It's months to turkeys the fence minister former acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan mourned that should Turkey acquire the us 400 system it would not get in the f. 35 and Turkish pilots who've been training in Florida and Arizona to fly that shot fighter would have to leave the u.s. By the end of this month David Bowman n.p.r. News Washington this is n.p.r. From k.q.e.d. News I'm tipping the cam Hi Jewel labs the maker of e. Cigarettes is working to overturn San Francisco's ban on baiting products the city became the 1st in the nation to pass such a law last month and k.q.e.d. Is Loric livens is here to talk about this with us Laura San Francisco law goes into effect next year in 2020 and it would ban the sale of e Cigs both at brick and mortar stores and online but now there's a petition to overturn that what's the petition asking for and how does jewel fit in so you thieving is a huge problem we've seen one in 5 high school seniors have used cigarettes in the last 30 days that's the most recent information and the city has said we want to ban the sale of these in our brick and mortar shops and online until the f.d.a. Has reviewed them now there is a coalition that has gathered signatures and they have put together a ballot initiative so it will likely be on our ballot and what it's saying is let's allow the sale of the cigarettes in brick and mortar stores let's change things so we protect youth in a different way what they'll do is they'll try to strengthen age verification at brick and mortar stores for example and so jewel and Jewel money is behind it all right so Jewel has a lot of money in this but this could be like a game of Whack a mole right because other cities around the bay are starting to follow suit right so Livermore next week is going to have a final vote to see if they will also ban isa Gretz and flavored tobacco the city of Richmond. It has said that they will also jump on board with an Isa gret ban similar to San Francisco's and then at the statewide level there are bills that are being proposed to prevent youth from getting East cigarettes so we will be keeping track of that that with k.q.e.d. Is Loric livens and I'm Tiffany can high k.q.e.d. Support comes from Personal Capital introducing a new high yield account personal capital cash f.d.i.c insured support for n.p.r. Comes to Numa offering a personalized weight loss program that uses psychology and small goals to change habits with a goal of losing weight and keeping it off for good learn more at noon and am dot com and the listeners of k.q.e.d. 62 degrees in San Francisco 65 in Oakland it's 72 degrees right now in San Jose 6 and a half minutes past 11. From n.p.r. And be easy Chicago this is wait wait don't tell me the n.p.r. News Quiz check out these fireworks who. Bill. Bill Kurtis. And here is your host at the Chase Bank Auditorium in Chicago Peter Segall thank you Bill Gates everybody. This is the time of year when we celebrate Santa Claus bringing the Declaration of Independence to the happy children of Philadelphia back in the olden times of the 1920 s. . So when you're putting presents under the independence Bush we thought we'd share some favorite segments from our recent shows sometimes actually important people appear on our show probably because they made the mistake of thinking we're normal n.p.r. For example last year Christine Lagarde the managing director of the International Monetary Fund Peter began with a question of protocol. I should say to begin with we've never spoken to the head of an important international alliance before so how should you be addressed as director of the guard Madame God we don't know how you get these gifts is that you called me Christine most people at the I met called me and beat up on some managing director and I hope it's like it because it reminds the up this very by 3 d. In the chain but I will say that's very cool yeah one of the 1st things we're kind of curious about is what you do and now we assume that you have people killed is that. No. No no no no no no no no no that was not a guilty laugh at all so I seriously. Could you just I know this is a complicated question but nonetheless as I understand it you spend all day having people call you up and. Asking you to lend the money. But time stamps at the time of the financial crisis everybody was knocking at the door out about then it's improved over time at the moment it's full table right but the getting a bit worried because of course all tough issues like monetary tightening like financial costs rising and capital flows coming out of the big emerging market economies around the world of time running into trouble Have I mentioned that we're all humanities majors here and I just did a spot of Poundstone here did they pay interest on this loan. Or you're rich country oh you're a developing country if you're a developing country it will lend you money on. The front interest rates because continued You are in trouble you put capital you can get these low and it would be totally abusive and unfair to lend expensive interest rates what's the diff definition of like a good range country or a developing country it's defined with reference to the amount of dollar per person and so you're right if you are below $4000.00 per person and then you're a low income country right I just discovered I'm a developing country you know because I think you know what we research your background and addition to the you know the important education and various posts we discovered that you at one point were a competitive synchronized swimmer correct. So how do you feel about men in speed and I guess what I'm more interested in my children the issue of saving on lunch a big really I mean when you're in and provide them a critically important you have a piece a little bit of hair on your leg because it's actually a Sun surf all. Because you are in the water so it is a. I've never heard anything like this you saying that synchronized swimmers need to have a little bit of hair in their life that can't be completely smooth Why is that it's very weird because when you're thinking like if you shake your like you know where you are in public feeling like you're Since And so. That's what you're telling me is like when you see synchronized swimming as you once were and these women are in the pool and their legs are straight up in the air they can only tell that their legs are straight up in the air or wherever they're supposed to be because of the sensory feeling from the hears on their legs exactly well. I think part of. This is your Because I did not know that I would have anything I could talk to you about. I wanted to ask you if your career were you a competitive synchronized swimmer did you actually go to competitions and we have Yeah you know I was on I was the French national team you are on your ranch National Security Studies. Do you anything that you learned there in deciding who to loan money. If there's somebody who comes from a country that's clearly not going to be good for the money did a little hairs in your legs cut. Well Christine Legarde we are delighted to talk to you it is a pleasure to get to know you but we have in fact invited you here to play a game that this time we're calling La Garde meat. So. We thought we'd ask you about America's greatest Mayor Fiorello La Guardia of New York City a man much better than the airport they named after. Answer to the 3 questions about the little flowers he was known and you will win our prize for one of our listeners the voice of anyone from our show they choose on their voicemail Boo Boo sorry Bill who is Christine Legarde playing. Carl head. Princeton New Jersey are you ready to. Let you go your 1st question no fear a live wire to it was an immensely popular figure in his day he received what tribute from President Franklin Roosevelt way Roosevelt said he was just 5 feet tall but it's all venom be upon meeting Winston Churchill Roosevelt said quote He's like an Englishman Bhartiya or see Roosevelt said quote The only thing we have to fear is fear around all the r.t.o. . I say be you're right that's what is. Behind Thank you. Next question Laguardia went on a campaign in New York City against crime in vice he once declared that the sale and possession of what would be illegal in his town was it a violin cases b. Slingshots or c artichokes. I can listen he was slingshots Ok I'll take it because I have no idea what you're talking about. I just want you to know now you know how I felt talking to you about it. No In fact it was artichokes really was artichokes merely glorious at the mafia was controlling the artichoke market and thus he banned their sale until prices came down right now this is exciting if you get one to get this last question correctly when our prize and the mayor died in 147 but his influence lives on what other important feature of modern life has been credited to Mare Laguardia Was it a the 10 items or less express lane in the supermarket she demanded after having to wait in line for 20 minutes to buy a single tomato be following the underwear. Which strippers in New York invented to get around La Guardia's and high nudity laws or see the website Buzz Feed which was named after the mayor's practice of public feeding as of his dog Buddy. As. A case you're to go for c. You're going to say that the website Buzz Feed. You know the crowd is mourning that means you have the chance to change your answer. To. The hairs on your legs tell you anything but be. Alright be yes and the answer is b. Yeah whatever the what happened was as I said he went on a campaign against Vice in the city the strippers were told they had to put on underwear to perform but they wanted to expose as much of themselves as possible so they invented falling underwear Wow Isn't that amazing then yes they have also allowed them to be more sensitive to the environment because you know here's a question to you. Bill how do you see how does the director of the International Monetary Fund. Do on our show you know she did marvelously he runs a variation 2 out of 3 year old women very serious the who was the managing director of the International Monetary Fund guys thank you so much for joining us Ok. Thank you thank you. As busily guard found out where not like the rest of the n.p.r. For example you could listen all week to Steve Inskeep and never once hear a new story like this Helena a new study shows that fish can potentially be what. Delicious that's true. But that's not new scientific knowledge no not even on that one yeah kava heads Yes Now some say the fish bowl is half empty. Deprived of close enough pessimists not one for yes what would you be. Derided mean if you're. If you're a fish being a pessimist is just realism Yeah. Well no they are not going to work out great for you because you're afraid when part of a well this is what they did. They they took these fish and they allowed these fish to mate but some of the females got to mate with their 1st choice of male and some did not know when they took those fish the fish that got lucky and the fish that couldn't and they gave them an opportunity to explore places for food following along so far and it turns out that the fish that didn't get their preferred mate just weren't interested. They were like things don't work out it's not going to be food I don't care. This is true wait and I just sat there and the journal. Did this start listening to more c m things there was a oh yeah Ok what it is it was Elliot Smith It was terrible. There's fish that got the hook up with the Brad Pitt a fish and they were like we flew down and then there were fish that got to hook up with like the busted fish and they were like what's the point that is exactly the experiment this is my entire tender existence. This sounds sad but remember with all the prescription drugs that are now in the water supply of these fish are going to feel much better and have no problem getting an erection. But we come back what do you do with a problem like scum for in the greatest anchor ever meets the other greatest ever so many acres will never move again will be back in a minute with more of what they don't tell me from n.p.r. . 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The way for baby America to crown Let's keep listening back to our favorite segments from the last year this is the Bluff the Listener game we played last September how did this make him an I live in the mountain what I love Missoula Montana one of my favorite places what do you do there well I work at a local t.v. Station full time and I work at animal wonder went to. Local exotic animal rescue and outreach Well now wait a minute exotic animals not dogs and cats but things like what we have we just like you that b.p. . These are live and learn who are you rescuing them from well I am going to. Be preparing. To go to the beaver had a severe disability and. He gets to live the rest of his life in the wrath of God I don't know what I learned. That would be funny. Anyway I want to go to the show they are going to. I'm going to play the game in which you have to tell truth from fiction Bill what is Megan's topic these Thorp problem the. Problem it sounds like a terrible Robert Ludlum novel and it might be we haven't checked but it's also a real term for something we saw a written about in the news this week our panelists are going to tell you about it pick the one who's telling the truth and you win our prize the voice of your choice on your voicemail Are you ready to play absolutely All right 1st let's hear about this gun for a problem from hell and home it's a struggle that many public radio fans know all too well after years of listening to their favorite radio personalities they finally get tickets to see them in person and show up excitedly at the venue only to experience the shock of their lives that's what they look. 'd fresh air host Terry Gross reports her most commonly heard feedback at live events is but you're supposed to have a long flowing hair and. It happens so often that n.p.r. Has given it a name this gun Thorp problem named after allies a Scunthorpe a long term contributing member of w.b. You are in Boston this country at last scored tickets to see her favorite radio show Wait Wait Don't Tell me I guess I always imagined them to be you know really distinguished looking. But maybe done Thorpe's unsettling experience came to a head when the host of the show Peter Segall was announced leaping to her feet. If Nay nay Scunthorpe repeatedly yelled. No I don't believe you're hit and. Bring out the real Peter say go home I'm able to be appeased miscount the ark was escorted out of the show and off the premises Well you can bet on cancelling my membership there is no way back and posture with Peter Sagal Peter Sagal I know and love looks like Pierce Brosnan and gold and I. Was stunned for a problem is people believing that public radio figures are more attractive than we really are and being shocked to find out the truth. Your next Scunthorpe Splenda nation comes from Adam Burke was so much intentional obscenity on the internet it seems that unintentional obscenity is also becoming a problem take the case of sports writer Natalie Wiener who tried to log onto a website only to have the site security protocols reject her name as offensive language it's part of what web developers refer to as the scum for problem so-called because when certain AI's and Internet monitoring algorithms are confronted by a name like that of the English industrial town scum Thorpe they often flag it as objectionable as it happens to contain within a particular 4 letter word that many find offensive quick hence the word isn't for. As researcher Michael Beal puts it some words such as the common abbreviation of the name Richard are harmless in certain contexts but in other cases parents might not want them used and would be flagged by certain types of program it seems that after so many years of being plagued by dirty minded 11 year old boys the Internet has turned into one. Who can't or won't distinguish whether charity but kids is a woman's name or just a very particular request on Go Fund Me. It's time for me. Thank you very very much. Teach computers when the naughty word is not really a naughty word and your last description of the Scunthorpe problem comes from a he can see this gun part problem if you're not familiar is the term in biology for the tendency of human beings to react to the discovery of a new species by immediately trying to teach us it gets its name from an 856 incident when a scientist named Dr Thomas Gunn tarte proudly presented their discovery at the platypus at a conference he described the flea to the body of a weasel the head of a duck and the teeth of a woman go to the 1st question from the audience was incredible discovery fair what side dishes do you recommend. Weeks later Dr scum tarp ultimately released his findings in a paper called the platypus Please don't eat it he was they ignore it's thought it was populations the message and the scum part problem with born. All right. There is something. Real. Called The Scunthorpe problem but is it from hell and the problem of people being inevitably disappointed when they find out what their favorite public radio personalities actually look like is it from Adam Burke the problem of people or words with names that could be dirty not being able to use computers because the computers won't let them or is it from made Hagan's the problem of people immediately celebrating the discovery of any new species by immediately trying to eat it which of these is the real Scunthorpe problem well it's really funny because recently I looked out a picture of what you look like Peter and I was very shocked to find out what people. Are going up 100 percent couldn't replace them. Shocked with pleasantly. I know I'm going to be correct but I am pretty certain Adam so are you pretty sure it's Adam story that Scunthorpe problem refers to a problem in computer programming. Well you've chosen Adam story then and to bring you the real definition of the Scunthorpe problem we spoke to somebody who knows all about my last name Weiner record an algorithm that would design to prevent people from using pornographic con and that was definitely Weiner a staff writer at e.s.p.n. Nation and a victim of the real Scunthorpe problem because. He graduated from there you are right Adam Burke was telling the truth you picked it he gets a point you win our prize any voice you like saying pretty much anything you want to be wonderful thank you very very very well who can I ask before you go I know what did you imagine I look like in you can you read that description of a platypus again. And I'm pretty good. Yeah everybody jumps on you all. Day So if you play a few. Earlier this year we went to San Antonio Texas where we were lucky to interview one of the greatest t.v. Anchorman ever well one of the other greatest t.v. Anchorman ever my old friend Dan Rather joined us on stage and Peter began in the appropriate way comparing him to think you started and it turns out that many reporters and including Bill started this where you were a local guy you were doing minor league baseball games at one point I did I did play but playing football baseball basketball track track is really difficult to do playing both ways. All right if you want to know how. How would you do that well he's running. And seems to be running more. Vaulting already has those shot put in his hand and he takes 5 steps and he throws I. Mean do you think there's one moment that in which you sort of got your start that started your career that we've all sort of been watching lo these many decades Well I do that there was a great hurricane in 1961 Hurricane Carla which was at that time and I think still just in terms of sheer size hurricane on record the Gulf of Mexico and I had just started in television I had made my move from radio into television I was still new to television and we wound up in the right place at the right time on Galveston Island as the hurricane came in and that was picked up by other stations nobody else was there broadcasting so if I had to point to one moment that sort of quote made my career that was probably you know it's funny because Bill got his sort of started with a great tornado in Kansas or you know said It turns out that maybe these maybe these weather events are being caused by ambitious young reporter that. You were known for many things but certainly for being fearless not in the not only the places you went like war zones but also the way you treated people in power there was a famous incident where you got up and you asked President Nixon a question it was during Watergate and he didn't like it and I believe he said are you running for something and your famous response was No sir Mr President are you for the it's pretty good with the course took over as the anchor of the c.b.s. Evening news taking the baton from Walter Cronkite another legend who I guess took it from Edward r. Murrow So you're part of that line and one of the things that people were noticing as you as you settle into that role was you were looking for your sign off because famously of course Cronkite would end his broadcast with that. It's the way it is on this day and what was your thinking at that he said you needed something different you needed something for yourself well it was suggested to me that you knew Sino But you know it following a legend like that is not the easiest. To direct my 1st suggestion of my God say well that's some of the way it is Ok but. Nobody took to that idea and we tried to get it right that's the way it might be. Doesn't have quite the same now not at all but it is. Like you know my father's my father's favorite word was courage for a lot of reasons so I thought well maybe we could just pause and say you know that's the c.b.s. Evening News Dan Rather reporting courage and the more I thought about it the more a collective to show it it had in the ring for me I will say that the executives in the company were horrified with this whole reality. Show it lasted about a week. And if you knew that pretty much you either stop using this as a sign of a we stop using you so it was an easy decision I understand what did you change here I just decided not to have one Yeah I just went with the playing and give it my best shot didn't work yeah you know I know. Out of all the people you've interviewed and you interviewed just about every you know major historical player in the last 50 years was there a particular favorite somebody who you would like to talk to well I'm glad you put the preface because let's face it I've been lucky and might have people asked I could give you names of maybe 7 people but if I had to pick one it would be Dr Martin Luther King and what was then the emerging civil rights movement. Program Dr Paige covering Dr King changed me as a professional and it changed me as a person and for that reason I would say if I had to pick one I would say Dr Martin Luther King and covering him day to day for almost 2 years wow sure I imagine that's And this is you have a. Do you ever when you're watching American or do you ever like miss it you are like if I was there I would have the questions like every 2nd Yeah you know I. Can imagine well Dan Rather it is an absolute honor to talk to you but today we have in fact asked you here to play a game we're calling this game is tougher than the hide of an armadillo not for God . As I'm sure you know you are famous for what people call Rather isms. Folksy sayings with colorful metaphors and colorful wisdom you've used so many of them over your career we want to see if you can pick the one you actually came up with. From some fake ones that we made up in tribute to you. If you can do that 2 times out of 3 you'll win a prize for one of our listeners Bill who is Dan Rather playing for Corey hinder city in Washington d.c. All right here's your 1st rather is and this was when you were covering the 2000 election did you say this race is tight like a 2 small bathing suit in a too long ride home from the beach should I be Papa where your good suit because we got ourselves a tie. Or see this race is tighter than Aunt Tillie after a 3rd Moscow mule I definitely it was definitely yeah the they have always wondered before you did you just make those up off the top your head or did you like hadn't ready to go well in the beginning they came from working in the oil fields. When you have got to be kidding me. You're only sorry you're. Going to China I guess so as the day wears on you say you know which part of being a Laredo parking lot where you come from the language All right we have 2 more you did well with that one this is now we're moving through time to the election of 2004 that was George w. Bush reelected versus John Kerry during that evening's coverage on c.b.s. Did you say John Kerry's wife might own Heinz but this is one night he won't catch up. He used to say if a frog had side pockets he'd carry a handgun or see it all comes down to 0 h. O. Which stands for oh high it's over. Definitely yes a frog that's right back if you carry a gun I think you're doing really well. Here's your here's your last question this is a great metaphor you used while commenting in the 2016 election it was it a this race is a back country Tilt a Whirl it could go either way be like the talking horse said to the hopping Bowl I can't believe what I'm seeing. Or see if Clinton wins Florida this race will go faster than a Hamilton ticket at face value. I don't recall sharing any real. Do you know which one you wish you had said. That would be be like the talking horse out of the hopping bull that is a good one but the one that we were told you said if Clinton wins Florida this race will go faster than Hamilton take it at face value which I thought was great because you're updating your cultural references. But meanwhile Bill how did your old friend Dan who are clearly had one anyway 2 out of 3 is a big win for him to be there on the day and rather. Is a legend of broadcast news in the creator of news and guts media Dan Rather thank you thank you I think rather. When we come back our panel opines and Seth Meyers reclines in an arm chair at Carnegie Hall in a minute wait wait don't tell me from n.p.r. This week on This American Life what it is like in Iowa right now this place it's crawling with what is it 25 presidential candidates. Back I. 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News quiz I'm Bill Kurtis and here is your host at the Chase Bank Auditorium in Chicago Peter Sagal they hear thank you by in all our other shows on n.p.r. They bring you the news supposedly But the important stuff isn't what our elected leaders are doing no the real work of ruining everything is done by everyday people like you and me here's our panel talking about the quiet heroes who are making this country a living hell. And ones are the Department of Homeland Security is looking for creative ways to fund the border wall they're saying they can raise up to $3000000.00 just by collecting what. Water bottles going into your Port au you are very close actually because it is something that people leave it t.s.a. Not water bottles but something else older phones no nothing else something else that. Metal in their pockets. People out there saying keys pose no no yes yes they take your call you're going to change your change yes that's exactly right. So be ministration you'll be protecting the border the same way that lousy roommate you had did his laundry by stealing your quarters. E-mails obtained from the Department of Homeland Security outlined their plan to raise $3000000.00 or $0.30 in funds for the border from change people leave when they walk away from the t.s.a. Security line all they need is Bill Gates to fly commercial once. Be able to build a whole wall I don't like that the money is going towards the wall but I'm all for people taking all of my change all of the time really. Since 2000 and I'm able to buy things on my phone with it just looking at my face yes and yet I've got tons of metal in my pockets like please can I get into your state we can take these. I talked to you know my tuppence what's the big metal stuff and it's all grimy it's filled with chairmans come to my house take all of it and that's actually that's actually plan b. If they've got it. They're going to try that they're also going to try a new pat down technique turning it upside down and shaking your. Face cities like New York l.a. And Washington d.c. Are trying out new laws that would allow ordinary citizens to do what. I can be helpful give you a hint Finally you can fulfill your childhood dream of being a meter maid. Giving people your child what So they're trying to keep giving each other to kids yes there are allowing civilians to hand out parking tickets. Yes it's a terrible idea. That we are afraid this will be known as the era of terrible idea but. 6 you know you don't get you don't have to get just for. Straight at the jerk who parks in the bike lane you can be the jerk who travels on them to the cars more and more cities are turning to citizen volunteers to report their neighbors behavior you know after a couple of years of the United States seeming like Nazi Germany it's so refreshing now to have it just seem like East Germany. So the programs vary in New York City where you live so watch out faith anybody who uses an app to report illegally idling vehicles can receive 25 percent of any collected finds itself bounty system one man has made $9000.00 so far that's almost one month's rent. That's true that's true just parking Yeah where it's America's crime or its various kinds of parking What else do you want to report. And this isn't funny it just gets me all fired up I wonder we were my neighbors upstairs I live in an apartment building and their children are fearful and too late. To see this guy just about covers my horizon I mean I know this is why New York such a great city to test for so that the exact because I went to the do your curious New Yorkers already get along so well exactly. Right out of a nice find but like those guys that walk down the street out in public with flip flop shoes yeah those guys with their big man feet hanging over the heads fine you got it right here he called to overbuy Oh. Yeah $200.00 a violation Yeah and if you wear a sleeveless shirt and you have man boobs that stick out of the side right arm should be $300.00. Alonzo it's almost summer camp season and you'll be happy to know that there are now summer camps you can send your children as young as 14 where they will learn all about what. Wow that pretty broad statement. You give me. Then this is actually the reason why these camps are popping up it's important to keep the young people from being seduced by socialists like Bernie Sanders. Oh said if they can learn all about what the Bible and conservative know not exactly. Not was not about religion it's specifically to counter the socialist propaganda Oh about capitalism Yes there capitalism camps. Kids say sharing is caring but you know what caring is not for closers. If your kid doesn't understand how capitalism works you can send them to a camp like the one run by a company called business Vader in South Florida their kids will quote learn how to monetize their hobbies interview local corporate executives and shoot You Tube commercials for their perspective businesses quote. You know your little camper has mastered the principles of the free market when he says to his counselor how much do I have to pay to go home. And grabs a new meaning to can it camp saying I want some more. That's true that's true but let's not you're like oh are smart some of the kid heads Well I'm making s'mores and they'll be $5.00 each that's. Controlling the market on small wars Yeah I said you know it's a monopoly and he's paying off the counsellor to make sure that no one else is allowed to make smores and he's basically understood the American system. I thought these kids would learn how capitalism works when their rich parents pay to get them in the cause that I. One thing you might know about those of us who work in the satirical industrial complex is that we all hang out together all the time and we only do it in the most fancy places like Carney. Hall last winter we allowed it all begins to listen in as we chatted with our late night colleague Seth Meyers Peter Lane husband sure who he was. Understand you have a television show of some kind I do it's on very late at night yes we tape at 630 and I am never awake when it airs. You I have no idea what I would do if someone said Ok you're going to be starring in a you know evening show 4 nights a week and was that intimidating when you got that job it was but Saturday Night Live was so intimidating when I got that sure that I was prepared to be intimidated again if you can do that yet and so when you said yourself Ok We're going to have our own our own iteration of late night yeah you said I want to do what I did in no really when I 1st started doing the show your biggest fear was how do you fill an hour and that is not my fear no no. It's been replaced with bigger fear is yeah. Right it's going to you. Know I was not joking we are very proud that you came out of Northwestern College and then you were in Iowa yes a great Chicago improv tradition I was very lucky to go to a school that considered improv a profession you know my parents did deserve some of the blame when they when they took me to Chicago and again we grew up in New Hampshire but my parents also went to Northwestern and when they took me there for my 1st week of school they took me a 2nd city because it was something they had done in college and so yeah they would go 2nd City and so. Which was a grave mistake because that was so much more interesting than any of my freshman year classes yes but then I was very lucky there was a theater called Boom Chicago that's based in Amsterdam right in the Netherlands and so I auditioned for that and moved overseas for a couple of years are you doing improv in Amsterdam for Dutch people yeah how did that go there were nights it was not great yeah. Because I have a love affair with the Dutch So this will sound like a criticism but it's a loving one they are the most honest people in the world Ok I remember after the show a Dutch guy came over and said hey I'd like to buy you a drink and I said oh did you like the show and he said no. And I said why are you buying me a drink because I did not like your comedy but that doesn't mean I might not like you. Were the Dutch were they a serious people with a hard to make laugh they would only laugh if it was genuinely funny and so I didn't think looking back would you spend 2 years somewhere where polite laughter doesn't exist it makes you a better comedian because they put you through and you never think you were good when you weren't. You know I should point out that of course 80 percent of our audience was Dutch and the other 20 percent were Americans who were visiting Amsterdam and of course they weren't there because improv with legal right. Help or hurt you know people say oh my God a stoned audience must be the best audience they are the worst audience. Because they laugh at the hat you're wearing. You have a perfectly crafted joke and they're already laughing at how you walked on stage. As President Trump noticed you you know we have a little bit of history but. You know well recently Michelle Wolf who was a colleague of this she worked at our show and after her correspondents' dinner he tweeted that she bombed as badly as I did during my Correspondents' Dinner and you know that was I was thrilled to be compared to her was she no well 1st of all I thought she was pretty great she was fearless but you were expression only fearless this is the famous 2011 when it's Correspondent Dinner yeah where you chose to make fun of a certain person in the audience yeah Donald Trump Yeah private citizen at the time that I know and you completely mocked the whole idea of. Him becoming president and some people say of course that that's when he said I'll show them yeah yeah well Color me show when you. Get your lot you're like the Mrs O'Leary's cow of the National. Even Mrs O'Leary's cow that and I didn't walk out of there go on I crush. Well Seth Meyers It is such an honor to talk to you we have invited you here to play a game we're calling late night meet date night so you host late night quite famously quite successfully we're going to ask you 3 questions about date nights and you can answer 2 to 3 questions correctly and you'll win our prize for one of our listeners Bill who is Seth Meyers playing for Rachel bearish New York New York all right. Ok dating has changed significantly over the centuries if you were for example a Welshman looking for a date in the 17th century what could you do to ensure you might catch your eye a walk loudly pastor as passion was considered to be proportional to the volume of footsteps be give your crush a homemade spoon carved with a specific symbols indicating the nature of your love or see travelled as far away as you can and send a letter as love was proved by the distance it had to travel. All really good feasible options yeah. So one of these was the 17th century Welsh equivalent of swiping right I like the idea. Of loudly walking past I'm going with a going to go like you snap bassinette my passion for you is so great that I must stop I've met a couple of Welsh people and I've always heard them come in yeah I. Know I'm sorry it was the spoon will her a spoon Presumably this means I want to spoon with you all right you still have 2 more chances Your next question scientists are nerds but they look for love too as in which of these real life cases which which of these really happen a a researcher and Arctica turned on tender and matched with someone in and Arctica a few miles away. Be a clinical technician was really impressed with the quality of a particular blood sample and looked up the patient to ask her out or see a medical researcher who managed to impress his crush with comic Diane Rehm as made with euthanized lab mice I mean. It's a tender and an art and you're right it works. It's an answer I wonder what you're not just turn on the gender I guess the Knights get long and he actually found somebody who was camping just a short while the way they did meet but nothing happened the scientists have said the 1st Antarctic tender book up has yet to happen so last question if you get this one right here we go celebrities have their own dating troubles I'm sure you know that. Actresses Zoe Kravitz once went on a date which she says went pretty well he was nice they got along but then what happened was that a at the end of the day he said that was fun but I've got to confess I only came because I thought I had a date with Lenny Kravitz. He she pulled out her phone when she got home and saw that he had live tweeted. The whole thing or c. The next day the guy called her and asked her if she wouldn't mind looking after his quote pet turtle unquote and she said yes because he was a nice guy who doesn't like turtles and it turned out to be a 30 pound African tortoise named Gary who stayed with her a month while this guy totally disappeared until he came back and said Hey want to catch a movie and they went to the movie and he never mentioned the turtle. Which she ended up giving to a turtle rescue. While. I one. I wanted not to be featured. Only because it's such a wonderful piece of writing I know. I want that to be fiction and then I tip my cap to whoever came up with it and because of that desire. That it was St No that's not what it was but I'm going to say that was a hint. To give you know the chance to see what it says. This is n.p.r. And This American Life the episode in titled The wannabes That's coming up next stay with us support for k.q.e.d. 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It's 25 right now it's 25 right now and there's this one political writer Dave Weigel with The Washington Post you race this newsletter thing called the trailer 3 times a week and he has this particular superpower we're somehow he seems to be with every single candidate who's running at the exact same time so at this moment where everything seems like this grand $25.00 ring circus with this race he seemed like maybe the very best person in the world to watch this with when there's a next president kill of scene every moment not skipping anything hopefully he will understand why and how and so you basically wanted to see the whole election all at once the way he does yeah and it's so crazy traveling through primary states with him like he knows these places so well like in Iowa we pulled up to a gas station I had to rank Iowa gas stations I think. Quick trip then come and go then Casey's. Weed so what's so great I quite sure. That the the current ones the ones that are fairly new ones there are some that are have been there for probably the new ones of this one I think it might be have. High quality lids that are like. High quality plastic as opposed to the thing that just like breaks legs after one you have lids and you mind this is like the only taste I'm going to have for this and I need the caffeine so I thought it was relieving Hickenlooper of and racing over to a better and better former Texas senatorial candidate better a 2nd Hooper John Hickenlooper former Colorado governor took me so long to read up on all these guys it took a good day to figure out who's a. Thank you for that. Flu when we went to 4 things in a day 1st Knoxville Iowa Weigel looks kind of like a reporter from the seventy's mustached know to blame casually dressed. We're going to this tiny event at this tiny brew pub in his we're driving up to wait we think we see the candidate standing right outside. Doesn't look like. That guy I think is him fairly tall. And Geno's and everything. Oh Sam. Is a serial just when you're walking through a small town guy or a president. If you don't know why it's surreal to him this happens to him literally all the time I think we'd be introduced Oh indeed that's his wife is with him today but one woman in there in that. Way I don't know just it's fun living through things. So he's really into it. It thrills him he loves this. There's this one moment after Betto finishes his little talk and people come up to him and ask questions and this guy you know it's in this tiny brewery which kind of looks like a wrecked room almost And this one voter walks up to beto with a beer in his hand just like as though he's at some kind of relaxed Friday afternoon cocktail party and why go like sees this and jumps up and kind of elbows people out of the way so I understand that you're holding them while talking to him just. The kind of exemplifies the special part we're in the election there's no Secret Service there are no real barriers anyone can just wander up to a presidential candidate it's extremely intimate it's his favorite time of the presidential elections people are really close to each other like at one point and another of and 2 of the candidates Tim Ryan and Jay Inslee They ran right past each other you're back in the district Well you did a good job I love your. Do it again I want to know one more time. It's almost like why go in the candidates on some kind of a cruise or to camp together and they just bump into each other day after day like oh hi again lawsuit tomorrow. They're like are you going to be at the pizza thing think you're safe. I want to catch up with you in the room but. You also in this phase of things you get to see the candidates interacting in the world the regular world regular people with just the most random stuff they normally see like I had this thing happens in me I was checking into our hotel in Waterloo Iowa. Ok and the girl who's checking us in who's like 20 ish maybe she seems funny and smiley and she's like really surprised to see these reporters there and it turns out.