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Elementary school, saturday december 15th, 2012. Were about 60 miles northeast of new york city. Welcome to cbs this Morning Saturday. We are in newtown, connecticut, just a short ways away from the school where a gunman slaughtered 20 Young Children and adults yesterday morning before taking his own life. The firehouse behind us was a Gathering Place for terrified parents who rushed to the scene after learning of the attack. It was the second worst mass killing in u. S. History after the Virginia Tech shootings in 2007, but the depths of the what is sure to be many signs of a Community Coming together. Weve learned that all of the dead have been identified of authorities with the help of pictures provided by grieving parents and family members. The bodies havy it to be removed from the school which remains a crime scene. And here in newtown, the is impossible to exaggerate and jeff glor has more on that. Jeff good morning. Reporter rebecca, good morning to you. We may never know why the shooter did what he did, but people here are trying to understand, and they are struggling. All those families im so sorry. I am so sorry you have this to deal with. Reporter for the community of newtown, connecticut, Fridays Elementary School shootings were something they couldnt even imagine. There was a bit of a challenge insulation or feeling that tragedy wont happen here and now it has, and unfortunately i think its going to define this town. And i dont understand how he could hurt innocent children. I just dont get that. What did those poor babies do to you . Thats the hard part. Reporter three of those victims were taken to danbury hospital. Two of them died there. Dr. John murphy coordinated the response. I was in the emergency room when we got the call that there would not be any more victims coming, and that was a devastating call to get. And the room fell silent when we shared the news and there was a moment of deep grief, recognizing what that meant. That most of the victims couldnt be saved. Thats correct. And so there were more. Hundreds gathered at prayer vigils across newtown where the citys grief was matched with disbelief. All i can think of is they were excite and they were getting ready to celebrate christmas. Second worst massacre in our history in my town. I think i cried out my tears. Weve all been crying since probably this morning. Reporter from parent whose children had escaped the event, a different emotion. I have no words, no words. I feel in some respect guilty because i have my baby here and i just hope anybody who needs help i feel terrible. Reporter it doesnt matter where you go here. The hospital a diner, gas station, you see it on peoples faces. Their eyes are puffy, their voices are quiet. This town and many of the families who live here will never be the same. Rebecca, anthony . And the nation grieves along with them. Jeff glor thank you. We are starting to learn the names of some of the victims of this tragedy. Margaret brennan is at the Newtown United Methodist Church with more on that. Good morning, margaret. Reporter good morning anthony. There are only a few homes here and now 27 lives to put to rest. Only two children made it to the hospital before dying. The rest died at the school alongside their teacher and principal. 47yearold dawn hochsprung was shot and killed alongside the children she cared for at sandy hook Elementary School. Parents remember her as a friend to the students. She was wonderful. Always good to the kids always a smile on her face made you feel good when you were there. Reporter she joined the school in 2010. She kept an active twitter account posting updates on the school. She tweeted safety first at sandy hook. Its a Beautiful Day for our evacuation drill. So far we know the identities of three of her students. 7yearold. Emily parker who moved to connecticut with her family just a year ago and chase kowalski survived by his parents rebecca and steve. Also among the dead School Psychologist Mary Sherlock 56 years old. She planned to retire next year. And vicki soto 27yearold first grade teacher. The first victim nancy lanza worked with Young Children. She died at home believed to have been shot dead by her own son. Margaret do we have any idea yet when the police will begin to move the bodies from the school . Reporter well state police have identified the children and they are optimistic that theyll be able to release the remains to the family later today. But no specific time frame has been released just yet, anthony. Margaret, its almost impossible to imagine any sort of recovery after this but whats your view on how this community will come together since youve grown up so close to here . Reporter well, you know rebecca, everything has come to a halt this weekend. All School Activities all sporting event,s, all social activities. As you can see behind me theres a sign on the door that says sanctuary, open. We even seen people coming in with flowers. There will be a Memorial Service and vigil around 12 00 at the Episcopal Church and there will be many many events throughout the weekend as people try to absorb what has happened. Margaret brennan. Thanks, margaret. Thank you, margaret. Were now joined by an eyewitness of this tragedy. Gene rosen is a longtime resident of newtown and he lives right next door to the firehouse behind us. His own son went to sandy hook elementary. Yesterday he took in six Young Children who were traumatized by the attack. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning to you. We know how difficult this is for you. Taking in those six children what was that like . The children were so frightened. I didnt know why they were on my lawn. I didnt know how they got there. I looked outside and i saw these six children and i thought that that they were practicing a play or cub scouts and i went and i approached them and it became clear they were so distressed. They were just so distressed. So i took them into my house, and they were crying and talking. I got them some stuffed animals because we have a lot for my grandson. Gene you didnt understand i didnt. I had no idea what had happened. There seemed to be a bus driver who i dont quite understand it picked them up and they stopped in front of my house and she said there was an incident. I had no idea what happened. And then the children started talking. I feel they had witnessed some of what some of the bloodshed. They were very brave. They were very sweet children. We started calling their parents, and they just said i cant go back to that school and they said something about their teacher, and then their parents started coming slowly. They were such sweet kids. These were Young Children. They were Young Children between 6 and 8 years old. Really. And they were they talked about a gun. I had a strong sense they had witnessed. Something. Either in passing when they were leaving. I dont know if they fled from the school. I dont know how that happened. They were on my front lawn. They were very nice kids. I want to see them again. What would you say to them if you saw them right now, gene . I would tell them how brave they were. I would tell them how brave they were and how i want to be their friend. Ill never forget them. Gene how long was it before their parents were able to get there . About 30 or 40 minutes. Really. How were they doing during that time. There was one little girl who was inconsolable. I put my arms around her. The boys and the other two girls, they were very composed. I think they were shocked. Sure. I thank were really shocked. But they they were brave. They were really sweet children. They said i cant go back to that school. What message would you like the rest of the country to hear about your experience and the children of this community . The beauty of children the strength of children. And the kindness of a community, the goodness of parents. I want to meet their parents, speak with them. This is a very good community. Its a very tight community. I was going to the diner, a small Little Country diner, and u say the children. My life changed. Gene rosen, thank you. Thank you, gene. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Thank you for being here. Thank you. There are so many questions yet to be answered about this massacre of innocent children one that haunts us all is what kind of person was adam lanza. Another, what would drive a young man to do such a thing. Lets get the latest of that part of the investigation from Senior Correspondent john miller former director of the fbi. Johns in our studio. John, what have we learned about adam lanza . What weve learned is he was a quiet boy. Friends told us as we found them through the night that he was socially awkward and in some cases he made people uncomfortable who didnt know him well and very different from his older brother who had been to college, gotten a job at a Brokerage Firm and his brother, the alleged shooter, stayed at home. A very sketchy picture is coming together. One of the things we look at all the time in these cases, anthony, is in this age of kind of living out loud that electronic footprint, peoples facebook pages, all of their tweets and messages and texts, we found scant evidence that he really had a profile out there online and the story is mounting that he was really a young man unto himself. Which is an interesting point, john because in some previous cases, similar with some of the similar elements to this one, weve seen similar issues with the person the perpetrator of the crime. When were looking for a motive which is almost impossible to understand at this point, what are Law Enforcement officials looking for here . Well, theyre actually handling this. Rebecca, its kind of interesting. The suspect is dead. Theres not going to be any trial. Yet the investigation is being carried out just as if this were a mystery, and thats because theyre getting search warrants theyre going to look to see if he has a computer can they get into it notes and notebooks at the home because theyre going to want to know a, to a certainty that no one else was involved or in the planning. They certainly anticipate that. Theyve got go through those motions and do it in the same legal way as they would another legal investigation. But, two, people always want to know in the study of these crimes and criminals a why, and they really dont have a window into that yet. And especially because this case targeted a school of children, many of them around 5 years old. Thats a big question here and what his moms relationship to the school was and his relationship to her. Thats true. And, you know, later in the show, we may talk to mary ellen otoole, the former fba profiler who may given us some insight into that. But, you know the quick sketch is he killed the mother in the home. She had worked in the school and he set off to the school. So it may be the problems between he and his mother resulted in this murder an then he set off to kill the other thing in her life that she loved. John, they took adam zlans brother into custody in new jersey yesterday. They took him away in handcuffs which i think might lead some people to suspect hes a suspect but it doesnt mean that. What do you think they were looking for from his brother . These things are very fluid, and one of the things that i said and body orr said yesterday is in the beginning these things are always gashle ed legar billion garbled. One thing is he had his brothers identification on him and there was confusion at the scene that he was identified as ryan. Then that information was given to the fbi and the police in new jersey to follow up that lead find his residence, get that locked down do a search only to encounter a young man who said, no im ryan. Thats my brother adam. During that confusion they talked to him and relayed the information back and then the instructions were lets bring him to the police station. At that point they didnt understand is this adam, is this ryan, is he the suspect, is he not the suspect . I think by then they had a handle that there had been a mixup. But putting him in handcuffs is one of those things they do where they try to sort it out and for officers safety they say, lets figure it out after the situation. Certainly very unfortunate for him to be in that position. All right. John miller in new york. Thanks, john. A few hours after word of the shooting reached the white house, president obama appeared in the briefing room. He was visibly shaken and said expected to lend empathetic moral support and a tearful president obama did just that. The majority of those who died today were children. Beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. Reporter the stars and stripes flew at halfstaff over the white house capitol as the president spoke with words of consolation. For as blessed as they are to have their Children Home tonight, they know that their childrens innocence has been torn away from them too early and there are no words that will ease their pain. Reporter after previous incidence of gun violence they have called for new firearm restricts because they would be politically difficult. When congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot two years ago and at the shooting at the Movie Theater last year in colorado. We can enhance it by making it more difficult for those who should not have weapons under existing laws make it more difficult for them to obtain weapons. Reporter but yesterday the president moved closer than ever before to call for new legislation. As a country, weve hecks to find evidence of Mental Illness. Rebecca, anthony . Bill plante thank you. Well have much more on the tragedy in newtown, but first lets take a look at the weather for your weekend. Coming up a School Leader tells us what comes next for the kids of newtown. And later, are we doing enough to protect our classrooms . Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. Coming up were going to be speaking with man whos become the face of the investigation into yesterdays School Shooting. Connecticut state Police Lieutenant paul vance. He has been working through the night, all day yesterday. And obviously a story thats continually moving and changing and trying to keep track of that. Well be right back with him. This is cbs this Morning Saturday and we are live from newtown, connecticut on this welcome back to cbs this Morning Saturday, and we are live in newtown, connecticut, devoting the entire two hours today to this tragedy that began unfolding really yesterday morning when police got a call from this community, from the sandy hook Elementary School which is not far from where we are right now. Were sitting right now in front of the firehouse. The Sandy Hook School is not far from here. And really the firehouse was a refuge for both children who had run from the school and for parents who came looking for their children. I spoke with a minister here in town yesterday who said he came to this firehouse at about 10 30 yesterday, and the scene was just sobbing. Everybody crying and a lot of chaos and everybody wondering what comes next. Right. How do we rebuild. And one of the problems here i think now a lot of the people in the community are just getting a chance to come together and sort out what happened. Much of yesterday was spent just trying to figure out what had occurred. You know they didnt even have time to respond and react. You were at a candlelight vigil last night which was really the first kind of Community Gathering after this werent you . It was. And what is important to think about here is that at this candlelight vigil, and they were all over the entire town churches synagogues religious institutions, people came by the hundreds literally overflowing through the church with grief. And to see that and to see it first hand you know that this community is coming together, but you also see their loss. And how hard its going to be. Well have more from newtown. Please stay with us. Welcome back to cbs this Morning Saturday. From newtown connecticut, im anthony mason. And im Rebecca Jarvis and were devoting two hours this morning to the tragedy at sandy hook Elementary School where a gunman killed 26 people yesterday, 20 of them Young Children. And we begin this half hour with a look at the Ongoing Police investigation of this terrible crime. And joining us is lieutenant paul vance of the Connecticut State Police. And in our new york studio cbs this morning Senior Correspondent john miller good morning to you. Can you give us some idea of whats going on in the school right now . The investigation has been going continuous all night long. Our objective was to positively all night long. It was to get closure and make itsier for them if there was a way do that. Our detectives worked well through the night. By early this morning, they were able to positively identify all the victims and make positive identification of all the victims. Lieutenant vance, when will the bodies be removed from the school . That has been accomplished. That was done overnight. We worked very closely with the medical examiner who was on the scene to kpe pe dietexpedite the process. Now were working on the exterior of the building and theyll continue to do so until theyve completed their work. Paul, its john miller in fork if you can hear me. First of all, i want to say you have done a remarkable job over the last 24 hours and i take my hat off to you for that getting information out and getting it right. Thank you. I wanted to ask yesterday when this happened the Connecticut State Police which had an Immediate Reaction Rapid Deployment for School Shootings, i think you updated it after the bethland School Massacre. It seemed to work very fast. You called up all available troopers and all offduty troopers. How soon after the incident did you have an idea of how big and how bad it was . When our teams arrived, they immediately form lated what we callive shooting teams and entered the school immediately. We have a duo objective. Number one, eradicate or stop the killing or shooting and the second certainly and most important is to find and rescue as many people as possible. Our teams did that. They were very successful and very heroic rescuing groups at a time, getting them out of harms way to a safe location and going back in and continuing that process. Unfortunately they came to the heartbreak and devastation that they encountered in two of those classrooms. Paul, just to follow up the other question that i learned after the amish School Massacre in pennsylvania, the mandatory counseling they put in for everybody who responded to the scene because of the effect it was going to have on the responders. What are the plans for the state police . Weve done that already. We have grief counselors. Certainly we provided them to the families. But we also understand the First Responders troopers fire service, and ems people that responded to that scene also needed to vent to talk and to have support. This was a devastating, heartbreaking, tragic scene. Ive been a trooper longer than i want to admit and i can tell you from firsthand experience it was absolutely horrific. Lieutenant vance, weve been hearing a number of different stories about the mom, adam lanzas moms relationship to the school. What can you tell us about that . We havent discuss thad publicly yet. There are some issues out there relative to a positive connection, but thats part and parcel of our investigation. We have investigators who will peel back the onion. But that i mean well leave no stone unturned to nemoives that may have had impact and caused this to occur. Lieutenant paul vance and john miller in new york. Thank you. Its about 35 after the hour. Lets pause for a moment for another look at the weather for your weekend. Up next, there was a safety plan at sandy hook Elementary School, but it wasnt enough. What more must be done to keep our kids safe . Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. 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Safety first. Sandy hook. Its a Beautiful Day for our evacuation drill. Were joined now. Joseph, thank you. I know this is a really difficult time for the community, so thank you for being with us. Im glad im here but i wish i didnt have to be here. What was the process yesterday of notifying parents . The School System as i understand it did robocalls to all the parents, letting them know what had occurred. There was also an appear to parents of sandy hook not to come to the school, but thats almost an appeal that you make but it isnt going to work. Parents came here as i understand it. You know the story. They evacuated the children to the firehouse behind us and then started the process of reunited parents with children. They put a the schools in the district on lockdown. In fact, most of the districts in the area put their schools on lockdown. The initial report was there were two gunmen and that was what was following. We should note here were dealing with a case where it appears that the shooter had a relationship obviously with his mother who worked at the school so he may have been known to people at the school. Im not sure thats the case. Wi us talking with the superintendent before we came on the air. Were told the mother did not have a relationship with the school. The protocol is theres a buzzer and people have to identify who they are. You know 99,999 times youre going to let them in because they have a legitimate reason to be here. Do you know if the person who buzzed in adam lanza knew adam lanza . That i dont know. Youd have to ask people here. You can talk about security all you want but until we take away guns from people that are mentally disturbed, this is going to continue going on. Its happened in schools, shopping malls, Movie Theaters. We have to deal with the problem that we have here. And, you know, securitys going to get beefed up at every school in the country, im sure but thats no guarantee this kind of thing cant happen again until we deal with the fact that people that are disturbed are getting their hands on guns and you can see what happens. In the meantime you have a lot of children who are going to be very upset by this. The superintendent told me this school is not going to be available for a while. Shes also been told its very important to get the other children back into school before christmas. So shes going to have to make arrangements. A number of schools in the area are offering school if needed. She might have to pull double sessions so the kids can use the building. Theres going to be grief counselling going on. Thank you for taking the time to be with us today. Thank you. Up next more on School Safety. Well ask an expert what must be done to protect our kids in the classroom. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. 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The mass murder in newtown, connecticut, is by no means an isolated incident. Sadly its a footnote in a can nation that was once thought of as safe school. Friday morning, the shooting shocked the newtown, connecticut, community and the nation. They may be the youngest victims of a School Shooting but sadly they are far from the first. In the late 1990s School Shootings became all too common. In towns like west paducah, kentucky jonesboro, arkansas and springfield, oregon. By april 1999 after the massacre at Columbine High School in littleton, colorado, left 12 students and a teacher dead the issue of School Violence had become a national issue. Just two months after the shooting, u. S. Secret service and the department of education initiated a report on School Violence, and in 2002 they released the Safe School Initiative implications for the prevention of School Attacks in the United States. It looked at 37 incidents of targeting School Shootings in the u. S. Dating back to 1974. It asked could we have 9 11 that these attacks were being planned and what can be done to prevent future attacks from occurring. The increased awareness, however, didnt stop School Shootings. Students were shot and killed on an indian reservation in 2005 a oneroom amish classroom in 2006, and the campus of Virginia Tech in 2007. Just this year three died at a high School Shooting in ohio. Ken trump is the president of the National School and safety and Security Services and an expert on School Violence. He joins us from cleveland this morning. Good morning. Good morning. Let me start. As somebody whos studied this whole issue, what was your reaction to what you saw yesterday . I have 25 years in the School Safety prevention but im also a father. I was actually standing on the playground of my own childs school. My children are at a school very similar to the age groups and its a punch in the gut. Its a situation where every parent across the country is struck. And while we had columbine and hoped and prayed that wed seen the worst, i think we saw something a little bit worse than columbine yesterday. And, ken, as i remember from columbine around the country, there were calls for schools to beef up security, people wanting to make sure that their children were safe, understandably. Whats been done since then as far as the progress goes in making our schools safer . There was a significant amount of improvement in School Security and Emergency Planning. Schools caught up with decades of neglect in basic security and crisis planning after columbine, and in the months and years after the columbine incident we made a great deal of progress and a lot of that has been grained. Having crisis plans, teams, practicing lockdown drills, controlling access to your building, training the staff. In the last few years, five or six years, weve seen some of those progress due to cutbacks and resources both on counselors, Mental Health as well as security personal Emergency Planning and training. Theres been an enormous focus on p. E. T. Scans and forms and bunts and schools and we have to keep School Safety on the front burner. Ken, as the School Superintendent here just pointed out, i mean theyve beefed up security here as well. I mean and then you have an incident like this and you have to ask yourself you know how much more condition schools really do . Well, we dont want to teach kindergartenners to throw pencils and back packs and armed intrierdin intruders and metal detectors at every door. What we need is mental detectors. Recently weve seen the lone wolf actors in theaters malls, places of worship and its unrealistic to think that we may not see that same type of behavior cross into our schools. The one thing that i think thats important is parents need to send their children to school on monday morning. It will be the safest day in School History because of heightened awareness, but as a country and schools and communities, we have to look six months, six years out and make sure were still having those conversations and sensitivity as we are in the upcoming days. We cannot forget. Ken trump. Thank you, ken. Thank you, ken. We appreciate it next. Coming up next after the shooting began, six young survivors ran and they wound up on a nearby drive way. The man who found them shares his story. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. [ female announcer ] unlike other sour creams, daisy is 100 pure with nothing else added. Meals are simply better with a dollop of daisy. Do a dollop do, do a dollop of daisy it was like a red rash. Very sore looking kinda blistery. Like somebody had set a bag of hot charcoal on my neck. I was a firefighter for 24 years. But, i have never encountered such a Burning Sensation until i had the shingles. I remember it well. I was in the back yard doing yard work. I had this irritation going on in my lower neck. I changed shirts because i thought there was something in the collar of the shirt irritating my neck. And i couldnt figure out what was going on. I had no idea it came from chickenpox. I always thought shingles was associated with people. A lot older than myself. I can tell you from experience it is bad. Its something you never want to encounter. For more of the inside story visit shinglesinfo. Com gene rosen rejoins us now. And as we mentioned earlier, he lives right next to the firehouse behind us. As the shooting began, he found six Young Children at the end of his driveway. They were crying and they had been inside sandy hook elementary and witnessed some of the carnage. Gene, theres so much more to talk about, and we sincerely appreciate you being with us here today again. We were talking a little bit ago about these six children who came into your house. Some of them were inconsolable. What conversation were you having with them at that point . What were they telling you that they had seen. They just kept saying that they couldnt go back to the school. I think one of them said they had seen some blood. One of them said two boys were talking about guns and one of them said there was a big gun and a little gun, and i was absolutely i couldnt believe what they were talking about because i had no knowledge. You hadnt heard the reports yet. I had not heard the report. Right. The person that accompanied them was a bus driver who i think might have picked them up somehow after they were fleeing and as they began talking, i realized something really horrible happened. They called their parents from your house. I asked them for their numbers. Their parents came and i hugged their parents. It was so good to see their parents. They were so happy. They were so happy. I was about ready to go to a diner, a local diner here in newtown in sandy hook and all of our lives have changed in just a few minutes. The communitys still here. Good. I like being here. I like going to the diner. Its an old vestage of our culture, a family diner. It was just up the street. And i never got up to the diner. Families are so important to this community and theyre a big part of why this community is so special. What was it like to watch these Children Reunited with their own . It was so it was just i i didnt know who to hug, the children or the parents, so i just hugged them both. My arms were not big enough to get around them all. Wi us so happy that they saw their children and their children were immediately talking about them. And the children were so fortunate you were there. Thank you. Thank you. Later theyre going to advice us on gun control. For the rest of you, your local channel. Stay with us. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. And were back. Anthony mason and i are here in newtown, connecticut and were also joined by john miller who has been following this right from the beginning. Yesterday, john, i was struck by you and i were sitting at the anchor desk for the evening news around 11 30 and you were getting these phone calls from law enforcent about it. We were looking at each other in disbelief. It was at that moment john hard to imagine that those numbers could be real, and yet here we are sitting here today and they are. Thats right, rebecca. And i recall vividly these texts were coming to my phone, 27 dead 14 of them children. I didnt want to say the numbers out loud because i thought this must be a mistake, but i pushed the phone over to you and showed you the Text Messages and i said, you know this cant be true true, and as it unfolded it turned out to be true and worse. And youre a father john. You have children about this age. I remember looking across at you. Youve been in this business and youve been covering these stories both as a journalist and in the fbi as an investigator. It must be tough to hear the news. It is. No matter how much experience you have in Law Enforcement ive been on cases where children have been killed. As a father it affects you differently than it does or would before. Well be right back. Stay with us. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. Welcome to cbs this Morning Saturday. Im anthony mason. And im Rebecca Jarvis and we are live in newtown, connecticut, this morning with cbs News Coverage of the massacre of Young Children at sandy hook Elementary School. We begin this half hour with cbs this morning Senior Correspondent john miller whos in new york with the very latest on the investigation of yesterdays attack. John youve been following this almost from the moment that it began. What have you learned . What were learning is investigators have more questions to answer than they have answers for them and theyre going down a path of trying to establish some critical things. Number one, they need a time line and a pathway of exactly what occurred in that School Starting with how did the suspect get in. They had heard reports that he showed up at the door identified himself, and was buzzed in. We have reports that he shot out a window and walked through the glass or opened the door there. In these things its very confusing because these police when they made their immediate entry, they may have taken out the glass. So theyve really got to sort through it. They also need to know what was the motive behind this. The answer may not resonate with us when we finally learn it but part of the investigation is going to be to find out what drove it and how long the individual who carried this out, adam lanza, was involved in planning it. Did he give others warning . That is very typical when people send out Warning Signals that theyre doing Something Like that and theyll be looking at that. And then the issue of the guns how were they registered to his mom, what did they look like how did he get access of those. All questions theyre looking to answer. This suspect adam lanza, youve described him as someone who was living with his mom at home. He had left his room in immaculate condition, spotless. And he also was reportedly wearing a bulletproof vest at the scene of the crime where he was found dead. What more can you tell us about that . Well, investigators who did the search of the house yesterday, they had exogent circumstances. They took a step back and said were going do thentry very carefully. What we learned in aurora is in some cases these are booby trapped by the shooter, so working with the bomb squad from the Connecticut State Police and the s. W. A. T. Team they did a very cautious entry and then they found that the mother had been shot in the face. And when you consider this was a homicide committed by her son, that is a very personal very aggressive way from offender character riis sticks speaks to the idea that he certainly had serious issues with his mother. Then when they get to his room they see that it is not what they expect from the room of maybe a 20yearold if youve about ever been in a college dorm. It was one investigator who was inside. It was described as immaculate. Everything was folded put away everything had a place, nothing strewn around. And it seems telling in some way of the organized personality of someone who would go to such intricate and Detailed Planning for such a terrible crime. John one thing were hearing from School Officials this morning is, you know how do we get at the issue of Mental Illness in people and preventing Something Like this earlier than, you know at the front door of the school obviously. Are there warning signs for people like this . Well, there are. And weve learned an awful lot about them. There is, you know what we call pathway behavior and i think when we talk to our former fbi profiler later, shell discuss this. Thats when they start to take the actions that show theyre going down the path of actually doing something. That may be obtaining the weapons, buying large amounts of ammunition, going to the sites, and doing their walkthroughs to plan how theyre going to do it. But theres also what they call warning behavior. Thats when they tell friends, whether its on facebook or whether its in person soon youll see im going to get even or im going to teach people a lesson, comments like that. And in almost every case we see warning behavior and in many many cases we see people ignore that because they just dont believe it. They dont believe the person intends to do it or is capable. More and more often now were seeing where people are hearing that and have taken that lesson. We recently saw a case where a young man planned to shoot up a Movie Theater at a premiere of a vampire movie, and it was his own mother who said hes bought these weapons, hes bought this ammunition, and i think hes going do something, and that was prevented. All right. John miller in our new york bureau. Thank you, john. Thank you, john. The issue of gun control was barely mentioned during the president ial campaign but is it possible that the connecticut School Shooting could alter the political equation in washington and prompt the first serious debate on guns in years . Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well. When president obama made his remarks about the shootings in connecticut, he was standing in the james s. Brady briefing room, named after the former press secretary who was injured when a gunman opened fire on president reagan in 1981 and whose name became synonymous with gun control. The brady act requiring background checks, was signed into law almost 20 years ago. The last significant gun control legislation, the assault weapons ban, expired in 2004. As a country, we have been through this too many times. On friday the president sent a clear signal to congress that gun control must be addressed on a national level. Were going to have to come together to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. Theres another precedent for the white house seizing the moment for gun control, the assassinations of president kennedy, Martin Luther king and robert kennedy, led to the gun control act of 1968. New york mayor michael bloomberg, a staunch gun control advocate yesterday took the president to task on the issue. The country needs him to send a bill to congress to fix this problem, calling for meaningful action is not enough. We need immediate action. But friday was a day to remember the fallen. The majority of those who died today were children. They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduations weddings kids of their own. So will this tragedy make a real difference in gun control . Lets get some perspective from someone whos followed it since the kennedy assassination. Chief White House Correspondent and face the nation bob schieffer. Bob, good morning to you. Do you think this rely changes things . I think when we saw the president say we must come together and take some meaningful action i took him at his word but what will that action be and what is possible . What has happened here rebecca, after the assassination of kennedy and later with the assassination attempt on ronald reagan, we began to have a serious debate on gun control, but the National Rifle association, perhaps the most influential lobby in washington declared war on any kind of gun control, and in 2004 when the a assault bans weapon ran out they said well the war is over and the nra has won. Since then politicens democrats and republicans have been extremely reluctant to talk about this. During the last session of congress, no gun control legislation of any kind. When i say gun control, im talking about things like tightening background checks, that sort of thing. Nothing got out of committee. There was no vote on the floor as far as i can think of on that kind of legislation. So this is going to be a very very difficult thing to do. But, you know the question we have to ask ourselves is what happened yesterday . Are we as a society going to accept that as normal . As something that we cant do anything about . And i think that is going to be the base question that we have to ask as a people. Bob, its not clear from what the president said yesterday how prepared he is to make it an issue. There was a statement from the mayor of new york calling again for gun control. Hes one of the few Public Officials even talking about it. As you point out, there isnt even a conversation about this going on in washington, is there . No. I Mean Congress is literally afraid to take on the National Rifle association because they know that if they make any kind of statement, a member knows, that even suggests some sort of limits that the National Rifle association is going to pour hundreds of thousands of dollars in a campaign to defeat them. We were trying to line up people to be on face the nation tomorrow to talk about this. This is the time when you call people and they suddenly seem unavailable, not only for comment, but certainly unavailable to present themselves on television. It just underlice how serious this is and how feared the National Rifle association is. We talk about the washington aarp, many of whom are on Social Security, the powerful lobby, the energy lob ibylobbies. Youve seen all types of lobbies spring up tot to raise taxes. I think the National Rifle association is more feared than any of those associations. That is a very interesting point. Bob, thank you. Bob schieffer. Bob will have more tomorrow morning on face the nation. Also were going to take another quick look at the weather for your weekend. And up next what was goej three the mind of the shooter. Will we ever know his motivation . A former fbi profiler shares her insights. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. [ male announcer ] campbells green bean casserole. 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And then you ask yourself how could someone do this why would someone do this. Its very difficult for people like you and me to really comprehend how you can possibly target so many children who are so young, but that may be the very reason that they were targeted because theyre very vulnerable, theyre fragile, theyre helpless they dont fight back theyre really contained in those classrooms they cant run. So from the perspective of the shooter, they make perfect victims, perfect targets. Its a horrible thing to say, but behaviorally thats probably the element for him. Mary ellen otooleh otoole, thank you for helping us out in this. Youre welcome. One of the thing that strikes me, one of the characteristics and i learned a lot of this from you is people tend to lash out at the people in the world that they think have shut them out or isolated them. That means killing coworkers at the office or fellow students of their own age at a high school for instance. What does it signal or say in this instance where a defender kills children he probably never met or knew and certainly werent the source of his issues in his life . Thats right. These children did nothing to him. They were, for the most part john, they would have been strangers to him. Based on what is known right now, there does appear to be some relationship that this shooter most likely had with that school and that relationship could have come from the mother if she worked there, which seems to be the impetus here. So if those children were important to the mother going in and kill as whats important to the mother could have been one of the primary motives behind targeting those specific children in those specific classrooms. If i might follow up the other thing weve always talked about together is warning behavior. In almost every case the killer sends out signals before theyre going do something. Do you expect to see that here even from an individual who, as this report shapes up seemed to be a bit of a loner . I do expect to see that here. And isnt that the characterization that we hear so often on these shooters theyre loners and somewhat a recluse. However, i do expect to see warning behaviors. And, john i expect to see multiple warning behaviors that were either ignored, rationalized, explained away. But theyre going to be there. And i think as the investigation continues, those will be revealed. Which, mary ellen, you bring up such an interesting and good point because oftentimes this is what happens. There are warning signs, they are ignored, and its hard to separate the true criminal from a person who just happens to have really negative warning signs in their life which never comes to fruition. Well thats right. And when we talk about warning signs to Law Enforcement or to the schools, what we tell them is look dont vet these warning signs yourself. Call Law Enforcement. Let them vet them, take a look at them investigate them. Because you may have just one piece of the puzzle with the warning sign that you saw, and with all those pieces Law Enforcement would be able to say this is a serious threat or theres nothing to it. But dont vet that warning behavior on your own. Mary ellen otoole, thank you so much. We appreciate your insight. And up next cbs News State Department correspondent Margaret Brennan returns to newtown. Her personal story of growing up nearby and how the tragedy has impacted her family and friends. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. [ game announcer ] touchdown and here comes the dunk. [ male announcer ] everyone loves to dunk. [ game announcer ] will he dunk it . Yes, he will. [ male announcer ] mcdonalds tender, juicy chicken mcnuggets in creamy ranch and spicy buffalo sauce. Just 4. 99 for 20 of your Favorite Chicken mcnuggets. [ game announcer ] will he dunk it . Yes, he will. 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But because as you said this is not a gun culture area that made it even more shocking. Reporter it was. It was one of the strange things coming up here from washington journalists coming up to cover the story. So often when we talk about these stories its out west or areas where hunting and more obvious cultures are integrated. Here i was listening the people and im shaking up hearing people talk about it. I know that. The first thing i did yesterday is pick up the phone and find out where my cousins here who were in lockdown at the catholic school. One of your cousins is 12 years old . Reporter junior high age. When youre talking to your family and theyre on the ground here, especially in the initial stages of this what were they telling you . What was the feedback . Reporter we were just trying to find out where people were and if they were okay and parttime were trying to find out what they could do. Thats what was so disappointing is people were sent home. There was no one to help. There were so few people. One of the kids actually made it to the hospital who later died and one of the adults as well. So its very strange. My family is struggling with what they tell their kids and how they explain this and whether they go back to school or not. I mean most activities have been canceled this weekend, so there isnt a lot of distraction from all of this right now. Right. Well, i imagine its hard to be distracted around here from this. And i imagine also in many ways the community at this point is still absorbing all the information before they can really start to come to grips with whats happened. Reporter yeah. I mean i was eating dinner last night at the restaurant we were at. There were so many people just sharing stories. The bus driver who drove these kids to school yesterday was there at the bar and talking to people. I mean you dont want to go up and bother people as a journalist, and i didnt want to be that yesterday. So its its a shock. I mean people are just really sort of trying to absorb and just get through, i think, is what i know from my connections here. What do you think that the rest of the nation whos watching can do to help them rebuild . I dont know frankly. I mean i dont know what your next day is. I dont know how they explain to some of these little kids what happened. There are mandatory debriefings you have to deal with. When youre dealing with a small child, theres a lot. Thanks margaret. Thanks margaret. Stay with us. Well be right back. And were back with Margaret Brennan. Margaret margaret, we were talking about the fact that you have family that lives in this town lives nearby. You grew up not far from here. You had one of the first emails that i got from cbs news. Is it an uncle who worked with ems or somebody in your family was seeing some of the first responses to this. The first phone call was to find out where my cousins were because theyre here in newtown. My cousin fiona attends st. Rose school. I was calling to find out what they were hearing or doing and it was so strarj to see the headlines flash. One of our producers, i said can you believe it happened . Right. Nobody believes its possible. Reporter no. When i think of newtown, i think of the town hall 2 movies places i went to my dance recitals growing up. You dont think of Something Like this happening to a place that you have connections to. As you can see, youve walked around. Its smalltown feel and people know each other. Theres no anonymous sense of loss here. I think everyone knows someone. Its a small town. Its a small state. What gene rosen who lives across the school pointed out this morning is in a second this whole incident changed him. Its different. One of the nurses i was talking to yesterday said she was scheduled to work the night shift and she didnt sleep all day because she couldnt walk away from her Television Set even though she knew she had to go in and do her work. People were so shocked and frozen. And the local churches. They were planning christmas welcome back to cbs this Morning Saturday. From newtown, connecticut, im Rebecca Jarvis . And im anthony mason. Were here to bring you full coverage of the tragic shooting attack at the sandy hook Elementary School that left 20 children and seven adults dead before the gunman killed himself. Cbs news justice correspondent bob orr joins us now from our washington bureau. Good morning, bob. Good morning, anthony and rebecca. Today is not any easier than yesterday. Im afraid to say i dont believe we have a great deal a lot of new answers as to what really went on here. We do know at this point the investigators are very confident that one gunman carried out this atrocity. Thats adam lanza, the 20yearold man that weve been talking about. We know that he used three weapons that were apparently purchased legally and registered in the name of his mother. A couple of the wells were semiautomatic pistols, a glock 9 millimeter and a sig sauer. Also a m223. There were conflicting reports. First report says the gun may have been in his mothers car in the parking lot, but later that was called into question when some. 223 casings, shell casings were found inside the school. Now theres a belief that the weapon was directly involved in the attack. Whatever it was, this was a young man armed to the teeth, went to a very specific target very undefended target and very much at will had his way there. It was an awful morning. Bob, at this point, the shooters relationship to the school is a little more shady at this point if you will. It looked initially like his mother was a teacher a school. Now, we know she wasnt a teacher and its not even clear if she worked there. Is that correct . Yeah. In these types of stories, anthony, you have very fluid accounts. The investigators are trying to piece them together in real time and were trying our best to keep up with that. Yeah, there are conflicting reports as to what her relationship to the school might have been. Some say she may have been an aide working or volunteer working at the school. But it is clear that adam lanza was familiar with the target. When he got to the school he was somebody who understood the buildings layout, knew where he was going apparently. And this is important because it seems as if according to investigators, that he went to a specific section of the school and targeted for whatever reason, whatever the reason might have been targeting two specific classrooms of Young Children. So as they work back through the planning, whatever it was that led him to do this. Among the questions they were trying to answer is why the school, why was this a target. Was he trying to carry out some kind of revenge in his mind something against the target that may have been important to his mother . These are all the things that investigators are trying to untangle. Bob this has become a National Story at this point and it has national consequences. How are the federal authorities supporting the local authorities in this investigation . You know its an interesting point, rebecca. A lot of times federal official s accuse the local authorities. In this case they have the full support across the spectrum of Government Agencies from washington. The atf for example, they are now tracing the guns, trying to check the ownership and when they were purchased and how they were maintained that kind of thing. Of course, the fbi has been involved with evidence assistance. So while it is a local and state investigation, federal officials are involved as well. Bob or in our washington bureau. Thank you, bob. Thank you, bob. Were going to take one last look at your local weather. Heres the weather for your weekend. Up next, 13 years ago, another deadly School Shooting shocked the world. Now one family devastated by columbine is speaking out on the newtown killings. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. This cold season, nasal congestion wont slow me down. I made the clear choice. Im getting claritin clear with claritind. Nasal congestion keep me away . Not since i made the clear choice. Nondrowsy claritind. Decongestant products on the shelf can take hours to start working. Claritind starts to work in just 30 minutes. I cant wait hours for a nasal decongestant. Thats why i made the clear choice and got claritind. It has the best decongestant for colds. This cold season, get claritind at the pharmacy counter. Live claritin clear. [ female announcer ] if you care for someone with mild to moderate alzheimers youll also care about our new offer. 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Many, many children will be affected and they could be anywhere in the world. And any child exposed to the news even about whats happened has the potential of being affected. Most children are going to be resilient. Theyll get through this. But they will need a certain kind of support and comfort and being there from their parents. This is a little bit tricky and we want to make sure we answer the questions that the children ask, but were limiting information in certain ways. But theres a lot we can do to make this easier and more possible for them to get through this without any serious longterm issues. And you need to comfort them even if they dont ask questions, right . Theres a lot of nonvernbal communication that comes from children as parents know and something we need to be extremely attentive to. Children stop talking or become agitated. They might become more aggressive with their siblings or have any behavioral change you can think of including sleep problems, they cant sleep at night, theyre having nightmares. But all of these issues are things that parents should be aware of and those are signals to the parents that we really need to get close, we need to be reassuring, and we need to be providing information that is absolutely relevant to their particular age and developmental stage. And i think by doing those things we can really help children get through what is going to be a very difficult time, especially a lot of younger children. Lee, theres really no howto booklet for dealing with Something Like this. Being at the vigil, i talked to so many parents who had so many different viewpoints what they would tell their children how they would handle this at home. I wonder what youre doing in your home with your children. Last night was a big night in my house because my 12yearold twins were going to their first boy girl dance. So the television was on and i walked into the room and i just turned it off, and my girls had a lot of questions but they were sort of general. Are we safe. And i actually one twins response was very different from the other, and so my answer is always broad brush strokes. Dont give them any more information than you need. But, of course the first question is mom, can this happen in our school and my big answer to parents is dont lie to them. You cant pretend you have all the answers, but what i say to my kids is i believe youre safe and were doing everything in our town to keep you safe. But you cant tell your kids that no harm willer come to them or they will never see a bad thing. To keep it general, we hugged we touched, did their hair. Its all those Little Things that noenlt wasanthony was talking about. Lee, its interesting. Even when you answer the question the first time its still there a number of days later. Youve got to persist on this dont you . I think the lingering days, you feeling or hor are you doing, the openended questions to get them to be more specific. The last thing i want to do is ask them any of the specifics of the details of this tragedy. Doctor, if youre personally upset, do you hide that from your children . Do you share it with them . Well, actually you need to remain as calm and under control as possible. Every adult human being, adult parent, grand parent, is feeling the trauma of this tremendous event. Its very important when interacting with your children that you remain calm and reassuring and as stable as possible. Its not that you dont acknowledge that youre upset. You can do that at the same time being reassuring and a stable figure. They call adults buffers for serious trauma like this for children and its very important that we see ourselves acting to protect our kids and doing so may be difficult. But expressing the fact that this is a horrible event, you feel terrible about it at the same time you feel like youre reassuring them and the closeness that lee was talking about, that has to be done all at the same time. It can come up days weeks, months from now as to the behaviors and questions and whatevers going on with their children. Just stay close and stay alert to any of the signals that may indicate their children are being more effective than you might think. One of the things i worry about in this culture with video games and movies and were so exposed to violence is its really important to show the children that youre em pathic. So yesterday when my daughter came up to me on the couch i had tears in my eyes. I said honey, im so, so sad. I want you to thing about these families. Its a real thing. 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The attack on the sandy hook Elementary School here in newtown is drawing comparisons to past tragedies, especially the columbine high School Shootings 13 years ago in colorado. Daryl scotts daughter rachel died that day. His son craig was inside the school and witnessed his friends being killed. Daryl scott now works to prevent School Violence and he joins us now from denver. Thank you so much for joining us, a different good morning. Youre welcome. Thank you. It is nearly impossible for anybody to even comprehend what youve gone through, but the people here are going through it now, and i wonder in retrospect looking back what you would tell them how does it get better . You know they dont need the advice of someone other than their family and friends, but they really need their family and friends right now. Theyre going to go through several stages beginning with shock and disbelief and a certain amount of anger. You know, theres just a whole gambit of emotions. But what they need the most is just family and friends right now now. Its something you never get over but does it get better with time . It does get easier with time. Theres still days. If anyones lost a child, they know you never completely heal from that. But those initial months in the first year or two are by far the worst and eventually youre able to look back and remember the good times an celebrate the life of the person that you loved and lost, and thats what we do on a daily basis. We share rachels story with millions of kids around the country. You have poured so much time and energy into columbine redemption. Tell us about the work youre doing and the progress that youre making. Well, we have a program called rachels challenge that reaches about 3 Million Students a year and we believe we are a prevent program, but were not a crisis intervention program. We dont help were not able to help in the middle of a crisis but we have seen seven School Shootings prevented in the last five years and several suicide preventions. We do that. We have 54 presenters that go in to schools from kindergarten all the way through college and we have 28 different programs. Do trainings, assemblies, a lot of interaction with young people. We provide online materials for them as well as teacher training. So our Program Reaches about 3 Million Students in the United States as well as several thousand around the world. Daryl scott in denver. Thank you for joining us and thank you for what you do. Well, thank you. Well be right back. Youre watching cbs this Morning Saturday. Why let constipation slow you down . Try miralax. Mirlax works differently than other laxatives. It draws water into your colon to unblock your system naturally. Dont wait to feel great. Miralax. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. I get congested. 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Americas softest tissue. Before we leave, stay with cbs news and cbs. Com for continuing coverage on the newtown shooting tragedy. Tonight at 10 00 eastern time, tragedy in newtown, a 48 hours special report. We have been in newtown for less than 24 hours. We want to say thank you to newtown as a community. First of all, they are housing a number of journalists, and were here to cover this story. It is obviously a very sad day here, and you can feel it in the late autumn air and see it on the faces of the people who live here everywhere around you. We leave you this saturday morning with a look back at the events of the past day with prayers for healing for those touched by this terrible tragedy. Evil visited this community today. Earlier today, a number of our citizens beautiful children, had their lives taken away from them. Sandy hook school. Caller indicating she thinks theres someone shooting in the building. The majority of those who died today were children. Beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. Youre continuing to hear what you believe to be gunfire. Weve got bodies here. They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduation, weddings kids of their own. We just ran to the fire station, and we you just saw lots and lots of kids and crying and parents, and you just search, for your childs teacher, for your childs face. I heard mommy mommy, and there he was, sitting there waiting for us. What an amazing moment after going through the sheer terror of that to see my son alive. Im just so grateful to the teacher who saved him. You think the teacher saved his life. She definitely did. While these parents were waiting for their children to come out, they thought that they were, you know still alive, and theres 20 pavements that were just told that their children are dead. It was awful. All those families i am so sorry. I am so sorry you have this to deal with. Nothing makes sense like this. Its senseless. Right now we have 20 new saints, 20 beautiful angels, a 20 people who are angels for all the days to come. All i can think of is they were about to they were excited and they were getting ready to celebrate christmas. Little 5 and 6yearold kids, their lives were stripped from them. These neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. Were all in this together. Well get through it. There are no words. There are no words. I have no words that makes the pain of what happened today easier to bear. May god bless the memory of the vim tims and in the words of scripture, heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds. We came out here in the dark this morning and it struck me that as we felt the sun come up on our backs and things began to wark up and its a very bright day here in newtown, connecticut, but its also a very dark day because theyre only just beginning to really see what happened here. We still dont know the names of the victims. The bodies are still in the school. There is still much to sort through in these next few days and its going to be and christmas is still coming up. Right around the corner. And i think for so many families here, you know remembering christmas is always going to mean remembering this. Yeah. It is going to be incredibly tough on this community and so many communities. You saw last night at the vigils. People from all over the state came. Senator blumenthal the governor, even the pope sent a message to the people here to st. Rose church. And i think one of the if you can call it a happier message, its looking at the teachers and what those teachers in the sandy hook classrooms did for those children. Amazing things. Amazing things. Thank you for being with us this saturday morning. Our prayers go out to the people here in newtown, connecticut. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com young lives shattered after that shooting inside an theres 20 parents that were just told that their children are dead. Young lives shattered. New details this morning about the gunman and the heros who helped save lives. An emotional conversation over gun control laws here in the u. S. It is 7 oclock saturday morning, december 15th. Thanks for joining us today. Its a difficult day. It has been 24 hours now. People in newtown connecticut and