that's when Paula Poundstone gets very very exercised about some topic or another it actually has cardio benefits here is a particularly a robot rant from earlier this year. About a particular n.p.r. News report with guest host Tom Papa there was a n.p.r. Piece one time when Colorado 1st legalized pot they also came up with this really stupid idea to do with thing like this one do it was like a pot dispensary into Earth. Which is just so painfully stupid it's hard to conceptualize but like a vehicle comes and picks up the customer and the n.p.r. Reporter rode around and and they begin and the woman that gets in the car forget her name but to Susan Stamberg No no the client. Got no it was it you said they go to the 1st dispensary and the woman was so enthusiastically 60 years old so enthusiastic and she goes in for some reason the reporter did go in with her but she comes out they go Well what did you well I like I got this chart clinic at this point I get this like already so much. That you know I'm going to get the car to go to another place and the lady had been very chatty at 1st and now all you hear all of the audio was the woman laughing uncontrollably. But it was like creepy because she was like. I'm. The reporter could he be consistent they had to disappear were on their way to another dispensary and that they had to. Discontinue the trip because she had become incommunicable. I'm. I'm not a trip to Colorado coming up before I heard that and he said I thought I thought you know maybe I could take this is legal now and I could do that thing when I went there and I heard that piece and I never. I don't know how I feel about the whole we do. Legal thing I live in California and when you used to be if you smelled weed you were like oh I'm someplace cool this is a concert now like I'm in a nursing home visiting my grandma I love the hour but. That clear Coming up the never before heard Bluff the Listener game in a visit with singer Alex boy yea that's when we come back on Wait Wait Don't Tell me from n.p.r. . I'm Scott Shafer on the next political breakdown 2 of our favorite interviews from the past year Orange County congresswoman p.t. Porter talks about being a single mom with kids across the country and Sacramento da hammer Schubert talks about faith family and justice for crime victims joined recent political breakdown Sunday night at 9 k.q.e.d. 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Stations and endless history helping people discover their story through family history and d.n.a. From family trees to pinpointing origins and says tree provides a picture of one's unique past more of them said Street dot com slash and be our Whole Foods Market offering colors and flavors of the season with seasonal produce holiday desserts and Chef created menus Whole Foods Market color the classics. And new offering a personalized weight loss program that uses psychology and small goals to change habits with the goal of losing weight and keeping it off for good learn more at noon and. Come. From n.p.r. And Noble to be easy Chicago this is wait wait don't tell me the n.p.r. News quiz I'm Bill Kurtis and here is your host at the Chase Bank Auditorium in Chicago Peter Sagal thank you Bill thank you everybody. In the cobra went to Salt Lake City to record our 1000 ft show and if you do 1000 well of course you have to do 1001 so on the 2nd night Bill Kurtis and I joined with panelists Adam Burke Amy Dickinson and Bobcat Goldthwait to try to fool the audience in our bluff game and then we had a remarkable visit with Salt Lake City's own Alex boy the only former member of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to become a You Tube star here today right now it's time for the Wait Wait Don't Tell Me Bluff the Listener game call one AAA great way to play our game on the air Hi you're on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me Oh my goodness it's really happening how do you detect that happening now because if I had to think yes only if you thought so makes her way how far away from the Eccles theater are you right now I'm like a mile away my father in law and then Palin got there he doesn't let that. Wait a minute you're a mile away and we're talking to you at 1st I thought I thought it was going to be one of those the call is coming from inside that have no. Idea the front row with the cell phone you know what I'm so close just come on but I will wait so. Well welcome to the show now Jess you're going to play our game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction what is Jess is topic they call me octo pushy. This week in the news we learned a new word and that word is octo push and no it doesn't mean a doula for octopuses. Panel is going to tell you what it does mean only one of them though is telling the truth pick that one and you'll win our prize the weight waiter of your choice in your voicemail Are you ready to play I'm reading All right 1st let's hear from Adam Burke Tiffany fleet of Plano Texas has always hated October it's not a seasonal affective disorder thing she explains it's just the fact of October the pumpkin spice and hollowing decorations going up right after Labor Day October is just this big lame reminder that summer is over and the end of the year is rushing toward you free soon located like minded thinkers online and earlier this year founded October push a grassroots movement aimed at shunting the dreaded 10th month to later in the year . The plan is to add 6 days to both August and September and make October shorter and later explained late the idea seems to be gathering steam a recent change dot org petition espousing the October push agenda garnered 820000 signatures Dr Jordan Lowery an octo pusher from Sacramento sees a scientific rationale for the shift global warming is causing havoc with the traditional abscission and foliage change in tree so relying in October to reflect that isn't a bad idea he explained Plus remember that Pope Gregory changed the calendar by 10 days in 1582 and he didn't even have a website. While fully acknowledges the new arrangement will take some getting used to particularly for people born in the latter part of the month she adds it means an extra 2 weeks of May not hearing the monster mash in his c.b.s. It'll be worth it. But the push October back we're going to deal with it quite so soon. Your next story of what octopus might mean comes from a need to consent. It's pretty obvious by now that all human and Devore will eventually become an Olympic sport you know sword fighting became fencing and now sinking to the bottom of the pool might become the new list and weirdest sport hoping to compete at the Olympics this new sport is called octo push and next month it will make its debut at the Southeast Asian Games octo pushes a form of hockey that's played under water at the bottom of the swimming pool the key was developed by the British Royal Marines for underwater training in the 1950 s. And it's called the push because the name near drowning was already taken. The entire game featuring swimmers and awaited puck happens underwater the players wear Speedos and have little tiny hockey sticks they and their referees surface every few seconds to gulp air I'd explain the scoring system to act to push but no one cares I'll tell you how the spectators can watch octo push but they really can't. A version of hockey. Played at the bottom of the head while holding your breath your last October push or well that's Bobcat Goldthwait for decades in the small Swedish town of go giant mysterious wooden spatulas have been unearthed and have flown into the community over their purpose thought to possibly be an ancient farming tool the town's folks will paint the spatulas with bright festive colors and use them to decorate their gardens often hang them in their own homes it wasn't until recently when archaeologist Lars Dahlberg found an ancient parchment in a nearby cave that the real use of the spatulas was discovered the large tool of the octopus. Bird is believed to have played a main role in the ancient Nordic practice of this. I think it's when the elders of the clan threw themselves off cliffs in order not to be a burden to their families or the tribe. Lars said I guess sometimes the elders would have 2nd thoughts about hurling themselves in the grate a vest. And would start their own back. Then the octopus was used to swell I'm. Like large geriatric Housewives. Said he believes the octopus was also used at the bottom of the cliff to help clean up after. People have gotten to have removed octo pushes from their homes and gardens. Black one the town's woman declared it's really a terrible shame because they are innately decorated push really made my den come alive. All right. So Jess. There is a saying This much we can tell you called octo push is it from Adam Burke a movement to push October back in the year so we can have a little bit more time before we deal with it from Amy Dickinson a weird but real sport played with a hockey puck at the bottom of a pool while holding your breath or from Bobcat Goldthwait an ancient Nordic implement used as a spatula to push reticent senior citizens off of what. I'm. Going to go with a we're going to go with Adam's story. The audience here likes it. You could use Adam story but the people want to push October back because wouldn't be nice if we didn't have to deal with it yeah all right well to bring you the real story we spoke to someone involved in an underwater Auggie is played normally in Devon in the deep hole and here in Tokyo there can there. Underwater hockey to be in court that was my kilt and he is the director of the 2019 USA underwater hockey nationals in other words he plays octo push. So I'm so sorry you didn't get it right however your earned a point for Adam and maybe help start a movement that's I thought one of the few. And I'm sorry you didn't win but hey you know we're going to be here for another hour one on day one of us will record your voicemail I promise you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Keep. The. Good stuff. And now the game where people travel a long way to arrive at a brief moment of silliness it's called Not My Job Alex boy a lives here in Salt Lake City but he was born in London to a Nigerian mother and along the way he has led a boy band sung in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and been a backup dancer for George Michael Yeah fine you might say. But what's he done that's unusual Well he also personally gave a book of Mormon to Prince Charles How's that it was a dare it was a did all right Alex boy a welcome to Wait Wait Don't Tell me thank you so much it's such a pleasure to have a great the more the more I read about you the more I believe you're a fictional character. Because it is so that's true you grew up kind of rough in London yeah I went through the foster care system and everything and then I end up and ended up at a boarding school but really I when I was 11 in the school I went to was moved from whole school and it was like subsidized all the kids from the hood from the really bad places of London and broken homes and that kind of stuff and the school the. Things look like some of Harry Potter but without the magic and moving through what we would like literally living and education I got was amazing I found every class but when I would go to get a job in England as soon as I saw the school who moved to school in coming oh yes yes yes I'll take you as you're all you're like a kid from the rough neighborhood yeah I felt like you know the English version of fresh prince from Bel Air. So Alex tell when did you start singing I actually started music when I got kicked out of my house when I was 16 years old from becoming a mum really so yeah this is what I mean when I got married I said So Alex you're in England yes I did some guys on bicycles ride up and on top feel Ok How did you like a little bit in America well I used to work in McDonald's I'm going home I'm like Swinton everything working on his name thing I turn up I'm walking to my doorstep I walk up and what did I see 2 says the missionary smiling. I never had this is going on here's the thing let me tell you think it was so frickin Hall I'm. Not saying there's a man up stairs going to censor you much so anyway I would do it I've heard a lot of reasons for converting to Mormonism but that was never been one of them was going to be honest so as you say we could be here all day. But eventually you decided to leave London and you came to Salt Lake City yes you are and you join the Morgan Tabernacle Choir Yeah yeah I was there for 8 years my manager I have this manager in such a hostel right so after I left choir left about 4 years ago and he said this is how he had publicised made sense Alex boy was the 1st black lead singer of the Mormon Tabernacle. I was going to ask you how in a course of 500 people how you would stand out but I guess I know. It was 33 black guys in the choir when I was in the choir Yeah we school. 3 pieces of licorice in a sea of marshmallow really what what is it like singing in a chorus of 300 people cannot tell you when you are singing with 360 people in a spiritual sensing about God telling you mine save my life really really and in a way that you're performing with boy bands prior to that did not oh yeah that's right you're going to that Your Honor you know you had a point you must be to me there are so many like things that only you have done from having a boy band that opened for in sync Yeah and the Backstreet Boys are back and the Bakshi boys opened up for us in Cardiff in 1995 I believe and this is when we don't have one here and in the back you boys came and they were the 1st boy band ever where all the singers could actually sing my group so 4 of us right yeah and only one of us could sing and that was me right right so I come into the studio record oh my oh my really and then which you're on stage and not turn all the mikes off. And they would mime everything so it was oh my voice but they're amazing dancers No I'm not going to tell you because you can look it up but did I know that did they know that nobody could hear them I. Wouldn't know because they sang the top of their voices. So I just turned them aren't so far told the engine is to turn their mikes off so they didn't know to this they know that we are the best singers in the wild have it right this is it and that's And like that's like the opposite of the moment when you're the only one thinking yeah that's right I love the way that you the way you tell your stories like an old general talking about a battle who was that Rich pardon for you that I mean not before you do you really have a guy well Alex boy a we have invited you here to play a game we're calling Meat Boy our d. . The more we talked about you hungrier we got and we realize that's because your name reminded us of Chef Boyardee the very real show. From ledges name to the immortal line of canned pasta products answer 3 questions about Chef Boyardee and his food and you'll win a prize for one of our listeners the voice of anyone they might choose for their voicemail Bill who is the irrepressible Alex boy yeah playing for Bob from tally of New Windsor New York all right you know I think you're ready to do this Ok all right yeah 1st question though it has been popular with generations of kids not everyone is a fan of Chef Boyardee as proven by which of these incidents a before Harken Dorrian touched ground in the Bahamas the only thing left in supermarkets were cans of Chef Boyardee it was on my desk probably being a half a ton of an even Chef Boyardee spaghetti was found stuffed into the crawl space behind a junior high cafeteria in Michigan. Or c. When rescuers reached the remains of an airplane crash site in the Himalayas they found signs of cannibalism and 10 unopened can oh my dear boy you are going to be from. Well I'm going to go for you know for a hurricane during your right Alex that's what happened thank you. Ok here's your next question what no one thinks of Chef Boyardee it's how food it's probably never put anyone's life at risk except for one time when what happened a a grocery worker at a Florida Piggly Wiggly was trapped in a pyramid of Chef Boyardee cans that was built around him while he now. He won a Marine deployed in the Middle East accidentally microwaved a can with a lid on causing a small explosion all these fellow troops ran in with her m. Sixteen's or see a woman in China developed aluminum poisoning because she loved Chef Boyardee ravioli so much she would chew on the empty cans Oh oh if we could go for b. Going to go for b. The Marine Yes that's what happened to me everybody would find some gun revolting. All right last question for yeah one of the best things about Chef Boyardee is that it's pretty cheap but in 20012. Through Chef Boyardee fans had the chance to spend $300.00 to do what a eat a can of Chef Boyardee ravioli in a cage with professional wrestler the big show Aegis special customized dish of kickin slop and Joe macaroni as made by renowned chef Thomas Keller or see what renowned chef Thomas Keller be forced to eat a can of can sloppy joe back around. Then you're all calling for see which involves forcing. One of the most respected chefs in the world see if you eat a bowl of Chef boy yeah see. Here to go for saying I want to be adventurous from a guy on a limb go I've got 2 things to say 1st of all it was a Secondly despite the stereotype you're all terrible people I know it was true that if you've ever wanted to eat jeopardy ravioli in a cage with a professional wrestler the big show you missed your chance it happened back in 2000 Bill how did Altoona quit 2 out of 3 that's why they're let out of the way. Alex Yeah a is a singer actor and dancer his new album coming to America is on sale now Alex boy thank you so much for just a few but. When we come back we talk to everybody's favorite human being Henry Winkler and a hardened felon Well kind of we'll be back in a minute with more of Wait Wait Don't Tell me from n.p.r. I'm Christi we host the Live from here tune in this week to our broadcast from the town hall with guests packing Maggie Rogers Chris Guthrie and Sarah. This show comes to you out of New York City and it. Will start in about 20 minutes live from New York Kristy Lee at 11 am also comes to Saturday evenings at 6 pm support for k.q.e.d. Comes or makes finity extended the home is the voice Rather's home phone service that keeps customers connected to family and friends around the world customers also get calling features like their caller id on their t.v. 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News quiz I'm Bill Kurtis and here is your host at the Chase Bank Auditorium in Chicago Peter saying all thank you Bill so we have been avoiding our families and helping you avoid yours by distracting everyone with great segments from our recent past we did consider having everybody in America just swap families but there were logistical challenges so we canceled all the buses we had reserved and instead here some things everybody can agree on for example that Henry Winkler is the nicest man in the universe and he came back to our show last August and Peter asked if people still recognized him as the funds or on his more recent Emmy winning role the acting teacher Gene Kosovo on H.B.O.'s comedy series Barry I don't you know yell out ballet. And people yell out the funds but I will say I'm wearing jeans right now Ok I know you want to because you know we can this is a part of the characters that's true they both were you know this one is named Jean the other one wears jeans yes that's very high didn't realize as a through line to your work you know what I did meet your interview much less proud of it I know it's great you know maybe if you're my everything every sign that says fire you still amazing. But people still do refer to you as the fundamental and I absolutely absolutely my right. But and I think that's wonderful but I don't want to talk about the fund this time I want to talk to you about Gene cousin or this role you play in the amazingly good t.v. Show Barry can say those who are not lucky enough to see it have can you describe who Gene is I am a teacher of great safety and yeah and I know we're great because we can pay in cash on Chinese right. And I teach a young man who came into my class. Has kind of like another job I'm only finding out about and he is a an assassin right and I he has become like I'll son right to me Well what's amazing about the show is even given that outlandish premise that he's an assassin who decides he wants to be an actor and forget in acting class it's really quite moving because as you say he does need a father and your character kind of provides that I didn't know that he was a as pickup trucks as he was supposed to be. And and then the 2 men who run the show saw me as I started to to bring Gene alive and they said oh he could also have a heart and so then they combined the 2 parts of my. Body Right. Down I got to ask you because of the so much of this is set in this acting class did you ever take an acting class and was it like this you know like I had 14 teachers in college in graduate school in drama school I did research and I came across a factory where there was a teacher here in l.a. Who literally forced his students who barely made enough to take his class he made them buy his art. To me like he would paint pictures or whatever and then sell it to his students and I I thought Yes this says everything I need to know about this teacher Wow Do you enjoy that aspect of the character being a little grasping and cruel to know what and I actually never thought of that because when you do when you do an episode you do scene by scene and you concentrate on making that scene perfect and all of a sudden you put all these details together and I watch along with everybody else I don't see it until it's on the air right so you know I really am world I just love going to work you know that's what I wonder what that would be like. Sounds great so it does sound great. You and I'm so proud of you won an Emmy for the 1st season yes I did and I was amazed to discover this that was your 1st any you've had a lifetime of television and you've only won this any and I have it on my Johnny room table. Really is that when you put it You very late and it's opposite the front door so when the man. Delivers medicine from the pharmacy Yes. I I pointed out to him the Emmy. Oh that whole thing and anybody else who could. In the run through I leave them through the dining room. I want to ask you something so you were in the show a few years ago in a wonderful time and Paula Poundstone said that she saw you once in public just you know the way that you do We were we were flying on the same airline on the same plane and she said that she thought to herself There's a happy little fella. So I do go into the fact that I'm sure I don't I think I'm not quite sure what she was referring to but I did want to ask you Do you think that's an accurate description I have by 2 words gratitude and tenacity tenacity to get me where I want. And gratitude doesn't allow me to be angry along the way. We went through there's always a pleasure to talk to you we've invited you here to play a game that this time we're calling who'll look at the Twinklers so I know as a Winkler you Winkle But what do you know about things that twinkle stars. When I ask you 3 questions about Twinklers or Stars Get 2 right you win our prize for one of our listeners any voice they might like on their voicemail Bill who is our friend Henry Winkler playing for sentiment Taff of Dallas Texas All right Henry you ready to do this yes oh yes we've learned some interesting things about stars since we started venturing into space including which of these a stars can get bored be stars smell like burned steak or see stars they're just like us. Wow. I'm going to go with Star Search just like God because I'm a very normal person actually stars they're just like us is a feature in Us magazine The real answer was stars smell like burnt steak we didn't know this into the. Really true until astronauts went out into space in space suits and came back and sniffed their spacesuits and felt weirdly hungry because it turns out that stars give off a number of chemicals one of which smells like burnt state one it's true while the smell of space I'm glad I'm on the show I ever knew that I know. All right these are chances Here's your next question will mean a Fleming classified tens of thousands of stars during her decades long career at the Harvard observatory before that she had another job what was it a one day the head of the observatory got frustrated with the staff and said My Scottish maid could do better he hired her and she did. B. She was a theater critic who said people are boring I want to watch something else or see nobody knows she just showed up one day wearing a silver suit and said I can help you. All right I'm going to ruin lemonade Yes. I'm going to I'm going to say you're new with a that she said I'm my Scottish maid could do better you want to write I. Want to go undiscovered geniuses who became a brilliant mathematician and astronomer she discovered among other things the horse said nebula she is a hero all right you have one more question I was going to hire her but she took that job I know it's a shame it's last question our son is a star of course for about 30 percent of people staring into the sun will cause sneezing fits what is the scientific name of this reflects a squinty sneezing the solar so not or see off a sawmill compelling Helio up filmic outburst or ACTU. I'm going to you go see auto so more compelling Hillier up filmic outburst or actually you're right. How did Henry Winkler do on our quiz Hillary 2 out of 3 right is a very good score of it means you have one. Thanks. Finally many people love the Netflix t.v. Show Orange Is The New Black but they may not know it's based on the experience of a real person Piper Kerman who really did serve a year in a woman's prison we interviewed Ms Kervyn near Cleveland where she had been working teaching writing in Ohio prisons Peter ask her if the authorities knew her whereabouts I am not on the lam and yeah I've been living here in Ohio for almost 5 years it's been fantastic and. I feel I mean I force believe that everybody knows your story but we should say that the book obviously isn't is a memoir it's it's nonfiction but they took some liberties with the t.v. Series it's a book is a true story and. The show takes the book puts it in a blender and puts a lot of other ingredients in Yes and isn't that fantastic it's been tacit So are you a fan of the t.v. Show I am a fan of this show for sure and all the people all the wonderful people who make it so you're back in prison although now you are doing it as an instructor and so what are you doing I teach true story writing class I teach a class in which students come in and write true stories from their own life essentially a memoir writing class ever teach them and you have your famous prison recipes they were very interested in the cheesecake recipe actually at the men's facility the women all knew how to do it I was actually amazed to read this in the book that all this cooking went on which I did not think was the thing that happened in prison but yeah it turns out the food in a child hole is pretty bad Yeah you know the skills of the prisoners are much better the materials are kind of rough to work with right so you do what you can well 1st of all I did notice that you said that in prison the food was so bad it's . Exercise was one of the few things you could do to spend your time you ended up at least the 1st look I'm pretty great you said I ran a half marathon when I was in prison that's really boring it is to the time where do you how do you want to have fun in prison if you run a half marathon around a quarter mile gravel track is a lot of left turn to see. So as you say the chalan the food hall was terrible cooking for yourself how do you make a cheesecake in prison. To make a cheesecake in prison you need a Tupperware bowl you have to have that after purchase from the commissary or borrow it you make a cross out of either smashed up graham crackers or Oreo depending on your proclivities and I'm writing this now you've got it you need some margarine that you've stolen from them. That is the only stolen ingredient in this recipe which makes it novel and notable. And then for the filling you take those kinds of cheeses that don't have to be refrigerated you need about a half a cup of putting you can usually get some putting somewhere and you sort of beat those things viciously together until they're creamy and then you get a beating on. On the putting And this cheese and you also start to add an entire thing of cream or about a tall and making putting my hands about $8.00 to $10.00 or more is the powdered how to substitute creamer Yes you put that in there at the whole container you're trying not to think about what's what's going in what's in there right and you mix and you mix and then actually what you have is kind of a mess right yes well then you take the plastic squeeze lemon and you put I would use really most of the lemon and you start to squeeze that into the mix and it tightens up. I attribute whatever mysterious things are contained in nondairy creamer but it's remarkably like the texture of a New York cheesecake. And the taste you are in so it seems if you're in prison right now. But you have got to get a few network shows I did so. Well Piper Kerman it is a pleasure to talk to you we've invited you here to play a game we're calling blunder this. Year you were busted and as we've discussed serve time for money laundering which made us wonder how much you know about the more traditional kind of laundering. Answer 2 out of 3 questions about what they call clothing laundering we would rise one of our listeners the voice of anyone they might like on our show on their voicemail Bill who is Piper Kerman playing for Sophia Casa of Ohio who's here with her family but there are I think a. Pretty good look back now yes. There's a 1st question American pioneers had a very inventive way of dealing with dirty clothes What was it a sticking them in the Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone and waiting for it to erupt the shooting of their laundry with soap shot or c. Just standing near a buffalo and blaming the animal for the stink. I'm going to go with Old Faithful you're exactly right I'm. Already going to count that's right they say they would just stick to one during the geyser wait for to go up the laundry would blow up in the air they pick it up would be clean that's what I would do absolutely that's Russia while he was writing Walden Henry David Thoreau of course shot himself off from civilization that made getting his clothes clean difficult what clever technique did throw use to get his clothes clean during his you. Living a. Honey let the bears lick them. He used his philosophical insights to convince the clothes to turn away from. Overseas he walked the mile into town and had his mom do it for him. It's so easy you see you are all gone yeah yeah. The only one who isn't that far out of town they also brought food for him all right last question nowadays things of course and laundry as with everything else it's all high tech astronauts on the International Space Station do their laundry how a laser. Be hanging them on a line outside i'm or see the loading their dirty laundry into a cargo spaceship and letting it burn up on reentry. I think it's basically a version of disposable underwear you're exactly right. There's no water out there much easier. Bring up the cargo ship the old laundry in the ship and let it burn up on reentry you're exactly right Bill how did Piper do on our quiz she got all 3 right Ok. Piper Kerman very well done. That's it for our special Thanksgiving listen to us rather than your relatives edition from n.p.r. Comes from n.p.r. Stations and Home Advisor committed to helping homeowners find the right for their home projects. For home projects at Home Advisor dot com. 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