8 year conflict which has killed over $400000.00 people British Prime Minister Boris Johnson says a huge effort is underway to bring home British tourists and passengers stranded by the sudden financial collapse of travel company Thomas Cook Johnson said that steps needed to be taken so quote you don't end up with a situation where the taxpayer where the state is having to step in and bring people home roughly 150000 vacationing British tourists who booked their holidays through Thomas Cook were left stranded at worldwide destinations when their travel company suddenly went under Johnson said tour companies must properly insure themselves against this kind of eventuality federal authorities said today they arrested a u.s. Army soldier who they accused of discussing with an f.b.i. Informant a possible bomb attack within the United States as well as the targeting of the left leaning activist and a media organization Jarrett William Smith as a private 1st class infantry soldier from South Carolina stationed at Fort Riley Kansas he was arrested Saturday and later charged with one count of sharing bomb making instructions online during his 1st court appearance today the magistrate ordered that he remain in custody pending a detention hearing on Thursday court papers say Smith also suggested targeting a major news network with a car bomb the news network was not identified That's it for news headlines this hour I'm Max Pringle Stay tuned for more news a later today with the hour long edition of the Pacific evening news at 6 hard knock radio is next. Hard not radio hanging out with you this afternoon and. Yeah you just heard the trailer so me all seen the movie some we all recognize it we're talking about the last black man and San Francisco and we're talking with some of the folks that's involved with that man gonna end of building. Welcome to the to the show and leisure to be here pleasure to be here so O'Loghlin San Francisco the Bay Area is on fire you know we have the International Film Festival we talked to Dave Roach and then the other day we're talking to you guys who made a lot of fanfare went to last black man and San Francisco Let's talk about how that came about in are you surprised that. The type of traction that movie has gained I would say I'm shocked by it because initially when it came together I know myself as a cast member I didn't have any expectations I thought a movie about San Francisco would be dull I thought a movie sharing things are going socially in the Bay Area would be iconic for us but I didn't know internationally and nationally people receive it the way they've been receiving. A lot of films that a set in San Francisco but Dana a whole lot of films that focus on black people in San Francisco talk a little bit about that I mean for me what what I think about is James Baldwin who people of kind of rediscovered over the last few years and it going back and looking at the documentary that he did when he was in Hunter's Point you know and you know that was like a landmark type of thing and people are you know watching that as if it's brand new but we haven't seen a whole lot of. Films come out you know maybe 48 hours might have been the closest thing whatever you Murphy I don't know if we can say that's a black or the black man that started but but you know I don't think you know you tell me going to if films have really captured the essence of what you all feel as black folks in a city known when you look at it this is a movie also based on Jimmy failed his life so it's a semi biopic I believe if that's the right terminology and then you look at. The writer they came together and they were able to not only. Not only display black life on on on a big screen but they were able to break down the multi dimensions of us I've never seen a movie in San Francisco or in for that matter in the Bay Area created around black me and masculinity different. Different. Facades sort of speak and so when I watch this I get to see the grandfather I get to see the father the mean the comradery but we're not being stereotyped we're not being sexualized we're not participating in acts of violence nothing wrong with that because oftentimes in an inner city that's what's going on but this movie within itself is a piece of art to show in humanized Black mean black life in San Francisco and global let me ask you this going to you know. That complexity of showing the different dimensions of black people. In a film like last black man in San Francisco. Some people be like well you know that's not really the hood or you know or is that really true people may question at the way that I seen them question when Spike Lee did a movie and there were no drug dealers then. Or even Bill Cosby when he was still in favor with everybody there was like that really be true did you get any. That and I only because so many people have now invested. In even people in the community Sadly when you show this complexity blackness you know and black man in particular. I question how realistic is the last black man in San Francisco real you know did you get any of that or hear any of that. I remember doing it. And I had no. Imagine. Why people. Would be a fair representation of them when you look at. The media when it comes to black mean it is just people forget Dr King was a black man people forget Malcolm x. Was a black man people President Obama is a black man meaning all of us are not we are multi dimensional when you look at. When you look at. Me and. He wants to push in to a very very small category and minimize our greatness. When I received. In part of it not being real not being real to who demographic are you coming from what class are you coming from do you think that poverty do you think that living in war torn environment. That's not the truth let me ask you this. Is it. Gonna from the movie. Let me ask you this. Some might make the argument. Because. Black people and black men are under attack. Because stereotypes is a profitable business that's connected with other industries prison industrial complex all that other stuff when you get in front of the camera when you get on the mike right when you get to these places you have a responsibility to fight to fight for fights a battle you know fight the fight for freedom how do you respond to that because that may be a pressure for example you know in me the friendship between Tony and the other guy's name is Jimmy and Jimmy and Joe in the movie it's Jimmy and mine Jimmy a much right so there are some people like me and we can't afford to have that version of blackmail. You know be shown you know it needs to be definitive it means to be a need to hold up a certain type of politic a certain type of line we can't have the you know be fluid like that that was one critique that you get people to add others may say well man if you're a San Francisco your laughter come with you know a very clear critique of the mayor and the police and all that so I guess what I'm getting at is did you pressure put on from the larger black community that's hungry for representation and feels under siege I would say. It's the 1st movie to be. About blackness that nobody even initially nobody even really knew what was going on when we were filming it was a huge film crew production post release there are people who want more stories told and one thing about the movie is it is here to motivate inspire new movies it is here to tell a person hey it can be done but to go back on a question. I believe that. It was a question. And a representation I challenge any and everybody to go out there and express themselves which you want to be seen can be so. What we have to do this is not it and all this is not. Ever going to be shot just here is that so many people feel like it is Ok and it feels like every time we do something black folks people act like it's the be all end all you know I know he's going to show. You know but but I mean but that's a very real thing but it also speaks to the urgency of the moment you know like you know like if I go on t.v. And I wear a hoodie and gold Funch right some people may say man I'm glad you represented us because that's who we are and others be like how did you go on it with a hoodie and go frontal on t.v. Because now you're going to set us back so you have 2 competing type of virtue. Of the concerns that people want to have. The desperation is a slave mentality the slave mentality believes that everything is in limitation Everything is if you do what i can we have to think in abundance and we have to understand that we are created in the image of the most high and everything is actually the opposite of limitation is in abundance when you see other people create movies when you go to a concert when you go to a country when you go to the beautiful continent of Africa and you see all the movies being created and look at cinema over the last 100 years the United States of America you don't see white directors. Actors saying this is the last movie because it's not I feel like us as a people we have to understand that we can make more movies we can have more representation we can have more dialogue because it all goes back to the Di and it all goes back to the complexity of who we are tell your story in order to give my. In order to keep it real so this is another thing to go back to question before you see it when I get up there how do I feel about representing and being truthful transparency is a strong point for me I want to thank Joe and I want to thank Jimmy because all that he's q. And A's that we've done there's been no prep it's going to. Cut it speak in our truth and because of them the truth that they spoke we've been allowed the platform to speak our truth and our truth is again my truth is being fully honest about the conditions where you are in the complexities that we this is also why we're fighting to get to London next month for the British Let me just take a detour for a 2nd we're talking with gunner from the movie last black man in San Francisco and I'm New know we have a great conversation so we can just build and this is just the tip of it because inside. You know we were talking with Dave Roach. Oakland International Film Festival but we walked in and then you all were there and there's a whole bunch of filmmakers in and in places in the cafe and is just amazing to see all these folks who don't know each other you know all in one spot or work it you know like we're going on a script rather what do you do if you know so it just goes to show that I think you know what's good thing is that people are now. Taking that Bay Area. Doofus self to the next level like I will write a script I will do my movie I will I will put on a festival to show the movie you know saw Michael orange here you know you know with his festival so everybody is kind of doing. A good thing and you all are obviously a part of that with the last black man in San Francisco part of the reason why we have you on is to fall because you all are trying to do this to the next level so let's talk a little bit about that before we get into the conversation you all are trying to get the film to London now have you all been around the world or what's happening. He was fun actually. It was extremely successful. Right now the British film Film Festival is in London. And other cast members. Due diligence to get there along with the director just so that we can represent. The same way we were able to do at the Sundance Film Festival the same way that we were able to do. Internationally. And of course we appreciate. But we want to continue to push because with a unique movie like this we have to be. Going on to make sure that this is not the last to make sure that the story is. Told to display. In Europe to display that blackness all over. Give the information where people if they want to help to make sure. To give it give it you can go to. Go Fund Me dot com. Mean. You. Go to what part did you play in the movie. Or. You know very real compelling stories easily the movies of their own Jamal true. You know. One in and it seems like everybody who they show no one else you know if you ever see the movie. These scenes these day come back to show you on the corner. Of San Francisco and you know a lot of people like. San Francisco and you know so let's talk a little bit about them so you have the Greek chorus will be referred so it's myself is demolished who was wrongfully convicted and sentenced to 50 years to life in prison he was released after I believe 5 years or maybe even 7 he sued the city he won he's doing a lot of he's also an artist but he's doing a lot of social work he's being active in a community in combat mass incarceration and people want. People who are wrongfully convicted you got another man he's a d.j. His name is Jay right now he's doing he's staying. All over the city all over the Bay Area doing prestigious events doing hip hop events he's a great deejay you got this young man by the name of. He's an artist to his music going crazy a lot of traction and a lot of momentum that he's gaining. We call them we are told his milk he's an artist he's doing his thing you've got the preacher Willie who was an icon in the city of San Francisco as far as hip hop he's icon in the Bay Area so us collectively together we make up the course myself. I got the more you're going to no no they didn't change the name and nothing you didn't come up to say now you know what. Call me Aegis you know you didn't you didn't put a you know just call me just last name Elbel you don't want that and it's like you know what it was with me I make music so I go buy a gun and there's somebody who actually became extremely successful he's out there an l.n. a Saw at the goes global so on social media I go by going to go global but in the movie they referred to me as gun. The reason the reason I was chosen is because one of the mean. I say so he said he had a reference if you want to make a movie we need to have gun in it so he reached out to me I've been ousted him I've been in plays as a child because my mother and father they made a city college they're actually actors and actresses you know so when I reached out somebody so you had your chops already almost you could say my mother you know she was the static about my father of of me playing myself in the movie and me even getting a role as an artist all of us in the Greek chorus music or part of music and that's why I was so authentic on the corner because we actually come from the point Sunny deal like we come from poverty not. Backgrounds in our neighborhood so that's why the language was so authentic is because we were able to say hey this is how we talk and so we don't. You know oh my. Did you learn anything about acting because you did have some veterans on a set you had Danny Glover obviously you have my collapse right you know the day that they put you to decide or do you people something to say Ok let me add this to the repertoire in your presentation I was say it was an observation when I seen Danny Glover we were doing a scene in the attic and to be honest when you get around somebody legendary like my mother played played a movie I don't know how many times so with Danny was more observational anything to seen Arnold just watching her humility I got to see you know than there are of her humility was it was 2nd to none Mike Epps is down and it was my brother who's one of the most successful actors right now on Netflix. Series this stuff is doing a phenomenal job. The brother was sitting next to me who actually plays Jimmy's father. Here anyway he's a phenomenal do what I'm going to get to before I apologize. Follow monogram in what I learned. From these people is respect reiterate double down or respect down or humility because never once did they told their act allayed their names or their success around they came to cheat is like family and is one of the most humbling experiences in my life outside of like meat mag prior to him being its parts his untimely death but you know at the same time some of them might be some kind of game from you all like all of this is half caste and a point catch on the hood really yeah you know the slaying the swag style of dress the whole mannerisms them you know all those types of things right do you feel that because sometimes I mean that's what actors do they they look and be like Ok I will do this role and I will be kind of from the point you know and then the next thing you know they went and I ask you know and you see yourself oh so with that let me see the interaction all of our scenes were pretty isolated we shot them separate but I can say. If you see any influence for myself or any of the Greek course let me know man I just want to be here be of all the next movie you know I'm saying or series or show for sure you know lives in the name of the do you remember now he's like Yeah no you read the moment more of your man Big shout out to you that was one of the most humbling experiences the man next to me told me about his life gave me life. I would say advice on life and we just chopped it up the whole day and we are an addict I'm very proud of him I'm very proud of his chance parents and his ability to speak up issues you just things that are incorrect and just watching him grow as a person I wish none but the best for him but that was the person that I had the most interaction with that was already solidified as an actor. Do you know let me ask you this gonna. Last black man in San Francisco with some. Why isn't the city and the county of San Francisco not stepping in and saying you know what great job just make sure you go out there and you all in London and I'm asking to see and I got folks coming from all over the world who are setting up shop getting nice deals tax breaks all sorts of things you know to relocate here and it just seems like you know the story that you're talking about is very similar to the story that we're seeing and when we have the folks you know tent city who we've interviewed right there doing a thing shining a light on the city. And we can get all this homegrown talent and everybody will brag about them when you know like oh yeah you know we're the home of hieroglyphics but did you help them out on their high road day oh yeah we know these filmmakers but did you help them out to make sure I got to the next level what is it about this disconnect or at least perceived disconnect that maybe it's not for you all but I see that a lot in the bay so much homegrown talent not fully appreciate it while it's you know. I live all around the world I want to start with my city and county of San Francisco and. Start writing the beginning from the neighborhoods to I would say to legislators. To the citizens and of course to mayor in America office. We can change we can do better we can support before I would say the nation gets ahold source I would challenge everybody from the city and county of San Francisco to not only watch the movie but give a critique of it and share the same way that people in l.a. Love l.a. It's support in Parade l.a. The same way people do it in Atlanta the same way they do it a Philadelphia the same way they do it in New York the same way they do what it used to so now let me talk bigger and. The Bay Area is the home of independence so oftentimes I feel that we feel that by one person it's going to be real or it's going to hold us back is not the truth I stand to what I'm about to say we're the most talented region on the planet are. We are th. Point in time in the immediate future we have to understand that it is strength in numbers it is strength and shedding light on each other in doing phenomenal business together it is strength in communicating with each other as far as the people getting tax breaks going to call them out Facebook Twitter Twitter Instagram. Companies My problem is not with you my problem is with the lack of communication and the lack of reaching out but let's take these tech companies member when Twitter with. House right there south the market and I remember you know we did some of those 1st stories when they came there and they promise like they were like oh it's going to be good for the community they're going to have thousands of workers and they're going to you know their money is going to help stimulate the neighborhoods around the because there's a lot of restaurants you know. Places right but what did they do they. You know had their food catered or whatever inside so you didn't have that traffic then it was like oh people going to get free wife and you know and I remember people were protesting because they never came in here thinking like what the tax breaks and all that at the very least you know they have $1000000.00 event here they would be the ones to be like you know what we're part of this community you know let me let me make sure that we uplift you know what I'm saying I mean but are you a part of the community or are you just house here and see yourself as international that's just me talking you know about what I've observed with some of these places you know that. Boy they saved a lot of money. To get to where we going in I believe one of the top 5 on earth is a is a shame but we're doing it anyway companies it's about reaching now and creating a meaningful relationships it's not about given a handout it's about creating opportunity and. Underprivileged and overlooked communities it's about knowing the difference between it being genuine and then a door for show what they don't know or what these tech companies don't know is once you put Bay Area culture culture together it evolves it becomes. Takes on a whole new. Level of power. I don't really understand why they don't have people grass roots in the communities for Richmond. San Francisco e.p.a. . Reach me I think. These tech companies need to really do Gini when outreach you can contact me we can get involved we can make a change because we have a lot of people here who are talented we have a lot of people out here who can you know help these businesses we can change right now in this stance Oh I've got the money or I don't need them or whatever it may be gentrification in his arrogance is going to be their downfall expect to be an innovator their arrogance you need to involve the community and continue and. Join the community so that you know what needs to be done. Going to let me ask you this as we kind of wrap up how much. Of. Your showing a spotlight on gentrification that exist in San Francisco. And you know raising this conversation and having a black face to that. Well as you know as we saw in the movie you know the gentrification within everybody you know there was the black folks gentrified but also the White House and all that right you know how much of that was like you know we rather not have that story be told on our watch how much of that was kind of. Making us look bad with this knowing we wanted people to see and even when you watched a movie from one in 4 or 5 it was really going to displace me in San Francisco it's horrific. You go over to visualization Valley which is sunny day towers you go to the mission and you see a lot of Latinos being pushed out you come to feel moment which was once upon a time in Harlem or the West I would say let's just say 100 percent film. And on a good day I'm talking about right now as we speak people actually reside there maybe 5 percent when you go to bed You 100 point those people have been on toxic land in experience in environmental racism for decades but now they want to clean it up when you go to trial here I'm not sure about the displaced mean when you go to a village I read about a woman who has 4 or 5 children in a china. Because the father of her children is coming over here and being a father so when you go to all these neighborhoods when you look at Lakeview when all the homes are sold so when you come to San Francisco and you talk about gentrification when you think about this movie none of the was held back in fact again that's the p.g. Version of what's really going on in. San Francisco is on track to be the 1st major metropolitan to legally eradicate blackness out of the city and I'm going to speak on it because that's what's going on they don't want to steer and if they say they do a lot you cannot build a 1000 new places and say oh $50.00 of them are for low income no you need to be low income housing you need to create you need to create opportunity we need to have these public schools being better funded it's no reason the children should be tested. It's too much money in a city of to be felonies children homelessness this is no way to should be going on if. You want to get rid of homelessness you don't have. $40000000.00 for this god do a study on you come to me you come to a few other people we can eradicate homelessness in a year if people are genuine stop using black people brown people other people poor people homeless people to pray. We don't need back to the beautiful movie even though it. Is based on a biopic and I love how it does deal with the. How the movie is letting people know not just here but all around how we're being displaced Naturally this whole black brown eradication because that's what it is you want to get us out of l.a. You want to get us about a debate you want to get us about a New York the same place as the other people didn't want to be now everybody wants to come in. Where everybody doesn't make a $1000000.00 a year. To voice a gun. From the movie last black man in San Francisco. Just to reiterate they are trying to make sure that they get to London big film festival they have there they have a Go Fund Me Again giving give the information again last black man you. Go Fund Me dot com back. Black main not man but me and in me in u.k. Go. On the pay you back that this government employee did think I may have got to have I have got the job done with that outcome. And how I mean after Wow The thing that I give you all book of the week you know I think talk about the 1000 not a bit there you want to tell you about. After you about them in the white man he's not he's not taking advantage of you you out in public like they do on down to Birmingham but he couldn't you with that brother when you go to look for a job can you get a job when you get it done when it is done with going there and your time is not a good thing I think I'm a hero a national educational television presenter. Take this hammer. To the film report on a visit to the city of San Francisco about a novelist as they are and playwright James Baldwin. Of all the guide on the story of the city is the executive director of you for service for the last. Good. Drive from the airport into any American city looks pretty much the same you could be anywhere for James Baldwin the similarity goes deeper. Than the drive into San Francisco ballroom began talking about the increasing bitterness demoralization and despair of negro use in northern cities and it was decided that we would explore the existence of such attitudes and conditions in the city of San Francisco with its widely advertised liberal and cosmopolitan position. Baldwin also talked about his concept of dues paying a living up to one's responsibilities and commented that many northerners seem to feel that because they do not live in Mississippi they are somehow paying their dues. I think that the truth is that. Everyone on the one hand is fundamentally capable of paying dues and no one pays his dues willingly. You know. In a white man like a black man like any other man it. Conveys dues and realizes that's what he's got to do. As long as you think there's no way to get to live without paying your dues. You gotta be bankrupt. The bill has come in. Is coming in it is in. The very question now is this I see what we've got in the bank. This will cause everything we think we had everything. And Birmingham is an instant. Drain become a shrine what is very crucial is whether the country the people in the country the citizenry. Are able to recognize there is no moral distance. No more of this because they know this. Thing the facts of life and sentences going the facts of life and burning at. One out of call no one's going to kind of like it is. My place that. I imagine even you I presume look at the sentence the division everything was a dream. The city looks that way of on the surface but there's a little pretty The View. That it's easiest to hide isn't in the deal the but the view that the new in the. Us isn't the school let's introduce them to the cosmopolitan. Temple in the kingdom. Consider. That your blood ran with the spirit that is saying the same. Children dying here. In the very same reason. That seeing some of the place to live. Comes to. The body once destroy the image of sentences. I want to point to when San Francisco has a home this moment and I think most of it but what that's being watched at the day is something black and young people go to school together they graduate out the same state and then when it comes to jobs the Blind faith is not a problem fact but they graduate then find out I have to go clean up the same house that she does with self-esteem and I think the most anger being watched over by. Well we talk about that but we have more because the real situation involves the city as opposed to the image that was so like to present this alleged tell you know that I love that about me. I'm a stranger here as you say I'm sure that I'm sure the principles are curious about the details Well one thing about it is particular about 80 percent of the people in this area are neutral. Relaunch housing projects. Is for its maintenance is concerned we'll think about for the job situation is bad because this is a real Black Bill. And I think that. The lady hoping to. Lessen this Nichols is the representative of the indigenous leaders and potentially. It's understood the pressure of. This question I've asked myself all the time what's the size of your state to introduce you. To. Invest a little. More at. Least a country. That you generally shan't have. Lost most of it when did it with the labor kids and time you insist that he know he can do anything he wants to do. How do you make him believe that's a difficult question and I think that one of the main things that we can do our make him firmly believe that what they say everybody kids being at Princeton is going and about and mathematics and then that message for. Spending becomes that. Tally gets 40 to 50 years old if against to find out. That this this is not true and. To make him. Able to. Come to him in the future fund in a group president of this country and there will be any repairs of this kind why do you say that a good job I wouldn't be a president. But. I. I want you to think about this. They will believe the president of this country they will not be. Sitting in now but if you say to yourself then I will be a nigger president as country what you're doing is agreeing with my people who say you are inferior is unimportant really. Without his legal president I mean it that way when you go visit you should realize if you can become if you can become the president. There's nothing anybody anybody can do that you can't do. But the truth is because I'm trying to get out of thousands of those guys racially which is to say you know you get the remote the negroes need opportunity you got to be in these 5 times as good as anybody else around 5 times as good a job that this was a day that I think. There are real problems they cannot find in the country any. Any reason to think that. They have anything else. And that's how they end up for example. If you caught. That one section of population of the populace against another section. And to climb which. Meant it could destroy this country. But you think that please. I think they have a purpose but then again the way some of these people do you sometimes money pick you up. Like a couple times a day just walking around they look at you if you look suspicious they will just stop you. Back out of going to show one night. In a way and we just have to go around Market Street and we think the police car go back. To turn a corner in a corner they meet us and they stand still talk to them for the fact that a 9 o'clock. Then they didn't have an excuse to stop or that they stopped the search car and call in this neck and what the purpose of that we were doing it. Well nobody has made. Me as you want to say what the police do when they get man was just doing a good man. We get mad we can do things to people what they do when they get a man who they take. I think you know the answer that question I command the police is never bothered me in that way but I read newspapers. Have been living around it all my life not the thing is going. To Beijing it lad has got a gun he's got a club. Yeah. It's one thing that's different in the sense of Cisco and then with him it is that sense of this goes when I watch. Him I think that was going to live up. To the headlines that everyone that everyone is that was this guy the right person that was given time to have done a good job of everywhere I've been in country. Is excellent I need to find a single male in the country like that and then if you want that's and then go have an opportunity. To go be. Fine they don't reach out and I want to shut your mouth and put him in the window of the last leg self-will say this one seems to me in my hand and my. Way I look at it when I was born just like the and Alabama right now and I feel that we don't some of the ones that can't go down we can we can March on San Francisco for the black main they have the black one we can do that here because it has been stated that until we work own. San Francisco in the areas. You know Chicago and all around that we can get something done we can help our brothers and our. Black people in Alabama I'll not be Yes I marry down from Texas but anywhere in the south anywhere Negro is a black man is involved there. A lot of 5 kids a lot of a 9 week old baby but if the time comes when I came watching Sam this is the 2nd I will say sorry I take it to go to Alabama. the you. Know nothing no way I don't go in the middle of a wood. The vehicle. I am going to sing. Along to Palo Alto that way and the scene between the 2 languages. Is a God I realize what a doubt the white man was out of becoming I don't want to get stuck jumping on. Everything you know that went bad is that he didn't go. Off on you to tell me I was God and I said Ok you made has done I'm interested in your essay you 1st of all the rest is. A lot of the nice things about it I was not. One for. Where the would say God I. Like. Yes. And yes. We have. This enough. To believe in one thing. But stick together. So you think. That it. Is a. People didn't know you know little children and they don't think what I learned about 80001000 would not have meant they got me that you. Don't know we were going to get out. There and whatever San Francisco. Over to the Golden Gate Bridge. 2 the 2019 local station more lections are underway if you donated a minimum of $25.00 or volunteered 3 hours between July 1st 2018 and June 30th 2019 you should have perceived. 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Listening to Flashpoints on a typical radio this is Dennis Bernstein with my partner Miguel got to them Alina and we are honored to be joined by Richard Montoya Richard Montoya you may have heard of culture clash He's a co-founder of the culture clash in fact he co-founded that comedy satire group in 1984 on Cinco de mio and I believe you've been going strong ever since welcome to flashpoints Miguel and I are great glad to have you with us. And the honor is mine Dennis to be with my other man out there and got the line yet to me there's the Nuremberg thing and be. Perfectly happy could be with you today man thank you so much well thank you and before we jump into it Richard could you say a little bit about Cinco de mio and what why culture clash would be founded on Cinco de my own something about culture clash Well you know it's at 35 years and going strong be we've learned how to work. The last 5 years allowing ourselves to go do important site projects and in my case I've been making some films that I hope are Porton one will be at the let the film festival and in some senses go across the bay there but coming back a couple of times out of the year for example a culture clash still in America will be at the Berkeley Rep just a few streets away from where you are now in your studio and will be back at Berkeley January March April with a pretty hard hitting piece which I think is key to why we stay together there's still an urgency and a need to make noise to raise hell to do exactly what whatever others and sisters there in Cape if they have been doing you know we celebrated 60 years of Cape p.s.k. Here in l.a. The other day your Pacifica sister down south and Amy Goodman keynote was was steering in its indictment and there we were at her ball Jewish community center and the Jewish community centers have become the new sanctuary centers and there we were united strong and even though we might be there to provide the levity the comedy has never been more deadly serious than it is right now as we watch white supremacy machine increase and you know it it doesn't seem to be a time to to tell a lot of jokes but culture clash we haven't been telling jokes for a long time what we are doing is trying to gather stories and reflect the madness and in that madness find some sort of hope and oftentimes the last can provide that window to what is otherwise pretty damn dreary news headlines but we've got to fight back somehow when speaking of those headlines though I must ask you before I turn to my covert I'm a gal I would like you to talk about. What this looks like many that we interview now who are on the front lines call this some front ethnic cleansing we've got a white supremacist in the White House who is clearly not just any opportunistic businessman but he is about standing up to the new majority in America which is in white you want to give us some of your thoughts of what you see unfolding because you're right we need some human we need some inspiration because these are difficult times not just from the beginning I but for the people who are being destroyed having their families burst being kidnapped being kids being kidnapped then he goes on and on then this is a terrible time. It is again it's almost under speakable plan but it's you know after headlines like just when we thought things could get worse you know children are dying and and cages and then as we're go for the Trump head shake this way the claim that environmental row backs from the reservation across the land are being stripped away that you digital arms of the government are lockstep marching and kind of trumps jackbooted and all these things are really not like a cancer Well we're you know focused on this and that or what Joe Biden said and so I'm a little concerned that well we are consumed with whatever dumb natural tweet came out of the oval office bathroom today that far bigger come into the theater culture clash even going back to that 1st thing called the Maya with a new Janya across the bay because I thought of course the I got an article Ms money couple I've written Herbert. Even from day one we thought well people are going to walk into the theater at our shows and escape We're we're going to have to deal with with things that in our show so I like everyone else consumed . Impeachment is an absolutely moral necessity you know whether we lose this or lose that what do we tell our children 10 years from now what did we do you know when the government came for our children what did we do what did you do well grandson and I you know I closed my doors and I stayed quiet or in No You know it's quite the opposite and then telling you Dennis you in the good men you guys inspire a lot of people too and so I think one silver lining is that there's a coming together in a joining of hands of people light I think the baby the trunk base is much smaller and much deadlier I know we know how deadly it is but I think it's a small baby it's not going to go quietly into the night so this is more than anything keeps culture clash going because then we can stop now it's I think that it's we used to do satire but satire is daily now Trump is the biggest Terkel clown ever so we're actually going more into real lives them so that we can reflect realistically in real time. What's going on and so a new culture clash over the words might change the scenes might change but the themes have never wavered and where we are right now and.