Transcripts For KOFY Beyond The Headlines 20170605

Abc7s chris nguyen is here now with local apa leaders to talk about important issues affecting our bay area communities. Cheryl, its great to be here. Im excited to introduce you to our panel of guests today. Gina su is an actor based here in the bay area. Shes the winner of the 20162017 miss asian global pageant. Next, lan diep is an attorney. He currently serves as a San Jose City Council Member representing district four. And finally, vincent pan, executive director of chinese for affirmative action. Hes also a board member for the center for Asian American media. Thanks to all of you for joining us today. We have a lot to talk about. Our first topic is Civic Engagement and how to get more Asian Americans involved in the process. Vincent, well start with you. Would you say that we are seeing an upsurge in political activism . I would. I mean, i think that theres always been a lot of unseen activism thats occurred in the Asian American community that maybe hasnt been recognized by dominant culture. But if we look at things like voting, if we look at things like people running for office, we do see that we continue to increase our numbers after election. But one of the most interesting things, i think, is the way Asian Americans are starting to show up across the spectrum of ways to be involved, and especially in many of these direct actions and protests against many of the federal policies that have been targeting immigrants, that have been targeting communities of color. And i think that those types of ways of being involved are really important for the Asian American community, not only to be involved in but to be recognized for it. And with social media, it seems like everyone has an opinion these days. They want to share it. Were seeing more people on facebook getting in fights more than ever before. Gina, do you get the feeling that more people are hiding behind the monitor instead of just having that conversation face to face . Yeah, absolutely. Its so easy to just type on your computer and write something that you want to be heard. But i think for Civic Engagement, especially in the Asian American community, it starts with your immediate family, your immediate friends. Im never afraid to admit the first year i was able to vote, i didnt cause my parents didnt. I didnt understand the process. I didnt understand the value. And it wasnt until a close friend of mine that i actually met through the pageant her names sharon chung. Shes so passionate about politics that thats what encouraged me to do it. And so sometimes social media is great to see all of that, but you really need someone a friend, a Family Member i think to encourage it to really happen. Yeah, good point. And, lan, i want to get your thoughts. But first we have some video of your swearingin ceremony as a San Jose City Council Member. Lets roll the clip. I, lan diep. Do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear. That i will support and defend. That i will support and defend. The constitution of the United States. The constitution of the United States. And the constitution of the state of california. And the constitution of the state of california. Against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Lan, youve spoke about wanting to make government more fun. We saw in that video you wearing your captain america shield. I have to ask, what was the reaction from people in the audience that day . The reaction was quite warm, i thought. I got laughs, i got applause. I didnt realize it at the time, but it kind of took off, and i got a bit of National Attention for that. And i think it was just great. I did it not to make any political statement, but to just bring home the point that government can be fun, it should be fun. And if it is fun, it can bring more people into the process, because a lot of the things that we discuss as elected officials or as policymakers are of great importance, but they tend to be dry and drawnout conversations. Theres nothing wrong with bringing a little levity to the process and making it entertaining as well as educational. But, lan, when you hear that people are saying, hes not taking his job seriously, et cetera, does that make it discouraging at all . I do get that, but i think that im not taking myself too seriously. And i think we need more politicians who are able to laugh at themselves. And as long as people are laughing with me and im giving them the opportunity to engage, i think thats great, because for everybody who says that im not taking my job seriously, there are people who reach out to me to say that im a symbol of hope for them. They project positive things on to me, and im very happy to be that symbol for them. Vincent, what would you say are some items that are holding the Community Back from being more engaged . Well, theres some structural issues. So if you look at the number of times that Asian Americans are contacted by either people running for office or by the political parties, its much, much lower than for other groups. So i think that one thing that has to change is that there needs to be a better awareness from the overall political infrastructure about the importance of the Asian American vote, the importance of the Pacific Islander vote. So i think thats one thing. I think the other thing is that we do need more candidates that people can relate to and that understand that their community is their home base and who had the cultural competency to really discuss the issues that matter to them. I think all these things have to happen at the same time. Gina, what do you think it will take to get more people involved, more of your friends involved, more young people . You know, i always think it starts with passion. When i got politically involved was when i saw the soda tax. I love health and nutrition, and this was something i could relate to, i could understand, and i could easily share with my friends and family. And i could tell them, this will affect your life if this passes. And so i think more people, if they do want to get involved, take a baby step. Start with something that youre excited about, maybe you want to root for, and see what happens. Okay, some very good points. And as we see more people take an active role, you kn, another question is, you know, could that lead to a rise in racial tension . Well tackle that issue coming up on beyond the headlines. Welcome back to beyond the headlines with Cheryl Jennings. Im abc7 news anchor chris nguyen sitting in as guest host for this special roundtable edition. As more Asian Americans get involved in the political process, many wonder will this lead in a rise in racial tension . Vincent, you work for a civil rights organization. Its important that people push back on bias and discrimination. It is, and i think the way we should understand our own identity is as a means, not an end. And so i think when we understand what it means to be treated as an other, we can maybe be more empathetic to other groups who are marginalized. And so in that way, we dont see everything as a contest for limited resources, but how we need to Work Together to make sure that everyone has a fair shot, i think thats the way to address some of these questions around, you know, any potential downsides of diversity, including tension between different groups. Vincent, are you hearing more reports of people becoming more hateful toward others . Well, i think we look at it nationally. Weve seen a huge uptick in the attention in the amount of support groups that identify as either white nationalists and white supremacist groups. I think that when you have a place like the bay area and in california where theres maybe a much more sophisticated appreciation and pride in diversity and inclusion, the issues are a little bit different. And so, yes, we still do have a lot of problems of dealing with this notion that, you know, america is only for white people. But i think also within our community, within other communities of color, we have to do a much better job of actually getting to know one another and learning from each other. Valid points. Gina, what are you hearing amongst the millennials, so to speak . Any experiences that stand out that have kind of just left you thinking, oh, my goodness . I definitely have had a few friends who have had this experience of racial slurs or things being said to them, which is incredibly disappointing that thats happening now. But i think it has always been happening a little bit, and so im glad it is being brought to the surface and now we can have courageous conversations about it. Lan, as a younger politician, as the son of two immigrants, do people still view you as a foreigner . Yes, i think the working assumption is that im also an immigrant myself. Im actually san joses fourth vietnamese american Council Member, but im the First American born. So there is a change in the guard, change of generations. And i think its important for more, you know, Asian Americans to get out there, not just be elected, but to run for office, make the attempt and to just create this normalcy around Asian American candidates. Okay, so we have a question from our Facebook Community for the panel, and this one comes from praise santos. And the question is, is the passive tendency of asians in our current climate of racial tension in the United States benefiting us in the immediate but hurting us in the long term . Vincent, well start with you. Well, i actually dont accept that premise. I think that Asian Americans are much more active and outspoken than often is understood. You know, certainly the myth of asians as being passive across the globe is easy to debunk, and you could see that in the elections in south korea, you could see that in protests like occupy central in hong kong. And even in the United States, i do think that Asian Americans are involved in so many different ways, either as political leaders, community leaders, grass roots activists. And so i actually dont think that folks havent been outspoken. I think we havent been heard. And i think theres a difference between that and actually not speaking up. And, lan, what motivated you to run for city council . You know, youre obviously you know, that question from one of the viewers, in some ways, youre going against what theyre saying. Sure. I was a legal aide attorney. I helped a lot of folks in the bp oil spill in mississippi and louisiana. I did some legal aide work here in the bay area dealing with limited English Proficient vietnamese americans, and i saw myself helping a lot of people resolve the same issues, more or less, again and again and again. And i thought if i were to run for office and were able to affect change at a policy level, id be able to help a lot more people with, you know, one ordinance or so. And that attracted me to politics, it attracted me to run, and im glad i did. Gina, your thoughts . You know, i actually do think in the Asian American community there is the sense of being passive, about not rocking the boat and bringing too much attention to yourself. Its obviously important to speak out and be bold about it, but i do think that, as Asian Americans, were also not innocent in this climate of racial tension. So if we can just be the best ambassadors to fight for the rights and things that we believe in, then maybe we can also help support other minorities and people of color. And if all of us can do that together, i think theres quite a bit of strength there. Now, immigration is always a hot topic. We hear a lot about immigration when it comes to hispanics. But this is also an issue that affects asian families across america. Vincent, can you expand on that for us . Sure. There are about 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, and about 10 of them are people of asian descent. Right here in san francisco, there are 10,000 undocumented chinese immigrants. So this whole narrative around immigration and undocumented immigration being a latino issue is really, again, i think something i think we have to look at more closely. The reality is that half of the Asian American community is foreign born, that the same fear and bigotry thats targeted against undocumented immigrants are the same types of fear and bigotry that are targeted against legal immigrants, as well. And so i think were seeing nationally this rhetoric that, you know, on the one hand, been about undocumented immigrants, but really its about, you know, people who have not been part of the old notion of what it means to be america, which is a very white america. And talk to us about the importance of celebrating diversity and, in particular, Asian American accomplishments. Well, i think that when we understand our accomplishments, when we understand our history, it can maybe point the way forward. And it could help us understand that we have always contributed to the things that do make America Great and that theres so much more that we can do. But to do it in a way that isnt just about us, that is about reaching out to others, that identifies common goals, and really moves us to maybe a higher and shared humanity. Gina, when you were going through the process for the miss asian global pageant, was there anything that you learned in particular that you didnt necessarily expect to take away . That was my first very pageant, so it was a very new experience for me. And when i thought of it as a miss asian global pageant, i just thought of my chinese american friends, my taiwanese american friends, and it was interesting to have people fly from japan and china. We had an awesome candidate, maya, who is cambodian, and that really expanded my understanding of the Asian American community in the u. S. Its so diverse, yeah. Lan, when you told your mom that you were gonna run for city council, what did she say . And then what was the reaction like from your family and friends when you actually won . Because you won by 12 votes. Is that correct . I did. My mothers reaction initially was, are you serious . [ laughter ] and i ran in 2015. I lost by 13. I ran again in 2016. I won by 12 against the same person who beat me the first time. So its an ordeal, but i think generally asian parents, at least vietnamese parents, dont encourage their kids to go into politics. You know, they encourage their sons and daughters to become pharmacists, doctors, engineers, lawyers even. But in the case of vietnamese americans, their political history has been to be disappointed by government, to be wary of government. And so they dont want to see their kids move into that field. And i think thats a Common Thread i hear among vietnamese americans, perhaps Asian Americans more broadly. And im glad to kind of move in that direction because i think we need representation, and i represent not just vietnamese americans and Asian Americans, but also my entire district of north san jose, which is more than just asians. And real quickly, what made you decide, you know what . Im gonna try again, even though i lost the first time around . Maybe theres a bit of pride in it, but theres also a bit of wanting the district to have good representation. I observed in the second round of that election, there were no contenders. In the first time when there was an open seat, we had 10 people sign up to run. In the second round a year later when there was an incumbent, nobody decided to run. And i thought, in a democracy, you need choices. And some people are unwilling to put up their kind of Political Capital and lose. But im willing to do that because i believe in democracy. I believe people deserve a choice. But im thankful that they chose me. Great perspective. Well, were gonna pause for a quick commercial break. But coming up, well dive into the topic of asians in entertainment. Stay close. Youre watching beyond the headlines with Cheryl Jennings. Welcome back to beyond the headlines. Im chris nguyen sitting in for Cheryl Jennings on our special roundtable episode today. Lets move in now to another interesting issue asians in entertainment. So, lan, this first question goes to you. Growing up, did you have any Asian American role models on television that you can remember . I remember two, and i dont know if they were role models, per se, but people that i identified with. One was Dustin Nguyen of 21 jump street. Mmhmm. And two was connie chung, because those were the only asian people that i recall seeing on tv. And i watched a lot of tv. I learned english completely from tv. So those are my two. And, you know, i guess it impacted me to see somebody familiar to me on tv. I lived in houston growing up at a time when there werent many vietnamese people in houston. I was kind of the token vietnamese kid in my class. I remember going to, like, target and hearing a vietnamese person speak, like, two aisles down. I would run out just to see them. And so i think its important for young people to see other people like them in media as actors, as entertainers, as elected officials, as News Reporters just so they know that there are many paths and avenues available to them, and its not just the kind of stereotypical thing that you would typically get from, you know, Old School Media like youre a kung fu fighter or martial artist of some sort, and i think thats important. Yeah, were gonna talk about stereotypes in just a bit. But first, gina, as an actress here in the bay area, can you share some of your experiences that youve had as youve gone on auditions . Yeah, absolutely. So, auditions are always nervewracking, i think, for me and for a lot of other actors. And theres a sense of when youre confident and youre calm and you have this good, you know, humor about you and sense of selfawareness, then i always find that those are the auditions that do really well. And in the bay area, we have a very tightknit community of artists, directors, producers, and its nice to see people collaborating and using the same actors or producers again. So its great here. And theres a lot of student filmmakers, as well. As you go out to read for some of those roles, are you seeing that, you know, race isnt that much of a deal for those student projects, but then when it comes to the commercial side, theres a difference . Yes, absolutely. For all my commercial work, theres definitely a pool of diversity. You know, you want in a shot with people of all different colors being shown. But when it comes to student films and indie films, every single role that ive been casted as a lead for had nothing to do with my race. And i find that to be incredible. And i think as these student directors or indie filmmakers take leadership roles hopefully in hollywood in the future, theyll carry that mind set with them. Its the character and its a story, and thats the most important part. And we do have a question from our Facebook Community. What advice would you give to upandcoming or aspiring Asian American actors . For actors in particularly, totally be so good that you are undeniable, you know, because sometimes people always talk about do we have enough roles written for us, and, you know, are we able to even compete in this era of whitewashing or roles given to white actors . But if theres more of us that come out, were bold about it, we go on as many auditions as possible, and we bring to the table all our talent and our hard work, then its a choice of choosing between talent rather than race, so. And weve also been hearing more from stars such as constance wu, who is on abcs fresh off the boat. Shes been very vocal. I love that. I think shes really making a big change and making some waves, and people are having more courageous conversations about it, which is what we need. Now, vincent, what do you think needs to happen more for Asian Americans in terms of representation in the entertainment world . What needs to happen for that to happen . Well, i think ginas points really good about what people can do individually. But i do think theres also a need to work collectively. I think that, you know, people who are involved in the creative arts, in all the creative arts, have to think about the ways that the industry is set up and how changes need to be made in order to make sure that theres full representation. And i think thats how weve seen gains in the past, and i think thats how well continue to see gains in the future. And one of our viewers on facebook was wondering, do you think asian stereotypes are going away at a fast enough rate in hollywood . Well, i dont think its ever fast enough. Theres clearly been some progress, and i think its important to have roles and to have stories that really reflect our experiences, some that center our experience as Asian Americans and others that dont. I think that a lot of that, again, happens throughout the chain of how things get on air, and thats both the writing, the producing, the directing. And also that crew has the decision to greenlight what projects go forward and what dont. Lan, youre an attorney, now serving on city council. Is it encouraging for you to see more young Asian Americans choose different career paths as opposed to what you mentioned, the doctor, the typical doctor, et cetera . I think, you know, asians are very talented, just like any other community, and living in america, we have choices. And whats important is to pursue a career path that is fulfilling to us as individuals. I mean, i keep telling people as a politician, but i think this is true for anybody. Whats important is youre able to live with the reflection in the mirror that you see every day. So whatever you do, you have to find that fulfillment and live for yourself. Panelists, thanks so much for taking the time out of your day to be with us today. We are out of time, but were gonna keep this conversation going online on our website, abc7news. Com. For now, cheryl, well send it back over to you. Thank you, chris. For more information about todays show, go to our website, abc7news. Com community. Were also on facebook at abc7 community affairs, as well as Cheryl Jennings abc7. And follow me on twitter, cherylabc7. Thanks so much for joining us. Have a great week. Well see you next time. [narrator] its the michelle meow show, your a to z covering the lgbt, lmnop, and everyone in between. Heres michelle meow. Welcome, thank you so much for joining me. Im michelle meow, your host. The michelle meow show is your a through z, covering the lgbt, lmnop, and everyone in between. 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