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Brett Kavanaugh and if he's the deciding vote let's listen say I doubt this would happen it probably go together Manchin and Susan Collins bullishness say they diverge and calling votes against it comes down to Joe Manchin and he votes to confirm Brett Kavanaugh What does that mean for his standing in the Senate if he wins reelection with Democrats in the future I almost see this kind of like a Joe Lieberman situation when Joe Lieberman became a an independent before he retired. I think the the passions are are so raw and so intense at this point and this fight has become so wrapped up with. Issues that go beyond partisanship beyond the traditional fights. That there will be senators who have a very hard time. Working with Joe Manchin if if he indeed is the deciding vote to put Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. The same token. We're in a midterm election year and if the. Democrats were as I think is within the realm of possibility were to get to a situation where they might have a majority in the Senate with mansion's vote a 51 Democrats to 49 Republicans not a 5050 but a 5149. I think at that point mansion would be accepted within the caucus. Because among other things he would put Dianne Feinstein in in charge of the Senate Judiciary Committee. And that. That's the the tough calculus the reality of how the Senate operates and we would be foolish to deny it by the same token while I say that while I think that is that is a reality of how the Senate operates remember I think that that Mitch McConnell's going to let Murkowski continue to caucus with the Republicans. You know and would even if she was the barrier to Kevin getting on the court. I don't want to underestimate and this is something that your folks are just really rose from saying as regards the pledge drive you know people calling in and talking about their personal experiences talk about their own pain their own you know history and. And I don't think that should be underestimated I do think that mansion would burn some significant bridges in the Senate and that his boat would be you know I think it's the historic vote I think it would be remembered. Not merely for months or years who would remember to the end of his career All right John Nichols thank you so much for your time today because when I go can I just politics can I just say. There are very few radio networks very few stations around the country they're giving this level of commitment to this coverage and what is still an incredibly critical stage and if there's anyone who has not pledged at this point in the previous you know you've got this matching grant and I cannot begin to emphasize how vital this coverage that's going on right now is and also because of it so it unique circumstance where it called vital the coverage going forward will be people we knew we do need to call in and support this station and support this kind of journalist and I think it becomes more vital every day and so I hope people will pledge Well you're practically doing our job for us that incredibly kind and generous voice is John Nichols Washington correspondent for The Nation magazine The only thing that's missing is the phone number 180-439-5732 extension 1800 hate. Or online at Kate p.f.a. Dot org He's correct we do have a $2000.00 challenge that is in effect for the next 25 minutes 5 callers on the line towards that challenge currently 180-439-5732 extension 1800 Hey p.f.a. 180-439-5732 online. We are now ready to return to the Senate floor right into That's right the debate has resumed it is now Tom Carper a Democrat from Delaware at the day it's just that high stakes surrounding the Sea that heated by Justice Kennedy maybe even higher the next justice may shift the balance of our nation's highest court for a generation maybe even longer. Next justice may very well be asked to rule on questions of executive power that test our democracy. And we're throwing ourselves if we refuse to acknowledge that the stakes are so high in large part because this chamber has yet to reckon with the grave injustice that was done to America Garland into our Constitution and 26000 as many will recall a Judge Garland who serve who serves as the chief justice of the chief judge of the d.c. Circuit Court the highest federal appeals court in our land was nominated by President Obama over 2 years ago to fill the seat held up by the late Justice Scalia on the Supreme Court shamefully he was denied any kind of consideration by this body he waited 293 days for a hearing and a vote that never came most Republican senators refused to even meet with him a good man and was treated badly and so is our Constitution the president obstruction our Republican colleagues mounted against Judge Garland was a shameful chapter for the United States Senate I'm still deeply troubled by those 293 days I know some of my colleagues are as well it's unlikely that I know. And it's likely that I'll continue to be troubled by them for the rest of my life we may never agree which side hold the pen now out of the grenade but restore recognizing this institutional never be the same if stealing Supreme Court seats and creating one set of rules for Democratic presidents another set of rules for Republican presidents is the new norm so Mr President despite the injustice done to America and justice course which was ultimately confirmed last year on a bipartisan basis I might add when Justice Kennedy retired earlier this year President Tom Crum nominated as we know judge read capital to fill that seat more than 12 years ago I met with Judge Kavanagh in my office here in the capital. When the Senate considered his nomination to the d.c. Circuit Court of Appeals. Back in 2006 I voted my hopes over mines 2 years unfortunately over the last decade many of my worst fears have come true I believe the judge Kavanagh's extreme record on the bench that has unfolded over the past dozen years stands in stark contrast to the views of most Americans on too many important issues for example Americans overwhelmingly support protection for those living with preexisting conditions Brett Kavanaugh ruled against up holding the Affordable Care Act in 2011 it's widely expected he would side with conservative justices if and when cases like Texas vs the u.s. Come before the court and if it does the a.c.s. Protection for people with preexisting conditions would be invalidated for tens of millions of Americans and speaking of health care Americans overwhelmingly support women having the freedom to make their own health care decisions Brett Kavanaugh working in the Bush White House in 2003 wrote in an internal memo stating that Roe versus Wade may not be considered quote settled law of the land because the Supreme Court can always overrule its precedent because quote Americans also overwhelmingly support independent checks on executive power we believe that no one in America is above the law yet Brett Kavanaugh And Joe I 2009 Minnesota law review article wrote that Congress should pass a law to exempt a sitting president from criminal prosecution or investigation when I learned of this Mr President my reaction was You gotta be kidding. But apparently he was not kill. Ironically that Thracian came just 11 years after Brad Cavanagh played a key role in drafting the Starr Report which laid out grounds for impeachment of then President Bill Clinton but the greatest threat that Brett Kavanaugh may poses to this cunt to this country and its people is with respect to our environment and all my years I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't want to make sure we have clean air to breathe and clean water during a review of Judge Kavanagh's nearly 300 opinions over the last 12 years both concurrences and dissents show judge Kavanaugh has voted to weaken or block environmental protections a staggering 89 percent of the time 89 percent of the time and fact Judge Kavanaugh has never dissented in a case that would weaken environmental protection and admit as much in his responses from questions for the record from Senator Sanders Feinstein and Harris and other words you know what I saying in other words almost 9 out of 10 times he has sided with those who weaken environmental protections over those that would strengthen it I fear that if confirmed Judge Kavanagh could well turn out to be the next Scott put we remember Him However unlike former e.p.a. Administrator who's 10 year ended finally after 18 torturous months Brett Kavanaugh could damage our environment for a quarter century or more if he serves on the Supreme Court for example just last year Scott put at temps to delay rules limiting methane emissions from oil and gas drilling was challenged in the d.c. Circuit court where Judge Cavanagh now serves and that case Judge Kavanaugh aside was Scott Pruitt and the fossil fuel industry voting against his colleagues who found still way l. Legal. Judge Cavanagh has also attempted to severely limit E.T.A.'s authority to regulate toxic emissions and greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act. In 2012 he blocked the air pollution destruction sections that covering nearly half of our country in danger of thousands of lives this is especially concerning to those of us who live and Dan would say if I could tell Mr President we're over 90 percent of our air pollution comes from dirty emissions and states to our west that drift across our borders when I was governor Mr President I could shut down my state every car truck then off the road shut down every business we were to still get out of compliance for clean air clean air requirements because of the up when the state putting their pollution up in the air and then simply go to Delaware or Maryland or Jersey or any other state who happens to live along America's tailpipe on the East Coast strictly based on Judge Kavanagh's environmental record on the bench over the past 12 years I was prepared to vote no on his nomination many weeks ago. And last week the Senate and much of our country was riveted by compelling and I believe powerful testimony from a private citizen and a victim Dr Christine Ford who came forward to share the most traumatic experience of her life and. She stepped forward despite the serious risk that it posed for both her and her family death threat having moved out of her house and she testified despite being terrified she did so despite of being I'm sure that her story would make any difference at all she did so because she said it was their civic duty to share the truth show a lot of courage a whole lot of courage. I blame my colleagues I've been contacted by sexual assault survivors sense Dr Ford's testimony who have been inspired to come forward and share their stories it serves as further proof that this problem is not only under reported but that men and women are victims of sexual assault can and they do birth this trauma not for weeks not for months not for years for decades and some of our Republican colleagues have acknowledged that Dr Ford's testimony was credible but despite her credit credibility they say don't see her testimony is reason enough to deny judge Kavanaugh a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court they say they don't have enough evidence to believe her instead they painted this is something of a he said she said situation involving young people well let's look at what he said then last week Judge Cavanagh currently sits on our nation's 2nd highest court came before the United States Senate and on leads a torrent of on believably partisan attack I've never seen anything like it and testimony before any committee I've served on or known of it claimed that the allegations against him were fueled by anger about President Trump and in 2016 election close quote It was so far as to say that the Clones the claims were merely quote revenge on behalf of the Clintons close quote he threatened Democratic members saying quote What goes around comes around close quote you know there's an old saying that says adversity does not build character it reveals it or at day I judge Kavanaugh revealed himself to be a partisan during that hearing. After witnessing the vitriol that Judge Kavanaugh spewed How could any left leaning cause think they could ever possibly get a fair shake from him to show their case come before the Supreme Court his temperament was clearly unbecoming of a judge when alone a Supreme Court justice. And what's perhaps even more disturbing is that it seems clear that Judge Cavanagh was willing to be so brazenly partisan in order to appeal to an audience of one watching the proceedings from $1600.00 Pennsylvania Avenue judge Kavanaugh his testimony last week also raise additional questions regarding his truthfulness for weeks my colleagues on the Judiciary Committee including Senators Durbin and Senator Leahy have raised serious concerns that Judge Kavanagh may have misled the Judiciary Committee about the extent of his role in the Bush administration helping several controversy 0 judicial nominees navigate the Senate confirmation process Judge Cavanagh may have also misled the Judiciary Committee about the extent of his role in the Bush administration helping shape several controversial decisions in the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks including warrantless wiretapping and the right of enemy combatants. And during his most recent hearing about the allegations brought forward by Dr Ford judge Kavanaugh answered several questions about his younger days in ways that were at best misleading and a worse while under oath. Kavanagh's less than truthful answers on matters large and small points very troubling pattern and raise serious questions about his credibility. And even if my Republican colleagues don't want to believe Dr Ford and even if they agree the judge will judge Cavanagh judicial record the fact that he came before this body and so brazenly misled by fellow senators should I believe by itself be disqualified as president before coming to the Senate I was privileged to serve as you may recall a governor of Delaware for 8 years that rowing nominated dozens of men and women to serve as judges and then several course of national prominence the Delaware Supreme Court the stellar Superior Court Ellen Court of Chancery to name a few and while the roles of those chords differ the qualities that I look forward like you do she needs were similar. I look for men and women who are bright I look for men or women who know who all I look for a minute women who had the good judgment who are able and willing to make a decision including a difficult decision I look for men and women with a strong work ethic and I want to nominate somebody for troubled chairman just so I kwacha them retire on the john I look for nominees who are collegial and able to build consensus courts had several a larger panel. But there were 3 qualities that were most important to me 3 qualities judicial temperament impartiality. Treating everyone before them fairly or not showing partiality and finally truthfulness I was free to Dish and temperament impartiality and truthfulness fact there was a time in my 1st term as governor as president I deny the sitting justice of the dollar Supreme Court the opportunity to serve an additional 12 year term because he lacked appropriate judicial temperament I'm told that was unprecedented. That his judicial temperament what I thought was appropriate were not one and the same for president it gives me no joy to say what about to say but the temperament the judge Kavanaugh exhibited in the Judiciary Committee last week was not was it wasn't just unacceptable for a Supreme Court justice it would be unacceptable for a judge in Delaware and serving on the Delaware Court of Common Pleas last week. And ever to actually get to the truth and ensure this by kind of all the facts from for taking such an important and consequential vote my Delaware colleagues and I call for the f.b.i. To conduct a nonpartisan investigation unfortunately what we ended up with was for sharp falls far short of what the Senate deserves and certainly what the American people deserve what we got was a process certainly not designed to inform if this process was designed to inform the White House and Republicans would actually allow the f.b.i. To speak to the more than 40 individuals whose names Dr Ford and Ms remarries submitted as people who could put potentially kharab or corroborate their accounts the f.b.i. Never talked to any of those people if this were a process designed to inform the dozens of individuals who contacted the f.b.i. To share potentially helpful accounting information would have received calls and response to those concerns they did not if this process were designed to inform the White House and Senate Republicans would have allowed the f.b.i. To expand the scope of this investigation they did not and this process were designed to inform the majority leader would have at least waited to schedule a vote on Brett Kavanaugh his nomination until after receiving and read the f.b.i. Report he did not saddling Mr President Sadly this process has been a sham. A sham from the start I know our president is proud to health from the state of Louisiana I am equally proud to hail from the 1st state. As you may know Mr President we're called the 1st state because we are the 1st state to ratify the u.s. Constitution longest living the most emulated constitution in the history of the world one of the fundamental reasons our Constitution and our democracy has endured is because of the intricate system of checks and balances that our Founding Fathers crafted just up the road in Philadelphia some 231 years ago the process we've been through here in the last several weeks unfortunately makes a mockery of that system of checks and balances I believe we all must recognize that to use the majority leader's words plowing through with Judge Kavanaugh his nomination will diminish the credibility the Supreme Court is an institution that stays above the political fray in fact Confirming Judge Kavanaugh when trying doubt in every controversial 54 decision moving forward from this time . It also calls into question the legitimacy of us of this very chamber let me just say to my colleagues still wavering on Judge Kavanagh's nomination let me leave you with this we will not only be judged by voters this November we're going to be judged by history we say that a lot sometimes it's tried or overstated this case it is not going to be judged by history in this regard I would in Florida each of you that are still thinking is sort of trying to figure out what is the right thing to do me urge you to show that we're still worthy of being called the world's greatest deliberative body let's show that we have made progress since the 1991 and the previous Supreme Court nomination confirmation. Episode let show that we're willing to take a stand and do the right thing because if we're not short term political winds will be forever eclipsed by the permanent stain left on our legacies in this body from which there may be no recovery that Mr President I yield the floor Thank you. Democratic Senator Tom Carper of Delaware this is live coverage on k. P.f.a. Of the Senate debate over the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court we expect to find out in about 90 minutes at noon when Susan Collins announces her position on the nomination how the ultimate vote will go and tell then pretty much anybody's guess I'm Brian Edwards Tikker with Mitch just rich and before returning to the Senate floor a very very quick. Update on our largely suspended fundraising efforts here we have a $2000.00 challenge that is in effect 3 and a half minutes left on that challenge we are at $1635.00 as of the last count I got that means we have 365 to go. The phone number is 180-439-5732 extension 1800. P.f.a. Or online at w.w.w. Dot org. 3 minutes if we can raise $365.00 it will be an extra 2000 for k.p. F.a. Unfortunately we have to handle 2 no callers on the line in the past few minutes maybe someone out there can do a dollar a day for Kay p.f.a. 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And thank you to the 15 people calling in right now I will pick up on the Senate floor with Roy Blunt Republican senator representing Missouri. About in the other 7. F.b.i. Interviews that have occurred over the years and the outside number was one week a week ago one week was what was apparently going to be plenty of time I think some members in the minority at that time said well maybe even 3 or 4 days that's what it took with the Clarence Thomas hearing and by the way that was before these issues became public because it was turned over to the f.b.i. Like it should have been and 3 or 4 days they talked to everybody you could talk to but last week 3 or 4 days might have been enough but certainly a week would have been enough according to the other side of course that was never going to be the case a week was never going to be enough and by the way this president and background checks when you're asked to be part of that one if it's your background check one of the questions your Ask any drinking problems any drug problems and he'd been asked that over and over and over and over and over and over again and anybody that center viewed I think is always asked Do you know of any problems like that usually a question is do you know if you ever heard of anything that we would be interested in if we had heard about it another question off is would you tell us 3 people that we might not talk to that we might know something about Judge Kavanaugh that we should know a decade to have 7 f.b.i. Interviews 120 people interviewed the behavioral question the drinking question the drug question. Which hasn't come up as far as I know but it's always ask has been asked over and over again and then you and I and Senator Inhofe went the other morning to hear a review of this last set of interviews were people that were possibly would have been able to cooperate something were interviewed and couldn't cooperated. They will case got in many ways weaker as that moved forward but we heard that and then I heard that afternoon Senator Schumer said this is these this this this is full of ents of misconduct so I went back this morning and looked through the 6 pre or prior background checks look through this prior this background check and it's turned out I agree with Senator Grassley who said there has no hint of misconduct if there had been a hint of misconduct in the previous 5 he would have never been nominated if there had been a hint of misconduct in the $61.00 he would have been nominated wouldn't of that wouldn't have sustained itself and if you look at the pages that are new that's not there now so you can say anything you want to say you can say it's not time enough that you could say that even though no witness ever saw any of these events you have just haven't talked to enough people yet even though you've talked to everybody mentioned as for as I know of any credible charges and so here we are so now now it's temperament now it's temperament. I don't think there are many senators who would have had and would not have had. His same indignation at being accused of something that he without equivocation swore did not happen only in those instances but any other instance. Ruth Bader Ginsburg when it took 43 days for her to being confirmed were about to 83 days or something like that now. When I looked up a couple of articles just to refresh my memory when she shows some fire and she had plenty of it and I admire that her the description of her is her well known candor that's how you describe it when Justice Ginsburg has her own opinion like when she said about the Republican nominee last year he's a faker he has no consistency about him he should withdraw. What she said when she said I can't imagine what this place would be I can't imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president now is that is that a temperament issue or is that too political and by the I am not offended by political . The court never was either John Marshall one of the great judges of the court was the secretary of state from the person that appointed him Earl Warren who certainly set a standard for the court had never been. In any public office except political elected office before he became the chief justice and when he joined the court in 1953 there were 3 former senators setting on the co-work there were 2 former attorney generals setting on the court both had been appointed by the president they'd been attorney general for. A lengthy Kagan was the principal lawyer for President Obama but suddenly political becomes a problem or temperament becomes a problem of Thurgood Marshall said while he was on the court and by the way I admire in so many ways so much of Thurgood Marshall's work what he did as a lawyer the decision that. President Johnson made was clearly historic. But they're good Marshall said as a justice I wouldn't do the job of dog catcher for Ronald Reagan wouldn't do the job of dog catcher about President Bush while he was still a Justice Thurgood Marshall said it said if you can't say something good about a dead person don't say it well I consider him dead and then obviously concerned dad you take the 1st the 1st injunction you don't have anything to say people on the court having opinions or nothing wrong with that and in this case we have a judge you can look at 12 years of judging and you can look at 300 opinions and you could look at his law school classes he taught there's plenty to look at Mr President and those all I believe had to a couple conclusions one the way this nomination has been treated was outrageous I think my good friend of talk before said he'd never seen anything like it well. There's never been anything like this hold on to information that can't be corroborated only release it after it's clear that the judge has the votes to be confirmed and you want to do as the majority leader said anything you could possibly the minority leader to slow down and stop this nomination. We have plenty to look at here we cannot set a standard of guilty until proven innocent because in anybody can make any charge at any time and particularly when there's many reasons to believe that. There's nothing in 7 background checks there is nothing 150 interview there's nothing and a very visible public career to ever suggest that Judge Kavanagh is anything different than he said he was of us who vote for believe. And I would yield the floor. And you're listening to k.p. a Phase live coverage of the Senate debate on the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme Court again quickly with the situation is that about 2 hours ago the Senate voted for what they call as cloture cloture meaning that they are cutting off debate on the nomination and will now head into a final vote that could happen tomorrow what's significant on the vote is that there was one Republican who voted with the Democrats in in opposing cloture and there was one Democrat voted with Republicans in supporting cloture the Republican who voted we can say this but it doesn't quite work out this way the Republican who voted. Against cloture and joining the Democrats is Lisa Murkowski of Alaska Joe Manchin the Democrat 4 of West Virginia voted with the Republicans to move to a final vote right now there is a lot hanging on what Susan Collins a Republican from Maine is going to do she voted for cloture and oftentimes a vote for cloture will mirror the final vote but not always so she voted for cloture and then she said in about an hour and 13 minutes from now she will make an announcement probably from the Senate floor that will have for you how she intends to vote finally on the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh if she says she votes against Brett Kavanaugh then. The nomination of Cavanagh is in serious trouble and it will come down to Democrat Joe Manchin to see how his final vote will be he could still be the deciding vote if Collins votes against Manchin can still get Kavanagh on the court if he votes yes we're going to have it live for you I'm it's just rich coming to you from Kaye p.f.a. 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She does not know. And has never attended a party where he was there I mean it can't be more definite that that's from her best friend. Doctor for testified is testimony as compared to other statements she made to her therapist to The Washington Post to the Reiki member and her statement for the polygraph exam there are various inconsistency is that should not be ignored Dr Ford's inability to remember the details of the alleged attack like things like the date the place the other circumstances surrounding the event that places judge have no in a difficult position to defend himself as Democrats in the media unjustly shift the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused I don't remember that happening before you know this is still America and from the beginning judge Kavanagh has categorically denied accusations and has not wavered or equivocated on this point he's. He's cooperated with the Judiciary Committee that's Senator Grassley committee their investigation every step of the way including speaking with Committee staff under oath several times over the course of the last couple of weeks in providing documentation to help clear his name he's done it up everything we we've asked him he's done on the other hand Dr Ford's attorneys have refused to turn over the keys evidence that her testimony relied on to corroborate her claims her Earth therapist's notes that were shown to the Washington Post but not to the committee messages she exchanged with the reporter the documentation the recordings related to the polygraph test she took and in early August they were refusing to turn over key evidence so they didn't have any evidence they could turn over so no wonder there's no witnesses that can cooperate the accusations that's been made against this fine man now I'm not going to go to into the other allegations there. Others that came in on the timing of this is kind of interesting 1st of all they've with elbowed this documented doctor of Fort Hood for 2 months you know it's hard to keep a secret around this place and I'm surprised that it didn't come out but they did it for a purpose what do you think that purpose is what other purpose could it be other they would into the last minute and coming out was something that was never discussed before no accusation was made and so that's that's that's what happened and the based on what we know the totality condemned anyone an offense that has been denied and not proven it would be a caution to anyone else and you have the same thing John Adams our 2nd president the United States he wrote Know this that this was to present he said this is a quote he said but if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned perhaps to die then this citizen will say whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial for innocence itself is no protection and if such an idea is that we were to take hold in the mind of a citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever that's what he said I think would Scripture say it's in. In numbers 3530 says quote eventually kills a person to murder should be put to death on the evidence of witnesses but no person no person should be put to death on the testimony of one witness. I think about that that's a direct violation of what they're trying to do and so Eve got John Adams you've got there you've got the Bible you've got and then there's our judicial system and it's reflected in our judicial system as well quote innocent until proven guilty unquote It's the more than just a phrase it's a cornerstone of the rule of law since before our founding it was that it and its wisdom has been borne out time and time again throughout history it is that until proven guilty that's really what's on trial here innocent until proven guilty I've never seen this happen before and have been around for a long 'd time to cut through the drama and focus on the facts that's why I continue to support Judge Kavanagh's confirmation judge Kavanagh's name has been unjustly run through the mud by the subsequent allegations that the even the New York Times did not deem it to print or were brought forth by a known publicity seeker with an axe to grind against the president looking for nothing but attention and more fame for himself I'm dismayed by my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that have taken these and corporate aided and fantastical allegations at face value and run with it I feel the Democrats show their hand in the days since last week's hearing and the agreement on the separate little f.b.i. Background investigation that was made the narrative has shifted from allegations of sexual misconduct to ones of judicial temperament as my friend. From Missouri. Pointed out now I'm not a lawyer. But everyone knows the saying that if the law is on your side argue that off the facts are on your side argue the facts if neither the facts nor the law are on your side pound the table and that's what we're hearing right now and you've got to difference here is that with the Democrats are trying to outdo each other in pounding the table. They know the allegations are not proven they know that Judge haven't already means committed to it is it isn't in the process and they know that Republicans who are remain committed to the facts so they must change tactics moving the goalposts when we're in attacked him on other grounds the 1st of these is to question his temperament because he defended himself his family his career is his name so forcefully 'd in passionately he did not demonstrate that cause major detach demeanor that one should expect of a judge with a problem with this characterization is that ignores the fact that judge have no was not a disinterested party hearing the arguments of opposing counsel he was the subject of the accusations and it was that he that was being attacked and condemned there's a big difference here I dare anyone to become a dispassionate if they had to sit by for 10 days and watch and listen to everyone they worked for and built over a long career and public service being torn down in it it's shit without any proof any proof that oh. See your high school yearbook picked apart good spirit theorists who seek their various meanings behind jokes and 30 year olds to see your friends and family be threaten and harass and you can do nothing to stop it. This idea completely ignores the fact that Judge Kevin has proven over 12 years that is they don't have the 2nd most powerful core in the country that he does have the temperament we look for in our judges this fact is supported by unanimous well qualified a.b.a. Rating. Which is considered to be the gold standard from the Democrats and the cat was testimonies by people across the political spectrum that have worked with him in our use case in it and know him well in the last few days the discourse further devolved into perjury claims based on the judge's drinking habits in high school and college legal arguments to those who are knowledgeable in the. Department. 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