America contest it honors our service and I sacrifice but also reminds everyone that we are winning for Sunday May 27th this is All Things Considered from n.p.r. News. I'm Michel Martin we'll also talk with the Reverend Rob Schenck he was a key player in militant anti-abortion groups he's now turned his attention to gun violence we don't have to become pessimists and say that our children are doomed to being slaughtered in their schools that's not what Christ calls us to and we'll talk new music and politics with rapper Pusha t. Delivery. Truck in the big question but 1st this news. Live from n.p.r. News in Washington I'm Jenny and Herbst like u.s. Team is in North Korea today N.P.R.'s Scott Horsley reports they're holding talks with North Korean counterparts in preparation for a possible summit between President Trump and Kim Jong un the ongoing talks in Bonn one job along the border between North and South Korea are the latest sign the Trump Kim summit could soon be back on the president of roughly cancel the meeting last week citing what he called anger and hostility from North Korea since then though Trungpa suggested the meeting could be revived possibly at the originally planned time and place June 12th in Singapore the president points to what he calls very productive talks with Pyongyang on which just a week ago was ignoring communications from the United States Trump told reporters on Saturday that if he's successful in ridding North Korea of its nuclear weapons that would be good for North Korea South Korea Japan China and the world Scott Horsley n.p.r. News Washington meanwhile Trump tweeted today that he quote truly believes North Korea has brilliant potential to be a great economic and financial nation one day and that crick Kim agrees with him on that point former President George h.w. Bush has been hospitalized in Maine after experiencing low blood pressure his spokesman John McGrath Jim a graph says he will likely remain in the hospital for a few days and that he's awake alert and not in pain the 41st president is spending the summer at the family compound in Kennebunkport his wife of 73 years Barbara died last month and the former president spent 13 days in a hospital in Houston for an infection soon after beaches along the eastern Gulf Coast normally packed with vacationers are largely empty as rain and wind from subtropical storm Elberta lashed the region the storm is still in the Gulf of Mexico moving northward Blake Farmer of member station land has more on a big weekend for the Gulf some sort of slow moving storm bearing down and decided to just stay home. Not Carol should Nara that lanta we may not run a vote. But as far as not coming we never this that never came up she says her crew will play games once the wind and rain gets too bad Florida Alabama and Mississippi of all declared states of emergency with 5 to 10 inches of rain possible tropical storm warnings are in effect 2 people are being warned to stay out of the water with dangerous surf and rip currents coming along with the 1st named storm of the year for n.p.r. News I'm Blake Farmer in St George Island Florida on this Memorial Day weekend thousands of motorcycle riders once again gathered in Washington d.c. For the 31st annual Rolling Thunder Ride the Memorial Day tradition is to highlight P.O.W.'s and M.I.A.'s who are still not accounted for from the Vietnam and other wars the groups say it's estimated that around $80000.00 military personnel from conflicts around the world are still unaccounted for a moral day honors the military men and women who died while serving the country this is n.p.r. News. At the box office this holiday weekend Star Wars Millennium Falcon is flying lower than expected N.P.R.'s Bob Mondello has more with solo a Star Wars story contributing overall movie box office for this Memorial Day weekend will top last year's by more than 25 percent but whatever force there is in those numbers is not coming from Solo which is flying substantially below projections that were already well below the numbers generated by the last Star Wars movie rogue one earned 155000000 dollars its opening weekend solo will have to struggle to reach 101000000 Why do you think a lot of what you know industry observers point to Solo's mixed reviews and 2 possible franchise fatigue with Disney releasing a new Star Wars movie every year the last jet I came out just 5 months ago so that was at least breaking the $100000000.00 mark and no film has done that on a Memorial Day weekend since 2014 Bob Mondello n.p.r. News Washington and after debuting with $125000000.00 Last weekend the r. Rated Ryan Reynolds sequel Deadpool to 66 percent this weekend with $42000000.00 us truly and will power as one the 102nd running of the Indy $500.00 his 1st win in unseasonably hot and humid weather the temperature hit $91.00 degrees that matches the 2012 race for the 2nd hottest race day temperature and Patrick's racing career ended with a wreck in turn 2 she had been running near the middle of the pack when she lost control coming to rest on the infield grass she shot to fame by finishing 4th at the race in 2005 I'm joining her 1st n.p.r. News in Washington support for n.p.r. Comes from n.p.r. Stations other contributors include Sierra Nevada Brewing Company family owned operated and argued over since 1980 proud supporter of Enda pendent thought whether that's online over the air or in a bottle more at Sierra Nevada dot com. On the next morning edition it was a week of uncertainty about the planned summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong un Thursday Trump cancel the meeting that was set for next month but then the president tweeted that he may reconsider and put it back on his schedule so what do key u.s. Allies make of all this back and forth and how might it change international relationships moving forward I'm Suzanne Watley join me for that story and more on the next Morning Edition from n.p.r. News 5 to 9 on 89.3. This is All Things Considered from n.p.r. News I'm Michel Martin we're going to start the program today with the weather the official start of the hurricane season is still a few days away but well the official start of the hurricane season is June 1st but we have a named storm outside of the hurricane season so you know. What's in a date it's here that's dentist felt kin of the National Hurricane Center Alberto is tracking toward the Gulf Coast and states of emergency have already been declared in Florida Alabama and Mississippi even though it's not a hurricane Philcon says the subtropical storm could be deadly one of the biggest threats from this storm is going to be the heavy rainfall or some areas could see a foot of rain that's very dangerous rainfall falling on an already saturated ground so the water will have no place to go but up to this all comes after last year's historic hurricane season hurricanes Harvey Maria and Nate caused damage from Central America to Texas and through the Caribbean damage that is still affecting many people's lives and that's one reason that next weekend we will be broadcasting this program from Puerto Rico we'll be hearing about the lingering impact from last year's hurricane season it will be asking if the island is ready for this year's But now we're turning to Jenny still ahead of it she covers the environment for the Miami Herald and she's going to bring us up to date Jenny thanks so much for talking with us thanks for having me so what are people expecting in Florida I understand the whole state is already under state of emergency that's right the entire state is but the focus has really shifted more to the Panhandle and the and the Gulf coast further up the state sort of north of Tampa and Fort Myers because it's so low lying over there because of the continental shelf there's a bigger risk of storm surge is actually a storm surge warning that stretches from north of Tampa all the way up into Pensacola and then there's a tropical storm warning that goes from about Fort Myers you know it's hard to understand it's hard to assess the the feelings of a whole state but are people feeling nervous especially after we. Everybody went through last year oh yes definitely I think that people are just it doesn't even seem like it's been a whole lot hasn't been a whole year of that that I think people are just like wow we can't believe hurricane season is here already again and people are still recovering from where it hit and the key is people are still waiting for female money so yeah there's definitely anxiety and aggravation Now this name storm is happening outside of the official hurricane season as we said What are you hearing from meteorologists about that well it is unusual at this point the latest advisory from the Hurricane Center has a lot of dry air around so they don't think it's going to end to a hurricane that even to get a tropical storm or at this case it still subtropical storm this early in the season is unusual I think they think it's transitioning into a tropical storm now which is just sort of technical weather speak but it can become a little bit more dangerous when it becomes better defined as a tropical storm so before we let you go what are you expecting for the rest of hurricane season and what are you thinking about so far. Well I mean I'm not looking forward to the body else's either but last week no issue there preseason forecast and they they're saying that it's going to be active not as bad as last year closer to normal but still active that is Jenny still in of it she covers the environment for the Miami Herald Jenny thanks so much for speaking with us thanks for having me now we're going to hear how parts of the West and Midwest are preparing for wildfire season fire managers have already started to set what are called prescribed burns fires that are set intentionally in a controlled area the idea is to clear the forest so that a fire spark up over the summer there's less fuel to burn but the deliberate fires happening now carry their own risks including the widespread and persistent smoke that comes with any large fire we have a report from 2 parts of the West and we started Northwest forest land with Jefferson Public Radio's Liam reality. I'm standing with John Larson on a steep slope in the Applegate valley of southern Oregon he's a fire specialist with the Bureau of Land Management overseeing a prescribed fire that's slowly burning through woody debris on the forest floor what we're looking at right here is a really light cool sort of under burn to reduce the finer fuels the fire isn't very hot but it's plenty smoky and Larson and I dog are stinging eyes and runny noses it's important to keep the fire under control accidents are rare but can be costly in 2000 a prescribed burn famously got out of control near Los Alamos New Mexico it burned nearly 80 square miles and destroyed several 100 homes Chris Chambers with the Ashland Oregon Fire Department helps direct a program to restore the 1st in watershed on the city's doorstep he says in a prescribed burn it's also important to control the smoke we're not doing it at times of the year where we know smoke is going to be a significant issue for the community or at least not on days when we know it will be so that we're trying to keep as much smoke away from the community as we possibly can Chambers also has to deal with air quality regulators who have final say over whether a burn can proceed based on predicted weather and they often give a last minute thumbs down as a result Chamber says there's about a 1000 acres he's ready to burn but can't we're held back by this management program at the state level and also just the fear that we're going to get smoke into town and it's going to cause issues aside from making the locals grouchy smoky aircon hurt ashlands tourism dependent economy but Chambers says that is a more natural fire ecology Israel stablished and as the climate continues to warm it's a clear choice and do or entire summers of wildfire smoke later or accept what is hopefully less smoke now from member station Cany you in Flagstaff Arizona I'm Melissa 70 Stephanie Schiff says that try. Paid off if it works is worth it she lives in a small community south of Flagstaff surrounded by overgrown forests of ponderosa pine there's a street behind us and then a row of houses on the other side of the street and then that's forest so forest ever did go crazy and I'm right here but she is more affected by smoke than most people she's had asthma since childhood she keeps a to go bag packed with the nebulizer and medicine to help her breathe the 1st time that I was in a prescribed burn was last fall and I didn't go out in the morning and my husband took the dogs and he came back in the house and said pack up or leaving there's all kinds of smoke people with asthma lung disease or heart conditions can land in the hospital on Smokey days wildland firefighters to are at risk for developing chronic respiratory problems but Michael Vaughan of the Coconino National Forest says Smoke is the price of fixing up the forest we do the best we can and we're trying to reduce fuel so that these communities can stay safe been passed out flyers outside a tiny general store near Flagstaff a prescribed burn smoldered near by he was warning residents to stay indoors if they could if their news really sensitive they may have to leave the area for a couple days of all the smoke clears Nobody's happy about that solution but says this is what it means to live in a forest where fire happens one way or another. For n.p.r. News I'm Melissa 70 in Flagstaff and I'm Liam Moriarty in Ashland Oregon now to Hawaii where the images coming from the volcanic eruption on Hawaii's big island are spectacular and heartbreaking more than 80 buildings have been destroyed by the gushing and flowing lava smaller eruptions continue to punch plumes of ash into the sky but for most people on the Big Island the lava and ash are actually far away Closer is the impact the eruption is having on the island's tourist dependent economy N.P.R.'s Nathan Rott has this report. On a normal weekend the parking lot outside of the lava rock cafe would be a buzz tour buses would be dropping off visitors fresh off their visit to neighboring Volcanoes National Park a lava tube plate lunch a cinder cone side the adjacent stores would be ringing up post cards and kill away a key change this weekend oh yeah. Nothing like regular time it's. A Dell trip is the manager here and she says business as come to a near halt ever since the recent eruption and a partial closure of the National Park the biggest tourist destination in the state the volcano is a huge draw we need it to be just enough crazy but not too quick and right now is too much crazy trip says they're cutting hours at the shops a couple of restaurants just down the road they're going to close for 3 weeks or until further notice they're just going to fall on shit this is. Because they can't afford to keep their people working when you only have a few customers coming in the physical effects of the volcano and lava flows are only being felt on a small corner of this roughly 4000 square mile big island even here in the town called you know only about a 10 minute drive from the actual crater it really seems like just another day. But the economic impacts of the eruption are being felt island I can see just around town that it's a lot quieter tailing a lot of. Businesses and people are thinking in that right now Natalie some Pio is the owner of here ocean adventures a snorkel and scuba outfitter about 30 miles from the volcano some pile store like many here in Hilo rely on cruise ships for a lot of their income and since eruption those cruise ships have stopped coming to port in the economy an estimated $3000000.00 through July. Is one of the employees here people are under the impression that. You know really this is just. How all of the whining. Here this frustration all over the big island many people here blame the over excited news coverage tourism officials say the booking pace for the summer has slowed by almost 50 percent people are canceling hotel stays and conferences fishing trips and bike tours but argue there are still plenty to do. Here that at the Kona International Airport on the other side of the island more than 100 miles away from the volcano Kathy Fisher is getting ready to fly back to Madison Wisconsin after a week long trip to the mainland effects is probably the thought of the volcanic fog which happens all the time here just more so now and we're planning on you know why in sunsets and all that stuff it was pretty much just like a fade to gray and I. Other than that the much no effect the north side of the island was fine she says the water was nice and hey she says it's a little less crowded than it would be otherwise Nathan Rott n.p.r. News volcano Hawaii. Siddur from n.p.r. 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News I'm Michel Martin Reverend Rob Schenck was once a high profile figure in the militant battle against abortion a master of provocative tactics such as displaying fetal remains and blocking clinics now though he's parted ways with many fellow evangelical ministers and taken his pro-life message to the fight to reduce gun violence Reverend Shank's life has been a winding spiritual journey he was born into a Jewish family but he and his twin brother Paul accepted Christianity as teenagers this is where Reverend Schenck begins his new memoir costly grace and evangelical ministers rediscovery of faith hope and love when he came into the studio last week I asked what he and his brother were looking for when they converted you know I think as all people do I was looking for meaning something beyond the kind of 2 dimensional existence that we all share I was looking for some contact with the transcendent with something beyond ourselves but I was just as much looking for a surrogate family because at the time my family was dysfunctional and there was a lot of conflict and tension in my family and it kind of left me feeling like I didn't have a communal anchor you were on the front lines of the battle against abortion rights you participated in Operation Rescue blocking women's access to clinics in your book you graphically describe how you used fetuses as protest props you and your brother at one point were both arrested you both wound up in jail for that but you also talk in the book about how you never really thought about the women and their circumstances the fear on their faces or what brought them to that place I'm curious about that particular as a person who was led to faith by empathy right you know. Set up the book and. 3 conversions there was my 1st conversion to Christ the Jesus I met through the Sermon on the Mount that's very compassionate and but phatic soul and then I had a 2nd conversion and that was to what I call Reagan Republican religion and during that phase I really lost that dimension of Jesus that empathized with others that felt the anguish of others and I had to be brought back to it and that's the story of my 3rd conversion I think some people who know of you may think that the reason that you got interested in gun control was because of 2 doctors who performed abortions were both murdered as a result of their work but that's not really true no I was distressed by both of those events but mostly because they damaged the reputation of the movement so how did you get interested in the question of guns and what your role as evangelical clergy and as an evangelical leader should be in addressing the issue of gun violence in this country well since since you mention empathy there was a moment in 2006 when I was called by a benefactor to the organization I was heading at that time who employed. A woman whose son. Had murdered 5 school girls in their schoolhouse and I was called to that emergency and I was deeply deeply affected by that but I would compartmentalize that again for a number of years into the future and it wouldn't be until much later when a mass shooting occurred in my own neighborhood here in Washington d.c. Within sight of my living room window 12 people died at the at the Naval Yard and I felt that and finally I met Lucy make bath whose son Jordan Davis had been murdered in front of a convenience store in Florida. And I saw her heart her eyes the pain in her mother's soul and those things as well as others which would pull me across the finish line calling into question my own evangelicals community's passion for 2nd Amendment unfettered gun rights I thought that was really the sign of a deep spiritual failing in our community so this kind of gets to the question I think a lot of people have why is it that white evangelical Christians are so connected to this question of gun ownership and gun rights to to stick they are far more likely to be gun owners Why is that well I did want to ask that question and I became more and more curious about it and I was shocked at what I found I was talking with colleagues I'm a minister and I had many pastor friends who were now arming in the pulpit one of my longtime friends told me that somebody after stands up in my congregation and makes a sound he'll be sorry he ever did because I'll take him out right from the pulpit when I heard that I said we have a deep crisis in our community and I went looking what is this that has brought us to a place of embracing popular gun culture. And what I learned was 1st of all there is a deep and abiding fear within my community of fear of persecution by the federal government and that many of my colleagues and friends and the folks in the churches that I visited would tell me if we don't have guns we won't be able to defend ourselves against the government when they come after us. There is a kind of fierce independence among evangelicals and so I think it is part of the sort of Wild West you know independent American culture woven into our Christian culture and there may even be something more sinister I was in one encounter with a group of clergy in Kentucky and I asked how many of you are armed and every one of the 20 or so around that table were armed and I asked them you know it soon as you draw the weapon you're ready to kill when do you make that decision and there was a lot of hemming and hawing and uncomfortable body language and finally a gentleman maybe in his mid sixty's quietly ventured an answer and he said well I'll have to tell you the truth about that that would have to do with a man's skin color. One of the reasons that you're such an interesting figure is that you are actually connected to or have worked with some of the most prominent evangelical figures in the news today Roy Moore for example an associate of yours j. Secular one of the president's lawyers you know all these folks so the question is Why do you think that you've taken such a different path you know sometimes the paths we take in life are inscrutable You know I don't know all the unseen factors here I still believe in Providence I think I've met the right people at the right time in the right places to help me find my way out of what I call the dark wood period of my life when I was disoriented spiritually ethically certainly if not morally. And given the same set of encounters that I've had along the path in my life especially in the last 10 years or so I think some of those people perhaps those you even named would take the same course that I've taken but but they haven't had those same encounters so they haven't reacted to those same encounters in the way that I have. That's the Reverend Rob Schenck his new book is called costly grace and even Jellicoe ministers rediscovery of faith hope and love that book is out next month thanks so much for speaking with us thank you on this Memorial Day weekend we are highlighting films coming out on Monday that focus on the experiences of military service members yesterday we told you about a documentary about the former naval war hero p.o.w. And u.s. Senator John McCain today we want to tell you about jazz booth and 2005 Army major jazz both had lost most of her belongings in Hurricane Katrina she was undergoing treatment for an aggressive form of cancer she was facing discharge from the military and she had nowhere to go with her young son when she reached out for help she was told over and over again that there were no programs to support female veterans in her circumstances after 5 years of struggle she managed to get back on her feet but she decided that wasn't enough so she founded a group called Final Salute to help other women like her particularly women veterans in need of safe and affordable housing and she decided that wasn't enough either so she founded the Ms Veteran America contest highlight military women a documentary followed the competition and now it's the subject of a new film called serve like a girl it tells the stories of some of the women who competed in the pageant along with their stories about serving their country and jazz booth is with us now from our n.p.r. Bureau in New York welcome thank you so much for joining us now thank you fact Kennedy so 1st of all why the military why the army What attracted you to the service to begin with yeah I am I was born and raised in a project ago and that was it many opportunities for me role models in an area and so I needed obvious wanted to have a. A you know a career that my children can be proud of and also you know do something to show people that you know come from poverty your life circumstances that whatever you set your mind to and whatever you work hard for and you know you can accomplish and so the military was definitely challenging but it was also to me you know one of the most on a bone career is you could have things kind of I don't know how can I put it they went bad for you so I was training to head Thai Rak and I had just had a station at the Navy support activity in New Orleans when I got called up for deployment and saw Hurricane Katrina hit while I was a point in August and I lost everything I owned and then ever see they had their cancer diagnosis 30 days after Katrina. That's what that would've been a lot for anybody to deal with but then. You went for help I mean you went to see what resources were available I think many people have this kind of. Belief Let's say that there is a lot of support available for service members and for veterans particularly people facing a health challenge and that is not what you found out in fact let me just play a clip from the film where you talk about the fact that you went to the v.a. To ask for help for you and for your child and then you were told that the services didn't apply to you that there really was nothing for you that you only call you qualified for food stamps and some cash but if so let me just play that clip from when I get into my country I work 300 hours a month. How do I go from being a lieutenant in the Army where you give me lodging you give me food you give me food and you give me all this resources and in the blink of an eye homeless I don't qualify for nothing and there's an invisible for me and it's strictly because of my gender Why is that that there was nothing for you now when I went to the v.a. Of course there were there were medical services available but I specifically needed housing because I was homeless and jobless and unemployed and they couldn't see me as a soldier on. They saw was me with as a woman with the illegitimate child and thought that welfare would be best for me and so that's what they directed me to and I did end up on welfare food stamps and sleeping on my aunt's couch which no one who's raised their right hand in service of this country whether male or female that should never be an option that they have to you know partake. Ok so the euro project Final Salute I think people may know about it you've gotten a lot of attention it's been lauded by Oprah and c.n.n. Heroes but why a beauty pageant film is found in America is in a beauty pageant and you know it's a competition it honors our service and I sacrifice but also reminds everyone that we are women mothers who are sisters wives and us and we want to take you know a different approach to advocacy and I want to play a clip from some of the people who are featured in this film the 1st one is Lieutenant Commander Rachel Engler She's a 2nd generation Navy both her mother and her father such as a former n.f.l. Cheerleader she's a dancer she's a registered nurse I just want to play a little clip from her that I missed my mom when I was young I remember the day that she 1st left for deployment and I remember being in the living room and she just kneeled down to me and she was bawling her eyes out and I was crying stand in line. For 2 hours to try and call us. Is this really difficult to grow up without her mom and I joined the Navy thinking I had to leave everything behind and thinking that I could end where lipstick anymore or proud of being a woman you know I'm saying now I can't be a woman I can be feminine anymore and so I kind of pushed away all my dancing as you can see regardless of our backgrounds the narrative is the saying you know having to give up your femininity you know having having to put things that are seen as one mainly you know in a box or serve your country or in a military you know. Votto and manliness is celebrated but you know femininity is seen as a sign of a you know a weakness or a hinderance for how we're able to. Serve our country which you know is not the case that's major jazz spoof she is an Army veteran Major I know it's controversial but if I may thank you for your service not controversial thank you the film served like a Girl premieres on p.b.s. On Monday you want to check your local listings for exact times and it's available for online viewing beginning the following day and you both thank you so much for speaking with us thank you very much for your technique. You're listening to All Things Considered from n.p.r. News. For months we've been hearing about the sweeping reforms launched in Saudi Arabia by its 32 year old Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salma on what's been described as a liberalization program includes lifting the ban on women driving starting next month so it came as a surprise to many people anyway to learn last week that Saudi security forces had arrested at least 10 activists most of them campaigners for women's rights Amnesty International reports for have since been released we want to understand what seems like a contradiction so we called Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi he's been living in the United States in self-imposed exile for the past year he wrote about this latest development in the Washington Post you told me that one of the activists who was detained is in her sixty's and another is 70 years old they are the ladies who but disappeared into finished Bush for woman drive in in 1990 and it took everybody by surprise them and it was totally unneeded under Sicily did it because in no position under the Act to be celebrated what are the charges against him and how serious is what they were charged with the charges are serious they were cold take this and some of the media the government media outlets their pictures were posted on a get off the world straight in the tick splashed on the front of the Fishes there's 2 sinks that have been an unusual foothold yet t.v. I've been living all my life in Saudi Arabia tourist ladies that is unfaired often sold yet even under special it is 6070 years old and I don't think this may have come in in my talking as an idiot of a newspaper but with someone get to this did we just report the news but we don't allow anyone to go and attack him or criticize him or declared him as a threat so you see that this is an intentional effort to publicly shamed him and to publicly identify them yes it's not only them it is just to make all of us chief all of it immediate and I founded video and still to needed it is no position movement. Saudi Arabia did independent voice useful hole of calling for reform but how do you understand this then I mean how do you reconcile this with what we knew or what we thought we knew about the crown prince particularly given that he had recently been on a kind of a tour to the United States and also some European capitals talking about his reforms he's given a number of interviews about his intention to allow women to attend sporting events permitting women to drive starting next month how do you understand these arrests with this campaign of liberalization that the crown prince has been touting so publicly I think the message he's sending to all of us and sold yet even a duck I don't allow a new form of to visit. Even if you agree with me even if you push for reform and you want women's empowerment and you want women driving a new you want to limit to sort of 2 of that it is just established meant and police you have to do that within me within the system within the government so the message that had been sent last week that I don't allow activism even if it allows with murder for the reformer I am the giver and I am the one who will lead this country to the future and I don't need anybody's help is it possible that this is reflective of some kind of a power struggle no no the power struggle is over he's totally in control and he has no one to challenge his rules that is true because Shockey he is a Saudi journalist living in the United States he was kind of to join us in our studios in Washington d.c. Thank you so much for speaking like yours. This is n.p.r. 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Sanctions on Venezuela will continue until democracy returns to the country the comes after American Josh will hold jailed without trial for 2 years in Venezuela was released and returned to the u.s. This weekend widespread protests in Nicaragua continued today as demonstrators demanded the resignation of President Daniel. And his wife the vice president at least 8 people died this weekend in clashes with security forces and the Indiana science teacher credited for stopping Friday's shooting inside his classroom has been released from the hospital Jason seaman was shot 3 times while tackling the armed student the other person shot a female student is said to be in critical but stable condition I'm joining her n.p.r. News in Washington. Support for n.p.r. Comes from this station and from Babble a European made language learning program babble teaches practical conversation in a talian Russian Swedish and other languages available in the app store or online at b a b b e l dot com. 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News I'm Michel Martin as we said at the beginning of the program this Friday marks the official start to the 2018 hurricane season the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicts an average season or slightly above average but that is little comfort to those still rebuilding and repairing after last year's major storms in the Caribbean Florida and Texas putting Rico was hit particularly hard by the back to back storms Irma and Maria last September the Puerto Rican government was already in the middle of a financial crisis and was not prepared to deal with a natural disaster of this magnitude without electricity running water or phone service much of Puerto Rico was cut off from the rest of the world in the weeks that it took for the federal government to launch a response and get emergency supplies to the island with the next hurricane season on its way we want to know how much of the island has recovered since Maria and how prepared is put a recall for the next storm next weekend we'll try to answer those questions when we broadcast all things considered live from San Juan we'll speak with local government and fema officials and with business owners artists and community members who've been working hard to solve the problems that Hurricane Maria created and to build resilience and learn from their experiences of the storm and its aftermath today we'll hear about one initiative to share lessons learned the mayor exchange program pairs mayors from mainland u.s. Cities with mayors in Puerto Rico to form a dialogue about disaster preparedness and response Robbie Bala just got back from his Puerto Rican exchange trip last week he's the mayor of Hoboken New Jersey and he's with us now from his home on this holiday weekend Mr Mayor thank you so much for speaking with us and thank you Michel for having me on now you just got back from Puerto Rico would you tell us a little bit about the area that you visited I understand it went to the Alabama sure yet is a small municipality about 2 hours by car from San Juan it's literally in the center of the island. Is. About 37 acres in land and has a population of about 24000 people and that's where we had our site visit and so what are the challenges that you or your opposite numbers is facing there what are they still dealing with well you know is a island of $78.00 minus allergies so you have 70 mayors competing for a limited amount of resources so it's important for each of the mayors to do 2 things one Identify creative ways to get there or municipality on the radar so to speak with the federal government with female with Hud with the Department of Energy and number 2 it's important for them to realize that they're not in isolation and it's important to take a collaborative approach and see where there are opportunities to pool resources to increase efficiencies as well you are among a number of mayors from u.s. Mainland cities that are traveling you know to put it on you're going to invite your counterparts back to the mainland at some point is that you've been through this yourself and you were not mayor when Hurricane Sandy struck the northeast but you were living in Hoboken the time you were involved in city government could you just talk about whether you saw any similarities or differences sure you know I was on the city council in 2012 when Hurricane Sandy hit so we were on the front lines along with the mayor in terms of disaster recovery it was a chaotic and hectic process people did not know exactly what the proper protocols war the procedures were so part of the program is to really make sure that mayors and populations understand that they are not alone that we here in the u.s. Mayors of cities that have gone through similar experiences we're here to help them What are some of the things that you saw. In Puerto Rico when you were there and didn't remind you of the days in the weeks after Hurricane Sandy hit Hoboken can kind of help me see a little bit better sure you know we went to a region that was run by mountains and rivers so you saw the impacts of mudslides rooftops with the you know even 8 months after that. You still see them and. So to speak and you know one thing I told the mayor was there were a reimbursement forms processed by Fema in Hoboken 6 years later we're still in the process of closing out some of those project work sheets for reimbursement for our mark in Sandy damage so I think I hear you saying is that the recovery lasts far longer than maybe anybody would ever have imagined correct you know that's not the most optimistic news we can deliver to but we want to be realistic as well and so it's important to think short term long term in terms of self what makes this town 2 hours in live in Puerto Rico stand to make it a city where the federal government would want to invest actual dollars and that's where he's the mayor of Hoboken New Jersey he just got back from an exchange in Puerto Rico Mr Mayor thank you so much for speaking with us My pleasure thank you very much. Let's go back to 2002 for a minute. By the rap duo clips one of the biggest hits of the year. One of the $100.00 greatest hip hop songs of all time. Clips was comprised of Terrence Thornton and as a group they were lauded and at times criticized for what became their signature emotionally. Gripping narratives about the drug trade Fast forward to the present Terence Thornton better known as Pusha t. Has gone solo he is president of Kanye West's record label good music he's made a name for himself as a political activist and he has a new album that just dropped Friday it's called Daytona and here's where it gets even more interesting within hours of Pusha T.'s new album coming out the rapper Drake delivered a single of his own responding to a track he interpreted as an insult or a distract the 2 have been trading insults on social media to the point where it's been a trending topic in the u.s. All weekend if you follow this so far anyway with all of that there is an album and we talked about it with Pusha t. On Friday Mr Terrence Thornton Pusha t. Thanks so much for speaking with us you don't what do you prefer that I call you by the way you know let's go a Pusha t. For n.p.r. Ok call me Pusha pusher Ok Yeah well let me start with the beginnings is there something in the water in Virginia Beach that 1st song of yours was produced by for real Williams who yes people know is one of the biggest names in music his song Happy has spawned music videos from all over the world Missy Elliott you all from Virginia Beach what was going on down there that all of you came out of that space during that time I would have to say that the 757 that's what we call it the Hampton Roads area it was just a hot bed in a melting pot of a whole bunch of different influences you have the military so you brought a lot of different musical influences there you have the beach that made it attractive for out of towners to con a lot of New York and Florence is ultimately Teddy Riley super producer extraordinaire he came to Virginia Beach you know in that was our 1st sighting of light all way to me you can really make it in the music industry so was it like a kind of a Motown situation did his place become kind of a hangout for people who wanted to learn the business to try things or well it wasn't really a hangout we used to get chased off the grounds all the time what happened was him . Is studio was right next to 4 rails high school and for real want to talent show that he judged and that's how we began to get access into what it was called Future records well. Where you know what I write what a lot of people don't understand is that everything else is basically homegrown I actually lived one mile from for oh Williams And Chad Hugo who are the Neptunes maybe a mile and a half from Temple and Missy Elliott was cross town we all lived very very very close how did you and your brother decide on your sound like what was going to be your message how did that come about me and my brother are known for lyric driven hip hop the hip hop that we grew up on basically told the stories of what was going on outside at the time that's how we learned in those of the rules that we followed you know when you talk about the you know late eighty's early ninety's mid ninety's in Virginia you know beautiful place but there was also a pretty big drug culture there as well well the thing as I said earlier that people noted about the work at the time and still do is that you told The Good The Bad and The Ugly I mean that there were aspects of like the fame and the glory but also the fact that there was no good ending to this right there and the emotional you know that was something that was really I think really fresh and new the emotional toll it was very honest you know it wasn't outward directed was very interactive to you right for sure I mean you know we're telling the story you have to tell the whole story rap music hip hop culture is usually about truth well let's play something from the new album that kind of speaks to that let's get into the games we play Ok. Drug abuse is we're going to give them another kind of. Thing I love. This so you know. He's good. It's just like above when you. Talk to me you know Daytona as a album and it's it is definitely a masterpiece body of work for deuced from top to bottom by Kanye West I think Me and Kanye have a musical marriage that has really really you know I feel on this project and really show how strong it is. Because that in the phrase that's the bottle service the words. This is. Why do you think you 2 work so well together I feel like we work together because I feel like he's a fan 1st of me and my lyricism you know he's genius level at production and he knows how I sound best when you know I'm going to ask because you know you're no stranger to politics during the 2016 presidential election you joined a number of high profile hip hop artists and supporting Hillary Clinton she even hosted a contest to meet you. When at the same time of course you know Kanye your close collaborator or I say your boy your has caused a lot of controversy with his comments about President Trump and so tell me what is what I want to know the dynamic you know I want to know what's the dynamic and how do you understand where he is well I don't think I don't understand where he is and his political views this is one of many things that we disagree on you know wholeheartedly and that's fine you know I feel like that's another reason why we work together I'm also the president of his company for that same reason I bring of the aspects I bring of the point of views to the table all the time but. You know that's something that we're not going to see eye to eye on well let me play from let me play a song off the new album what would make do and it features Kanye west of here yeah yeah here to. Day to see that it would. Place the goal weight. Get the server get it. Dead. To do you think it would love to do it. Do you. Let it slide like that. Right Ok help me out here right what is going on he's posing the question if you want driving while black will they stop you or will they let me off because I have on a mag I have let me slide like a drive through for him it's just a hack that's how he looks at it from me you know I tell him that I had it represents everything that's wrong you know he'll argue with me and say man I'm given the head too much power and I'll tell him Hey man the head is the new k.k.k. Hood to me before we let you go are a couple questions 1st of all how do you think you've changed since those early days you have a very sophisticated life now you have multiple responsibilities and you're still functioning as an artist how do you think you have changed yeah the maturation of Pusha t. Like you know it's no longer just pushing t. The young brash rappers is pushing t.v. Executive you know when you when you asked me what should I call you I started to say Mr thought and as I said I like that but you know because on the album mode we're going to go Pusha t. But you know on the executive and I feel like. I feel like this is my calling and this is how you're supposed to mature in the rap game and be helpful in pushing the culture forward and the young artist as well the final cut on this album to Daytona is in for it I want to play a little bit and there will be a lot of bleep in this fellow let me just turn to work around did you know that was going to the message Ok here it is again. This beat you did it deliberately who are trying to really mean the bigger question is how the way he did it it was really like you know came to me at the mercy of the game with his Missy with the cd both blinded by the glow to flee is a lot going on here you know I was rapping alongside you has you heard who are you talking to here this was in response to a Drake record that it came out a little while ago called 2 birds one stone where he questioned my authenticity to the streets and you know people have been waiting you know for me to reply back to that song and so forth and you know when you think about it that's not a conversation I really feel like I want to have but since he posed the question I just spoke my truth and regards to it and how I see him because you know then I mean allegations you know there are real ghost writing you know proof that he you know he doesn't write his rhymes so when I say when I say. The lyric painting is equal to trump when you know like Trump stole the election he cheated the bigger question is how the Russians did it. It was written like novels but he came from Quentin which is a ghost writer. And hip hop man this is what you do like people call you out and you wary eager to see the foundation robot is there so much there's so much else going on in the world is this really worth your time oh well you know that there are there is a competitive artistic you know quality to the game and it's fine that's you know it's not a big deal. But it sounds like that might raise my game like a bank that is pushing Terrence Thornton we are talking about his latest album Daytona right he joined us from our studios in New York City Pusha t. Mr Thornton thank you so much for speaking with us and thank you. Come to let me come what should be done is remove the substance to say put the. Letters from now do you know what that played out who or Sunday that is All Things Considered from n.p.r. News I'm Michel Martin We're back next Saturday and we will be broadcasting from San Juan Puerto Rico and we hope you'll follow us on Twitter at n.p.r. A.t.c. Thanks for listening have a great week see. Support for n.p.r. Comes from this station and from Log Me and makers of Go To Meeting a collaborative meeting platform with over 18000000 monthly users designed to connect people from anywhere in the world on any device learn more it go to meeting dot com. And from eternity Gardens a resource for individuals and families who have chosen cremation offering connections to cemeteries and service providers where the remains of loved ones and pets can be laid to rest learn more at eternity gardens dot com. That used. To be really useful to. Donate to us and we'll turn it into a trustworthy independent journalism pick it up and handle all the details you make public radio possible. 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