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This is Fresh Air I'm Terry Gross Merry Christmas after pledging to never make an album of Christmas songs my guest roots and rockabilly musician j.d. McPherson has broken that promise and I'm really glad he did his new album socks features his original holiday songs and they're really fun earlier this month McPherson and his band came to our studio with their instruments to play some of those new Christmas songs and talk about music and other things McPherson is a songwriter singer and guitarist who was described by music critic Ann Powers as a supreme rock reinvent or at 1st and grew up far away from the hubs of the music world on a cattle ranch in Oklahoma his father runs the ranch his mother is a preacher before becoming a full time musician McPherson taught art for 4 years to students in middle school his Christmas album socks is his 4th album Welcome all of you to Fresh Air It's so exciting to have you here in the new Christmas album is great j.d. I'm going to ask you to introduce the 1st song and introduce the members of the band certainly So I'm sitting in 1st then. Over to my left is everybody else that's décor Crane the utility guy plays everything Jimi Sutton on bass Ray has sold 0 plays keys back and vocals and our friend Jason Smee on drums Jason isn't here I should say That's correct. Loud we're not going to be hearing him he's too loud he's in a straight jacket. Deal out for a little studio Ok you want to introduce the 1st song yeah this is all the gifts I need. The. Thing is it is on the Internet it's new. Year. The buy. It down it's. A good reason where. Are you getting your leader. They think. You know. The real political good. You. Got all 3. In the business. That matters a little bit here. But I. Think the Real quick look good. Got all. The real good look good. I got. Off the. Thank you so much for a performing that is so great and this is in our studio we heard j.d. McPherson on vocals and guitar Jimmy Sutton bass and guitar also singing backup vocals Cocker and Ray still go and that is one of the songs that's also featured on . These new album which is called socks and it's an album of original Christmas songs and it's really fun just like this and we just heard do you what do you want to do Christmas album I'm glad you did it. Why did you want to well I didn't want to for a long time we had done a Christmas song so I you know I started. Professional like touring I guess you could always had bands but I started touring pretty you know in my thirty's and once I was on the road and doing it and making it happen. Pretty much anything anyone told me to do I would do it it's like Ok Just please don't take this away from me so a few years back our label at the time said Why don't you do a Christmas song and I said Ok and so did it and it actually went Ok And it was a lot of fun actually a big Christmas vamp but you know we did it and then I was like I want to do anymore that was it and then you know the old saying never say never I don't know I just got the bug in my ear to do it and I always love Christmas music and I love rock and roll and there was a few things that happened that made it seem like it was Ok For one thing Nick Lowe made a record that was like a brilliant approach to holiday music and you kind of set this like standard of this could be actually pretty interesting and so I have to say once we actually did it it's probably the most fun we've ever had a great record so. There's another Christmas song I'd like you to do and it's called ugly sweater polluters and a lot of people intentionally wear ugly sweaters to Christmas parties really hideous ones so did you have have any like ugly sweater tradition this or real ugly sweaters that you were forced to wear Well it was more of so you know I'm I'm a child I have 3 older brothers and older sister and they were all out of the house when I was born I was I was a big surprise and so it wasn't really sweaters that my parents put me in the sake of velvet like tuxedoes and like little ruffled pirate shirts and things like that and there's all these really. Believe Well pictures of me with this whole haircut with these tuxedoes and things and you know I was 3 or 4 at the time so didn't bother me that it's humiliating right so everybody has some point where they're being forced to wear clothes that they don't really want to so ugly sweaters I think everybody even if the you haven't worn them that's a that's a thing that you can always relate to that at some point your parents are going to make you wear something you don't want to wear I know the feeling I knew the feeling all right can you do that song for us so this is j.d. McPherson his band performing in our studio we're going to hear j.d. On guitar and vocals Jimmy Sutton on bass Doug Corcoran is going to be playing steel guitar and Ray has sold oh chimes So here we go. The whole thing again. Christmas tree using This is his new name no matter. This little. Mannequin g.c. I feel like if the. Green nails we snowflake next it's graduate alchemical will may be heard. 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Gimmick person who we heard on guitar and vocals and this is one of the songs that he wrote that's on the new Christmas album socks that he recorded with his and thank you for playing us in the studio for us this is so much fun thank you for having us this is so much fun for me let's take a short break here and then we'll hear more music in our studio back after this break this is Fresh Air. This is Fresh Air and if you're just joining us my guests are j.d. McPherson and members of his band and they have a new album of Christmas songs original songs that's called socks so j.d. I want to ask you a little bit about your past because you grew up on a cattle farm yeah in Oklahoma so describe it for us 160 acres or thereabouts and a frame house that my dad built upon a hill southeast Oklahoma is really pretty I think it's the thirty's part of Oklahoma that mountainous kind of this arc type landscape registered rankest cattle a 940 s. Massey Harris tractor and nothing else to do but to obsess over music and drop actors did you have to do things on the camera oh yeah what you have to do you know well you have to feed them 1st of all you know that was kind of I think that's probably the the the best. The best description is waking up at 5 in the morning for school and putting out a round bale meal in salt mix for the cows and everything so that's that's an early day for for a teenage kid so you have to do that you know and did you have to travel anything you know there's plenty of room you don't you don't have to worry about it too much so it's like I watch where you walk and my knowledge of like cattle is kind of like cattle drive Westerns like the t.v. Series rawhide you know nothing like that no you just kind of call them and they come they come really like you calling in to calm Oh yeah what's the cattle call oh I can't do it here because it's so loud but it's kind of like. Wow yeah they're helping musically to learn how to do that when your I don't know maybe that's where the 1st thing happened you know because he so you know there's nothing to do except x x that's on music so what music where you obsessing on early on well so when my my brain sort of turned on was my older brothers were teenagers in the seventy's and so their music was kind of guitar rock classic rock they call it nowadays Cream Hendrix Led Zeppelin etc and I was interested in it and I was interested in guitar and so my older brother John Aron would teach me a thing here and there and the more I kind of listened to these things I guess became curious about what they were listening to I mean I couldn't stop. Listening in reading because it was so it was so difficult to get music I would have to call you know like the mall in Fort Smith Arkansas and place an order for 3 C.D.'s that I just read about in the cream magazine that I bought the last time I was in Fort Smith So it was like this constant sort of mining and you know you read things and you find out that you know Robert Plant was into Danny joy and the Everly Brothers and Little Richard and so I don't know when I kind of stumbled on that stuff. That was kind of a really big deal. I just remember asking my brother also if he I started getting any kind of punk rock music and asking my brother hey Johnny when you were around in the seventy's did you ever listen to punk rock and he said no. So that was the twain we split up there so you know you mention punk rock did you start in a punk rock band yeah so me and my friend Michel had 3 bands with the same. Just the same 2 members basically we would we would and my my nephew eventually we taught him how to play bass so we had a trio and but yeah that was we played 2 shows one of them was cancelled. That means I think that was John Sparks as backyard. Cowboys don't really like exile you know this knocks and you had no money and right now we work so hard on it how do you know maybe why are some residents are discouraging you love this me music and there's a nobody to listen to it laughs and then not really playing it was it was just fun it's a good it's a good thing to do and you know if you're idling your idle setting at 1415 years old is frustration so you just do stuff because you're supposed to do it and it's like you against the world and and so that's what we did now you know since we're talking about Christmas because you have a new Christmas album and I think that your 1st Telecaster guitar was a Christmas gift Yeah it was actually a strata caster which is weird because I immediately shifted into being a Telecaster guy after that that was the best thing that I could have ever received I mean it was like it was just the right time I worked really hard what time was it you know it's like probably 15 a drink it was 15 and I didn't expect to get it and I had got all my my presents and I was I was you know really grateful for all of it and then all of sudden my brother brings in this white you know what was it was that the same guitar that Wayne had in Wayne's World that he wanted to buy and he said Oh yes it will be mine it literally said Wayne's World on the back of the guitar neck like it was the guitar made well for them. It was so stoked to have a real electric guitar so but then then I discovered Joe Strummer and Keith Richards and Chrissie hind all had Telecaster So I wanted to do that instead so when you were growing up on a cattle farm was it hard to. To get into town or to go to a store it sounds like you had to call stores and shopping malls and another state in order to find music yeah I'm going to say that it was really isolated the nearest supermarket was about 45 minute drive I mean there's like little little country stores here and there but you know my folks would do their shopping in like McAlester Oklahoma are whatever. Very Yeah very isolated nearest neighbor was 2 and a half miles away dirt road wow you know did you that one day I'm going to be in New York. Well I wanted to go to tall so my spice sites were like small we to go to used to go shows in Tulsa and there's a really important venue there called canes ballroom and I saw you know all my 1st concerts there it's such an important place and I knew that the Sex Pistols had played there and Hank Williams had played there so that was like I wanted to be in Tulsa who were another Christmas song you know what I mean you know Ok so let me suggest one how about bad kid from your new Christmas album socks and you can you all play that for us and the musicians here in the studio with me and. It's j.d. It's fair Sam and his band and we're hearing Jimmy Sutton on bass and Doug what are you playing on this. Baritone guitar Ok good plays a lot of instruments fun too. Well the Christmas jam is it sounded good but they did come a bad thank you. Again for the kerosene matches am good to get some just the thing at band. From the failing since I started to call him a no talent what I. Think I'm just misunderstood what you want just a band to. Previous to seeing him go we got a bad band and he's got a leather jacket over you. I guess it's just the band than. The bass is in my. Pocket full of body and clear and. Bleeding in town and. Is mama of bedbug. Has gone back to not going to be exposed to the now delirious I'm not here to get a breath and think it's pretty good. Isn't it a. Bookie . You know. I guess I'm not going to. Get offended. At a little bell and that's only. On a side and not voted on the mom. And even the toy department people waking me in the book you don't eat the batting. Kriegel that's the key goal . Ok so me they're running out here. We can. Get the parents put the bad banking you. Think in the. Boot. I guess or j.d. Macpherson and his band their new album of McPherson's new original Christmas songs is called Sox they'll play more music and we'll talk more after a break this is Fresh Air. How our Family Foundation supports w.h.y. 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This is Fresh Air I'm Terry Gross let's get back to our concert of roots and rockabilly new original Christmas songs with j.d. McPherson and his band their new Christmas album is called Sox This is his 4th album of what's sometimes called retro rock McPherson is a songwriter singer and guitarist he grew up on a cattle ranch in Oklahoma so when did you start getting interested in rockabilly. So you know some of those some of those punk bands that I was into would do we would once like Ok for instance the clash on one calling they did a song called Brandy Cadillac which was a cover Iraq and. There was a couple of bands that it covers of Cochran something else it was like pretty apparent that earliest expression of rock n roll was a big influence on the seventy's punk rockers because they were like We're tired of 15 minute you know. Synthesizer solos and stuff let's just get it back to kind of street street music you know and so it appealed to me in that way but at the same time. There was really great musicianship on those early rock n roll records because you had drummers like role Palmer guitar players like Hank Carlin and Grady I mean all these incredible musicians sometimes playing with 17 year olds who couldn't play their instruments on the same record and I just all of that really appealed to me it was like gnashing all of these worlds together and making something really exciting so I guess that's why Jimi you're interested in that too this is Jimi Sutton the bass player because like you even have your own record label and studio on a label called high style Yeah style records and it's so it's all roots music in fact I like the description on your Web site of the label it's high style focuses on American roots music that feeds the soul. So you may want to think you do is play slap bass you know and I want I want you to demonstrate how that sounds for us absolutely. Here I'll give you to my favorite This is going to be a combination between what Willie Dixon and Bill Black. Just turning the bass into a bass and a question instrument at the same time yeah basically get it 1st time I heard slap bass was I was real young and it was an episode of rawhide Kemah who was playing for some reason my head I thought was right Clark but I don't know if he plays it was a good day's ride again yeah it's a great show but you know but ya know along with a deal I think early punk rock music kind of when the whole rockabilly thing kind of surface around this gave us the Ok to. Get back and you know it's just a guy then to it I mean bands like that you know the Stray Cats kind of brought it to. To a real. You know a nationwide a worldwide a level and so you're playing slow pace where are you slapping or do you. Think. Over the fingerboard towards the bottom and I'm playing got strings right here too and I tend to sound a little better than all steel strings but I'm here this is a single pole. And this is a. Thought in my hand. And you can do. Great and you know some of the early rock n rollers used. Their base as part of the choreography let they put it under their legs or spin it around if you've done that kind of stuff on stage I used to do it all. I used to do it all and. I still surf it stand on it like I met you know this it was just ridiculous it was a lot of fun but you know I was in my. Maybe my twenty's teens and started in my teens sure. Why did it stop because everybody else started doing it and I think people expected me to do it out you know you know stand on the bass again and I just want to play better you know a certain point I thought I better concentrate on the bass a little bit more than jumping all over. The bass either well I still have that bass that I bought back in 1000. 982 I think I've purchased my 1st bass and downtown Chicago so you grew up in Chicago you had it so you and you were city boy yeah I did not live around any cows like. You 80 year how did you meet. My Space seriously yeah I was trying to get a gig in Chicago and I was a fan of his bands and I'm messaged him on My Space. I thought Oh My Space Service function and then you know. I thought Here we go again and but I think. There was something going on there and so and here we are I'm glad you got together this is Fresh Air and if you're just joining us we're doing music in our studio today and my guests are Jay did make for someone who is a songwriter singer and guitarist and members of his band and their new album is an album of original Christmas songs written by j.d. The album is called socks. But we're also hearing them play some music that isn't Christmas music and that is the case not Christmas music with the next song I'm going to ask you to do which is called you believe and performing in our studio and this will be j.d. On guitar and vocals and Jimmy Sutton on bass Doug Corcoran is going to be playing baritone guitar and Ray's So that was going to be on chimes and before you hear j.d. Introduce a song for us tell us about the inspiration for the song jubilee you. Were making the last record and I had this kind of chord progression and started and I worked on this with Ray actually. And the lyrics were written I think almost like overnight I wrote it for the next day session which is kind of a habit I have and anyway I just remember reading about song was looking in a book about Western clothes I have this book called How the West was worn and it's like fascinating to me anyway there is something I just saw the words you believe popped out and I mean wrote it right there it was really it was became once you get this kind of spark Sometimes they come really quickly I wish they always did they don't always but yeah this is Julie but in this I do believe the person is a woman Yeah Ok All right. Thanks from Western clothes to a song about a growing up. You. Want to already know the man who may have the music's playing. The joyful are going to get rid fer a little. Bit is it still a little man is there singing. There are fears this empties may never the euro 1000000 it's not a hint of being living in your mail. She will eat all right you guys tried Gary and I shared it to me says her little girl good you now feel the same way in the law was your girl until me and. Jill learn. Music that Clarence not mired in Smallville employ his heart's in feelings. When young Muslim like me think of meat sure. I can think of mean to living. A girl being chewed building. Fake up being the email. Me. So there was just an excerpt of the song you believe yeah it was the abbreviated version right because it's very hard for us 5 minutes is is very very long I'll tell you what let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us my guest is j.d. McPherson and his band and they have a new album of Christmas songs original songs that's called Sox We'll be right back this is Fresh Air. Support for n.p.r. Comes from this station and from Capital One committed to reimagining going offering savings and checking accounts that can be opened from anywhere Capital One what's in your wallet Capital One and a and from the Joyce Foundation committed to advancing racial equity and economic mobility for the next generation in the Great Lakes region learn more at Joyce f.t. And dot org. This is Fresh Air and if you're just joining us my guest is j.d. Macpherson and 3 members of his band bass player Jimmy Sutton Doug Corcoran who plays baritone guitar and also sings and Ray has spilled out who is the keyboard player and he's playing chimes for us today in addition to singing backup vocals Jason Smith the drummer of the band is not with us today because in our studio the Jones just going to be too loud and he's the drummer so thanks anyways Jason you sound great on the record so we talked a little bit about growing up on a cattle ranch. You taught school before you were a professional musician you taught 8th grade you were fired from 8th grade teaching so was I really you lasted 4 years I lasted 6 weeks so no wow I have the edge over you I want to know what you did. Everything wrong. I can if you like you classroom little and teach them anything. But why are you fine and well really the true you know the lead there is actually a little a little bit of a legend perpetuated by a big rock magazine that I was fired for giving a 15 year old boy a bad brain cd it's true I did give him the bad brain cd but the reason I was fires because I was a terrible employee in what sense. I just I'm not good at walling in the mire of that ministry of yeah I'm not good at office politics I'm not good at relating to other adults in fact I'm much but I'm actually much better with the kids you know and essentially 13 year old you know mentally anyway so it's kind of we can relate to each other is administrative You know you were. I think I've heard that word before I have and I like it. Yes I invented that were Terry. And you also one of your 1st album in fact is called signs and see me arctics close signs on the signifying signs and signifiers are part of the definition of c. Meiotic switches using signs and signifiers and symbols to understand how meaning is derived from the tax and this theme yet is this. Who invented him came up with a very arcane language to deconstruct different art forms Why did you study that well I was in art school for a long long time I got my. My bachelor's at University of Oklahoma in experimental film and video art. And then I got my Master of Fine Arts at the University of Tulsa in what they called Open Media which was everything I went crazy over there that I can't believe they let me get away with what I studied everything from. Installation to painting to card magic and but I'm just saying in 1112 years of art school you're going to have to read says sewer and Roland Barthes and you know all those things which essentially teaches you that. Up is good down as bad so why did you want to name an album signs and signals Well I have always liked I always liked language and I loved that that terminology that you see pop up on so I always thought it sounded like a like kind of a twenty's blues title sound like something that maybe Charlie Patton might say or I don't know it just seemed to be kind of both that it appealed to my art school sensibility and my. My love of kind of our kids to sling which I guess I don't know doing it sounded vaguely biblical like the signs in signifiers that tell us if you don't yeah maybe a little that too both might both my parents are preachers too so maybe there's a little that in there too are saying a lot of the blues people I mean sang about Hell yeah and damnation So your mother was my mother yeah Reacher is still is you know there was a church or the Word of Life Church in Bache Oklahoma and she's been she's been a minister for or she's seen or eighty's now she's doing a long time and was it was a big deal because we were relived that wasn't really people didn't really like that and some people I guess didn't really like that there was a woman preacher. And she's incredible lady she you know always supported my music she kept the cops from shutting us down and McAllister when my little band played our 1st gig at the public at the it or I was going to shut it down because it was loud and bad. Things down for aesthetic reasons they had it down for theirs McAlister police they don't have you know there's not a lot going on so when kids with skateboards show up and distortion boxes and singing songs by people from England I don't know they they wanted to they want to shut her down but I so I just remember my mom I don't even know she was there but she was there and she went over and talked to him and let these kids play so it was you were a family church the church where your mother preached Yeah yeah so you grew up with your mother preaching Yeah what did she preplan what we were just some memorable things from her so well there was a non-denominational service that was really heavy on music there was a lot of music I started out drums there my brother played guitar and I was you playing in your mother's turn oh yeah what music did you play. You know it wasn't like here it was it wasn't they were her kind of songs written by people like non non published material. It was so it was an interesting place like there was a lot of different kind of like I remember you know we would bring. Guys from the Jackie Brennan correctional facility. To church and got to know a lot of those guys and some of those guys played in the band on what is it now that I look back you know it was it was just cherished but you know it was a pretty interesting place Actually that sounds yeah sing a few bars of one of those songs that you know she didn't search Ira My dad used to sing a song called Cover me that I really like. And this is going to be this is me I mean literally never. Kerber me. And me x. Dan the boat. That I man told me. For that oh are. Their skins nice. Car turn me. Over to me. This Friday night yeah yeah so do Christmas songs actually have special meaning for you because your mother was a preacher well living in the countryside here no. You don't you don't go to the mall very much you know here you know in dated you know the day of thanksgiving and beyond with constant Christmas you know it was actually kind of a special thing to go to the city for me so when I did go it was Christmas time it really felt I think like maybe what they're trying to make you feel. As opposed to living in a city and it's just everywhere all the time you know I've Ever since making this record we hear we talked about a lot and you hear a lot of people saying they're really they really don't like it that never I mean they're just like tired of Christmas music or it's coming too soon or whatever and never happened to me so I always kind of really liked it I think that maybe that that sort of cynicism about. Holiday music didn't didn't really apply to me in some way that's nice Yeah I like that I like not being sentimental nothings Let's take a short break here and then we'll be back for some more music performed in our studio by j.d. McPherson and his band and their new album is an album of j.d. Christmas songs and it's called Sox This is Fresh Air. This is Fresh Air and if you're just joining us my guests are Jay Dimmock 1st sin and members of his band and their new album is an album of j.d.s. Original Christmas songs it's called Sox So when you were fired after 4 years from teaching was that like a relief for you did it open up the door to becoming a musician. Well I have a little time musician Yeah. Is it Ok if I say yes who research for. You every job I ever had I tried to somehow in Jacked music in there somewhere and I tried to figure out a way to make it about what I really want to do and so when the 4th graders were learning it type they were typing about the Collins kids or Charlie Christian and then when they were learning how to make Power Points they were you know I showed them the power point I made about the clash and we would have Google search contests where I would play music and press pause and that's when you stopped or you know they were for a moments go you get a piece of candy if you get it out you know to me it's so it was always kind of. Tiger Tiger can't change his stripes in a rock n roll Tiger. So I want to close with another that is I want you to close with another Christmas and there's a song I Love from The new album your new album sock that I'd like you to perform for us and it's called What's that sound and I think everyone in the band is going to chime in on that one yeah. This one I think is probably getting down to the root of that anti cynicism sentiment we were just speaking you know this is this is this one is about all of those nice things that you can experience during that time of year so this is Day to McPherson and his band performing in our studio and the song is what's that sound and it's also on their new Christmas album which is called socks Ok here we go. What stands. Out here that. Sound there is hear me. Around the town. Around. Me still trying to sound like. The Stand last that's right down the road now here. Is our best year the race. Card you get. It once the. Library does not. Listen to the link. To their merry way or the last that sat at the bottom right you heard that same. Joke the company going to hook you. Up with a. Look at what. Really does not. Mean. To them. Not to their feet with a. Little power. A little bit different groups around here. I hear that sound good but feel slow down to. The Stern because that is how down the road. And being in. The band. Made a one stop sound a sound bite grand time. But. The one that. Got released 2000 and. Oh that was great thank you so much for performing for us and our studio it's just been wonderful I wish you all Merry Christmas a really happy and healthy 2019 and great musical things to thank you are doing miss our pleasure our thanks to j.d. McPherson and his band their new Christmas album is called Sox tomorrow on fresh air we continue our holiday week series featuring some favorite interviews of the year we'll hear my interview with Michael Pollan about his latest book How to change your mind it's about the history of psychedelic drugs and current experiments with them in therapeutic settings to treat depression addiction and fear of death the book also recounts his own personal experiences with l.s.d. And Salissa have been hope you'll join us. Fresh Air's executive producer is Danny Miller today's concert was produced by Amy salat and was recorded by Joyce Lieberman with help from Al banks our technical director as Audrey Bentham Roberta Shorrock directs our show I'm Terry Gross all of us at fresh air wish you a Merry Christmas. cut support for n.p.r. Comes from this station and from Tyra offering a tire decision guide to customers find tires that fit their car and driving conditions with a network of more than 7000 independent installers Tire Rack dot com helping drivers find deliver install and from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the state of Joan Kroc was the quest serves as an enduring investment in the future of public radio. Half a day and thank you for listening to 89.3 g. Have got your go all your source for n.p.r. News and music discovery. P.r.g. All right it's undercurrents I'm Greg MacVicar Welcome to the new Billy of Cubans coming your way some razor cosa Fleetwood Mac. 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