Transcripts For KPHO Face The Nation 20160918

Pneumonia, clinton has seen her lead over donald trump collapse. Well talk to Hillary Clintons running mate tim kaine. Plus donald trump has dropped his fiveyear campaign to prove the president is not an american. Well hear from his Campaign Manager Kellyanne Conway and the head of the Republican Party, reince priebus. And finally, a special visit with civil rights legend john lewis at the new African American museum. Its all coming up on face the nation. Face the nation. Im john dickerson. We begin with that explosion in new york city. It happened last night at around 8 30 at 23rd street and 6th avenue in manhattans chelsea neighborhood. Cbs news correspondent anna werner is there. Reporter well, streets are still closed off here in chelsea, john, as authorities continue to try to determine who caused an explosion here and planted another device four blocks north. Surveillance video showed the white flash of the explosion as night sent people running. I heard boom. I thought it might be officials, but it was so loud and it just went through my whole body. Reporter units from the police and f. B. I. Were quick to respond, cordoning off streets in the area and searching for evidence. About two Hours Later Police found a device in another location four blocks north. It was described as a pressure cooker. That street too was blocked off and Police Brought in a bomb disposal truck to remove the device. This morning tells cbs news that terrorism has not, in fact, been ruled out, and they are also continuing to explore whether there are any potential links between the incidents that happen here and the pipe bomb explosion at a charity race event yesterday in new jersey. John . Dickerson anna werner in new york. Thanks, anna. We go now to new york congressman peter king, who sits on both the house intelligence and Homeland Security committees. Said there are no links to international terrorism. Do you think thats the case . We dont know. In fact, in many of these cases we dont know until two, three or four days later whether or not there is a terrorist link. Whether or not its connected overseas. Whether or not its homegrown. The fact there is no evidence right now doesnt mean much. We have the times square bombing back in new york in 2011 i guess it was, and there was no. It took several days before we realized that was coming out the taliban and pakistan. The Boston Marathon we didnt know for several days if that was terrorism. So i think we have to assume that terrorism is always a real possibility and go from there. Whether it turns out to be or not, we dont know, but i certainly would in the think of ruling out terrorism at this stage. Dickerson whats the best way to react for the public and Law Enforcement officials in incidents like this . We now are so connected that the minute something happens, theres a kind of a rush to name another. Whats the proper way to respond to these . To let the nypd and the f. B. I. Handle it. They are the best in the world at what they do. And also to realize that as we go forward, terrorism and these type of attacks, whether theyre coming from overseas or whether theyre homegrown or whether theyre just mall content, we are always vulnerable to these type of attacks. Thats why its so important we have to have surveillance and we have to monitor so we can tell when these are going to happen. Sometimes once things are over we, we put it in the recesses of our mind. These threats are real. Theyre going to continue. Whether or not this turns out to be overseas terrorism. Whether its domestic terrorism or any terrorism at all, its a wakeup call, another one, as to how vulnerable we are. Thats why its so important for the police and f. B. I. To be given the tools and be allowed to do what they have to do. On top of this issue since 9 11, what more can be done . Is it just these kinds of things are going to happen, theyre part of the new normal . I dont think we should accept this as part of the new normal. Go to the larger issue. Thats why the n. S. A. Is important. Thats why surveillance of communities where these threats are coming from is important. Why we cant allow overconcern about Civil Liberties to get in the way of Law Enforcement. Lets not let Political Correctness stop the police and the f. B. I. From doing the investigations that they have to do. I used the example many time, if youre going after the mafia, you go to the italian community, irish communities, right now islamic terrorism, go to the muslim communities. You dont look for the ku klux klan in harlem. Dickerson congressman pete king, thanks so much for being with us. We appreciate it. Thank you. Dickerson turning now to campaign 2016, our cbs news Battleground Tracker shows this morning that in the 13 states we candidates are now tied 42 to 42 , which is consistent with the latest national survey. So what can Hillary Clinton do to regain her lost momentum . We now go to richmond and to her running mate, senator tim kaine. Senator, i want the start with the explosion in new york overnight. In moments like this we look to the president ial candidates for some kind of response, but what can a president do if a lone wolf is going to put an explosive device in a theres really not a president ial question there, is there . Well, john, look, you have to understand that Law Enforcement plays a critical role, First Responders, too. Hillary understands this. She was a senator from new york after the attack on 9 11 and worked to make sure First Responders got Hillary Clinton benefits. But the other thing is we always have to watch about these lone wolf attacks. Were in a battle right now to defeat isis and to defeat al qaeda. Their space on the battlefield is shrinking. Our military is working to that their space, but sadly they are trying to strike out in other place, whether its cities in europe or africa or the United States. The way you stop those attacks, we dont know the motive behind these attacks yet, but were digging into it, but the way you stop lone wolf attacks is through smart sharing of intelligence. You have to have strong alliance, for example, with nato allies, and share intelligence about people, people who might be traveling the next. And Hillary Clinton is somebody who has been our nations chief diplomat, understands the power of these alliances and would never do Something Like tear up nato or get rid of the alliances in the way that donald trump to to proposes. Obviously, this was a horrible explosion in new york. The size of it was massive, and at least, thank goodness, were thinking of those injured, but thank goodness there are no can be thankful for. Dickerson on this question of National Security and commanderinchief, secretary robert gates wrote a pete in the wall street journal critical of both candidates, but about Hillary Clinton he said, mrs. Clinton has time before the election to address forthrightly her trust worthiness, which he put at the center of her ability to be commanderinchief. How does she fix the trust worthiness problem . You know, youre right, secretary gates wrote that editorial. He said, i need to see more from Hillary Clinton, but ive seen enough from donald trump. Hes not q president. Let me jump right to your question, john, about trustworthiness. I have a boy who is a marine infantry officer. Hes one of the two million young men and women who serve in the United States military. Hes deployed now for the second time. I would trust Hillary Clinton with matts life, with my sons life. The reason i would is because shes had that searing experience of being at the World Trade Center as they were searching for survivor, because state, because she was part of a National Security team that revived the hunt and wiped Osama Bin Laden off the face of the earth. I would trust her with my sons life. On the other side, with donald trump, heres a guy who praises dictators like vladimir putin. Heres a gay who thinks a solution to Global Security is for more nations to get nuclear weapons. But most painfully to me and other military families, here is a guy who says the American Military is a disaster, makes fun of john mccain because he was a prisoner of war and says that means hes not a hero. And he went after the virginia family, the khan family who live in charlottesville, and went after them mercilessly after they very painfully described how it was to lose their son serving in the military who was killed trying to protect his fellow service members. Donald trump as commanderinchief scares me to death. Dickerson so, senator, if donald trump is democratically a marine, you wouldnt trust his life under that commanderinchief . I wouldnt. Dickerson would you tell him to get out of the military, senator . My son is a very independent guy and hes going to make his own determination, and my other two children are equally independent, but donald trump has demonstrated by his trashing the military, by his belief that we need more nuke, but especially by his praise of dictators, even encouraging the russians to commit Cyber Espionage against the United States, s he shouldnt be within ten time zones of being commanderinchief. Dickerson let me ask you on this question of trustworthiness, oftentimes president s bring in a Vice President who helps them with their weak spots. George w. Bush did that with dick cheney, barack obama did that with joe biden, senator joe biden, the idea they didnt have enough experience, so they brought in an experienced hand. A lot of Hillary Clintons supporters and friends say her blind spot is this question of transparency and trust. Do you see your job as helping out on that . Youre the new guy on the team. Your role . John, ill tell you why hillary asked me to be on the ticket. She was pretty plain about it. She said that the test of a Clinton Administration is not going to be a bill signing or a passage of something. Its going to be whether a worker can get more skills, an employer can hire more people, a classroom is a better learning environment for a kid or for a teacher. Fundamentally she wants a governing partner for our positive agenda, and, john, weve laid out a positive weve put out a book called stronger together that reflects our vision for this country in this race. Donald trump wrote a book when he decided to run for president , and the title of his book is, crippled america. This is the case were making over the next 50plus days that this is fundamentally an election about a choice of vision. If you see our country as stronger together, were the ticket, and weve got the policies to carry that forward. And you see it as a crippled america, then thats what donald trump believes. But i tell you, i dont see that in the optimistic, cando, upbeat spirit of the American Public that i meet on the trail. Dickerson senator kaine, were out of time. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks, john. Christa turning now to the republican side, Donald Trumps Campaign Manager Kellyanne Conway joins us now from trump tower in new york. Good morning, kellyanne. I want to start with a piece that defense secretary robert gates, former defenseec wrote in the wall street journal. He was critical of both candidates, but particularly critical of mr. Trump, and i want to play mr. Trumps reaction to it last night and get your reaction. We had a clown today, an absolute clown, robert gates. Hes supposed to be an expert. Hes been there forever. So he goes out and he says negative things about me. I never met him. I never talked to him. Believe me, i am so much better at what hes doing than he is. President s, most of them republicans, one democrat. A clown . So mr. Gates, secretary gates really should have i think in his book been a little bit more forceful about the fact that radical islam has ideological moorings. He acts like terrorism is Something Like the weather, it just happen, and we as americans know thats not true, and i think thats part of why mr. Trump is doing very well on the issue of who radical islamists. Hillary clinton referred to terrorists as our enemy. Theres a great deal of frustration by Many Americans than we dont have serious leaders all of the time addressing terrorism for what it is. Dickerson but one of the critiques that secretary gates, who has seen and worked with a few president s made, is donald trump is thinskinned, he doesnt have the temperament for the office. Wasnt he in, in response to mr. Gates proving mr. Gates mr. Trump has the right to do that. Hes attacked by people who have never met him, who havent given a thawingful look to his plan, which, of course, are out there for everyone to see. Hes on the stump every single day delivering policy speeches, addressing crowds, rallies, and Bernie Sanders had an event yesterday in ohio for Hillary Clinton. There were 150 people there. Thats like a second reading where i come from. Mr. Trump has a right to defend himself from people who think are looking at the substance of his plans. Theyre just judging someone theyve never met. Dickerson id like to move on to a position that mr. Trump held for five years that barack obama was not born in the United States. He changed that position on friday. Why . Well, he made very clear three things. Number one, that it was mark penn, Hillary Clintons chief strategist and pollster who put president obamas citizenship in memo in march of 2007 questioning his american roots, saying in a time of war how could we elect someone like this. Thats pretty radical stuff. Of course, even patty doyle, Hillary Clintons Campaign Manager in 2008 until she was fired by Hillary Clinton, admitted on friday to wolf blitzer that she said, yeah, these are her words, there was a volunteer in iowa who was pushing this. So this started with Hillary Clintons campaign, number one. Number the work it was trump who put the issue to rest when he got president obama to release his birth certificate years later. And number three, he said that president obama was born in this country, period, and lets move on to creating jobs, defeating radical islam, rebuilding our inner cities. Dickerson the reason i want to stick on this a little bit is he promoted this for five years. So this isnt some passing notion. This is a considerable amount of energy and time and money that say anything about his citizenship. Also, if you look at the clinton campaign, they fired the one staffer who sent an email about this immediately. Donald trump spent five years, his own money, called press conferences to promote this idea. So i go back to my original question, why did he change his mind and when did he do it . Well, donald trump was not running for president in a bruising, vicious primary against barack obama. Hillary clinton was. And you know that the former newspaper, a respected journalist, just on friday, john, said that he was approached, he had a meeting with Sidney Blumenthal, a very close confidante of both clintons and was on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation thereafter, he had a meeting with him where Sidney Blumenthal allegedly told him that president obama was not born in this country and check it out. The idea that people around Hillary Clinton were not responsible for this, donald trump in 2007 and 2008, while theory, hes a successful building man. He was building things. Dickerson but kellyanne, hes asked us to go back and look at things he said about Foreign Policy back in 2003, to draw conclusions about his judgment. So things he said in the private sector, something he spent five years promoting, you said he got the birth certificate released and that put an end to it, but it didnt put an end to it for him. For years after the birth certificate was released, he continued to question it, continued to question whether barack obama was born in the United States and whether the so when the campaign puts out a statement and says he ended in 2011, thats just not the truth isnt it . No, i didnt say that. What im saying is it was president obama who released his birth certificate in 2001. No one accuses Hillary Clinton with mariano rivera. Shes not a good closer. Associates of Hillary Clinton started pushing the issue because barack obama came out of nowhere. In the polls let alone beat her in the democratic primary where a vast majority of voters were female and rejected her in that year, just like they didnt see Bernie Sanders coming and like they didnt see our comeback of the campaign coming. Shes not known to be a closer. Shes not known to be good at recapturing momentum. So i understand you want to talk about Hillary Clinton and this is an election about a choice, but its also about whether people can trust a candidate who may become president one day and who may send people to die in a war. So just on this question of trust, donald trump advocated something for five years that was a lie. Why did he do that . Well, youre going to have to ask him, but again, i think this is a side show now. The media seem obsessed with this john, respectfully. Again, he put everything out on the table on friday. Those are his words. He does things on his term, on his time line, and regot to the microphone after honoring 14 after showing all these veterans that supported us our campaign, we were very proud to stand with them in washington, d. C. And he said the three things you and i just repeated. But what this campaign also did this week that nobody seems to want to talk about, we tightened the polls, we have a childcare plan, economic plan. He was standing yesterday with parents of victims of illegal alien crimes who have murdered their children. You know, there are so many things going on in our campaign, and thats his entire point. Matter to america. Dickerson i understand, but he did spend five years on it, so it would be something. We would be remiss if we didnt pay some attention to something he spent so many years advocating and promoting. Kellyanne conway, thank you so much for being with us. Dickerson and were back with the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus. Mr. Chairman, on friday donald trump said he no longer believed states. For five years, though, he spent a lot of time on this issue, and he now says hes the one out there trying to put this rumor to rest. Do you believe thats what he was doing for five years . I think it was something that got started in the 2008 president ial campaign, whose fault it was, you know. Hillary clinton herself, her supporters, her intern, her staffers, clearly it was something that was circulating in 2008. Im agreeing with you that he took it into the public debate even more so than what was brought in, in 2008. However, the point is people are asking him about it. People werent asking him about it for a long time. And he came out and said, listen, i was involved in trying to figure this out, as well, and ive determined that the president was born in hawaii, just like ive said for years some this is not for me a mystery. Dickerson so there is also no evidence that Hillary Clinton there are rumors that people on her staff and one person was caught spreading rumors about barack obama, and people. And people get convicted every single day with circumstantial evidence that is enough to tip the scale. And by the preponderance of the evidence before us, Hillary Clinton or her campaign were definitely involved in this issue. So we cant keep saying its not true. Thats ridiculous. I know you didnt, but theres enough media people out there claimingha its some fiction. Its not fiction. Its the truth. Dickerson but when you think about. It may be contributory, but donald trump spent the bulk of his time. Hes not denying it. I understand that. But she is denying it, and thats ridiculous. Dickerson well, her former Campaign Manager. Everyone around her is involved but not her. Dickerson well, everyone around her is a little more than the evidence suggesting. Her Campaign Deputy manager was apologizing on cnn three days ago. Dickerson she said she it up immediately. Theres a difference between firing someone immediately. What about Sidney Blumenthal. Was hi involved or not . So you have a person spreading rumors and you have a Person Holding a fiveyear crusade. Heres my question to you, which is not to figure out the details anymore, but to ask you this question donald trump said republicans love this idea in 2011 when he talked about it and congratulated himself for reinvigorating the investigation of it. The question is did the nominee of the Republican Party use issue as a political issue to rile up republicans . Is this the kind of thing that gets republicans excited, the question of whether the president was born in america . That was his assertion. Thats not my opinion. I dont think donald trump was thinking about 2016 in 2011. It was an issue he was interested in. It was an issue that i believe and i think the preponderance of the evidence shows Hillary Clinton started it. And after getting this issue president was worn in america, just like i have as chairman of the Republican Party. I never believed that he wasnt born in the United States of america. Dickerson well have to hold it right there. Well take a commercial break and well be right back. It was an idea. An inspiration. A wild whatif. So scientists went to work. Breakthroughs, 4,423 sleepless nights, and countless trips back to the drawing board. At first they were told no, well. Maybe, and finally yes. Then it was 36 clinical trials, 8,500 patient volunteers, someone who couldnt be cured, could be. Me. . New bikes arent selling guys. What are we gonna do . How about we pump more into promotions . . Nah. What else . What if we hire more sales reps . . Nah. What else . What if we digitize the whole supply chain . So people can customize their bike before they buy it. 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