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The 1st battles of World War 2 started in conduct square Germany 1st attacked poll 41 years later demonstrations in the same city in the shipyard started the end of Soviet communism in just a bit we'll see how today's kid on disk is a growing visitor destination also mark the 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin wall here how Germany has changed since then let's start today's travel with Rick Steves with a look at the town Vincent Van Gogh immortalized Our it to unpretentious laid back base for exploring the scenic Provence region of southern France and it's where our guide to Nina s.f. Was out he calls home. Thanks for joining us messy now Nina I believe you're Danish your name doesn't sound Danish or French at and you weren't in the south of France so what's the story well I was born in Copenhagen Denmark you know and then I look enough met this young France boy you know and married him and actually moved to have you know in France and he was not he is this if he's out there that I didn't feel that is fair to Tony which is quite typical for because in that part of France there's a lot of to tell you not a lot of times you know well it's Spanish on one side Italian from the other side immigrants from all over when people say your name I just gotta tell you and but people in the south of France would they think they are likely to be French exactly because you do have a lot of that those Italian immigrants and their names are just that they're in the 19th century different parts and in the area between France and Italy got to vote where would they stay as it was United like you and your area voted to stay with France rather than join Italy now we're talking about Providence you know there's a famous books written that are so romantic and you know Americans just dream of going having you know here in Provence or whatever it's a little confusing to me because France has this situation like it's all Paris or the country so I don't know exactly how do you define the region of Providence thing but that's the interesting thing right because it has become more a concept that you know anything else what is pulled well if you. Geographically speaking where you have the roll rhythm the West and the low out so in a war zone it's really only eastern Mediterranean south right is kind of what we think about when we say the South of France on except for the Cote the friends that are here exactly there is the French Riviera and there is problems and when we think of provides I think of the Rhone reverse of that wonderful why and I think of our all Avignon Exxon provides and what I think of mostly is this idea of Providence All right. This is what we mean when something is even Francis said he says or that's problems all that can be fashion that can be cuisine I could be a lot of different things going to put a lifestyle right it's like all of the laid back like maybe in southern parts of United States Yeah we don't know that it's later laid back the draw you have all of that and the reasons are fascinated by it and have been for elevated only time I had but interestingly in America you've got this north going are more laid back you know Italy of course the matter of the subsidizing the south in Germany where I Well listen it probably people all this a-K. Does and the northern French the aunts the hard work you know kind of people in those in the south where they do have it also why rub their brother and they're going to get hammered out of nowhere in the case like hey that yeah I think that's a crazy idea create Yeah yeah so if I'm sitting in provides Here's my image to provide sitting in a beautiful little town I don't care but the name cute little sleepy town plain trees providing shade as they have for generations the kind of nice capacities and they smoke well and pretty and I hear the chickadees and that's just what he said but I could see Kate as his accuser because he has yes and also when we think of provides rethinking of the garden the market beautiful produce wonderful records to post that's very often what I tell people is that we so pretty in that area because we have the fruit and vegetables growing the rule side I would go. And I mean when you have a hotter to eat for instance you have the local writer to it that would be like we think that's like French but it really is problem thought it is more because it see the eggplant and these are keenly and I mentioned and this is a challenge for a lot of American travelers not to order their favorite cocktail but to become a cultural chameleon I don't crave a pasties unless I'm in the countryside of France in the south where people have that as part of the tempo of their day and what is a pest and what does that mean to the people of problems what it's like to do this before lunch or before did not drink it's has that white collar or transparent color when you get it from the bottle why don't you poor watering it and lots of people try to top sward up but that's not for beginners do not be shy about putting more water on it because they're all different and know him and them and whenever you know you have to like liquors and that is true you have to enjoy it and it's quite strong right so that half of it yeah you got to be careful because you could buy them at the lake. And just across the square you might see some of the older men playing Patel talking yeah that's to me very problem solved but it's a funny thing is that because there's a funny story about how that version of the game was invented where there was a gentleman sitting in the wheelchair and the original game was that you jumped 3 times and threw the ball like you have bought your poll right here that he can't do that so what do you do is when he sits in his will and he's a rose so now we have the Pete Tong Pete Tong feet together which means that you stand and throw you don't need to be out of that job and it's too hot in the south to come 3 times that's you know that I think you know I'm very touched by that and my father just passed away this last year and her last moments in his last months we used to play talk in the living room and sitting in his chair. Oh yeah and I didn't realize to talk talk it was designed a long way yeah but actually then you have the 2nd challenge in that regime that you're not jumping you're just going go beyond that and what can you have in the other hand. What I did to put a little because this is the perfect i wish i had planned on it doesn't lie do whatever you prefer but now you're playing your petang can on your with your grandpa who's sitting in a chair and he can still play but talk and it's windy and about as famous for its when very famous infamous. City because the Mr and I get all confused about it because it has been books written about right and it was a t.v. Series with Mr Khan is this when that is both bad and good because we are actually in a situation like creates a dry climate it changes the way the clouds and pollution why it's so yeah keying in a stroller there's different kinds of wind what distinguishes So no they said Northern way and meaning it's coming down for anything bad comes from the north when you live in the south right but this is an exception that's good then you can also choose a way you need to take my so we have that keen blue sky and that incredible colors travel expert Nina Cephas out he has called the South of France her home for the last 30 years she's our guide to provide right now and travel with Rick Steves. For numbers 877-333-7425 Max on the phone from Libertyville in Illinois Matt thanks for your call or Hi Rick thanks for having me I am lucky you know our family is going to be taking a trip and we're going to be spending about 10 days in France so after a few days in Paris we're heading down to provide and I guess my question is with my daughters and Co ages 7 and other certain cities that we shouldn't mess like maybe i would your honor our our needs and also if there's any specific experience that we need to look into New know what some good advice for a family with a couple of smaller kids well I would say what friends are passing through having you know obviously the see quite impressive Castle which is at the pope's Palace 1005 in your home and it has a very good high tech kind of tablet that yes who are with you. And there's very likely a children's version of exactly they're always special and that the French are so good at making their historic sites student friendly and child friendly with techie little tablets and apps and so on where the kids can make it a treasure hunt so I would do that post partisan with the version that is for children throughout the post as you don't about the pope's use things I yak under the pond to guard. That's the great thing to do when your teacher gets Roman history backing down the well isn't that is incredible when you're in the kayak is that you you drive up to a certain point or you kayak and then you have that moment of you can picnic by the banks of the running of the god all that the ponder and you can wear your denim pants in. Order to tell them well because in the moment if you think about the name Niemen and you take the word they'd name that the Pats I made off right so that's an elaborate the name it's the name of. Yeah and then they say that the word genes is because it was essentially right then it was essentially made for ships and sails Yeah and what was the one of the main harbors on that coast there was general how do you say Jed over in France Zen g.e. Any is that where genes come from genes I might just be able to do yeah Ok well there's a lot of ways to teach your kid and one good way to teach your kids when you're traveling in Providence in r.l. There's a wonderful folk music. And in there you can learn all about how people raised their kids centuries ago opening up again actually after renovation but probably not before the end of this year but you could go to the Roman History Museum and see that incredible Bartsch that know that a river and you know is that it's really interesting that when you go to the Roman museum it's just on the edge of town in r.l. They've got all of the amazing Roman sites they've reconstructed them in little model so you can envision how all of these engineering marvels of the Roman empire like the 30 mile long aqueduct executive at the border guard. Has made all these movies so wonderful wonderful history class are there out there is that to get lots of people about kayaking upon the Guard or touring the ground of those the infrastructure set up and if it were up to 5 people to help us with that I would say it's very very easy but you can you can go to the tourist office they can give you information they're a very helpful people have to say that's one of the great highlights anybody can do it just a leisurely paddle down you going down this amazing river and then you're going under them the most impressive Roman structure and it's the biggest Roman bridge I think anywhere that arch another thing from a parenting and teaching point of view when you go to name I think the most beautifully preserved Roman building is there Maison Kerry and also the arena is there where they still have events concerts and so on and I was just there last year and they're opening the new museum right across the street and how is that because you live in an area yeah you know I live close to. That in the man has this incredible history right there in front of us you know. The temple but then they open up right this year this new Roman History Museum which is obviously a little competition with. But it's not really in a state of the art and it's a credible architecture from the outside and inside have beautiful collection met Thanks for your call and have a great trip with your family thank you so much I'm so excited thank you are you bet this is travel with Rick Steves from talking about provide us with our friend and tour guide Nina said. Let's finish our discussion very quickly I'm just going to say the name of the great city and you're going to say one sentence about how you would describe it what's unique about that city our little town beautiful atmosphere vagal and go yes that's the Van Gogh trail Avignon I mean you know pope's of course for a century there were 2 popes and one of them was in France and everyone in his huge palace is still there we've talked about name what about x on provide sophistication money beautiful women. And one French word I know 10 dogs What does that mean Tom Vosa trend right Randi Randi Randi. Thanks so much for joining us and even as I like your abs. Sailin the get out after stopping in Germany that's next on travel with Rick Steves swear at 877333 Rick. Thanksgiving is a time for gathering to eat way too much food and you don't want to miss anything to eat or sleep. Late winter trying to keep up with the news can leave you worried that you'll miss something too but n.p.r. 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It was 30 years ago November 9th 1989 when the world saw defiant protesters chipping away at him all but divided Berlin for nearly 3 decades the Soviet East and the oppressive government that enforced it we're now history we're joined now by 3 German tour guides from Burnett to tell us how their world has changed in the last 30 years over Timur Carroll even Marburger and Torben Brown take your calls in just a bit at 877-333-7425 but let's start with another big anniversary Germany has been celebrating this year it's 100 years since the founding of the Bauhaus art school it influences on modern design remain all around us today at least that's what I'm told. Can you explain to us what our house is all about you know well it's it's a concept that was kind of new a time when it really also comes I mean to open it open shop in April 1900 in Weimar like in a little tiny place you know in in the middle of Germany as well and it was kind of like after this tragedy of the 1st World War to rethink art rethink craft and try to bring things together so really was basically a school for having artists working together with Craftsman and influencing each other and trying to find new ways of design new ways of building of aka texture because after World War one in the horrors of the Western Front in the battle in the trenches and all that there was a sort of angry angsty filled expressionism but Bauhaus I don't feel like that is a new fresh beginning simple straight you know just kind of rethink everything and bring it down to the basics and away like you know a new design new forms of forms and and not just you know building new houses which the Bauhaus kind of means you know I think modern square or practical efficiently architecture but also like to rethink and like theatre art so they'd invented they were working with photography they were working with opera a new stage designs and. Quite an influential thing and I think what people maybe don't really know it's not just a German phenomenon because well. You know the school was moved it was changed and then in the end when it was in Berlin in the 1930 s. The Nazis closed down in 133 and a lot of people who were teaching there also were students there would emigrate subsequently quite often to the states and like you if you think about this you know Black Mountain College that is something where a lot of people from the Bahamas went to so there's a tradition that still lives on and actually in America you know of those people who with their influential new ideas new design some people went to work on for Disney later on are some went to work for NASA so there is an impact here in the States so we're talking about Bauhaus be a u h a u s it started after World War $11900.00 closed down by Hitler in 1933 Carolyn if you're thinking about this centennial about house and you're traveling where would you best learn about Bauhaus travels in Germany well as a whole it already said it is where it was born. Near Berlin the Evelyn Yes So it's it's easy to reach and that's where there will also be the museum so it's definitely worth while to go there to understand what it is about many gens get confused today because it's also a handy market so don't take that football house. It's like a 711 You mean yeah I don't know that I'm now just more like Of what use a hardware store is hardware like you that you got your English earlier in your. Store so that's not the one if you see a towering above something with a big like that's not the one we're talking about it is the school that was founded in 1988 and I think in the America it's mostly Miss Pondar row in Chicago that made it kind of famous I think I thought was more than worth mentioning because a eluded to it but we live in about this world right you go to any American city or an Israeli city right you go to tell of this is inspired by the by how School of Architecture. And then and then fled the country with Naziism like many things and it was inspired the next artistic movements in. America and elsewhere and today we sort of don't recognize that the modern architecture we see has it to roots in our house all right also this is the 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 it's true big change for Germany and for the world for sure I think what we going to face now is a rethinking of the relationship between east and west which was like you know separate and to tease for so long Frank hates you know different mindset different kind of world view everything and we kind of thought like wow now 89 comes the one comes down and we all you know unified and happy and together but it's not really working like this we really have to it has a lot of voices now coming up from the former East and saying listen our lives have been shaken up big time and let's let's recognize that and it's worth noting that the Berlin wall now has been gone for longer than it stood. So that's a threshold Yeah that's a threshold and that's something that I think makes us realize just a lot of time has gone by right since the Berlin Wall is come down and we still face these challenges that are a little more complicated than the euphoria that followed take down and the freedom now you're dealing with you know sorting out the options that a society would have this is travel with Rick Steves We're talking with 3 German historians and guides. Carolina Marburger and Torben Brown we're talking about Germany our phone number is 877-333-7425 you can e-mail us anytime at Radio at Rick Steves dot com And Jim's calling in from Abilene in Texas Jim thanks for your call yes yes I was interested in the unification of Germany after night. What did the East and West Germans to right. Do wrong to bring about beautification look at Weston because it was a huge investment on the part of West Germany to Britain to take in d.d.r. Carolyn when you look back 50 years later now did. West Germany do this right was it a good idea or should the Risto be to Germany's Well maybe that is the wrong question West Germany wasn't the single part of this even though I think for me because I was 9 when the wall came down it is still the single most great thing that ever happened I think in German history it still gives me goosebumps and my whole life depends on it because my whole life played out behind the Iron Curtain when gone so for me I always like you know without this my life wouldn't be the way it is today you grew up in West Germany but everything after I went to Berlin to study at the East German university I went to Budapest to start my Ph d. It's all in my whole circle of friends as half at least Eastern rights and European So while life wouldn't be the way it is today so for me I'm the most grateful however today about a generation in we realize that things aren't as easy and I particularly feel that the East German side of things wasn't given its fair share because it is of quarter of our population but they experience over those 28 or rather 40 years when given credit Ok so now this is interesting because I'm picking up from all of you there's this sense that it wasn't just the victory of capitalism I mean that's kind of what it was immediately capitalism when communism loses and Germany is united and free Ok great you're free you can watch t.v. From the west you can travel that's all wonderful capitalism works we make more money have more stuff but now 50 years later for the good of society are you saying we could have had less of a victorious approach and more of Ok let's look at our challenges let's look at what we've learned what do you think yeah I think it would have been nice enough think that's the feeling among a lot of East Germans that felt like yes of course we want the West German mark we want the currency want to buy a car from the west and not the good old law that was dying you know but at the same time like we didn't really kind of sit down together saying like what is good in our western kind of society what is maybe good also on the coming aside. You know have you subsidizing Yes you know all you know of course let me take you let me take the skeptics pro here come on are you telling me something was good about d.d.r. In communism that you could have kept you know the thing is it's not about like oh it's the bad commies now taken over but the thing is people have regular lives and they that is not being recognized I think that something so just I think the speed of the process was something that people are now feeling a bit uneasy with their more stress and aggressiveness in the Western way and is there a sense that the eastern way could have been a little more human and family and take a weekend off or was there anything like that or I think you know we can look at day care in East Germany and various policies these German government introduced by I think we have to be careful about not recognizing the fact that the East German regime was a party dictatorship it was not a democracy and the values that we hold dear I think in Germany today in the West those were not values that were shared by the East German government so I think none of us here would like to romanticize if it was a risk Germany could romanticize the good old days and be arsed object I think that's exactly I think that's really a danger and I think that still plays out somewhat I think more critical than a colony is I think in East Germany yes we could have done some things better but I think we should also recognise how far we've come only as last 30 years right how much a wealthy here the east is than it was 30 years ago right how much better the system works than in what you say by and large people in the former Eastern Germany now 50 years later have have become good capitalists as far as realising you've got to work in order to get stuff and this is a system that works Carolina I think I completely agree it's a complete success story basically So I agree with told him there and it is probably also hard looking back it's like what could have been done it was awful under the impact of something outstanding in a very short time that something had to be done however what I tried to remind people of that unification. Sion is a euphemism because unification would assume that the 2 come together to become one but what actually happened was that conquered the Germans No it wasn't conquered at all it was consented to by use Germans by vote but what they agreed to was maybe more than they for but because they joint where our Constitution the Basic Law applies so in the West nothing literally nothing changes apart from getting more people while in the east the whole execution regime was so not honored at subsume is that the word well I went I would like its ascension by consent you know of course it is a complete change of lives on one side without the want to Holder and I think that's the one critical point about it not so much like old are we better off can we now by other goods and stuff completely fair game but what we think have to always rethink it is that from one day to the next your whole state has collapsed and all the values all the things that you maybe didn't agree with you know like a lot of people were opposed to this dictatorship of like no freedom of the press no freedom of movement they were happy to be free but then again at the same time everything that you would find normal like the good you know in the shops. How people interact everything was gone and new system was put in place that people had to really learn and we learn and let's face it in the communist times a lot of things were bad but one thing was money it was not an issue you could do little dealings you could kind of trade things off a kind of like was on the table economy but money was not an issue that you had to face and now money is the pre The big thing if you don't have money you're basically maybe you don't have a house you know so it's a more aggressive world now Jim in Abilene that really stoked a lot of conversation thank you for your call Thank you very much I hope that was I hope that I give you some insights and the whole dynamic in Germany Oh yes very much so that's great thanks for your call Thank you. We're getting updated on Germany with 3 tour guides from Berlin right now on travel with Rick Steves Torben Brown works with Berlin perspectives dot com carol ina Marburger writes about Burma in history for Berlin locals dot com and Holger Timur is a broadcaster with r b b culture radio in Berlin. N.n.c. Is on the line in Fort Lauderdale Florida in n.z. Have you been thinking about current events in Germany and how that might impact your travels I sure have and I was just wondering how you're really tapestry of changed with the refugee crisis of the past couple of years and have the refugees assimilated into the workforce have they found a purpose in life and brought their trades opened up cafes with their kind of food with the help of social workers or come firstly is there an uptick in crime more homelessness more later and are so low women travelers say wow those are good questions now that you know when you when you are on the receiving end of a lot of media there's a lot of questions and it would be nice to actually be there in the middle of all of this and see how the quote crisis is due and I think the word crisis itself is interesting Carol you know what your take on the mosaic of German society today after this influx of refugees Well thanks for the good interesting question because indeed I think it is fooled by so much information and very little knowledge on the ground for 1000000 refugees sounds like a lot but then when you actually they are everyone's like me now because yes how many people in Germany all together a 1000000 a 1000000 refugees among 18000000 so 100 percent essential a one percent of society is added in these would be poor people ready to work hard I suppose looking for a new life I think the most important thing is that also the most off refugees so there is a lot of those that we would think are poor emigrants that have difficulties to integrate I know refugees that are graphic designers read actually work as self-employed graphic designers while in Berlin so this is not the image you have but that is a refugee from Syria from Damascus that is a graphic designer working in Berlin a highly educated refugee coming in from a place like Syria do. They come in with nothing or do they come in with their family wealth no in this case he he came with a little amount and basically started to try to get to work and yes he was offended by the government and beginning but he came in with skills yes quite the bourbon What's your take on the whole refugee situation today I agree with Colleen that it's not something that we notice in our everyday lives right so I think that's a that's a concern that you need to have when you travel to Germany you won't notice the fact that you have this influx of refugees except there is in a city like Berlin there are more cafes and restaurants and fast food options where you can get Arab food that's I think a positive and I think in Germany where we're trying to figure things out we're trying to figure out how best to integrate these refugee rights I think we're doing this in a more pragmatic way than perhaps we did some years ago you know when you when you think of a 1000000 refugees coming in if there's one rape or one groping or one murder or something it's going to be all over the news holder what is the image and what is the reality of safety of Germans visa v. All the refugees that came and you know I couldn't tell you like to exact like kind of facts and figures here but what I do believe though is that you know in the end the perception of people like you know average jump but I think people aren't things are changing and people are feeling a bit more uneasy and what I would still think that just a case maybe not in every city I mean big cities have big cities anyway but if you go to villages and it's not to say that you know people that you see are are criminals are are bad in any shape or form but I think the perception of people have even smaller places where you see suddenly much more people with a different skin color with a different kind of attitude or different kind of fashion you know walking around that gives a bit of a feeling like Ok what's what's happening because there is sort of parallel worlds even in a small town and you've got the refugees will hang out together and the locals will wonder where what's their place but even though there is also on a local level support and. Saying listen you're here now you knew how can we help you you know how can we all go over the tourney all over Germany I saw big banners that just say welcome refugees Here's your lunch you know this kind of people standing by in a kind of solidarity but there are challenges presented by that Carolyn It is very interesting I went to with a student group I went to some local councils and Delenn to talk to people that are actually involved in dealing with that influx of migrants but refugees to them so they cover both and it was very interesting that there was the best practice and there is problems that it would be wrong to deny that there are problems sometimes but it's very interesting that those that are the most of sex Full Of course they bring the community in so they bring the community it's a football club when you're in Berlin they actually the moment that they are settling in there they try to get the network of churches of clubs and all those things to actually be involved that is the best way to integrate I sadly that is not happening everywhere of course so you need that infrastructure that that they can't happen if they don't of course they will create those parlor you know there's the compassion of you know give these people a roof over their shoulder and chance to work and get ahead and then there's the reality that it makes your site a little more complicated and good for Germany for being a leader in grappling with that because it's a it's not it's a harsh reality and it's something that that we need to deal with in the United States and Europe is dealing with also Nancy thanks for your call Sir this is travel with Rick Steves we've been talking with 3 German guides Holger Timur Torben Brown and Carolina Marburger about issues in Germany Thanks all very much for being here thank you thanks a lot for having us. This. Was . Where I was. Before the Iron Curtain fell and Soviet Communism fell apart some of the chinks in its armor came courtesy of the ship workers in pones port city of conducts today could is eager to tell its story and is becoming a visitor destination on the rides for people looking for great food culture and history and maybe even a sandy beach guide to tell us more next on travel with Rick Steves where at 877-333-7425. During the Vietnam War roughly one in 5 G.I.'s actively opposed the conflict has had a responsibility to disobey illegal immoral and unjust orders active duty G.I.'s in Vietnam veterans worked closely with the civilian peace movement to stop the war in Vietnam soldiers for peace a new documentary from a.p.m. Reports. Noon and 9 pm. Where news matters k p b s Public Radio is supported by Jackson design and remodelling inviting you to their design and remodelling seminar Tuesday Nov 12th 530 to 7 30 pm in their Kearney Mesa show room meet j.d. 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Autumn a calmness and by Cameron here that Cameron is my co-author and main researcher on Poland for the Rick Steves Eastern Europe guidebooks we'll take your calls in just a bit of 877-333-7425 Cameron thanks for joining us thank you for having me yeah thank you Cameron I know when we were writing the guidebook chapter to Poland Greeley is unique from a history point of view what does little good have to do so much with big history Well the 1st thing you have to think about is it's on the northern Baltic coast so it's sort of Poland's outlet to the rest of the world so the main river the trading river the Vistula River flows out through good and so it's kind of the gateway to Poland for everyone else and that makes it very cosmopolitan very historic It was always a big shipping city trading city it was part of the sciatic League of a Northern European trading city so it has that kind of heritage of beautiful colorful wealthy burghers mansions that you might find in Bergen or Amsterdam or something where yeah I mean I see pictures of 100 sciatic towns and it's Lubeck in Germany is that when they're big stately medieval powerhouses from a trade point of view and back then to dance right in the same league with those those other famous big cities so when we think about Paul and it's one of the bigger countries in Europe and of course the massive central capital city the historic capital of a lot of ways was Krakow which is closer to Prague and what people think of as Eastern Europe and because really at the far end of that it's kind of the maritime capital the shipping capital and really northern looking it feels almost Scandinavian sometimes more than polish be one. We think of good dance gets a little confusing to me because it is also called Done zig What's the Dunns a good name situation where does that come from well that's from the part of his Polish history when he dies belonged to Germany and because it was right on the coast of the seat it doesn't really freeze in the winter it's been always spot that wanted to be owned by many Russia Poland Germany just so happened that the dice has been going back and forth between Poland and Germany so when it's in German hands it's done dig it's done is it yes and when it's in Polish hands it's a good ice good odds Let's talk more about its history World War 2 essentially starting there what happened in good hands at the beginning of World War 2 September 1st 1939 For am because Stein a German ship was docked right off of the coast there by Foster Plata and German soldiers attacked from the sea and from the land German soldiers attacked the dice good at s.k. Good as it was the 1st major spot were fights took place and a very famous battle was bottle of the post office people people who work at the post office and guys and try to protect that building for 3 days unfortunately they fell. But to this day it's almost too was like Alamo like to an American is right I mean they fought fight that they don't let you go nuclear and they are going to lose because you're up against Germany which is much much stronger you know there would be only one prepared in that war really planned out ahead of time and they took us by complete surprise so that was the 1st invasion of Hitler yes Cameron you mentioned also this was the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union and there's a memorial to that that's right in that there's a place in good desk where you look in one direction and you can see Vester plots where the 1st shots of World War 2 were fired and then you look in the other direction and you can see the cranes of the shipyards which is where in 1900 they had the solidarity strikes it was the 1st successful trade union strike against the Soviet bloc regime successful because after a couple of weeks of protests they actually agreed to some of the workers demands and a lot of people credit that protest the solidarity protest with being the beginning of the end of communism in Europe because I remember everybody was holding their breath what's the Soviet Union going to do with they let this happen and then it will happen elsewhere or will they clamp down on it right and it took a good 9 years for it to trickle out across the rest of Europe and there were fits and starts but this was the 1st time that there were successful strikes against the Soviets and that was where we had that iconic image of Elect fallen to climbing on to the top and rallying the workers That's right little ones that was shipped out electrician had already been fired from the shipyards because he was kind of a rabble rouser and when he saw that there was a protest going on he said geez I gotta go be with my people so he famously went and scaled the fence to get into the shipyards and became the leader of this uprising and then he was the spokes person and he was the negotiator this is travel with Rick Steves We're talking with Beata McComas and Cameron Hewitt about it not in Poland you know Cameron We're talking about all this amazing history from this one town there's some impressive new museums or some and very impressive museums to learn more about that when we go to get out can you give a review of the important history museums you have there are 3 fantastic museums that have all just opened in the last few years and they're all just cutting edge top of the line they do a beautiful job of. Telling their story the 1st one is the European solidarity Center which is built right in the shipyards where I had his protest the solidarity protests and it just beautifully tells the story of the protests from the very beginning to the very end and the results the result was the 1st free elections in Poland the 2nd one also advanced is World War 2 museum that just opened in $27000.00 that was a little tricky it's really well done top of the line high tech but the content has been fiddled with by the government we'll talk about that maybe a little later but to round out the 3 great new museums in this area a couple towns over the town of Daniel which is a half hour train ride away there's a fantastic immigration museum that also just opened recently in the terminal building where a lot of Polish people emigrated to the United States or Canada and it's again high tech a beautiful museum that tells the story of Polish immigrants to the New World because when you think about why we care about Poland and America why we care about Italy why we care about Sweden and Ireland so much of it is because there was a diaspora from those countries during hard times and a lot of people left Poland and there's a museum there near good onse for people to learn about that I remember when I went to the Museum of the Solidarity just outside of those gates that we all remember from those heady times there's an amazing memorial built there by the workers that must be close to the hearts of people who were there and witnessed that can you describe that memorial that's in the square that in the Morial is dedicated to the fallen a shipyard workers of 1970 so they were memorialized in the 1980 s. And just to remember them was quite a strong statement and that shows that the movement Solidarity Movement was build on something bigger on people fighting way before 980 Now Cameron You mentioned that the World War 2 museum is now a political hot potato because why I mean because everybody gets to tell history the way they want to what's going on in Poland well in 2017 in good Danskin this beautiful purpose built building they'd be open the music. I'm of the 2nd World War which had a very ambitious vision to be a museum about Poland's experience but also more broadly the global experience of World War 2 around that same time the government decided to remove the director of the museum just before it opened and replaced him with a party loyalist and a lot of critics observe that they changed the exhibits quite heavily to slant it a little bit more towards a more purely patriotic Polish perspective it was always a Polish perspective but there was some controversy changes that were made and I went into it for the 1st time a few months ago and I could have you know the story I could tell a few cases where Ok This feels like they kind of had adapted this or they have wedged this in and so I was I was disappointed as someone who reviews museums for a living I thought it could have been maybe the Great World War 2 museum and all of Europe it was back tackler but you can see where they've kind of taken some liberties and there's sort of shadows of the of the original exhibit that are still really beautiful and then other things that just feel kind of like taking out a sharp turn away from what it could have been so this museum that had so much potential to be a great destination kind of museum was envisioned before the far right wing government established itself and suddenly a centrist more balanced approach to World War 2 became a tool for a nationalistic far right government exactly yes so a trained historian director of the museum was replaced by a party loyalist and was given it would seem was given instructions to to adapt the exhibits to make them more more purely patriotic This is travel to Rick Steves for talking with 2 experts on point the atom a calmness and Cameron here we're talking about the port in the far north that really is an up and coming destination for travelers or phone numbers 877-333-7425 you can email us anytime at Radio at Rick Steves dot com Nicole's giving us a ring from Victoria in British Columbia and a call I am found found really interesting to visit during the day and I'm wondering if you have any recommendations for things you need evening good question b. If we're there in the evening after dark and get on sc who. People do well that depends what age bracket here in let's say you're young and crazy. Well you can stay in dice kill lots of clubs bars you can take a tram are city bust a little bit further outside of the old part of town into the shipyards where more grungy kind of parties take place and there's edgy grunge nightlife right were you have bars there were built in shipping containers with human made beaches and you know partying outside all or you could go to support and the good thing about subplot is that even though you do have to take the s.k. On which is to fast a train it takes about 10 to 15 minutes to get there and the train goes back and forth between dies and such but every hour in the middle of the night Nicole there's plenty to do after dark and get on thanks for your call sounds great thank you very much take care one more idea Rick after dark something a little more sedate they've done a really beautiful job of developing their riverfront embankments this was this great shipping city so there's a river running right through the middle and there's an old island called greenery island where there were 400 medieval greenery is that were bombed out in World War 2 So it was basically a deserted word zone right up until a few years ago and now they're completely redeveloping that and they're adding embankments along the side of it and they're connecting it to the other side of the river with a couple of new pedestrian bridges so even just in the last 2 or 3 years it's becoming an even more appealing place just to go out strolling after dark there's a beautiful Philharmonic building that's right along the Embankment So there's a lot of culture and kind of general even bustle and dance these days you know I think there's that energy that you feel in what was rundown Eastern Europe there's the scars of World War 2 that are actually turned into something kind of trendy and edgy and creative districts like that wherever you go in Eastern Europe and then get on Certainly I know be that you're interested in they have the street art and there's a lot of murals in a town nearby Can you talk a little bit about that yes it's actually. Not a town it's just a neighborhood. Neighborhood Zac Bissonnette z a s p a caress It's a neighborhood like any neighborhood anywhere in Poland you have those big communist style blocks right buildings made out of concrete blocks and what to do with that have to beautified well as organize international contest and between 100-200-9201 extension 6 people from all over the world would calm and paint artists murals on the side of those tall buildings often 10 to 11 story tall whoa and you have about 60 of them oh my goodness it's like you could make a tour of these right and you can even download a free map to see all of them it takes about an hour to 2 hours and how fast you're walking so you see different themes different colors no political agenda in that these are great opportunities to go to a city most of us have never thought of and see a lot of Happening now sort of the ways that people are creative in turning their city into something that has their personality. Where exploring Poland seaside city of get out right now and travel with Rick Steves Our guests are Polish born tour guide be out to McComas and Cameron Hewitt who co-authors the Rick Steves guidebooks to Eastern Europe elint is coming in from dear Phil Beach in Florida in London thanks for your call Hi Rick hi everyone has been fascinating to see what you say about the new Syria we visit a few years ago that we did not see that Open last year but my question is that when we were in good. Every day it was pouring rain and we had my brother with us who had to be a to Wiltz are we willing over a couple of 100 if the rain you know what I'd like to know we were headed to when as a good time to visit when it would not be such a rabies these would be out to you grew up in that area what about the climate what about the weather 1st of all I want to say I'm sorry. Experienced the rain in June because that's really not typical for this part of Poland usually our summers June July and August are pretty nice and warm so I would say in the middle of the summer I would be the best time to go but I hope that even though you had the rain there in the good guys you still get to do lots of fun things and you were able to experience the city Yeah that's too bad I mean the weather is especially these days the weather is unpredictable I find in much of that part of Europe you have humid times in the summer and it builds up and you have a rainstorm in the afternoon but it changes quickly and I just think you need to be dressed for whatever weather you encounter thanks to Linda thank you I guess we just had bad luck you had bad luck. Yet Or there's so much going on with history and the city is getting spiffed up for visitors what about the cultural scene do people go to enjoy music and theater as travelers Oh absolutely if you're on the budget staying in the city center and you'll see a tons of street musicians if you have a little bit of more money you can go to symphony there and dice or visit a Shakespeare Theater which is not just by name but the theater itself was design and build the way British see it it was back then built in the round yes around with the balconies around with the stage in the center so definitely the place to visit and see a play sounds like a good dance because doing a lot to rival Warsaw and Krakow as one of the top 3 cities to see in Poland let's just finish off talking a little bit about food because of the same things going to stoke our appetite and we want to eat smartly What are your tips be a tough for eating well and get out eating well in my opinion doesn't mean you have to spend a lot of money you can start with street vendors food is always fresh and is delicious my favorite food from the street would be a piece of freshly made. Bread thick piece of bread with a spread on it I'm not sure if I should mention what it is in that spread go that it may I don't pig fat with bacon and onions and really that's one of my most favorite things to eat what's the name smallest mallets Mother Yes And this is street food that's a straight foot Yes all right and then you can also have a pecan come if you want to be known for sophisticated and you can go to milk bar which is very affordable and you basically eat the food that I cook at home and Zappy What was that come with it's a bucket with mushrooms and onions and melted cheese on top sounds good it looks kind of like a french bread pizza but it's a it's a really trendy thing used to be kind of a hardship food was kind of an easy fast food people to get out and now it's becoming like an artform all over Poland but now they're putting all these crazy international toppings on them too it's kind of a fun a fun new trend very important and you can even if you remember the name you can see it's sort of like a baguette pizza Exactly and it's to go it's told to take away yes and I've always milk bars make a comeback it used to be for working people who came home late to go and eat there or for students now bars are becoming more popular because the Western type of food came into Paul in 1909 and that was started pushing away the foods that we grew up eating that was cooked by our parents and grandparents now we read discovering how really it was back then the rise of the mill there are the return of the milk bar right and the food is simple yet delicious The menu changes depends on the season and what's available and then of course you have the restaurants were the Polish Christine is coming back is returning to and we're not talking Polish fusion Now the good Polish food like good old you for example made in 100 the front ways steam baked boiled in the hot water so many different feelings inside nice. As an American traveling in Poland What do you remember as the rewarding dimension of Eating Well one of the things is as bad as saying it's really inexpensive you can have an amazing traditional food for not too much money all the traditional hearty Polish food she's talking about it's true you can get them now and they're doing them in a really not exactly a fusion way or an international way but an upmarket way there's a great little pierogi bar I went to and get Danske on this last trip Mon Dieu and it's tucked in this back street near the train station no tourists anywhere nearby and it's just this beautiful little place that's almost entirely for locals and you know international foods have done their homework and you have to wait for a table but it's this beautiful menu of different kinds of pierogi prepared all different ways with different fillings so it's really fun to go to good dance can get off the main street and find some back streets areas that are a little more trendy and a little more experimental while still giving respect to the Polish tradition nice Beata McComas Cameron who would thank you so much for giving us a better appreciation of a city we should all be mindful of next time we plan a trip to Poland. 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