Its called hengdian world studios, and at over 7,000 acres, its the largest film lot on the planet. Youre going to use hollywood directors, hollywood stars yes. Williams to make english language films to compete with hollywood . Yes. Williams and make global blockbusters . Yes. I think well be doing it in the next one or two years. Leslie stahl Schuyler Bailar seemed to be a young woman who had it all outstanding grades, admission to harvard. For harvard. Stahl and a top spot on their Womens Swim Team. Number 22, Schuyler Bailar stahl schuyler still swims for harvard, but hes now on the mens team. Welcomed by his classmates as an openlytransgender athlete. How different are you . If i had met you a couple of years ago and then saw you today physically . Yeah, you might not recognize me today. Stahl you look that different . I would say so, yeah. Im steve kroft im leslie stahl im Bill Whitaker im scott pelley. Those stories tonight on 60 minutes. 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Tonight, you will hear from some of the people who have read them and believe, along with the families of 9 11 victims, that they should be declassified. Senator bob graham i think it is implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didnt speak english, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many of whom didnt have a High School Education couldve carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States. Kroft and you believe that the 28 pages are crucial to this . Understand. Senator graham i think they are a key part. Kroft former u. S. Senator bob graham has been trying to get the 28 pages released since the day they were classified back in 2003, when he played a major role in the first government investigation into 9 11. Senator graham i remain deeply disturbed by the amount of material that has been censored from this report. Kroft at the time, graham was chairman of the Senate Select committee on intelligence. I call the joint inquiry to order. Kroft and cochair of the bipartisan joint congressional inquiry into intelligence failures surrounding the attacks. The joint inquiry reviewed 500,000 documents, interviewed hundreds of witnesses and produced an 838 page report, minus the final chapter which was blanked out, excised by the Bush Administration for reasons of national security. So this is your office. Bob graham wont discuss the classified information in the 28 pages. He will say only that they outline a network of people that he believes supported the hijackers while they were in the u. S. You believe that support came from saudi arabia . Senator graham substantially. Kroft and when we say, the saudis, you mean the government, the senator graham i mean kroft rich people in the country . Charities senator graham all of the above. Kroft graham and others believe the saudi role has been softpedaled to protect a delicate relationship with a complicated kingdom where the rulers, royalty, riches and religion are all deeply intertwined in its institutions. Porter goss i call this hearing to order. Kroft porter goss, who was grahams republican cochairman on the house side of the joint inquiry, and later director of the c. I. A. , also felt strongly that an uncensored version of the 28 pages should be included in the final report. The two men made their case to the f. B. I. And its thendirector Robert Mueller in a facetoface meeting. Goss and they pushed back very hard on the 28 pages and they said, no, that cannot be unclassified at this time. Kroft did you happen to ask the f. B. I. Director why it was classified . Goss we did in a general way, and the answer was because, we said so and it needs to laughs be classified. Kroft goss says he knew of no reason then and knows of no reason now why the pages need to be classified. They are locked away under the capital in guarded vaults called sensitive comartmented information facilitiesor skiffs in government jargon. This is as close as we could get with our cameras a highly restricted area where members of congress with the proper clearances can read the documents under close supervision. No notetaking allowed. Tim roemer its all got to go up here, steve. Kroft tim roemer, a former democratic congressman and u. S. Ambassador to india, has read the 28 pages multiple times. First as a member of the joint inquiry, and later as a member of the blue ribbon 9 11 commission which picked up where Congress Investigation left off. How hard is it to actually read these 28 pages . Roemer very hard. These are tough documents to get your eyes on. Kroft roemer and others who have actually read the 28 pages, describe them as a working draft similar to a grand jury or Police Report that includes provocative evidence. Some verified, and some not, they lay out the possibility of official saudi assistance for two of the hijackers who settled in southern california. That information from the 28 pages was turned over to the 9 11 commission for further investigation. Some of the questions raised were answered in the commissions final report. Others were not. Is there information in the 28 pages that, if they were declassified, would surprise people . Roemer sure, youre gonna be surprised by it. And youre gonna be surprised by some of the answers that are sitting there today in the 9 11 Commission Report about what happened in san diego, and what happened in los angeles and what was the saudi involvement. Kroft much of that surprising information is buried in footnotes and appendices of the 9 11 report. Part of the official public record, but most of it unknown to the general public. These are some, but not all of the facts in january of 2000, the first of the hijackers landed in los angeles after attending an al qaeda summit in kuala lumpur, malaysia. The two saudi nationals, Nawaf Al Hazmi and khalid al mihdhar, arrived with extremely limited Language Skills and no experience with western culture. Yet, through an incredible series of circumstances, they managed to get everything they needed, from housing to flight lessons. Roemer l. A. , san diego, thats really you know, the hornets nest. Thats really the one that i continue to think about almost on a daily basis. Kroft during their first days in l. A. , witnesses place the two future hijackers at the king fahd mosque in the company of fahad althumairy, a diplomat at the saudi consulate known to hold extremist views. Later, 9 11 investigators would find him deceptive and suspicious and in 2003, he would be denied reentry to the United States for having suspected ties to terrorist activity. Roemer this is a very interesting person in the whole 9 11 episode of who mightve helped whom in los angeles and san diego, with two terrorists who didnt know their way around. Kroft phone records show that thumairy was also in regular contact with this man omar albayoumi, a mysterious saudi who became the hijackers biggest benefactor. He was a ghost employee with a noshow job at a saudi aviation contractor outside los angeles while drawing a paycheck from the saudi government. You believe bayoumi was a saudi agent . Senator graham yes, and kroft what makes you believe that . Senator graham well, for one thing, he had been listed even before 9 11 in f. B. I. Files as being a saudi agent. Kroft on the morning of february 1st, 2000, bayoumi went to the office of the saudi consulate where thumairy worked. He then proceeded to have lunch at a middle Eastern Restaurant on venice boulevard, where he later claimed he just happened to make the acquaintance of the two future hijackers. Roemer hazmi and mihdhar magically run into bayoumi in a restaurant that bayoumi claims is a coincidence and in one of the biggest cities in the United States. Kroft and he decides to befriend them. Roemer he decides to not only befriend them but then to help them move to san diego and get residence. Kroft in san diego, bayoumi found them a place to live in his own apartment complex, advanced them the Security Deposit and cosigned the lease. He even threw them a party and introduced them to other muslims who would help the hijackers obtain government i. D. s and enroll in english classes and flight schools. Theres no evidence that bayoumi or thumairy knew what the future hijackers were up to, and it is possible that they were just trying to help fellow muslims. But the very day bayoumi welcomed the hijackers to san diego, there were four calls between his cell phone and the imam at a san diego mosque, anwar al aulaqi, a name that should sound familiar. Anwar alaulaqi america cannot and will not win kroft the americanborn aulaqi would be infamous a decade later, as al qaedas chief propagandist and top operative in yemen until he was taken out by a c. I. A. Drone. But in january 2001, a year after becoming the hijackers spiritual advisor, he left san diego for falls church, virginia. Months later, hazmi, mihdhar and three more hijackers would join him there. Roemer those are a lot of coincidences, and thats a lot of smoke. Is that enough to make you squirm and uncomfortable, and dig harder and declassify these 28 pages . Absolutely. Kroft perhaps no one is more interested in reading the 28 pages than attorneys Jim Kreindler and sean carter, who represent family members of the 9 11 victims in their lawsuit against the kingdom. Alleging that its institutions provided money to al qaeda, knowing that it was waging war against the United States. Jim kreindler what were doing in court isis developing the story that has to come out. But its been difficult for us because for many years, we werent getting the kind of openness and cooperation. That we think our government owes to the American People particularly the the families of people who were murdered. Kroft the u. S. Government has even backed the saudi position in court, that it cant be sued because it enjoys sovereign immunity. The 9 11 Commission Report says that saudi arabia has long been considered the primary source of alqaeda funding through its wealthy citizens and charities with significant government sponsorship. But the sentence that got the most attention when the report came out is this attorney sean carter says its the most carefully crafted line in the 911 Commission Report, and the most misunderstood. Sean carter when they say they found no evidence that senior saudi officials individually funded al qaeda, they conspicuously leave open the potential that they found evidence that people who were officials that they did not regard as senior officials had done so. That is the essence of the families lawsuit. That elements of the government and lower level officials sympathetic to bin ladens cause helped al qaeda carry out the attacks and help sustain the al qaeda network. Kroft yet, for more than a decade, the kingdom has maintained that that one sentence exonerated it of any responsibility for 911 regardless of what might be in the 28 pages. Bob kerrey its not an exoneration. What we said we did not, with this report, exonerate the saudis. Kroft former u. S. Senator bob kerrey is another of the tenmember 9 11 commission who has read the 28 pages and believes they should be declassified. He filed an affidavit in support of the 9 11 families lawsuit. Kerrey you cant provide the money for terrorists and then say, i dont have anything to do with what theyre doing. Kroft do you believe that all of the leads that were developed in the 28 pages were answered in the 911 report . All the questions . Kerrey no, no. In general, the 911 commission did not get every single detail of the conspiracy. We didnt. We didnt have the time, we didnt have the resources. We certainly didnt pursue the entire line of inquiry in regard to saudi arabia. Kroft do you think all of these things in san diego can be explained as coincidence . John lehman laughs i dont believe in coincidences. Kroft john lehman, who was secretary of the navy in the reagan administration, says that he and the others make up a solid majority of former 9 11 commissioners who think the 28 pages should be made public. Lehman were not a bunch of rubes that rode into washington for this commission. I mean, we, you know, weve seen fire and weve seen rain and the politics of national security. We all have dealt for our careers in highly classified and compartmentalized in every aspect of security. We know when something shouldnt be declassified. And the, this, those 28 pages in no way fall into that category. Kroft lehman has no doubt that some high saudi officials knew that assistance was being provided to al qaeda, but he doesnt think it was ever official policy. He also doesnt think that it absolves the saudis of responsibility. Lehman it was no accident that 15 of the 19 hijackers were saudis. They all went to saudi schools. They learned from the time they were first able to go to school of this intolerant brand of islam. Kroft lehman is talking about wahhabism, the ultra conservative, puritanical form of islam that is rooted here and permeates every facet of society. There is no separation of church and state. After oil, wahhabism is one of the kingdoms biggest exports. Saudi clerics, entrusted with islams holiest shrines, have immense power and billions of dollars to spread the faith. Building mosques and religious schools all over the world that have become recruiting grounds for violent extremists. 9 11 commissioner john lehman says all of this comes across in the 28 pages. Lehman this is not going to be a smoking gun that is going to cause a huge furor. But it does give a very compact illustration of the kinds of things that went on that that would really help the American People to understand why, what, how, how is it that these people are springing up all over the world to go to jihad . Roemer look, the saudis have even said theyre for declassifying it. We should declassify it. Is it sensitive, steve . Might it involve opening a bit a can of worms, or some snakes crawling out of there . Yes. But i think we need a relationship with the saudis. Where both countries are working together to fight against terrorism. 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So today, im prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. Every someday needs a plan. Lets talk about your old 401 k today. Stahl now, Holly Williams of cbs news on assignment for 60 minutes. Williams the chinese economy is in trouble, plagued by slowing growth and uncertainty in the stock markets. But theres one industry that isnt suffering the movie business. In february, the Chinese Box Office brought in over 1 billion for the first time ever, beating the u. S. And canada. China, with its 1. 3 billion people, is expected to become the biggest movie market in the world as early as next year. Hollywood has taken notice, partnering with chinese studios and making blockbusters as much for chinese audiences as american ones. But the u. S. Film industry is also facing competition from chinese moguls and movie stars with big ambitions. Tonight, a journey to a new hollywood, rising in the east. In the remote hills of eastern china, this is a Magic Kingdom that not even walt disney could have dreamed up. Its called hengdian world studios, and at over 7,000 acres, its the largest film lot on the planet. A palace for every dynasty, a village for every era, where some of the biggest movies in china have been filmed over the last two decades. These sets arent flimsy facades, but fullscale brick and mortar replicas of chinas imperial past. And when the films wrap, a brief silence. Before the sets are flooded by 15 million tourists who visit every year. Its all the domain of xu wenrong, a onetime farmer who realized his fields were Fertile Ground for a new industry. Permission is hardly ever granted to film in the real forbidden city, chinas iconic landmark, so he built his own. It took several hundred years to build the real forbidden city, and it took you five years to build this one. And you made the whole thing from cement . Xu got the idea for this place 20 years ago after a visit to hollywood. Movies werent big business in china back then, but he spent 1 billion gambling on their growth. Do you feel a bit like an emperor when you come here . No, youre just an ordinary guy. An ordinary guy whose empire hosts 30 different productions every day, as the film crews compete for space with tourists who crowd the sets straining to get a glimpse of the stars. When the cameras start rolling, movie magic. The movie business is booming across china. Shopping malls have popped up everywhere, and with them, theaters. 22 new movie screens open every day. Thats right, every day. In the last five years, Box Office Receipts have grown a staggering 350 . Its created a kind of a mass hysteria, and something chinas never seen before star culture. Li bing bing has been described as chinas angelina jolie. It feels as if the movie industry here in china is getting more and more like hollywood. Li bing bing the the speed of the development, you cant imagine, even for us. Williams its changing so quickly. Bing so quickly. You williams and bing even you dont even react, its already changed. Williams and transformed into a multibillion dollar industry. Chinese studios produce over 600 features a year action movies, science fiction, thrillers. Behind them is a group of pioneering movie moguls, like dennis wang. He once worked as a chinese food deliveryman in new york, and is now chairman of the huayi bros, one of the largest studios in the country. The movie business has made him a billionaire, a capitalist with chinese characteristics. Last year he spent 30 million on a picasso, which he keeps in his pocket and in one of his other homes. So thats the picasso. And you bought it from the goldwyn family, who owned the mgm studios in hollywood . So its not so much as a passing of the torch as a passing of the picasso. The biggest prize isnt picassos, but hollywood itself. This year, a Chinese Company purchased a Hollywood Studio for 3. 5 billion. Others have been investing in multimovie production deals with American Companies to make films for the global market. Youre going to use hollywood directors, hollywood stars dennis wang yes. Williams to make english language films to compete with hollywood . Dennis wang yes. Williams and make global blockbusters . Dennis wang translated yes. laughs . I think well be doing it in the next one or two years. Maybe in five years, well be doing it really well. Williams in five years, youll be competing with hollywood. Dennis wang i think we can do it. Williams even though chinas economy has slumped in the last year, dennis brother james, the huayi bros c. E. O. , says the movie business is recession proof. James wang translated when the economy is weak, the movie business does really well. When times are bad, people go to the movies and feel happy and it doesnt cost them much money. Williams so the bad times, actually could be good for the Film Industry . James wang in the last 20 years, the Biggest Box Office earners have come out when the economy is bad. Its interesting. Williams the sheer size of the Chinese Market has hollywood salivating, and desperate to get in on the action. Dede nickerson is an american Film Producer whos spent the last 20 years making movies in china. Dede nickerson today, if you sit in a green light meeting in a Hollywood Studio at any of the studios, at any of the major six studios, there china is part of every green light discussion. Williams theyre wondering, will chinese audiences nickerson well, they have to. Williams like this film . Nickerson they they have to because oftentimes the Chinese Box Office is larger than the u. S. Box office. Especially for the big blockbuster films. Whoever they are, there remains a price on my head. Williams blockbusters like transformers 4, which made 300 million in china, was partly filmed there and costars li bing bing. But the Chinese Government has a quota system, which only allows 34 foreign films into the country every year. To get around the rule, hollywood has been coproducing movies in china with local studios. Williams kung fu panda 3 was animated in california and shanghai at the same time, and i lost my father. I am so sorry. Coproduced by dreamworks and its spinoff, oriental dreamworks. C. E. O. James fong showed us how they were tailoring the movie for both audiences. James fong what weve done is actually we are reanimating everything around the mouth and the throat. So when you look at a chinese version of the movie, you no longer have a misalignment between the voices and the lip movement. Williams so in the chinese version, they look as if they are speaking in chinese. Fong thats correct. Williams whereas in the u. S. Version they look as if theyre speaking english. Has this ever been done before . Fong this has never been done before. Williams for years, the only movies anyone could watch in china were communist propaganda. Revolutionary heroes, patriotic peasants and guerilla soldiers. Those who strayed too far from the party line were thrown in jail, or worse. As a teenager, filmmaker chen kaige was pressured to denounce his own father, also a director, as an enemy of the state. Chen kaige i felt very, very guilty. Williams but you were forced to do that by the political situation in china. You were only 14 years old. Kaige no, i still feel guilty. Because i had a choice. I had a choice. Williams in the 90s, after things had loosened up, chen chose to make films that were critical of the regime, like farewell my concubine, which earned two Oscar Nominations and tells the story of Opera Singers who are persecuted by communist henchmen. That movie helped put chinese film on the map. But today, chen, one of chinas most venerated filmmakers, finds it hard to keep up. Williams its become big business . Kaige exactly. Williams Chinese People want kaige Chinese People williams to see popcorn movies . Want to see blockbusters kaige thats totally understandable. You know, they dont give a bleep . They just say, hey, were here to watch a movie. Williams theyre a generation thats grown up on chinas booming consumer culture, and on the surface their lifestyles look more and more like young peoples in the west. Prosperity has transformed china. Its no longer a closed communist country. But amidst all this modernity, the Chinese Government still censors films and decides which ones can be shown in theatres. We asked to speak with the government officials who oversee the Film Industry here, but they declined to be interviewed. Some things havent changed. Its not easy filming anything in china. Those were just private security guards. But when it comes making movies, the governments involved in almost every step of the process. From deciding which movies get made, to screening the final cut. Censors held up this World War Two epic, city of life and death, for the better part of a year because the film depicted soldiers from japan, chinas wartime enemy, in a flattering light. Lu chuan was its director. Lu chuan because some some newspaper does put me as a traitor of williams a traitor . laughs chuan yes, yes, yes. Williams because you dared to show a japanese soldier as a human being . Chuan yes. Yeah. Williams he wasnt certain his latest film, a monster movie chronicles of the ghostly tribe, would fare any better even though it has nothing to do with politics. Its very realistic looking. Its very frightening. Chuan thats my thats my goal. Williams three years ago, the government didnt allow monster movies. Today it does. Navigating the whims of the censors can be treacherous and confusing. Chuan they will determine the fate of your movie, you know . Williams and can you argue with them . Chuan you can talk. You can argue, yes. You williams does it work . Chuan sometimes. But you have to compromise. Williams hollywoods been compromising to please the censors too, cutting whole sections out of films before theyre released in china. Like scenes depicting chinese bad guys in men in black 3. You arrest me, thats a hate crime. It would be if you were chinese. Williams but dede nickerson, the chinabased american producer, thinks u. S. Studios are learning how to avoid that kind of meddling by the government. Nickerson youll see less and less of that because china is so important to hollywood that i would say that those decisions are going to get made when a film is being green lit to be careful about what may be offensive to Chinese People or to the chinese authorities. Because williams so they wont need to cut cut scenes. Nickerson they wont need to cut because williams they just wont make them in nickerson because williams the first place. Nickerson they wont make them in the first place. Williams selfcensorship is the cost of doing business in china, and a price u. S. Studios are willing to pay. But hollywoods biggest challenge isnt Chinese Government interference. Its competition from a young and dynamic industry. Nickerson they are smart. They understand storytelling. They are super wellversed in what works in their own country. They are super wellversed in what works globally. I couldnt be more excited. So i would say you know, hollywood, watch out. Holly williams recalls the moment her fascination with china began when she was an australian schoolgirl. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com, sponsored by prevnar 13. What if one piece of kale could protect you from diabetes . What if one situp could prevent Heart Disease . One. Wishful thinking, right . 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But when harvards swimmers hit the pool deck this past fall, schuyler had switched teams. Schuyler now swims with the men. The story of how harvard came to be the first Mens Division one Athletic Team in the nation to include an openly transgender young man is also the story of a bigger transformation. In attitudes, acceptance, and the larger conversation about what it means to be transgender. How different are you . If i had met you a couple of years ago and then saw you today . Schuyler bailar physically youd say yeah, you might not recognize me. laughs stahl you look that different . Schuyler bailar id say so. Yeah. Stahl wed say so too. This is what Schuyler Bailar looked like in high school. From the outside, schuyler back then appeared to be a young outstanding grades in school plus allamerican times in the pool. An attractive combination to swim coaches from topnotch colleges. Stephanie morawski she was a very strong breaststroker, and those times were fast. Stahl harvard womens coach Stephanie Morawski traveled to d. C. To recruit schuyler. First impressions . Morawski she was engaging, energetic and she was somebody that i really thought would do well at harvard. Stahl harvard was schuylers first choice. But this fairytale had a little wrinkle, one that may have started before schuyler even learned to swim. When you were a little girl, were you a typical little girl . Two, three four . Schuyler bailar definitely no. Stahl even three, four, five . Schuyler bailar my parents dressed me in pink dresses and bow ties, and i had a doll. But i dont think i was typical even then because i would i would like to rip them off and i didnt want to wear the dresses. Gregor bailar im not wearing a dress. laughs stahl gregor and terry bailar are schuylers parents. Did people think schuyler was a boy . Terry hong all the time. laughs stahl terry and gregor just assumed schuyler was a tomboy who preferred short hair and hanging out with the guys. That their daughter might be transgender never occurred to them, though there were clues. In middle school, schuylers class had to make selfportraits in the present and the future. She came home with this. It made no sense at the time why the future meant becoming an old man with a moustache. And the confusion only worsened when puberty hit, and things like breasts began to appear. Schuyler bailar i was like, thats not something i want. And i dont really know why, but i just know i dont want that. Stahl even though it felt wrong, schuyler saw no choice but to try and make it work as a girl with long hair and dresses. But it backfired. She developed major eating disorders. Stahl bulimia . Anorexia . Terry hong both. Stahl both . Gregor bailar it was serious. Terry hong we feared for his life. Gregor bailar yeah. Stahl they postponed schuylers going to harvard and got her help at an eating disorders program. When she went to hear some transgender men speak at a local church, wham. Everything started to make sense. Schuyler bailar i was like, holy crap, this is me. Like, this has this is 100 , everything that theyre saying, thats me. And i just melted down. I just started crying and sobbing. And my dad was picking me up because he was coming to visit me. Stahl that very day . Schuyler bailar yeah, and i walked out to him and i said and i was sobbing, i was like and he just hugged me. Gregor bailar he came out, you know, in tears crying Schuyler Bailar and eventually he said, d like, whats whats wrong, schuyler . And i said, dad, i think im transgender. Stahl so how did you handle it . Gregor bailar i hugged him. And he cried and cried. Schuyler bailar it just made me realize, like, i wanted that so badly but i knew how hard it was going to be. And i i was like, what about swimming . What about my body . What about surgery . What about the money . What about people . What are we going to say . What about my grandparents . What about my brother . Like, laughs everything at once. laughs i was like, but i want this, and i know i want this. Stahl schuylers Mental Health improved quickly. But there was still the matter of telling coach morawski that her new womens swimmer would now be coming to college, as a man. So what was your reaction . Morawski i was surprised. But the really, the big question schuyler had was, can i still swim on your team . Stahl what did you think . Did you think someone who identified as a man could swim on the womens team . Morawski i thought logistically we might have some issues that we would have to work out. Stahl like n. C. A. A. Rules. Turns out the ncdoublea has a policy that allows for athletes who identify as male but were born female to compete on a womens team, as long as they dont take male hormones. So Stephanie Morawski said yes, and schuyler started making plans to live something of a double life to be a man on harvards campus the next fall, but a woman on harvards swim team. Meanwhile, schuyler came out as transgender on facebook, and posted on instagram that he had socalled top surgery a double mastectomy to remove the breasts he hadnt wanted. The whole situation started to worry coach morawski. Terry hong i think stephanie was the first to realize that schuylers plan of being a woman in the water but a man outside was gonna be Gregor Bailar difficult at best. Terry hong totally detrimental laughter to her psyche. Morawski when you enroll in college, its an opportunity to start over again. Stahl you can reinvent yourself. Morawski you can reinvent yourself. And i was struggling watching schuyler, because he wanted to reinvent himself as schuyler as a male, but was being held back by the athletic piece of it. Stahl she discussed her concerns with her friend and colleague, harvard mens swim coach kevin tyrrell. Morawski kevin was just kind of looked at me and said, i dont i agree with you, i dont think that you can have a dual identity. Why doesnt he just swim for my team . Stahl just like that. Morawski just like that. Kevin tyrrell i mean, it made sense, right . If youre happy being a male and thats what you want to identify as, then it makes sense to be on the mens swimming team. Stahl that would be allowed under n. C. A. A rules and he would be permitted to take testosterone. But before giving schuyler the option of joining the team, tyrrell called a meeting of his swimmers to discuss what he thought would be a very sensitive issue. What were the reactions . Tyrrell they didnt see it as a big deal. I had worked up all of these questions in my mind to ask them, and i asked them, and they were like that sounds fine. laughs stahl when they didnt even express concern about the locker room, tyrrell wasnt sure he believed them. Tyrrell so i concluded, well guys, you know, lets come into my office, you know, if you want to talk to me one on one, please do. Stahl you thought some might be holding back . Tyrrell right. Just because of group think and and then so, no one came into the office. Stahl and it surprised you . Tyrrell it did surprise me. You know, i swam in college over 20 years ago, and i think it would have been a different process for me. Stahl but choosing between the womens and mens teams was agonizing for schuyler, who was used to winning as a woman. On the mens team, he would be at the back of the pack. Morawski schuyler had to do a lot of thinking about what mattered most. Was it breaking records, or was it really being happy . Stahl you put that to him. Morawski i did. Stahl that was last spring. For harvard in lane two, Schuyler Bailar. Stahl this fall, at harvards meet against ivy league rival columbia, we watched as schuyler got ready scars visible across his chest to step up onto the starting block to swim with the men, as a man. Schuyler bailar my goal to myself, because its not realistic for me to win anything right now, at all, laughs is to try to beat at least one person in every race. laughs stahl and have you met that goal so far . Schuyler bailar almost. Yesterday, i did get last in my second event. But but thats the only one. And ive done eight races. So, seven out of eight of them laughs ive gotten not last. Stahl thats i im really surprised. Schuyler bailar im really happy about it. Stahl and hes happy about living as a man in all facets of his life. He takes the n. C. A. A. Approved dosage of testosterone which has been lowering his voice, broadening his shoulders, and bringing him closer to that future he had envisioned back in middle school. You have a little mustache . Schuyler bailar yes, i have a little mustache, little peach fuzz. laughter stahl are you shaving . Schuyler bailar yes. And i shaved because i wanted to look nice for the interview. laughs stahl schuyler has been remarkably open about all this, chroniclng the whole process of his transition on social media, complete with before and after images. And hes invited people to ask when they have questions. Stahl you are almost passionate about answering questions. Schuyler bailar yes. Stahl you dont run away from this. Schuyler bailar people are ignorant. Period. Because its not taught in school. Like if you dont know a lot of trans people, how are you supposed to know the answers to the questions about people who are transgender . Stahl what kind of questions do you get . Schuyler bailar do you still have a vagina . laughs like, people like to ask that one. And a lot of people get really uncomfortable, like a lot of trans people hate that question. Stahl you dont hate that question . Schuyler bailar i dont like it, but i try to see it from their perspective. And im like, okay, if they if, like if i were in their po like, their position, i would probably be wondering the same thing. Stahl well, whats the answer to the question . Schuyler bailar yes. I mean, thats the answer to the question. Stahl thats the answer Schuyler Bailar its, like stahl to the question. Schuyler bailar its a simple question. Stahl he says being transgender has nothing to do with whether or not someone gets bottom surgery, and it also has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Schuyler has always been attracted to girls; in high school, as a young woman, schuyler had come out as gay; now, as a man, hes straight. But there is one small matter we discovered, where hes leaving his options open. You will never get pregnant. Schuyler bailar i dont know about that. Thats a long story. laughter stahl really . Schuyler bailar i i there are, there are trans men that get pregnant because they want to have biological children. Stahl so this is in your head, that one day you might give birth . Schuyler bailar might is is in bold and underlined and italicked. But yes. Yeah. I dont know. Im 19. Stahl 19 and healthy. Back at that harvardcolumbia meet we went to pull, schuyler, pull stahl schuyler achieved his goal of beating one swimmer and he beat his own previous best time by more than a second. But we did notice schuyler during the womens competition, cheering on his wouldhavebeen teammates in his old event. And we were pretty sure he noticed that his old times would have won first place. Have you ever in the whole time secondguessed what you did . Schuyler bailar i think i would be lying if i said no. Stahl so you have. Schuyler bailar i know i made the right decision. But i think sometimes i, like im like, oh, i really wish i could i could compete as a girl. Because i want to win that race. Its fun to win, and its something that i worked really hard for. And, you know, i i work the same amount. But but now im im working the same amount for 16th place, you know . Stahl and thats okay . Schuyler bailar and thats okay. Its the way it is. And its also a lot of fun. It has other kinds of glory in it. Stahl different kind of glory. Schuyler bailar definitely a different kind. Its a glory that, like, fills me inside. Stahl compared to one year ago, how are you feeling . Schuyler bailar proud. In one word, proud. This cbs sports update is brought to you by ford. At the 80th playing of the masters tournament, englishman Danny Willett with a stunning second nine comeback to overtake american jordan spieth, ending spieths bid for backtoback green jackets. Willett shot a finalround 67 to win by three over spieth and lee westwood. For more sports news and information, go to cbssports. Com. Information, go to cbssports. Com. This is jim nantz reporting from the masters in augusta. Explorers terrain Management System easily handles changing road conditions. 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