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Based upon what we have seen and how they were equipped, there had to have been some degree of planning that went into this. Another mass shooting rocks the nation. The shooting in San Bernadino, california left 14 people dead and 17 injured. I was just numb. I was just in disbelief. After the attack, the suspects were killed in the shootout. This was a fierce gun battle, fierce gun battle. Law enforcement agencies are working to figure out the exact motive. The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of Mass Shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. A report about the secret Service Uncovered more than 140 breaches. Investigators called the secret service an agency in crisis. Britain has carried out air strikes in syria after parliament approved attacks on isis. Do we work with our allies to degrade and destroy this threat or do we sit back and wait for them to attack us . Authorities made multiple arrests in connection with the Corruption Scandal engulfing fifas governing football body. The verdict against Oscar Pistorius will be thrown out and he will be resentenced. A shooting captured on cellphone video as officers shot and killed a man. Two pilots were killed and an Apache Helicopter went down in tennessee, near fort campbell. All of that matters. Were all thinking about the current and ongoing tragedy in california. In washington, dc, House Speaker paul ryan began the capital Tree Lighting ceremony with a moment of silence. On cbs this morning. Weve only been on the air for nine months and it baffles me that we have to talk so often about Mass Shootings and tragedy. This is really unacceptable. Its just so overwhelming. Its happening too [ bleep ] much, all right . Announcer this mornings eye opener is present by toyota. Lets go places. Welcome to cbs this morning. As you wake up in the west, we begin again with the news of a massacre in america. This time a deadly rampage turned a Holiday Party into horror. It happened wednesday at a social Service Center in San Bernadino, california. 14 people were killed. Another 17 are hurt. Hundreds of people evacuated the complex after the shooters fled. The suspects are a married couple. Police killed them a few hours later in a violent confrontation about a mile from the shooting scene. One officer was wounded. We have a team of correspondents covering all angles of this story. Norah odonnell is on the scene at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernadino. Norah, good morning. Reporter hey, good morning to you and charlie. This was supposed to be a happy occasion. It was a holiday banquet. But it suddenly turned into an active shooter scene. Were learning more this morning. Theyre keeping it cordoned off as theyre going through, investigating. We also have new information about the husband and wife team who police say organized this massacre. Were going to start with carter evans, who is here with me. Carter, good morning. Reporter good morning, norah. The two gunmen were killed in a shootout with police just hours after the rampage. There was one Police Officer that was injured in that shooting. Hes in the hospital, but his injuries are not lifethreatening. As for the reason behind this massacre, thats still a mystery. The response out here is immense. The first reports of gunfire came around 11 00 a. M. Local time. Police say there were two assailants, a man and a woman. They came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission. Each suspect had a long gun, a pistol, tactical type clothing that was loaded with magazines, extra magazines for a gun fight. A bunch of shots, shots going off like crazy, one right after the other. Reporter this mans wife could see the building where San Bernadino county employees were attending a Holiday Party. What did your wife see . The guy outside dressed all in black with a big gun, just shooting at the window. Reporter terry petits daughter holly texted him from inside the building. Shooting at my work. People shot. In the office waiting for cops. Reporter but shes okay . Pray for us. [ sirens ] reporter some of the injured were treated at a Triage Center out while others were being evacuated by Law Enforcement, as caught on this cellphone video. Just be cool, okay . Reporter the assailants escaped and authorities placed all local government buildings on lockdown. They recorded a black suv fleeing the scene, and approximately four and a half hours later, at around 3 30 local time, police, hunting for the killers, riddled a black suv with gunfire in a shootout caught on video. One guy dead in the back of a car. Reporter People Living nearby quickly took cover. We ducked down. They started shooting again down the street over there. Just a rain of bullets everywhere. Reporter the two suspects killed were identified as 28yearold u. S. Born syed farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik. Authorities still havent determined a motive for the assault. I think that based upon what we have seen and based upon how they were equipped, there had to have been some degree of planning that went into this. So i dont think they just ran home, put on these types of tactical clothes, grabbed guns, and came back on a spur of the moment thing. Reporter now, three explosive devices were found inside the building. They were all connected together. And the bomb squad last night detonated those devices. Norah, as you know, more than a dozen people were injured in the shooting. Theyre still in the hospital. But were not getting any word on their conditions right now. Reporter well get an update later this morning. Carter, thank you so much. We mentioned that authorities are still trying to find more about those shooters. The suspects suv is still sitting this morning where Police Caught up with it a mile or so from where we are. In fact you can see just how badly it was damaged during the shootout. So authorities want to learn everything they can about these shooters. Soon after the massacre, police raided a home in nearby redlands that is connected to the married couple. David begnaud is near that house with reaction from the suspects family. David, good morning. Reporter norah, good morning. Eight miles from where you are this morning is center street. Behind me is police tape. It was evacuated, it was last night, and will be, were told, for a good part of today, because the fbi is processing the crime scene, an apartment where the suspects lived. If you look, there is a small lexus car, sedan. The doors are open, the trunk is popped, so is the hood. The police earlier this morning busted out the window. They were worried there might be explosive inside. Were told that none were found. Throughout the day, police will be here at the scene, processing the inside of that apartment. Were told the suspect lived here with his mother, his wife, and their sixyearold baby girl sixmonthold baby girl. Police in california have identified the two suspects as syed rizwan farook, an american citizen born in chicago and employed by the San Bernadino county board of health, and Tashfeen Malik, a 27yearold female, married to farook. Police say farook was at a holiday banquet with coworkers. He left abruptly and returned with his wife. Shortly after, shots were fired. I am in shock that Something Like this would happen. Reporter farooks brotherinlaw, farhan khan, said the couple was married for two years and had a sixmonthold daughter. At a press conference last night with local muslim leaders, khan offered his condolences to the families of the victims and expressed disbelief and shock. I have no idea. I have no idea, why would he do that, why would he do Something Like this, i have absolutely no idea. Reporter late last night police used a battering ram to enter a home in redlands reportedly connected with the suspect, syed farook. Police sent a robot into the home to search for explosive. Syed farook and Tashfeen Malik were killed in the shootout. Both were dressed in tactical clothing, armed with assault rifles, and each had multiple magazines of ammunition attached to their clothing. Police also discovered handguns in the suv. According to the atf, all four guns used in the shooting were purchased legally. This morning, San Bernadino police have not provided us with a motive, but they have said this they are not yet ready to rule out the potential of terrorism. Norah, we can say this, the one thing they know for sure is that the two suspects killed were the only two people they believe were involved in the shooting. Reporter important information, david, thank you very much. This morning, people are remembering the lives of those lost in the deadly shooting. Many gathered for a candlelight vigil last night in San Bernadino to honor the 14 victims. John blackstone is at Loma Linda University medical center, where some of the survivors are being treated. John, good morning. Reporter good morning, norah. Here at the Loma Linda University medical center, this center received five patients from the shooting. Two of them were critically wounded. Now, this hospital is a level one trauma center, and the staff here trains for this kind of mass casualty crisis. I called my kids and said, if something happens to me, theres a shooting here, just be safe. Reporter panic, chaos, and confusion followed the gunfire in San Bernadino. She told me she was shot in her side. She told me not to come. These guys are still at large, you know that, right . Reporter we told her, stay down, i love her, and came down here, because she never responded. She said, steph, ive been shot, i was at a Work Christmas Party and i dont know whats going to happen, and im scared, and i love you. Not knowing, is she okay, is she going to live, where was she shot. Reporter their sister was among the 17 survivors hit by bullets. She said that the shooters came in and the just started unloading rounds on the people that were in the building with her. Were okay now because we found out shes doing fine. She did have one gunshot wound to her back. Reporter hundreds of people were on the facilitys ground when the gunfire began. Most of the people that were wounded, most of the victims were centrally located in one area of the facility. Reporter victims were met at loma linda by a prepared staff, who were troubled by the days attack. We had five patients brought to the hospital. Were all shaken by this, all bothered by it. Were treating people that didnt need to get hurt today. Reporter here at loma linda, while the medical staff was tending to the wounded, Police Responded here to a bomb threat that they called credible. Now, in the end, after a search, no explosive were found. But norah, this facility remains on high alert. Reporter all right, john, thank you so much. We spoke with San Bernadino mayor carrie davis earlier this morning. He praised the citys response to this horrifying attack. As you know, this has been a tragic, shocking event that took place yesterday. It started around 11 00 in the morning. I received notification of it about 11 25. I was at a county Transportation Authority meeting. I immediately left there and went to city hall. Reporter these are social service employees. They work for the department of health. Theyre usually caring for people. Where were they targeted . We certainly dont have the motive at this particular time. We would certainly characterize this as a senseless event, a tragic, Violent Crime committed against innocent people. We certainly had no forethought that this was coming. It was a Christmas Party event. I think its difficult to really understand and understand the magnitude of the impact this has on families over the course of the unfolding time and days. Their lives have changed. Reporter what do you want your community to know . I certainly want them to know that we mourn with those victims who have been tragically impacted by this event. These Violent Crimes need to be effectively dealt with. They need to be prosecuted. Reporter mayor, when you hear that this is the worst shooting since sandy hook and newtown, connecticut, what does that make you think . These events, they shock communities. They cause communities to reprioritize those things that are most important. They draw on their faith, they draw closer to family. And they realize life is precious. We need to do what we can to make sure we make the best choices we can, maintain the standard that doesnt drop to the level of those who committed these crimes. Reporter mayor, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you, norah. Reporter it just so happened that as we learned about this shooting, i was interviewing president obama at the white house. And he is now calling on lawmakers around the country to pass tougher gun laws. We have a pattern now of Mass Shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. And theres some steps we can take, not to eliminate hes one of these Mass Shootings, but to improve the odds that they dont happen as frequently. Common sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks. We have a no fly list where people cant get on planes, but those same people who we dont allow to fly could go into a store right now in the United States and buy a firearm, and theres nothing that we can do to stop them. We should come together on a bipartisan bases at every level of government to, you know, make these rare as opposed to normal. Reporter and were going to have much more from San Bernadino throughout the morning. Just ahead, well hear from a worker who was actually inside that building behind me when the suspects started shooting. He took this video, look at this, from his iphone. Well see more of that ahead. Charlie and gayle, back to you in new york. Thanks, norah. British war planes are joining the americanled Bombing Campaign against isis in syria. Royal air force jets took off from a base in cyprus, striking targets near the border of iraq. That oil field is thought to be a major source of engine for isis. The bombings followed an emotional tenhour debate in britains parliament. They voted by a 2 to 1 margin to back the attacks. Gayle was at the white house to interview the president about a variety of issues including the fight against isis. The interview took place in the white house, in the cabinet room. She asked about his decision to send about 200 special operations troops to carry out raids in iraq and syria. Reporter you have said no boots on the ground. But this is almost tripling the amount of forces youve approved there. Is this going back on your word, does this mean well have greater involvement there . When i said no boots on the ground, i think the American People understood generally were not going to do an iraqstyle invasion of syria with battalions moving across the desert. What ive been very clear about is that were going to systematically squeeze and ultimately destroy isil. And that requires us having a military component to that. And the 65country coalition that weve put together has been striking isil americaslemercile. Weve been able to push back isil from territory theyve taken, both in iraq and syria. And were developing partnerships, although theyre not as strong as we want yet, with local tribes and sunnis who are willing to fight isil. And what ive said is that were going to continually modify and adjust our strategy based on those things that work and those things that may not work. And our special forces are the best in the world. Theyre not going to single handedly destroy isil. But what they can do is give us greater Situational Awareness on the ground, generate intelligence, work with local forces to develop smarter strategies, help direct where air strikes are going to make the most difference. Were going to continue to, you know, push hard. And the good news is, coming out of paris, were seeing countries like germany and Great Britain that had been hesitant about guessing too actively involved to become part of the solution. In our next hour the president talks about the potential isis threat at home and the fears of a parisstyle attack inside the United States. 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Not only is it good for the environment, its good for the businesses bottom line. These are our neighbors. These are the people that we work with. That matters to me. I have three children that are going to grow up here and i want them to be able to enjoy all the things that i was able to enjoy. Highway 4 slower than usual an accident beyond willow pass blocking two lanes of traffic very heavy approaching the scene backed up out of antioch. Stays heavy beyond the accident into concord. And in San Francisco, southbound 101 near cesar chavez an accident blocking the righthand lane has traffic backed up on westbound 80 off the bay bridge. Do keep in mind that toll plaza traffic has been stacked up through the macarthur maze with a 41minute drive time between the carquinez bridge and the maze in oakland. Roberta. Hi, everybody. Good morning. It is live, its our hidef Doppler Radar. And it is picking up some rain showers now entering the north bay. We should see the rain in the santa rosa area easily by 9 00 this morning. Then all this begins to move to the south. This is levis stadium mostly cloudy skies there. 66 days until super bowl 50. We are in the 30s and 40s. 51 in San Francisco. Rain and wind today. Winds to 20, gusts to 45. Captions by caption colorado comments captioncolorado. Com. 14 people are dead, 18 are hurt, in the shooting in San Bernadino, california. The husband and wife team are identified as 28yearold syed farook and 27yearold Tashfeen Malik. Investigators have been at the couples house in nearby redlands all night long, trying to gain more information about a motive here. Norah odonnell is leading our coverage this morning, near the scene of the massacre in San Bernardino. Norah, good morning to you. Reporter hey, good morning to you, gayle. Thats right, some of the most crucial questions here remain unanswered, including the motive of those two suspects. What we do know is that 14 lives ended tragically. A short time ago, i spoke with timmy hilliard. Hes a social workerer at the Inland Regional Center behind me, and he took video of the aftermath of the shooting. It shows s. W. A. T. Team members carrying out bodies and placing them on the ground. I was in building 2 on the third floor of the Regional Center. Reporter in fact you took out your iphone. Yes, i did. Reporter and you had a birds eye view of the entrance and the exit that the shooters went in. Were looking at that video right now. What did you see first . First what i saw was the s. W. A. T. Team coming into the backdoor, about five or six, storming into a and b, looking for an active shooter. The west side of the building, there was Police Standing at the door, going in for an active shooter. As well on the back, there was a gentleman deceased on the bench, i assumed, as well a female, about 10 to 15 feet away, laying in a pool of blood, deceased as well. Reporter you think they were trying to flee and shot as they were trying to to flee . Correct. The female, due to her position, appeared to have been fleeing. The gentleman was having a smoke break and shot either on the exit or entrance of the assa assailan assailants. Reporter did you see any of the shooters . No, unfortunately my office was on the north side, the shooters were on the south side. I got there 15 minutes after the shooting. Thats when the Police Department were pulling body after body out of auditorium a and b. Reporter when did you realize how grave the situation was . It was probably about the sixth body coming out, just seeing the effect of it all. At first i saw the two bodies, okay, its two bodies, it may not be that bad. Then the third body, fourth body, fifth body. By the 12 body, i stopped counting. Reporter you saw 12 bodies . At least. I think i counted up to 13. I was seeing at the ground level, the police acquired the reflecti reflections from me, i decided to stop shooting with my ipad. Reporter when was the training you had for an active shooter . I believe last week. I believe we have another one coming up in february. Reporter so you had just been through an active Shooter Training that had been put in place after newtown and sandy hook . Correct. We have an active shooter where different teams come together, s. W. A. T. And everybody, fbi, homeland security, with the School District that im a part of here in San Bernadino. Reporter what lessons will you take from this . So many. Dont take anything for granted. I mean, i have a two and a halfyearold daughter. Sorry. So i thought about her. And then Everything Else i could. And just realized that, you know, when youre going into work, it may be your last time coming in. And thought about a lot of different things. Reporter you thought about your daughter . Yeah. Reporter im glad youre okay. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Reporter you can imagine just how scary this was, for so many people and their families. This scene is now secure this morning. Hes actually his car is stuck inside. He said he cant go pick up his daughter because his car seat is in the car. Hes probably going to have to wait until next week. Still, this morning for authorities there are a lot of Unanswered Questions about how this all happened here. Charlie and gayle . Thanks, norah. There are many questions, including motive, including whether this was organized, and why that location. Mary otoole is a senior fbi profiler. She joins us from washington. She has 25 Years Experience investigating Mass Shootings, including the columbine massacre. Good morning. And there was no suicide at the end or suicide by cop. And those three things to me are the most remarkable. It does suggest to me after the shooting occurred, these shooters intended to go someplace else, because they could not at the end of the day go home and take their sixmonthold baby from their motherinlaw and call it a day. Something else was going to happen. Does this in any way suggest terrorism . We dont know motive, but theyre not ruling out terrorism. These events say what to you . Thats right, they do. And i think terrorism certainly has to be a very important consideration here as the fact pattern begins to evolve and tighten up. It did occur in a venue where the male shooter had, you know, fellow employees, had colleagues. There are some who say this was very personal. That may be true, but it also may have made it a softer target for him. I dont believe, based on how strategic the plan was, that he had a fight, and then the fight precipitated the attack. That doesnt make any sense at all behaviorally. The fight or disagreement, if in fact that did occur, could have been staged. But the plan itself overall was extremely strategic, wellthoughtout. That would have taken days, weeks, even months to put together. That is exactly what the San Bernadino police chief is saying too, mary ellen, that its highly unlikely that an argument caused this, they were so wellplanned, they were dressed, he has an argument, goes home, comes back with his wife. Coworkers described him as reserved, polite, appeared to be leaving the american dream, married, with a sixmonthold baby. What do you think about that . I hear that all the time. If you come across as quiet and normal, people accept you as being nonthreatening. But you dont know what goes on behind closed doors in someones home. So those are simply trappings of normalcy. Theyre not indicative of violent or threatening behavior in the future. My experience has been that the general public does not know how to read for signs of dangerousness. Clearly in this case if these two individuals wanted to carry out the attack that they did in fact carry out, theyre going to behave in a normal, quiet be able to get along type of fashion with other people because they dont want to have this mission interrupted. So that those trappings of normalcy are not indicative of future violence. Thank you so much. Youre very welcome. We know these deadly shootings have become much more common. In our next hour, how Police Tactics and advice are changing to address the growing threat. Thats ahead on cbs this morning. A Deadly Police shooting in San Francisco caught on video is under investigation today. We want to warn you, though, that this video is disturbing. [ gunshots ] oh, my god San Franciscos police chief says a man armed with a knife moved toward those officers before they opened fire. They had stopped the suspect after a stabbing nearly an hour earlier. 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Crime scene surrounding a threaten and bomb reporter charlie, all of this comes in the wake of a all of this comes in the wake of a series of high profile scandals and incidents that have driven morale at the secret service to an alltime low. Gayle, we contacted the secret service this morning, but, so far, they are not commenting on on these new revelations. Got it, margaret. So many hard working men and women in the secret Service Department but it shows there is work to be done there. Thank you very much. Ahead, norah asked president obama about fears of a parisstyle isis attack here in america. Why he says we are safer than ever. And paul ryan joins us just before his first major speech, as speaker of the house. What he says congress will do ,out the rise of mass announcer this portion of cbs this morning sponsored by toyota. Lets go places toyotathon is back with a season full of holiday treats. Like 0 apr financing on the reliable camry. 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Police are defending their actions saying the man had a knife. Today we should get the latest test results on the health of the dungeness and rock crab population. The season has been on hold due to high levels of a neurotoxin in the crabs. Next on cbs this morning, tragedy in San Bernardino. The 7th mass shooting in the u. S. In just the last five months. Carter evans has an update. But first, traffic and weather when we come back. ,,,, good morning. Im liza battalones with your kcbs traffic. An Apartment Fire in San Franciscos Marina District has shut down lombard street. It is closed in both directions between broadway and divisadero causing major delays just south of the Golden Gate Bridge. It is also affecting muni service which is now rerouting delays on number 28 and bus number 43. Bus line number 43 as we move on to live pictures of the Golden Gate Bridge, it is not backing up traffic not quite yet towards the Golden Gate Bridge but be prepared for those delays as you come off of the Golden Gate Bridge into San Francisco. Heres roberta. Its live. Its our hidef Doppler Radar. It is now picking up some returns in the form of some very light rain showers now moving into the cloverdale area. We have light rain to the south of point arena and rain showers moving. ,,,, good morning to our viewers in the west. It is thursday, december 3, 2015. Welcome back to cbs this morning. Theres more real news ahead, including the San Bernardino massacre. Nora has the latest from the scene and a look at how police prepare for these attacks. But first, heres todays eye opener at 8 00. This was supposed to be a happy occasion, it was a holiday banquet, but it suddenly turned into an active shooter scene. I saw two bodies, third body, fourth body, fifth body, by the third body, i stopped counting. Reporter the gunmen were killed in a shootout with police. We dont know the motive. Were not ruling out terrorism. Terrorism certainly has to be a very important consideration here as the fact pattern begins to evolve. The u. S. Security agency is in crisis according to a report what will be released later today. Are you sure there will be no boots on the ground. Were not going to do ang irq style invasion of iraq or syria. When you hear about these things, what do you say . It causes people to reprioritize when they realize life is precious. Im charlie rose with gayle king andh odonnell. No norah is in san bernardi deearb. 14 people were killed and another 17 injured. Police say the suspects target the Holiday Party at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino. Hours after the rampage, a police chase and a shootout left the suspects dead. Officials say their motive could be a workplace dispute or terrorism. But officials tell us this morning, neither shooter shows up on a u. S. Terror watch list. Norah odonnell is at the scene of the massacre some 60 miles east of los angeles. Norah, good morning, again. Reporter that is an important piece of information as we are learning more about these suspects. Police say that syed farook and his wife malik have been married for two years, they lived with his mother in this home that was the target of a police raid yesterday. And you can see authorities searching that house this morning. The couple left their 6monthold child with farooks mother yesterday, at the time of the shooting, county employees were attending a Holiday Party in a conference room. Farook left early and returned angry. We were told by authorities that they started shooting. Some were triaged outside the building and others were evacuated and authorities tried to keep people calm. And you can hear the fear in this mothers voice when she described hearing from her daughter. She said she was cold and she was shot in her side and that they were pretending to be dead because these guys were kill out will. Reporter it was agony for many loved ones of people who worked in the building, left wondering who was hurt or killed. Carter evans has been following this story since the beginning. Reporter authorities are still searching for a motive for this shooting and this morning the suv is still sitting where it was damaged so badly yesterday. The police chase and shootout happened about four hours after the initial rampage. At least 20 officers were involved. As for 28yearold syed farook and his wife the first reports of gun fire came at 11 00 local time. The San Bernardino said the two assailants came prepared as if they were on a mission. Both had semiautomatic rifles, pistols and masks and clothing that was loaded with with magazine after magazine, they were prepared for a gun fight and cbs news has learned that all four of hose gthose guns we purchased legally. Reporter lets go back now to gayle and charlie in new york. The shooting does not former new york city Police Officer. Look at what they are looking at and tell us, how do you determine motiativmotive . What are the clues that indicate how this happened and why . People leave trails, text trails and emails. Not very often, but often. And the wife, having come into the countyry from saudi arabia, and it will be very painstaking and its got to be evidence based. What we want to know is that things we know may turn out to be erroneous, so we have to stay to the facts. They were able to use these weapons in a scary way and they pmax mazed the loss of life. They didnt say anything, they just shot and slaughtered these poor folks. What stands out about 4 particular shooting, the way it was carried out and by whom . Youve got a mass shooting and youve got a woman involved. How unusual is it to have a woman . A small member of shootings are done by women. So its very unusual. Are there usually men associated with the attacksome. We dont want to use this may not be a criminal justice matter u this may be something beyond criminal justice, but its often a man that leads into the downfall, the woman, the bad actor tends to be to the man more than the woman. What about the fact that they took the daughter to the mother . Well see how this began, and we have to be prepared to take it wherever it takes us. We shouldnt use this to light up the country, and well wait and see. But this man may be wrapping himself into some radicalization to get himself some attention. Wouldnt there be some obvious signs in terms of people at work and elsewhere. Maybe unraveling . G . G . Ese people have been able to be stable on the surface this is a cbs news special report. Im charlie rose with gail king in new york. Norah odonnell is in San Bernardino, california. President obama spoke a few minutes ago in the oval office. He reacted to the massacre of 14 people at a social services center. The suspect is, a husband an wife, were killed in police shootout. Reporter this was a haistil scheduled meeting in the oval office. The president really wanted to speak to reporters following a session with his National Security Team Including the fbi director and the attorney general. We know it is still unclear to the white house what the motive was here or whether this was a terrorist attack. What we do know from the atf is that all four of those guns were legally purchased, including semiautomatic weapons that were used to kill 14 people, injure many, many more. That detail is going to be something that you hear the white house focus in on. Remember, this is the 18th time since the president came to office that he has made Public Comments about a mass shooting in the United States. He has gotten increasingly passionate and emotional in his calls for some form of regulation to try to tighten what could be gun ownership issues, other loopholes that he sees that have allowed for these kind of situations to occur. And he called for some bipartisan action just a moment ago. Lets listen to the president. Yesterday a tragedy occurred in San Bernardino, and as i said in the immediate aftermath, our first order of business is to send our thoughts and prayers to the families of those who have been killed and to pray for a speedy recovery for those who were injured during this terrible attack. I had a chance to speak with mayor davis of San Bernardino, and i thanked Law Enforcement in that city for their timely and professional response. I indicated to mayor davis that the entire country is thinking about that community and thanked him and his office for the way that theyve been able to manage extraordinarily difficult situation with calm and clarity, and very much appreciated the coordination thats been taking place between local Law Enforcement and the fbi investigators. At this stage we do not yet know why this terrible event occurred. We do know that the two individuals who were killed were equipped with weapons and appeared to have access to additional weaponry at their homes, but we dont know why they did it. We dont know at this point the extent of their plans. We do not know their motivations, and i just received a briefing from fbi director comey as well as attorney general lynch indicating the course of their investigation. At this point this is now an fbi investigation. Thats been done in cooperation and consultation with local Law Enforcement. It is possible that this was terrorist related, but we dont know. Its also possible that this was workplace related, and until the fbi has been able to conduct what are going to be a large number of interviews, until we understand the nature of the workplace relationship between the individual and his superiors because he worked with the organization where this terrible shooting took place, until all of the social media and electronic information has been exploited, were just not going to be able to answer those questions, but what i can assure the American People is were going to get to the bottom of this and that we are going to be vigilant, as we always are, in getting the facts before we issue any decisive judgments in terms of how this occurred. More broadly, as i said yesterday, we see the prevalence of these kinds of Mass Shootings in this country, and i think so Many Americans sometimes feel as if theres nothing we can do about it. We are fortunate to have an extraordinary combination of Law Enforcement and intelligence and military that work every single day to keep us safe, but we cant just leave it to our professionals to deal with the problem of these kinds of horrible killings. We all have a part to play, and i do think that as the investigation moves forward, its going to be important for all of us, including our legislatures, to see what we can do to make sure that when individuals decide that they want to do somebody harm, were making it a little harder for them to do it because right now its just too easy, and, you know, were going to have to i think search ourselves as a society to make sure that we can take basic steps that would make it harder, not impossible, but harder for individuals to get access to weapons. So there will be i think a press conference later today led by the attorney general, director comey will continue to brief not only the press but also members of congress about the course of the investigation. Our expectation is that this may take some time before were able to sort it all through. There may be mixed motives involved in this, which makes the investigation more complicated, but rest assured that we will get to the bottom of this and in the meantime once again i want to offer our deepest condolences to those who have been affected by this terrible tragedy and for those who have been injured. We hope that they get well quickly and that theyre able to be back together with their families. Thank you very much, everybody. Im charlie rose with gail king in new york and Norah Odonnell in San Bernardino. The president expressing grief for the victims in San Bernardino, praising the police there, and saying we do not know whether this was terror related or work related or something else, but that the fbi is now leading the investigation. Gayle . Norah odonnell, were going to go back to you in San Bernardino. It was interesting for the president to say we need to figure out a way to make it harder for people who want to do harm because right now its too easy for people what want to do so. Reporter number one, the president noting that the fbi is now leading this investigation, that he has been briefed by his fbi director as well as his attorney general. I think thats significant. Two, the president saying that it is a possible terrorist related, it is possibly workplace related and at the end he said it may be a mixed nature because they have to understand what his relationship was with his superiors since it was people he had worked with in the past. He said very clearly we are going to get to the bottom of this. We are going to be vigilant. But then as you noted, gayle, he also said, look, lets not feel powerless in this situation. You know, that americans are starting to feel they can do nothing about this. We cant just leave it to the professionals. We all have a part to play, and thats when the president talked about the Public Policy response that hes been hoping for, which is that not only in state legislatures but a federal response about making it harder for individuals who want to cause harm to get their hands on guns. We know from our reporting and speaking with the atf that all of these guns used were believed to have been purchased legally. We dont know who purchased them, thats not yet been made clear, but theyve been purchased legally so thats going to be more of the investigation as we learn more about who these two suspects are, mr. Farook and his wife, 28 and 27 years old. He is described as very religious. Why he decided to do this even though his brother said it seems unfathomable. So all that and more with the fbi leading this investigation. Charlie and gayle. The president s conversation took place after he had met with the fbi director and also the attorney general. Our coverage continues throughout the day on this cbs station and on our 24hour Digital Network cbsn. There will be a full report on the cbs evening news with scott pelley. Many of you will return now to cbs this morning. This has been a cbs news special report. For Norah Odonnell, im, ok, were here. Heres dad. Mom. The twins. Aunt alice. You didnt tell me aunt alice was coming. Of course. Dont forget grandpa. Can the test drive be over now . Maybe just head back to the dealership . Dont you want to meet my family . Yep, totally. Its practically yours, but we still need your signature. The volkswagen sign then drive event. Zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first months payment on a new jetta people were killed in that high school, police have been reevaluating active shooter procedures. They tell us for the rest of us, the best things we can do is get out, hide, or sometimes take action. This as active Shooter Drills are becoming a lot more common. Inland Regional Center nurse who took this video on wednesday thought they were part of a drill. She told the l. A. Times they practice active shooter situations every month or so. The frequency of active shooter incidents in the u. S. Is rising. Police are adjusting their tactics. First responding patrol officers are expected to go in to try to find that threat and stop the killing. Reporter ron hosco is a former assistant director of the fbi. They are not waiting for a s. W. A. T. Team that may be 15 minutes or an hour behind. Reporter less than two weeks ago, the new york city Police Department held a threehour active Shooter Drill in the citys subway system. These exercises are necessary, particularly in light of what is going on in the world at this point in time. Everybody stay calm. Its probably just a drill. Angeles county sheriffs deputy posted a video online on how to deal with a shooting of this kind p. M. Lock or barricade the doors. Always spread out. Dont huddle together. That creates one easy target. Reporter according to the department of homeland security, active shooter incidents typically last between ten and 15 minutes. Washington, d. C. Police chief kathy lanier spoke with Anderson Cooper during a 60 minutes last month. I say if you can get out, that is your best and first option. If youre in a position to take the gunman down and out, its the best option for saving lives before police can get there and that is kind of counterintuitive to what cops tell people. We tell people dont take action, call 911, dont intervene in the robbery, you know . We have never told me take action. This is a different scenario. Youre telling them that now, though . We are. Reporter police also say be aware of your surroundings and come up with at least two exit plans to get out of the building if you need to get out fast. Gayle . We have a new set of rules. Charlie, now that we have the phrase active shooter is now part of our vocabulary. A different day. Thank you very much, kris van cleave. A morning of grieving we want to show you how a super bowl champ brougk. I never really gave much thought to the acidity in any foods. Never thought about the coffee i was drinking having acids. It never dawned on me that it could hurt your teeth. He told me to use pronamel. Its going to help protect the enamel in your teeth. It allows me to continue to drink my coffee, and it was a real easy switch to make. 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Lombard street in San Francisco the crookedest streeted closed this morning after a twoalarm fire. One man is hospitalized with smoke inhalation. Four others are displaced. Today well get the latest test results on the health of dungeness and rock crab populations. The season has been on hold since midnovember due to high levels of neurotoxin in the crabs. A live interview this morning on cbs this morning with paul ryan the speaker of the house who discusses his new role on capitol hill. Stay with us. Traffic and weather in just a moment. This is called non24. Learn more by calling 8448242424. Or visit your24info. Com. re a bow and arrow a broken guitar while the rainwater washes away who you are we go over the mountains and under the stars we go over the mountains and under the stars [ ] good morning. Im liza battalones with your kcbs traffic. Traffic delays through the Marina District in San Francisco following this mornings Apartment Fire. Lombard street remains shut down both ways between broderick and divisadero. This is causing major backups in San Francisco just beyond the picture, traffic backed up on doyle drive because of the closure. It is causing delays as well onto Park Presidio. You can see that right here from these live caltrans pictures. We are going to move on to the rest of the commute. If you plan on make the bay bridge drive, thats also stacked up through the macarthur maze with the metering lights on. Once on the bridge, traffic continues sluggish in pockets all the way across the span. Its also going to be a slow morning through the san mateo bridge. No accidents just a lot of traffic in that westbound direction. Roberta. Considering we started tracking this cold front three days ago, the timing has been consistent. And, in fact, our live hidef Doppler Radar is now picking up some radar returns in the form of light to moderate rain spreading from cloverdale into the santa rosa area. Also, if we zoom on in you see these pockets of moderate rain towards healdsburg and traversing towards monte rio and bodega bay and light rain showeraround inverness and now heading into Forest Knolls. This cold front will sag from the north to the front and everybody gets wet. We could see up to an inch of rain in the wettest spots of the north bay by about this time tomorrow. Just scattered hitandmiss showers for the evening commute. We are in the 40s and 50s going up to the low 60s today. Dry over the weekend. How do we stop this. We want to hear from out that. But why dont you, after you make your speech today, called the president and say im going to come down pennsylvania avenue and lets you and i start off and do something about this right now . Im speaker of the house, youre president , youre in your Fourth Quarter and im in the beginning of my job as speaker. First, charlie, this is just a horrible event. My stomach turns like any american when they see this kind of violence and you cant help but watch this on tv and yell at the tv and say, what can we do to prevent this from happening . Obviously, we are thinking of those things. This particular shooting in San Bernardino, theres you some too much unknowns before we speculate about the origin of this one. But what we have seen in a common theme among many of these Mass Shootings is the theme of Mental Illness. And we need to fix our Mental Illness laws, our policies. They are outdated. And that is something that we are working on right now. We are moving a bill through the process here, the murphy legislation, because we think that is one of the more consistent and common themes is people with Mental Illness are getting guns and conducting these Mass Shootings. Now, without knowing the facts in San Bernardino, we also know that there are homegrown jihadists and we also know there are isis inspirational events and we need to figure out how to handle that as well. To there are multiple things that need to be addressed and we are working on those that need to be addressed, including whether somebody is coming here or inspiring someone to do these things, because of their audiological or religious events or the common theme we know i suspect a lot of people would agree with you and most would agree on that. Here is what the president said and why i suggested there might be a conversation between you and the president. He said we have a nofly list where people cant get on planes, but these seem people, whom we do not allow to fly, could get into a store right now in the United States and buy a firearm. And there is nothing we can do to stop them. Well, on this particular issue, we do have a constitution. Citizens have a Due Process Rights and anyone can just be arbitrarily placed on the nofly list. In fact, thats happened quite a bit. People have been placed on the nofly list mistakenly and innocently. So we need to respect due process. When we rush to act tho on these things lets make sure we act accordingly and according to Citizens Rights and to the constitution. Oh, lets make sure what we do actually solves these problems. So that is why i think when you take a pause and see what is happening and why we are working on Mental Health already. With respect to the nofly list, its important to remember people have Due Process Rights in this country and we cant have some Government Official put them arbitrarily on a list. If someone is suspected of terrorism in this country and someone in this country we think is planning a terrorist attack, we should arrest them. this is something that should be dealt with by Law Enforcement in a more pronounced position than maybe, you know, banning due process lights on a nofly list. If we think somebody is committing terrorism we should pick them up. I hear, you mr. Speaker. Many stopped me and said we know how this story is going to go. We will hear the stories of the heroes who survived and the stories about the victims and the stories about the shooters. And nothing gets done, right. Ultimately, thats right. Nothing changes. Surely there can be something that can stop people from getting an ak47. In this particular case in San Bernardino, its being reported that two of the weapons recovered were bought legally in this country. What does it take to move the needle in congress is the frustration we have. What we are trying to do is find out the facts and make sure what our response is actually addresses the problems without without infringing upon the rights of law abiding citizens. That is the but it keeps happening. We have citizens who have rights to be protected. Again, gayle, one of the common themes here, this is is why we are really serious about our Mental Health legislation because a lot of these people are getting guns who are mentally unstable who should not be getting guns and this is a gap in our laws that we feel needs to be filled. Look. If youre not outraged when you turn on the tv and see these shootings there is something wrong with you. We want to get it right, gayle. We want to make sure we dont violate a persons rights if they are a law abiding citizen. Can i just say this to you . A mass shooting is described as four or more victims. According to shooting tracker. Com just the fact we have a shooting tracker. Com speaks volumes. Since january 354 Mass Shootings in this country. You must be frustrated as well. I am, gayle. Thats why again, i dont want to keep saying the same thing over and over. Yeah, but. But one of the things we have noticed there are Mental Health issues here and we havent fixed these laws in years and they are discombobulated and dont make sense. People who are getting guns and diagnosed with Mental Illnesses are slipping through the cracks and slipping through our system and we need to patch that and then when we talk about making sure that that criminals, people that should not get guns dont get guns we need to keep enforcing the laws and there are no gaps in that enforce want. Mr. Speaker, what is required to make sure people will not be saying a month from now we are facing the same situation . Well, we are receiving some resistance from our Mental Health bill right now as we speak. You talk to the president about the Mental Health bill and the president will talk to you about his own concerns about who is allowed to get what kind of guns. Right. By the way, that is part of the Mental Health bill. That is part of the discussion surrounding the Mental Health bill which is who gets guns and who should get guns. We have to make sure in our rush to do something, we dont violate a persons individual rights in this country. But Due Process Rights executive division of the government are equally concerned about violating peoples rights . Well, some proposals here do violate peoples rights. The nofly list is a perfect example. We are going to we are going to violate a persons rights without giving them any due process . You have to think these things through before we have kneejerk reactions is my point. What about the people who arent mentally ill and committing these crimes . Are they people who got guns illegally or barred from the law of getting a gun and got it any way . Therefore we have a gap enforcing our laws. Is it a law allibidining citize all of a sudden snapped or Something Like that . Youre ner going to have in a free society the ability to prevent anything, to prevent everything you want to prevent. The president said that. A free society, in a free society youre going to have problems. The question is in a free society, while protecting our individual rights, are there gaps in laws, are there gaps in enforcement of laws that need to be filled . That is what we are looking at right now. Youre going to speak to the congress this afternoon around around 12 30 or 1 00, i assume. Where do you put this as a priority for you and the congress . So here is my concern about everything. I dont think the country is headed in the right direction, charlie and gayle. I really believe we are on the wrong track. I really believe we are we are at risk of severing this legacy of leaving the next generation better off in this country. We would be the first generation to do that and we are on track of doing that. I feel that we here in congress, if we dont like the direction the country is headed on any number of issues, we cant be an Opposition Party yelling no. We have to be a Proposition Party and we have to show people what our ideas are so we need to be big, we need to be bold, we need to be specific, and in 2016 we have an obligation to give the people of this country a choice so they can choose is what direction the country goes. That is what im going to lay out today, which is we are an Opposition Party, yes, but here is how we become a Proposition Party and, more importantly, here is how we give the choice to the people of this country so that they get to decide the direction the nation is going and a whole range of issues, poverty, economic roles, upward mobility, you have Affordable Health care. We have to say to the country, here is a better way forward and if you agree with us and you choose us to lead, then we will do this. We need a mandate and we need to offer people a choice and that is the kind of vision im going to lay out this afternoon. When will you talk to the president . I talk to the president fairly regularly, actually. I dont know. I call him sometimes and he calls me sometimes so i dont have something marked on my calendar. Thank you, speaker ryan. We talk fairly often. Thank you very much, speaker ryan for your time today. We do appreciate , we continue our High School Honor roll series this morning, celebrating super bowl 50. Former offensive lineman Daryn Colledge helped Aaron Rodgers lead the packers to a title in 2011 and bringing home the Vince Lombardi trophy. Colled colledge recently carried a golden football to his hometown. James brown, host of nfl today on cbs takes us to north Pole High School in alaska. Im glad to be home. Its just been so long since ive been here, with football, 15 years since we have been out hunting and flying and now to get out and see the world again. As i said when i was growing up here, i said if you want to see alaska get in the air a bit and you can find it. When you live in a state as vast as this, we travel by river and we travel by plane. Our idea of space is different than any anybody in the lower 48. The size of connecticut is a different situation here in other towns. We get in a plane and hop 15 minutes and we could be in the mountains and we can see anything. A moose right there . Oh, yeah. There he is. Plenty of time to go hunting i grew up living in the wilderness and i hunt and i fish. Reporter he may have grow up a typically alaska but his hometown of north powell is not exactly average. We in north pole embrace the christmas spirit. We are the home of santa claus. We have the candy cane light poles. We love it. Its a yearround thing for us. Reporter so how did a kid from here get to here . The Green Bay Packers are world champions of football i didnt probably officially Start Playing football until my senior year in high school. I was dating a girl who was a cheerleader and said, ill play football, why not . Reporter that led to boise state discovering him on another reel and his unlikely football career began. Intercepted by Daryn Colledge i was gifted. I got an opportunity and seized that opportunity. I think ive been doing that the last ninees of my football career too. This is our moment we work too hard to be stopped bringing a golden football back is awesome to a community that built and start its life around gold is probably more symbolic for us than it is a lot of other towns. Most people when you tell them youre from alaska they dont believe you. Alaska, this vast place they still think is connected to russia and might be down by hawaii if you look on a map. Reporter there was no confusion where bwho he is and where he came from when he returned to his high school. Its like to bring out north pole alumni and super bowl champion mr. Daryn colledge. These footballs will be reminded of the 50th anniversary but its a connection back to you guys. It seems its something i did but i couldnt do it without the teachers and coaches standing by me and the students i went to school with in this community. This football is for you. If i made one more step easier for these kids to leave our here and a chance to get a College Education and play football on a bigger stage, then ive done as much as i can and that is most important to me. Football is great but the chance for these kids to get out of alaska and come back here and make alaska better, that is most important. 123 yea everybody can give money but sometimes its nice to put something in the trophy case that everybody can walk by and say, all right, that kid came from here and he did something. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, good morning. Im frank mallicoat. It is 8 55. Here are the headlines this morning. Disturbing video shows a deadly confrontation between a man and five San Francisco Police Officers yesterday. Police are defending their actions saying the man had an knife. The mayor ed lee will announce plans to create a Department Head dedicated to the homeless. And a park ranger will introduce president obama at the National Christmas Tree Lighting ceremony tonight. 93yearold betty soskin works at rosie the riveter museum. All you need is your regional card and she will take you on a tour. Looking towards the transamerica building this morning mostly cloudy skies, but check this out. Its our hidef doppler picking up radar returns in the north bay anywhere from cloverdale to santa rosa. We are seeing moderate rain towards healdsburg. You can see that this area of low pressure is going to go from the north to the south. Its already impacting now Forest Knolls and will march towards the Golden Gate Bridge. We have temperatures right now into the 40s and 50s. Winds are slight but will increase out of the south to 20 gusts to 45 especially at the coast. Temperatures in the 50s and 60s. Well see up to an inch of rain today in the highest locations. Otherwise, dry skies with the passage of the cold front and on raider sunday becoming mostly cloudy. 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