about joe biden's comments about romney policies putting people supposedly back in chains. >> bozo the vp is out there engaging in the most shameless kind of race clownery. the killer west nile virus zeroing in on texas. the dallas area has been plagued with more than 200 cases and at least 10 fatalities. they are gearing up to begin aerial spraying for the first time in decades. >> we have people dying, ok? we have to have a sense of urgency to get this done now. out of afghanistan, a nato helicopter crashed killing at least even people. seven of them are u.s. service members. >> a single ticket in michigan matched all of the numbers in last night's powerball. $337 million. >> in china, a rescue of a little boy in a peculiar predicament. some fishermen shot this video of a shark lurks in cape cod bay. >> all that -- >> a perfect game by the king, felix hernandez! >> it's for you. >> and all that matters. this president cannot run on his record. and i think johnson sununu summed it up. >> i like that. >> i was watching cavuto yesterday. somebody forced me. >> the president revealed that his own brew beer is being made >> the president drinks it when he's campaigning, and even more of it when joe biden goes out campaigning. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." charlie rose is off. there's no sign that the presidential race is ready to quiet down after mitt romney told us that the obama campaign is trying to create jealousy and anger, and president obama is responding this morning. >> jan crawford is following the debate in washington. jan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, gayle and anthony. the selection of paul ryan, who is speaking any minute now in ohio, was supposed to focus the race more on substance, remember? we talked about that. but in the last week what eave g we've gotten is just the opposite. it's joe biden who's taking it to a whole new level. >> romney said in the first 100 days he's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. unchain wall street. he's going to put you all back in chains. >> reporter: those remarks had the vice president on wednesday back on the defensive. >> i know i am sometimes criticizing for saying exactly what i mean. and it's not going to change. >> reporter: but it was no laughing matter to governor romney. appearing on "cbs this morning," he said biden's remarks were characteristic of the recent tone of the obama campaign. >> the president's campaign is all about division and attack and hatred. my campaign is about getting america back to work and creating greater unity in this country. >> reporter: later in the day, president obama and the first lady spoke to "entertainment tonight's" nancy odell. >> romney just accused you of running a campaign that's hate and anger. >> nancy, you have been on the campaign trail with me for a day and a half. and this is pretty typical of what we do. we're going around the country talking about how to put people back to work, how do we improve our schools. governor romney, i think, has had very sharp critiques of me and my policies. and that's how it should be. that's the nature of the democracy. >> reporter: but the firestorm over biden wouldn't go away. former congressman archer davis, who was an obama campaign & co-chair in 2008 and now supports romney, said it was no gaff but deliberate. >> i know what joe biden was doing yesterday. and every black person in that room knew who the y'all was. they knew what the chains were about. they knew what the metaphor was. >> reporter: biden's misstep played right into romney's new campaign message. >> yes, we can. >> reporter: that the barack obama from four years ago advocating hope and change has become the president of anger and division. >> we're now in attack and blame, smear and fear. the president doesn't have a record to run on. it's a terrible record. it's failed leadership, broken promises. so he can't run on that. he will have to divide, distract, distribuort, to try a win this election. >> reporter: many say that biden should go, including john mccain and douglas wilder, a former virginia governor, a democrat, who chastised biden for joking about slavery. both said that hillary clinton would have been a better choice, but both said that they didn't >> jan crawford, thank you.pen.- with us now is former vermont governor howard dean. he ran for president in 2004 and later was the democratic party's national chairman. good morning, governor. >> good morning. how are you? >> all right. governor, even former virginia governor doug wilder, the first african-american governor in this country, said yesterday that joe biden's remarks were divisive. we've got 82 days to go until the election here. is the restraint already gone from this presidential race? and should president obama be doing more about it? >> look, i don't -- the republicans are going to do these things. as the democrats do it too. when somebody says something that is modestly controversial, the other people feign great indignation and huff and puff, and then it goes away. this is actually not good for romney, in my view, because romney has got to start talking about the economy. he's picked a controversial vice presidential nominee who wanted to turn medicare into a voucher program. that didn't work so well for him. then he spent a lot of time defending the fact that he won't show his tax returns. he's got to talk about the economy. so i actually think that while the republicans got all in line and said how outrageous it was that biden said this or that, they have got to really start focusing on economy. and they haven't done that yet. and they have no chance in this election until they do. so this is an inside huff and puff, it will be gone in a week and they'll be on to the next thing. but it would be nice if they started talking about the issues. >> i hear you, governor, say it's huff and puff. i have heard some people describe it as tit for tat. do you recall it being this nasty when you were running? >> no. this is a very nasty campaign. and the reason is that you have a president who's weakened by having a bad economy. on the other hand, you have a nominee who's out of step with the american people on the republican side. the tax return stuff and the cayman island bank accounts is really serious. i think romney is probably a pretty good guy. the problem is, if you don't play by the same rules the rest of america does, you can't expect to be president. that's his big problem. not giving out the tax returns is a huge mistake. then he picks a very nice guy, but a very controversial guy, whose views are pretty extreme on things like medicare and social security, and that's a problem for him too. so it's going to be a really nasty, negative campaign. then of course you've got citizens united, the supreme court's contribution to american democracy. and yes, i'm being very sarcastic. so hundreds of millions of dollars will go behind these ads, and it's going to be a negative campaign and there's not much we can do about it. i think both sides will have to do a better job focusing on the issues. >> governor romney is saying he's running on his budget, not paul ryan's budget. but paul ryan's budget has become very much at the center of the debate here. is it fair to tie romney to the ryan budget plan? >> sure. during the primary, romney said he would support ryan's budget and he would sign it if it got to his desk. so this is kind of revisionist history. a couple of days ago romney said he wasn't for deregulating wall street. he said he was for six months. this is all just nonsense. people trying to say they didn't say what they said during the primary season. and the american people will sort all of this out. eventually the american people get it right, and in this case re-elect the right person, if i may be very partisan. >> paul ryan says that he welcomes the debate on medicare. that he's ready for that. do you give him at least any kind of credit for taking on what has been a tough issue for both sides? >> i do give him some credit for that. unfortunately, his solution was totally unnecessary. you don't have to destroy medicare. what they did with medicare essentially is by turning it into a voucher system is transfer the risk of overspending from the federal government, where it's doing it some harm, to individual seniors who can't afford it. the average price tag for medicare for an individual senior is going to go up $6,000 in the next few years under paul ryan's plan for medicare. the privatizing medicare. there's not a good idea. i give him credit for taking it on, but no credit for the radical solution that i don't think that the american people are going to buy. >> houfward dean, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me on. this morning you can read about the man in the bubble as some are calling mitt romney. will americans really get to know him before election day? seven americans were killed this morning in afghanistan when a chopper went down in kandahar province in southern afghanistan. four afghans onboard were also killed. a taliban leader says that rebels shot down the copter, but nato says it's still investigating the cause of the crash. a western spokesman would not say anything about the mission it was on at the time. wikileaks founder julian assange has just received political asylum from ecuador. he has been hiding in the country's embassy in london trying to avoid being sent to sweden to face sexual assault allegations. ecuadorians say that assange faced an unfair trial in the united states. great britain has threatened to raid the embassy to get him. dozens of wildfires are burning out of control in the west. hundreds of people of fleeing two small towns near boise, idaho, as a large fire threatens more than 400 homes. meanwhile, more evacuations were ordered last night around the taylor bridge fire in central washington. that fire has burned about 70 homes. it is one of the worst fire seasons on record with nearly 43,000 wildfires reported this year. there is glowing concern this morning over an outbreak of the west nile virus in texas. the city of dallas has declared a state of emergency. the worst outbreak in years is blamed for at least 10 deaths and 200 illnesses. as anna werner reports, the city has turned to aerial spraying to stop the spread of the virus. >> reporter: this is a sight dallas tex dallas, texas, hasn't seen since 1966. the aerial assault against the mosquitoes could begin as early as today. it's a controversial move that the mayor says carries more rewards than risks. >> i want to take the politics out of it, and i want to say this is my responsibility. i will take the heat for it. >> reporter: jordan conner is one of hundreds of west nile victims in the dallas area. the rare strand of the virus affects her brain, and at any moment she could lose consciousness or control of her limbs. >> when i woke her up for the doctor to being narc leaptic. >> reporter: despite official assurances the aerial poisons are safe for humans, some worry about the effect on at-risk patients. >> we're going under the assumption that this isn't going to be harmful for the mother or for her unborn child. >> reporter: texas officials say statewide there have been almost 400 west nile virus infections, and 16 deaths. for "cbs this morning," i'm anna werner. and we're joined now by professor mike ralph, who is with the university of maryland college of agriculture. good morning, professor. >> good morning, anthony and gayle. how are you guys doing today? >> we're doing ok. professor, how alarming is this surge in infections? and what exactly is happening now? >> well, we're way ahead of schedule with the west nile virus. and this is really quite disturbing. several areas around the country, texas, the gulf states, in the center part of the country as far west as california, we're starting to see an increased incidence of this virus, and it's really quite disturbing. >> why is it happening in texas and the states that you mentioned as opposed to other places in the country? >> well, what happens to get west nile off the ground you have to have three things in place. you have to have birds that are carrying the virus. you have to have good populations of mosquitoes. and with the recent rain fall and the elevated temperatures throughout most of the country, we now have high temperatures, this means mosquitoes can basically complete twice the number of life cycles as in cooler temperatures. and you've got a susceptible population. in other words, you have people that are susceptible to the disease. and people over the age of 50 are at greatest risk for this one. >> professor, how effective are these insecticide sprayings ultimately? >> well, they are really quite effective. and texas is not the only state considering this. they have already done aerial sprays in places like new york and also in massachusetts. i think in massachusetts, with the mosquito sprays, they were able to reduce their populations by about 60%. and this is a really big deal, if you can bring down that transmission rate, in other words, kill bad mosquito population, you can greatly reduce the chances of transmitting this virus to humans. >> a lot of people are afraid, though, about the insecticides. >> sure. >> should they be? >> well, you know, this is a matter of concern. i know the elected officials down in texas labored over this one quite a great deal. but it's a risk benefit analysis here, gayle, basically in this case, i think the benefit of these sprays far, far outweighs the risks. we've got people dying in texas. we've got 15 people in the state now. we have more than 700 cases nationwide. the risks of being harmed by these pesticides are not at all unreasonable. the materials they are using are the same pesticides you would use to spray the vegetables in the garden or some of the pests that invade your home. so these are relatively safe materials. >> professor mike ralph, thanks. >> my pleasure. what a difference a couple of months can make. gas prices are surging across the country after falling dramatically in june. and americans are now spending about $1.5 billion a day to fill up their vehicles. rebecca jarvis is here to show us what's behind the massive increase. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. this is a dramatic change from just a few months ago when analysts were saying we could see $3 a gallon gas by the fall. well, now, gasoline is on track for its most expensive year ever, averaging 10 cents high are a gallon than last. so what changed things? here is the breakdown. since july 2, prices are up 38 cents. now the bulk of the run-up has occurred in the first days of august. 25 cents of that increase is tied to crude oil prices. they have jumped about $15 this summer. but the big surprise, about three cents is tied to drought in the midwest. and since ethanol is used in making gasoline, the drought has driven up corn and ethanol prices are higher. that drives up gasoline as well. the remaining 10 cents has to do with increased production costs. it takes a refinery to turn oil into gasoline, and there have been a slew of refinery problems. most famously the blaze in richmond last week. well, these problems are all spilling over into national prices. and now residents in hawaii, california, illinois, michigan, and connecticut are paying above or near $4 a gallon. there are some places in the country, however, that are much better off when it comes to gas. can you guess which states get the biggest break on prices? arizona and south carolina. each paying about $3.41 a gallon on average, gayle. >> thanks, rebecca. more than 100 fedex workers got sick this morning after they were exposed to concentrated chili pepper. police say that a forklift driver in memphis punctured a barrel containing the hot spice, which is used to make pepper spray. the workers complained of chest pains and breathing problems. all but one were treated on the scene. time to show you some headlines from around the globe. the philadelphia inquirer says a pennsylvania judge upheld the state's new voter identification law. the law requires voters to show a valid photo i.d. opponents claim the law is a republican scheme to keep democrats from voting. they plan to appeal. in london, "the telegraph" is reporting that britain's prince philip is hospitalized with a bladder infection this morning. queen elizabeth's husband is 91 years old. you may recall that the prinche was hospitalized during the queen's jubilee two months ago with a similar infection. "the los angeles times" says a test flight of the hypersonic x-51 a has failed. the unmanned experimental aircraft is designed to travel up to 3,600 miles an hour. about 15 seconds into its test flight off southern california, it couldn't maintain control, and dived into the pacific ocean. >> according to the "boston globe," the federal aviation administration says that wind turbines off cape cod will not pose a hazard to the planes. it's the last federal hurdle for a controversial project to build the nation's first offshore wind farm. and the seattle times says that mariners pitcher felix hernandez was perfect wednesday. he pitched the third perfect game in the majors this season. the most ever in one year. hernandez struck out 12 batters and allowed no base runners, >> this national weather report sponsored by walmart. save money. live better. the little guy versus big insurance. we'll take you inside a growing customer campaign against one insurance giant. we'll show you what has so many so angry. and one lucky person in michigan holds a $337 million powerball ticket. for the people who drew those winning numbers, it was just another night at work. >> this is the first shot and for many people it's live. this is when you get to see approximate your $2 just paid off really big. >> we'll show you how the powerball people do it on "cbs this morning." >> this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by purina. your pet. our passion. parents this year i'm going to teach your kids that magic does exist. it's called science! here's what they'll need. ♪ pencils, folders, notebooks. ♪ ♪ backpacks, denims, graphic tees. ♪ ♪ markers, calculators. whoa! ♪ ♪ converse one start tennies ♪ well, pencils, hair gel, binders. ♪ ♪ pencils, hair gel, binders. announcer: school takes a lot, target has it all. are a sizzling deal, starting at 6 bucks. try our new lunch-size chicken fajitas, sauteed onions and peppers topped with grilled chicken, served with soup or salad. chili's lunch break combos, starting at 6 bucks. 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welcome back to "cbs this morning." i know we shouldn't laugh about it. >> did you ever do anything like that? >> no. because only boys do that. it's a sweeping generalization. >> that's slander. hold on a second. >> i don't know little girls that would do that, an thoi. i just don't. an online firestorm is raging against progressive insurance company. many customers on twitter and facebook are promising to cancel their policies much the controversy erupted this week after a blogger accused progressive of defending a driver who killed one of its own policyholders. elaine quijano is here with the story. >> good morning, anthony. the blog that sparked all that anger was posted by the brother of caitlin fisher who was killed in a baltimore car crash in 2010. matt fisher was appalled to see a lawyer for progressive stand up in court and try to convince a jury that his sister was to blame. >> this was all that was left of caitlin fisher's honda insight after the accident. a witness at the scene said the driver of the black suv sped past him, ran a red light and crashed into fisher's car killing her almost instantly. she was 24 years old. >> i was awoken by a call from my grandmother. she eventually said call your parents and hung up. i called my dad and he told me my sister had died. >> the driver of the suv was understood for $25,000 but fisher also had a $100,000 policy with progressive in case she was injured or killed by an underinsured negligent driver. progressive refused to pay because in ms. fisher's case, there were conflicting eyewitness accounts as to who was at fault. >> if you're an insurance company and your obligation to a lot of your people, your stakeholders there. you only pay out claims when you should have. >> fisher's family sued the other driver in court to establish his negligence. but when the trial started, the fishers were stunned when a lawyer for progressive intervened in the case and asked for the company to be included as a defendant. >> the guy who, for better or worse, killed my sister had more than one attorney, he had two attorneys and one of them identified himself at the beginning of the case as an employee of progressive. >> the company disputes that and notes that the other driver was represented by an attorney for his insurer, nationwide. the trial lasted only three days. the jury sided with fisher's family and a awarded $760,000 in damages. but the experience left them feeling betrayed. if you are insured by progressive and they owed you money, they will defend your killer in court in order to not pay you your policy. he blogged. his post went viral, shared over 11,000 times on tumbler. outraged customers flocked to facebook and twitter pages. the company which prides itself on customer service made matters worse when they responded to the complaint with an auto tweet that was quickly mopped online. >> this is a tragic case and our sympathies go out to mr. fisher and his family. >> progressive told "cbs this morning," a jury determined that the other driver was at fault in ms. fisher's accident. in accordance with that decision, progressive is actively working with the fisher family and their legal representative to resolve the claim. progressive participated in the trial procedures on our ownby half. while nationwide represented the other driver. but it didn't look that way to matt fisher. >> what did you see when you were at the trial? >> he defended that guy in the case. he argued to the jury in his opening statement that he should not be found negligent. he cross-examined our witnesses, he conducted direct examination of their witnesses and at the end, he made a closing statement. he argued that the other guy had a green light. my sister had a red light. >> a lot of people might be upset about that. say it's not good faith. from a strictly legal point of view, that's what insurance company is allowed to do under those circumstances. >> i've never met siblings as close as we were. i don't think anyone has ever loved me as much as my sister did. >> in a statement sent to "cbs this morning," progressive said as of last night we understand from our attorney that an agreement has been reached with the fisher family. however, we don't know the details of that agreement. anthony and gayle. >> elaine quijano. thanks. game.ow the powerball waiting - who bought that $337 million ticket? we'll go to the drawing and tell you how they guard against any chance of fraud on "cbs this morning." okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? 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[ music playing ] [ music playing ] ♪ luck be a lady tonight ♪ >> that's the perfect song for this story. the odds were 170 million to 1. but a ticket buyer matched all the numbers winning a jackpot estimated at, $337 million with an m. lottery officials say the one winning ticket was sold in la peer, michigan at a sunoco station. manuel is where the powerball took place. >> do you know anybody there in michigan. >> i do not. i'm hoping i'll get to find somebody there. hey, where in the studio right now where that drawing happened. a lot of excitement here last night. they used lottery balls very similar to these right here. i got to point out, they're letting me hold these because they're from a retired set. there are a lot of strict rules here. the balls which are currently in use cannot be touched by bare hands much it's one of the many things we learned last night as we went behind the scenes. >> get ready everybody. this is powerball. >> this is the moment millions in america waited for last night. hoping to win the third largest powerball jackpot in history. $337 million. more than 86 million tickets were sold across the country. and while drawing six numbers might look simple, you may be surprised by how much work goes into pulling it off. >> a lot of people when they find out what i do, they think oh, with a lottery job, what you do is come inside minutes before a drawing, pull some equipment out, do the number and you're done. >> we asked sue dooley of the multistate lottery to take us behind the scenes of the powerball drawings which happen in tallahassee, florida. the preparation starts two hours before the live drawing and while many last minute ticket are still being bought. >> every player, when they put down their $2 for a powerball ticket, has an equal chance of winning just as much as anyone else. >> it starts here. four people must be present to even unlock this hall where the machines and multiple sets of lottery balls are stored. the ones used for any given drawing are chosen randomly. >> no one really knows what equipment is going to be used on any given night. >> exactly. less than two hours before a drawing -- >> at 9:30 the equipment is moved into the studio and the load-in begins. >> would i be able to hold one? >> not one of these. >> the red and white balls are made of rubber. each cost $60. has a life span of two to three years and weighs around 80 grams. they must be in close in weight as possible. the average difference a mere .3 of a gram. the machine which cost $55,000 each are then tested. but officials here are not the only ones keeping a close eye on things. there are cameras everywhere which are monitored outside des moines, iowa, at the multistate lottery corporation head kworsers. there's a lot at stake. tickets are sold in 42 of the 50 states, washington, d.c. and the virgin islands. since 1992, powerball awarded $20 billion in money. an hour before the 11:00 p.m. eastern time drawing, the final rehearsals are getting under way. >> while officials in iowa count the latest returns so the most accurate jackpot total can be announced. >> $337 million. >> at 10:30, the final load-in. then it's time to wait. counting down the minutes, then the seconds before the big moment. the host told us before the drawing on a night like this, he feels the pressure >> it's the first opportunity everyone in america gets to see the winning numbers. i think that's one of the coolest things about what i get to do. it's not the next day in the paper. it's mo not on the nightly news. for many people it's live. you get to see if your $2 paid off really big. big. >> and they did. >> it is the number 21. >> michigan is a winner. >> within an hour of the drawing, the folks in iowa got word there's a winning ticket. >> as you mentioned earlier, we do know a little bit more about that winning ticket this morning sold in la peer michigan at a gas station north of detroit. we still do not know who holds the ticket this morning. whether it's an individual or a group. if they come forward today, we could find out later or it could apple reportedly has a new plan to capture your cable service. it could change the way you watch tv. they're hoping. that's coming up next on "cbs this morning." wider awake. only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool memory foam layered on top of beautyrest pocketed coils to promote proper sleeping posture all night long. the revolutionary recharge sleep system from beautyrest... it's you, fully charged. receive up to a $300 beautyrest visa prepaid card when you buy select beautyrest mattress sets. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ [ female announcer ] fresh milk and real cream makes philadelphia and the moment a little richer. and the family car to do an experiment. we put a week of her family's smelly stuff all in at once to prove that febreze car vent clips could eliminate the odor. then we brought her family to our test facility to see if it worked. 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[ male announcer ] febreze car. eliminates odors for continuous freshness, so you can breathe happy. eliminates odors for continuous freshness, apple tv 2.0. the wall street journal reports apple is negotiating with major cable tv companies to let consumers use an apple device in place of their cable box. us th. brian, good morning. >> good morning. >> what exactly is apple trying to do here? is it really a game changer? >> it could be. now, here's the minimum idea. take the current apple tchlt box which is basically an internet streaming box and also let you download internet video of major shows and then add a cable box to it. kind of a mash-up if you will. that to me, is the minimum of this vision. i think the bigger idea is for them to take their box and turn it into one that gets everything via the internet. so it would be streaming all those channels you get on cable right now, which includes several holy grails, local news, live sports and all those things that you currently don't or can't legally get as an internet stream or download. >> does it mean, though, brian that we have to buy another box for hundreds of dollars? >> yeah, gayle. this would definitely be another device. the current apple tchlt box just doesn't go there. not into this new vision. the idea is to change pricing on a couple of levels. first, as you mentioned, you have to buy a new box, who knows how much it would be. the current one is 100 bucks. the a la carte pricing of channels would be a big part of this vision. we buy a big bundle of cable. consumers grouse that they don't want some of the channels. the ones subsidize. -- you would have more control over buying the champs you want and not have to buy this huge array of them the way we do today. that may take a few years to iterate into. >> is apple following the same playbook that it did with the mobile phone industry, convincing others to marry their apps with apple formats? >> this is about talking to the cable companies and also the rights holders, the big studios and broadcast networks and cable networks who produce and own the shows that people care about the most. they hold the keys to the kingdom. the cable guys hold the keys to current distribution. those are both key parts at this point that apple has to go talk to both of them. this is really more about deals in my mind than it is about the technology and the new box. they could do that today. cutting a new deal that allows all that broadcast content to be distributed in different on-demand, a la carte choice ways, that's the real revolution here. >> does the cable industry appear to be receptive? >> well, we noah cording to the reports that apple has been talking to the usual suspects, the big cable guys. realize, gayle, how much is at stake here. billions of dollars literally in current revenue is at stake in the current model. that's not going to be tipped very easily. i expect when and if the box arrives -- it should be a technology built into the new apple television, not just an add-on box that i think it will be coming in some degree of stages. but the ultimate goal is totally streaming. >> brian cooley thanks. stay with us. we'll be right back on "cbs this morning." >> this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by hershey's kisses. delightfully delicious one of a kind kisses. ♪ [ male announcer ] aggressive styling. a more fuel-efficient turbocharged engine. and a completely redesigned interior. the 2012 c-class with over 2,000 refinements. it's amazing...inside and out. ♪ join mercedes-benz usa on facebook for the best summer sweepstakes. to help keep stuff off their hands. ♪ this back to school ♪ there's a new routine ♪ grab a kleenex® tissue to help keep your hands clean ♪ ♪ every time you sneeze no matter where ♪ ♪ ya gotta shield sneeze swish like you just don't care ♪ ♪ shield sneeze swish ♪ check out my swish ♪ da da da da da, da da da da da ♪ [ female announcer ] only kleenex® brand has sneeze shield in all their tissues to help keep stuff off kids' hands. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you've been years in the making. and there are many years ahead. join the millions of members who've chosen an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. go long. insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. its first lawsuit in connection with last week's refinery fire in richmond. a suit claims they suffered fire related and bonuses, emotional distress and other hardships. the suit accuses the oil company of being grossly negligent. the san francisco giants will have to do without one of their best players for the regular season and then some. baseball has a brand it suspended him for 50,,,,,,,, >> let's start off with a live look at the bay bridge toll plaza where delays are not that bad at all this morning. out to milpitas, westbound 237, traffic is lighter than we typically see. one more live look along the peninsula, southbound 101 we are starting to see some brake lights as you work your way past sfo. >> some drizzle on the lands they're looking towards the transamerica building. 50s and 60s now with patchy fog lingering at the coastline. inside the day you will find sunny and 72 m 92 in livermore. ,,,,,,,,,, are you awake? it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. charlie rose is off today. >> i'm anthony mason. back with us is james brown, j.b. >> everything is rhetorical, right? >> good to see you guys as well. >> a new york man is out on bail this morning. charged with faking his own death to cash in on hundreds of thousands of dollars in insurance money. as erin moriarty reports, his son has also been charged and now they're blaming each other. >> for a man who supposedly drowned last month, this man looked pretty healthy in new york wednesday. he was released on $100,000 bail after pleading not guilty to fraud charges. >> he was going to florida, absolutely. but he didn't intend to commit insurance fraud. >> authorities say the 47-year-old and his son jonathan hatched a plan to collect more than $400,000 in life insurance. jonathan ross told park police his father was missing. sparking a massive search costing more than $30,000. days later, the missing man's brother told authorities roth was staying at his orlando timeshare. >> there was an enormous effort here with helicopters and boats and divers going out looking for this man when he was driving on his way to florida. >> his wife believed her husband was dead until she discovered e-mails between him and her stepson. >> i was planning a funeral for him. and then to find out he's alive, it's anger, it's sadness. >> in one e-mail ross tells his son, there need to be a way for me to find out how things are going. call me sunday night at the resort. that's the day after he vanished. >> ross' lawyer says the plot was all the son's doing and that raymond ross only wanted to get away after being fired from his job. fired after threatening co-workers. >> he was getting out of here to avoid the pressures that he felt were coming down on him from loss of employment, from the bills. >> his son's lawyer, though, says his client was abused by his father for years and was forced into filing the claim. >> this case, in and of itself, is about three things in my mind. it's about coercion, it's about the abuse we talked about and it's about manipulation. >> if convicted, both men face up to 15 years in prison. erin moriarty is here along with jack ford. hello, you two. >> with both sides blaming each other, will it be tough for the prosecution to prove the case? >> i think there's more evidence against the son. because the father took off and the son told the police his dad was missing. he allegedly also said they came in one car when, in fact, they came in two cars. and he's the one who filed the claim. but i think what may help the son is the fact his -- how does a 22-year-old know what insurance company to call when the wife didn't know what the insurance was. it was a corporate policy for met life. and the son knew where to make the claim. i think that had to come from the dad. >> the defense, though, is saying that the father knew nothing about insurance fraud and was actually mentally ill. how difficult is that to prove? >> it's a combination of things. as gayle said, part of the defense is this. not me, this guy over here. >> from the father's perspective setting the stage right now, we've seen the fact that he was having a problem, claimed that he was bipolar, that he was in for treatment. that can be a mitigating factor for things. you won't get a full blown insanity for that. there are a couple of different types of charges. in terms of faking your death, there is no question that he did that. they're going to try to suggest a "why" answer that might diminish what the punishment could be or his responsibility. but the prosecution is going to walk in as erin said and be the summation will be really? is that really what they want you to believe as the jurors? that the father didn't know about the money? >> let me play off gayle's question about them blaming each other. will they be tried together or separately? >> that's a good question. that's inside baseball in terms of the law. generally speaking if you have two guys charged with a crime, you try them separately because the constitution requires that one defendant has an ability not to be forced to testify and if the other guy's statement is going to be used that they both did it, it forces them to get on the stand. if there's a conspiracy count as there is in here, the law allows co-conspirators to be tried together and it's one of the exceptions where the law says the statement of one of the co-conspirators can be used against the other. so if i'm the prosecutor, i want them both in here. at the same time, i want to throw everything in front of the jury and then say, come on, really. you think they didn't know what was going on? >> i think they're going to try to flip the son and have the son testify against father. i think that makes the most sense in this kind of case. also, the father let him sit in jail for a week. >> i know. >> i'm finding it's incredibly sad. at first you chuckle about the case. but it's so sad to throw his son under the bus. but i assume he thinks that the young man wouldn't get the same kind of penalty. >> if i'm the defense attorney for the son, i'm in the prosecutor's office saying let's work something out. you need his testimony. i get something back from you. let's work this thing out. >> it is now 8 are the chemicals in your beauty products really harmful to your health? one major company decided to pull them. we'll tell you why. that's coming up next on "cbs this morning." tell you why. that's coming up on "cbs this morning." hey parents, it's a big year. i'm not just teaching music. ♪ i'm teaching performance. here's what they'll need. ♪ get your backpack, your hoodies, harajuku, ♪ ♪ turquoise kinda purple orangish sorta blue. ♪ ♪ backpacks, yeow, ♪ to put their stuff in. ♪ graphic tees and denim, denim, denim, denim. ♪ ♪ backpacks. school takes a lot, target has is all. to make peanut butter so deliciously creamy. it might just make you feel like a kid again. 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[ applause ] >> that's just great. darn, this is a blue pen. i wanted a black one. oh, well. >> that's good. >> i wish we could get that service around here. how many times do you think they had to practice that? >> one. those girls are that good. >> how many times would we have to practice that, right? >> i'm not even going to try that. a big change is coming to the $60 billion a year personal care industry. on wednesday, under pressure from health and environmental groups, johnson & johnson announced it will remove potentially dangerous chemicals from nearly all its toiletries and cosmetics by 2015. >> the company is already on track to do that with baby products by next year. dr. philip landrigan of mount sinai medicine studies chemical exposure. >> good morning. great to be here. >> glad to have you. do you think this is a good thing or more of a pr move? >> i think it's absolutely a good thing. i think johnson & johnson has taken a proactive step that's necessary and very important. >> we want to look at the statement that was put out. they say we're doing this because w're listening to the people who rely on our products and if they have concerns, we're committed to addressing them as long as we can do so safely and effectively. how do we know in fact products are safe? who tests them? >> i think that's the bigger story here. it's good that j and j is taking out the toxic chemicals. why were they in there in the first place and why were they allowed to stay so long? i think the answer to the questions is the legal system is supposed to protect americans against toxic chemicals, it's fundamentally broken. it's been broken for decades. >> disturbing that a lot of the products and chemicals are in baby products. talk about personal care products first. which are of the most concern to you? >> looking at the list of chemicals they're about to remove, let's start with formaldehyde. it's a proven human carcinogen. causes cancer. the next one on the list is phthalates. when they get into the human body, they interfere and scramble between the cells. that's especially important in early development. if a baby in the womb is exposed to fa to% phthalates that the mom puts on her skin while pregnant, travel into her bloodstream, get to the baby, they can cause brain damage to the baby, loss of iq, alteration of behavior, even some behaviors that resemble autism. this is not good. yet we allow these chemicals in products. >> do you think we now need to start reading our bottles? most people may read for food. but i don't know too many that read beauty product labels. >> i think absolutely people start to need -- they need to start reading the labels on beauty products, on soaps and shampoos. there are websites they can go to to learn which are the safe products. individual responsibility is always important. we also need new laws in the country. we have a broken legal structure here. the congress needs to fix that. we need to pass safe chemical legislation. >> how common is it that these are in the beauty products? is this an anomaly at j and j? >> it's common -- there are safe products out there. if you can go to some of the websites like ewg.org, people can get lists of the cosmetics that contain phthalates and those that are phthalate free. people have to do that. absolutely. >> why is the overseeing part of this broken? >> the problem is that we're dealing with a law called the toxic substances control act, which was passed way back in 1977. and it's based on outdated science, based on outdated assumptions. back when that legislation was passed, nobody understood how vulnerable fetuses, infants and children are to toxic chemicals. >> how serious is this problem? >> the problem of chemicals and consumer products is very serious. there are thousands of consumer -- there are thousands synthetic chemicals in consumer products today that have never ever undergone safety testing. i consider that to be a national scandal. >> so your number one beauty product is? i want to use what you're using. >> i don't take brand names. i'm sorry. >> i'll talk to you off camera. thank you. >> has his own concoction. >> thank you for joining us. very important stuff. airlines have something new to fight turbulence. the biggest advance in weather radar in 40 years. captain sully sullenberger will show us how the new technology is making travel safer too. you're watching "cbs this morning." er the break. you're watching "cbs this morning." ♪ # okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite, hmb to help rebuild muscle and strength naturally lost over time. 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>> it makes the pilot's job much easier and more inthu teu tiff to figure out what the weather is ahead of you the pilots have to carefully manually adjust the tilt, the vertical angle that the antenna makes looking at vertical slices or horizontal slices of the weather ahead. these new technologies and products automate that and look ahead automatically and complete a 3d picture of the weather ahead. it doesn't require as much individual pilot skill and it's easier to interpret. >> so captain, that leads me to the obvious next question. you say the radar reading is a dark art, if you will. what do you mean by that? >> the credit to learning to playing a violin. there are some pilots who have skills and well-learned. there are some pilots who aren't quite as perfect in them. interestingly, traditionally, most airlines have given their pilots very little formal training in the use and interpretation of weather radar. it's something expected to have when they get to the airline or pick up as they go along and get better at over the years of flying. so this is sort of an equalizer. it makes it easier with less workload. the proper interpretation of it. it doesn't require this same manual antenna tilt adjustment to be able to accurately see the vertical tilt of the storm. it makes it more likely that you'll be able to correctly interpret whether the weather ahead is a threat or not. >> do you think, sully, relying on more technology can be a liability? sometimes technology can fail. >> i think in this case, i think it's going to be a plus. you know, obviously there are always unintended consequences and one of the surprising things about this particular product is it removes from the pilot's ability to change the manual setting of the tilt. that technology, that capability to manually set the tilt would no longer exist in this particular product. other products ducts that are similar, that's still possible. the computer algorithm accurately gauge where the characteristic things are there to be able to interpret the radar more intuitively. >> thank ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, good morning. in the headlines suspended sentences could share should find out today with the ethics commission expects some to be removed from office. the commission expected to wrap up the deliberations of today as supporters and opponents will rally at noon at city hall. chevron facing their first lawsuit in connection with last week's fire at the richmond refinery. the suit on behalf of 9000 arrest president's claims they suffered fire related illnesses in mohsen emotional distress and hardships. investigating how cameras hidden in the mission of the a coast door to record customers. it's unclear how much of the camera and a in a picture frame or how long was switched on customers say the discovery has left them on edge. good morning. we have a new accident reported in the south bay northbound to 80 approaching sixth there is one lane blocked. on the bridges in the bay area and note issues at all headed toward to the bay bridge a car the the delay headed into san francisco. the golden gate a lot of fog this morning but southbound 101 traffic is not affected and everything is moving fine so far. the richmond center fell bridge was down 580 is moving ok into marin county. how about a ticket to the beach a fine start the day a little gray and drizzly but other of the vat looking good so far as we head through the afternoon a lot of cloud cover to the coastline with '50s and '60s right now. plenty of sunshine and some of the bay area 72 degrees in oakland and 76 in mountain view is still '90s in the valley is the only 50s and 60s towards the beaches and the next couple of days no major changes but some cloud cover likely to make our way into the skies. ♪ ♪ [ banjos playing ] >> never forget that song. welcome back to "cbs this morning." it was 40 years ago this summer, a movie called deliverance made a big star out of burt reynolds and showcased the beauty of a little known part of the south while scaring the heck out of the people with the terrifying depiction about some of locals who lived there. mark strassmann visited the area where the movie was filmed and found it has had a deep and lasting impact. >> where are you going, city boy? >> we'll find it. >> in the 1972 release "deliverance" four atlanta businessmen test themselves. navigating an untamed river in south appalachia. >> they end up lost in a depraved back woods culture. >> audiences saw brutality and beauty. especially in north georgia's chattooga river where the movie was shot. people wanted to experience the river themselves. isolated mountain communities like raven county, georgia, suddenly had tourists >> the release of the movie launched rafting in the southeast. >> jack wise is the ceo of wild water. the first of three major rafting companies that opened here after the movie's release. >> the movie was a great thing for the river x it was a great thing for rafting and adventure seekers all over the country as far as getting out and developing the area. >> 30,000 people a year raft these waters. a $20 million local industry. but the movie's impact went well beyond the river's banks. >> in deliverance, north georgia was discovered. the state's movie industry took off. so many tourists came, the chattooga river became federally protected. it can never be dammed or developed. to this day, some locals hate deliverance. >> i find "deliverance" less -- that means not at all. >> barbara wood all is an author, a grandmother and self-described plain old mountain gal. she says deliverance put mortgage georgia on the map for all the wrong reasons. >> it was repulsive. stereotyping. >> what in particular? >> what stereotyping? that we're all ignorant, stupid hillbillies strayed from the land of nine-fingered people. >> talk about genetic deficiencies. >> god forbid you come face to face with an inbred hillbilly. it's a wrongful depiction of a humble happy people. that didn't deserve to be assaulted on the silver screen like that. >> ♪ ♪ >> in "deliverance" this banjo playing boy became the face of the movie's back woods ster stereoty stereotype. the actor was billy redden. he's now a maintenance man at the local walmart. >> to this day do people say are you the banjo guy? i say yeah. >> when he was 15, a casting director came to his school and picked him on looks alone. he had never acted before and could not play the banjo. >> did you have any idea what the part was? >> i did not. i had people come to me, how did you ever get that part? i guess it just come natural. >> redden likes the movie and doesn't see the controversy. >> to you it's just a movie in. >> just a movie. >> nothing more? >> i just wish that somebody would stop and realize that it's just a movie. if you don't want to watch it, don't watch it. >> but barbara wood all is still spitting mad. >> it's not just a movie when a culture has been assaulted. >> she says hollywood came to her mountains, laughed and left. >> i wish the movie scars would disappear like the movie stars, but they don't. they're still around. there's still people that parade t-shirts up and down. if you hear banjos, pedal faster. >> when deliverance first came out, no one imagined it would become a pop culture icon. >> don't come back up here. >> you don't have to worry about that, sheriff. >> its lasting influence for better and for worse became another unexpected bend along the river. >> for "cbs this morning," mark strassmann in raven county, georgia. >> i could see why people who live there would be upset. i see his point too, it's just a movie. i remember that movie being traumatizing when i first saw it years ago. i'd like to see it again. >> i think if you live in a remote place like that, hollywood comes in, it's incredibly intrusive. >> i think the woman is a very effective spokeswoman. >> yes, she is. >> sign her up. jennifer garner says she does not want to be type cast as a mom but that's exactly what she is both on and off the screen. this morning she's talking about her new film and about life with her husband. that would be ben affleck and their three children. before we talk to her, let's take one more check ♪ ♪ in her new movie, the aught life of timothy green, jennifer garner plays a small town wife who has given up her dream to have a chied. when an unusual boy shows up unexpectedly, she and her husband do their best to be good parents. >> what did you nut there? he's about to fall over. >> anything he might need. notebooks, pencils. there's a box of tissues on the bottom. ths a whole first raid kit actually. healthy snacks and treats and graham crackers. flashlights and batteries. >> mom, i think i can handle it from here. >> there's an extra -- >> have a great day. >> that's too much pressure. >> have a day you have. >> he's like mom, chill. jennifer garner is here in studio 57. good morning to you, jennifer garner. >> good morning. >> i sew related to the movie in terms of a young mother who wants to do everything right with her child. >> it's so right. the first-time parenting thing. you can't get around it. the first time you're a parent, you are a first-time parent. the harder you try, the more you get in your kids' way. that happens to cindy green. >> her son was -- timothy would say mom, it's okay. it's all right. just relax. >> this movie is a rather -- it's a lot about how much your kids teach you. this little boy, in real life c.j. adams but in the film, timothy green is kind of a oi owe. >> for me jennifer, i am thinking i've seen you in many roles. i've been smitten with you for a long time. >> felicity, alias. i was there. >> it's one of the rare times we see you playing a mom on screen. >> it's the first time i played a mom for a whole movie. >> how did you feel about that? you really know this mom stuff. >> yeah. you can't help it. i was picky about the first time i was going to play a mom. it feels like i'm exposing something that's very intimate to me. but there was no -- i absolutely was dying to play this role because i think peter, who wrote and directed the film, got so much right about parenting. anyone can relate to the relationships in this film, whether you're a parent or brother or sister or father. this is a very relationship-rich movie. >> of all the stuff that comes to you, the scripts that come, why did you say i want to be cindy green sm. >> i wanted it because i loved the realism of the relationships wrapped up in this magical music box. i felt like it would be -- >> magical music box. >> like it would be a movie that parents would love and that kids would love. that has turned out to be true. kids think the movie is for them. parents think the movie is for them. you see what you see in the film. >> it really does cover the gamut. but i got such a kick out of you because, can i just say i was so happy when you had a little baby boy. >> thank you, me too. >> you have two girls and there's nothing wrong with having another girl. girls a great. i wanted a little brother or -- did you want a boy as much as i wanted you to have a boy? >> i don't know. i come from three sisters. i couldn't help but imagine my kids being three sisters. i'm so nuts about my husband. >> having a little baby boy, what's the difference between girls and boys? there is a difference. i read that people say you're different with your son than your daughter. do you think that's true? >> there he is. hi honey. he thinks it's true. >> hi honey. >> he thinks that i'm different. i don't think so. he's five months old. i just feel like i love the baby stage. he thinks i'm even more en no, ma'am ar orred. i don't know. >> the baby stage flies by. >> it goes. >> >> i just turned 40. >> you're older than ben. >> by four months. i'm cougar. >> cougar looks good on you. >> continued success to you, jennifer. are you nervous about the opening of the odd life of timothy green? >> i get nervous. but it's so out of my hands. i've felt this evangelical need to tell people about this movie. so that makes press a lot easier because i do love it so much. i feel like it's a life affirming movie at the end of a summer. summers are full of action and special effects and blockbustery feel. this isn't that. you walk out of this and you feel lucky to have your life. it's been a pleasure, a pleasure to talk about. >> it is true. you walk out of there and you feel good. you're happy for you, you're happy for him. you're happy for the movie. it has a nice tie at the end that i won't giveaway. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i know you want to. >> i really do. but i won't. jennifer garner, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> the odd life of timothy green is in theaters right now. some people get all their news from jon stewart. jon stewart hates that he says. we'll show you what else he told charlie rose about the daily show. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,, two major political party conventions are upon us. in tampa, the live act shut their eyes and nominate romney and democrats get together in charlotte the week after and scheduling surprise guests. democratic convention planners are seeking a guy soldier and a fellow straight soldier who served together in iraq and afghanistan and ideally the straight soldier was helped by the guy soldier. it's complicated. probably easier than their final guest, a cop who rescues a construction worker. with an inyand chief who are friends with a motorcycle guy. >> it all ties together, doesn't it? >> it does. this morning we have jon stewart in a classic charlie rose conversation in 2004. the host of comedy central's daily show spoke with charlie about taking a serious view of politics then making it funny. >> how do you see your role in terms of what the daily show is? is it pure entertainment or is it more? >> i don't see it as -- i don't see it for anything outside of our goal, which is to do the funniest, smartest show about things we care about that we can do. so in essence, it's ultimately a pretty selfish pursuit. i know that sounds sad. but it is i mean, it's true. >> these are things you care about. >> yes. we care about politics and world events and things like that. that's the most interesting thing to us. in the way that -- here's what we would like to be, honestly. i look at seinfeld, the show seinfeld as truly just one of the most incredibly well-created and executed shows of all-time. each episode was so well-crafted. >> a play on urban life in their time. >> the observations and the characters, we would love to be that successful in terms of -- obviously, look, we do it every day. some days we do well and other days we don't. on a consistent basis, we would love to be that good, that competent. at attacking our world. that's really what we try and do. >> i have never -- you know what, just watch it, just watch it. >> you i wish we lived in the day where you could challenge a person's idea. >> that's democratic, georgia senator bill miller building that wrij to the 18th century. >> where do you get your information? >> on the top of -- most of my information is sports scores. as it goes by, toronto beat tampa bay. >> that's probably exactly right. i always love that, that literally cabs now have sports scores because god forbid that you get home and you don't know the score. between the time you left your office and gotten into your car a game may have ended and the score gone unreported. it's wild. >> but do you watch other television programs? do you watch the evening news? >> i don't watch the evening news. that's typically when we're taping our shows. i have the 24 hours on all the time, which is -- >> cnn, fox? >> absolutely. >> if i can get one message across to the viewers right now. don't do that. it's not helpful. and if anything, it just makes you upset. >> get any political news -- i'll come back to this. those who get their political news from you. >> again a mistake. although, again, that's something that is postulated and not proven. i would very much doubt that anyone could -- we take so much knowledge for granted on the show that if you were looking to us for information and news, you would be sorely lost. i don't know that you could do it. our show would appear to be like charlie brown's teachers. it would be me going like this. it wouldn't make any sense. >> all of the brilliant takes that you do in terms of being able to stop and all of the action that you do, is that just intuitive? >> i believe it's called mugging. >> mugging. something i learned. it's an arc type of my people. my people want to be liked. >> these are ancient -- >> the arc a types of years past. >> it's an ode -- >> it's inherent or when you -- when your people are chased by pagrams. you find it might be better to be more likeable. >> you can mug better than everybody else. >> we would like you to let us stay. whenever we see people looking at us in a funny way -- >> did you do it and somebody said, god, that's great? >> no. i think that -- you do -- the best thing comes what's natural to you. i think that's what's natural to me. you're always trying to find the perfect face. obviously, i'm sure there are times when it is overused as a crutch in lieu of a sharp joke. you know, it is -- we only have so many ingredients to make tacos with. it's either going to be -- this one will be a bean one and that one a chicken one. to a certain extent, you're always going to the different -- >> one of the things he did well. >> he was, though, the master of the dead space. he just -- where i think my facial expressions are slightly meatier than his -- >> meatier? meaning what? >> meaning more active. his were i think more passive and more jack benny sort of living in the silence. i think he enjoyed living in the silence. >> like punctuation. >> when i live in the silence, then the voice goes, you failed everyone that ever loved you and i have to make a face to get it out there. >> the voices talking to you. >> exactly. >> his was, i think, the protestant version of what i do. >> the nebraskan version? the refined version that was far more dignified. >> have you built the show with all the people that contributed that is perfect for you? >> in that i haven't been fired yet, i would say yes. >> no. but you don't -- >> i mean, the way you've cast it, the time of it, the way you do it, having a guest that you can do, are you sometimes having fun? >> i love it and recognize how fortunate i am to be in that place at that time with the people i'm working with. with the writers, producers and correspondents that are around me. because they are not only, i think, talented people, but kind people. and reasonable people and like-minded people and very much the workday is at times relentless and somewhat excruciating. but somebody is always stepping up to bring some inspiration to the table. >> he said he wanted to be that good and that competent as seinfeld. i would say mission accomplished for jon stewart. >> you know, he also said he doesn't want people to try to get their news from his show. i think there are a lot of people who actually do. >> i know that that's true. >> on a lighter note, are either of you honest enough to acknowledge that there are voices in your head? >> there were early this morning. >> not today. >> we'd like to stay but we have to go. that does it for us. up next, your local news. we'll see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." we'll see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." thanks for being with us. good morning. and the headlines today and ethics commission is getting ready to tell san francisco a share of whether he should lose his job. he was suspended in march after pleading guilty to misdemeanor false imprisonment. engineers in the bay bridge due to start transferring 35,000 t of steel on the newsstand today and they finished it will have built the largest self supporting rich this part of the construction should last three months. a proud day for petaluma's little league team appearing in their first world series game at noon and pennsylvania and supporters that could not make the flight had been invited to a special screening at the city's boulevard 14 cinemas and should be exciting. a lot of sunshine in the valleys today it's not too bad right now in the valley with some fog lingering but more sunshine on the way the high pressure building in just a little bit out of the four corners them. warmer temperatures to the ballet's the still cool to the coast and eventually some of the moisture seeping in to blue skies late by tomorrow afternoon. 80s and 90s in the and 60s and san francisco and '50s and '60s toward the coastline. , cover late friday and saturday and cooler than normal temperatures as we looked would next week. the traffic up next. chp is not working on any major hot spots with a couple of earlier fender benders that have been cleared with a live look at traffic across the golden gate bridge. the visibility may be an issue headed into san francisco. the drive across the span has no problems. the bay bridge traffic has been light all morning the trend amid green lights on at the usual time and it never releasing any big backups this morning a great day. one more camera a live look at the san mateo bridge the right side of the screen westbound 92 still about a 50 minute drive time out of hayward. time out of hayward.