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This is line each of the Hoover Institution for townhall dot com congressional Republicans and members of the trumpet ministration have reportedly reached a final deal on legislation to overhaul the tax system and cut taxes for many Americans the bill will lower individual tax rates boost the standard deduction that most Americans rely on and dramatically cut the business tax rate to make our system competitive with the rest of the industrialized world it would reduce the number of taxpayers subject to the alternative minimum tax a punitive provision that is gradually impacted more and more middle class families the tax bill will help to put more money in the pockets of many middle class taxpayers but it will also boost economic growth which is key to creating jobs and raising wages the agreement that's been reached isn't ideal but no major piece of legislation ever is Republicans should not allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good they should move quickly to pass the tax bills a President Trump can sign it and give Americans the Christmas gift they've long been promised I'm lucky chap. Hugh Hewitt Newstalk 70 can us. Morning Glory America it's here to get that Radio Hour music means it is time for the Hilldale dialogue the last radio hour of the week is brought to you by Hilldale college each week at this time all things Hillsdale covered at Hillsdale dot edu and all of the conversations we have at They'll Dail dialogue which is the last radio hour of the week are collected at q. For Hilldale dot com I was thrown a little off my game Dr Larry Arne president built out of college by watching a nativity scene video which I just tweeted out where the 2 year old steals the baby Jesus and gets into a baby Jesus tugging contest with Joseph or one of the 3 kings It's unclear but it is nevertheless very much worth your while to. Have it I really haven't taken everybody knows it to your oath that I don't know it did happen I am 5 tweeted out the video and it was not prearranged I checked. I think it probably happened back in the day oh it could have if there was a 2 year old going by this by the stable and they saw the kings and the shepherds they wouldn't want to know that you know they so what's the deal whereas mine Dr r. And you have an op ed in The Wall Street Journal today quote about that Hillsdale exemption we forgo money in order to spare our students faculty and administrators the bureaucratic interference tell us about the genesis of this piece and why you felt obliged to put it into the record. Well what it was it of last Friday night I can't remember the Senate was doing the vote Obama on the tax bill and they say it's the part that became the most controversial concern little Hillsdale couch . They had proposed and down went tax I don't know at this minute whether it's in the thing that's going to get passed or not because it's in conference committee now. But the attacks on college and down months if you have an amount some any of the recent various amounts name but amount of Dalat per student above the threshold and so I thought that was a really stupid idea and made that known I was asked actually by several people in the Congress and I said you're subsidizing these colleges you know there are 35 or 40 percent of the money spent in colleges comes from the government I'm told and and so now you're going to tax some. Why don't you just cut the subsidy because then the private sector and the independence of colleges will get bigger and the government will get smaller the way you're doing it the government always gets bigger so I objected to the whole thing and they heard those objections but they said hard duty about you having to pay the tax because tell me how you're endowment works and I said well we use it to pay for expenses related to the students mostly need based aid and you guys the federal government is paying for the need based aid of all of our competitors is one reason why there's if you're really poor and smart you're more heavily competed for then if you're middle income and smart Yeah and and so that's all there distortions everywhere right I mean for kids how to get scholarships to go to college if they're smart enough they'll do the work but anyway so I said So now you're going to you know we're sparing the taxpayer the expense of all of that and he'll feel college and you're going to taxes to it so they said well we'll take that out and on a Friday night pack to me off a man was. Explaining the bill. That would exempt any college doesn't have. Doesn't think what we call title for funds that's the money. That comes from the federal government for student aid there me titles of support to colleges and the Higher Education Act and we can summarize them all by saying the college participates and none of it but not that one and that's the big one and so somebody a Senate staffer came up the idea that only college qualifies for this thing so it's an exemption for one little crazy college that's very influential and powerful I was referred to as influential and powerful. And I haven't heard him call me. So yes I'm a really big cheese I know he knew it. But anyway then then and then they brought up Betsy device and she gave us money and owns us and all of this and so it's just a gentle bit of mass. The college is not for sale but if it were for sale of it take a very great deal of money to buy it and. Nobody's given that much. Anyway so that's just and then and then with a guy name from organ Senator Merkley Merkley Jeff Merkley right and he's he's just a fountain of truth and. So he said that the whole reason that we don't take the money is so we can discriminate he says we are specialist at discrimination. And that's a lot of bunkum because. When we stopped taking the money we stopped taking the money when it started being given and there weren't any regulations about that in the beginning we just don't think that we think that if you're training future leaders the government should not be in charge of their training. Then you know because you need an independent society and so you know Lord look the government is extensively in charge of the training of future leaders today it is notorious what they are being taught well I have ject to this having taught Conlon for 21 years the 1st thing I teach people is that we don't like prior restraints number one when we come to the 1st Amendment and secondly the government does not discriminate on the basis of viewpoint or content that is a prohibited 1st it's like that's the 1st day of 1st amendment seminar we don't want prior restraints and the government and discriminate on the basis of viewpoint or content when the senators targeted Hillsdale and the other tax ror benefit rejecting title for colleges they were discriminating based upon your viewpoint I think it is unconstitutional from beginning to end for them to have done so and to have targeted you specifically because you target idiology that rejects their large jets is ironic as well as unconstitutional but I don't think it's being picked I quizzed Peter Roskam about this yesterday and he does not think it's being fixed I think they're afraid of the pall the political fallout I am not happy with our Republican members for their lack of spine on this they ought to be able to stand up and say we are not going to tax the endowment income of people but do not take benefits from the federal government period that's that's an easy thing yeah I just think it's an meant to others not to take it that's that's saves money over the long term for the taxpayer and I you know Peter Roskam to fix this right I mean it's not but you know look at a larger thing why why is the tax bill have the character and this is my prime the kids tax bills a great thing and thank God for them passing it. But I will say that it is not nearly as great as it should be it's just much better than what we've got now and kudos and keep saying that to them having said that you shouldn't have a rule that if you're going to leave more money in the private sector you have to pay for it by raising taxes in some other way so that you don't increase the deficit more than a certain amount and that's just a mug's game because the Congressional Budget Office makes 10 year projections and their one year projections are always wrong right and they already cut the taxes is constrained by that process. And if they would just realize you know I think we don't even know this anymore like if you go in the confines of Washington d.c. There's this fantasy land there and so it's just a simple fact you don't have to add up any g.d.p. Number all of the money that goes into the government comes from the private sector all of it all of that and the government never gets its money 1st because it doesn't have any money you can't make money and the power to Pat tax is the power to paraphrase John Marshall only to destroy so so that see that in other words they should think yeah we need to grow because we've built up expenses in the United States of America that are monstrous and if we don't get between 3 and a half and 4 percent growth on a consistent basis for a long time we're going to have some kind of a collapse I'm going to be is that you believe I agree on all that Senator Rubio though is using a legislator position to. To reason towards and persuade his colleagues to give them something that he wants what do you make of the exercise of leverage by Senator Rubio I applaud it myself but I don't know what you think well yeah there's it's a worthy cause right he wants child care. Child Tax Credit expansion yet we can pay money for we have babies and I've never met a tax deduction that I didn't like and that is so. Bravo Marco Rubio Yeah you know it's actually that's good but you know I mean you know I I would not accept. That there you go but let's get let's get it done get Senator Rubio what he wanted wanted it from the beginning get it done I'll be right back with talks on the talk about Churchill. The hours that to portions of the huge show or block you in part by the Salvation Army. You you had a new song 710 k. N.U.'s there's a lot of spin on the news or pretty hear the truth right here cynicism Hewitt her turds this is the Hugh Hewitt Show. 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I went and saw the darkest hour and if my efforts were in any way connected with that I'd be immensely proud but they are not yours are you ought to be a mentally proud of whatever contributions you made to assisting Mr old but in that performance which is an Oscar winning performance I have said that he does for us what Daniel Day Lewis did for us with Lincoln which is to allow those of us who did not live in the time of the man greatness to experience a bit of that greatness of the of the medium of film. So Mr Ohman is coming here to Hillsdale College this very day and we're going to show the movie tonight and tomorrow morning he and I are going to have a discussion of the movie and I'm very proud about that I think the movie is very great it's been attacked in a few places because some of the things in the movie are not exactly as they happened. I'm not even approximately as if they happen but what does it do in the days made the 23rd made the 28th $1040.00 there was a political crisis in Britain and they almost accepted a peace offer from Mussolini to end the 2nd world war which would have left Hitler in league with Russia and in control of all of Europe west east and west and between the 2 of those great tall Terry and tyrants and so Churchill resisted that and he did it in the mustering way you can imagine in the film culminates with the way he did it the film begins with his speech on May 13th 1940 when he became prime minister that contains the expression but toil tears and sweat and it ends with this really great thing he said to the cabinet that I will tell you on May the 28940 and that's what persuaded some words persuaded. The British government to stay in the war and of course there was terrible cost that went along with that but in the end Western Europe ended up a united front against the remaining Soviet tyranny and the world has unfolded to the mess it's in right now which does not include the domination of Western Europe and the United States by its atomic Tarion power so the destruction of many many millions of more people I will credit Lord Halifax I want to talk about him specifically we come back from break a brilliant performance by the way whoever played Lord Howe facts about him specifically but to their credit they did not know of the killing machine that was under way and being built even as they retreated across the continent face the panzers they just didn't know so there is that in their defense but I'm curious about one scene Lord how a fax muttering about being leaf language being martial and sent into battle is that a writer's imagination at work. That was said by John Kennedy right and that when they gave Churchill his honorary citizenship yes and that didn't Halifax beat him to it that's what I was wondering no I don't think so so that there's a little writers' license to make it better but more Halifax would have been in the gallery correct. He was in the room so that there were 2 bodies that was a cabinet of about 25 people and there was a war cabinet of 5 people and. The war cabinet included 3 members of the Conservative Party Chamberlain Halifax and church and Chamberlain to Halifax were popular in the house Churchill suspected some and in the conservatives control the great majority of the votes. And so if either of them on the really big days with 262728 May when they had discussions in the war cabinet and if either of those guys had resigned then it's likely that the government will fall on and that means that Churchill had to keep them in the cabinet and yet they were threatening you know we need to have this piece and so he didn't have the power to order anybody they can quit if they want to and so what he did was talk about it and Halifax heard that and your church will give this really great speech how thick as they were it was Kemet Rizana now that says Well I think we would be honest with bridge he started talking now. Back we're going to talk a little bit more actually want to talk a lot next week after Mr Altman sits down with Tucker and I hope they all record again for next October by a large picture of America. On Newstalk 710 k. And us you're in the middle of a nonstop action the information. Coming back. 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Welcome back America to your I think it relaxing to hear your show Dr Lerner is my guest president of Hilldale college we're talking about the movie The darkest hour about Winston Churchill now some specific question Dr r. And I have been into the war rooms and I have not been inside of Number 10 but I do get a sense of the space and it's really kind of amazing how they use this space and how old and fills it and manages to project that this vast war raging across all the continents and all the seas is being driven by the decisions of a half dozen men in the war cabinet in one room it's so we're markedly shot Yeah and it you know I will tell you that if you you've been there many times I've been there many times if you go to the west wing of the White House. And that's the west wing pop proper The part that is attached to the White House the offices they're not very big right the Old Executive Office Building next door is a big old building and there's a couple of others around right the executive branch is too big too but but the White House is confined little space and 10 Downing Street and and these cabinet war rooms that are directly across the street from 10 Downing Street and in the basement Those are not big places and that means that when you walk down the hall you have to turn sideways somebody else coming so it's kind of like being on again in a ship or something you know and and it's a. Cramped space and and all of it is like that and so they were all operating cheek by jowl close together and they were arguing and then the other thing that the film captures a lot of the sense of is that Churchill became prime minister is chosen by the king on the 10th of May 940 and that's the day that Adolf Hitler began his attack westwards there had been no major fighting to the west in Belgium in France up until that time the war had started in September now it's May of the next year and that starts happening while Churchill for the 1st time in his life is becoming prime minister and then you have to see that that's made it can and by the middle of June France was defeated and I think the 22nd of June maybe France surrendered and that means every day for May The tend to lean middle of June the news from the front was horrific. And so whatever conversation they had. In the morning they got into a pattern that they knew in the afternoon they were going to talk again and things were going to be worse and that that's very hard work and that the work they were doing what I did I don't fault the film for this but I would like you to expand on it there is another movie out about the same period called Dunkirk and so to a certain extent the arrival of Dunkirk 1st makes this movie's storytelling easier because it captures the massive nature of the response of the British people but they underscore I think the resolve that Churchill put into them to do everything that they needed to do and and was it accurately and fulsomely that conveyed in your view in the darkest hour Churchill's direct involvement in the Dunkirk operation Yeah the dates are the last because you know Dunkirk was over by the end of the 1st week of June and this was over by the end of the last week of May this this political crisis in London so they didn't know quite as much about done Kirk as they appear to now in the film but they and see it's a doubt until you know June the 7th you know it's a doubt whether any soldiers are coming back and by the time by May the 28th there was worry about that right and the you know you people probably know that the British army didn't get back with its heavy equipment right it you know a modern army doesn't fight with pitchforks it fights with stuff that's really heavy and mechanical and important. And explosive and so they had to leave most of that stuff and so they come back in their stores in Britain and they but they did get most of their army back and so they're small and worse equipped than they were when the war started and that's a calculation because you know if you can you know if you can I I think that it would help facts and Neville Chamberlain to a lesser extent are responsible for things that are you know smarts their characters and careers right but most of those things happened in the 1930 s. When they should have got busy building some weapons because this guy was a killer Hitler and and so you know if you and I or anybody listening to this were in the war cabinet on the 23rd of May 940 reading the news and hearing what the generals are saying and you hear that Mussolini not yet in the war. But an ally of Hitler its noun is open to offering to host a peace conference you're going to take that seriously you have to right and Churchill himself gave it thought and and it went on for days and it was you know and it would just be an unreasonable position to rule that out of hand the minute you hear it because what it had to look like was maybe salvation. And so it you know and that means that these discussions we don't they didn't know it just like our lives right we all have to make decisions today some will be hard right and the they're made harder by the fact that we don't know about tomorrow and so none of these guys knew right and so they they all of them reached a decision church it was very cautious talking this he didn't he never endorsed the idea. But he did say and you know he also you discover for now that's the whole war cabinet conceiving them as a body with the same responsibility now think about Churchill's position the hierarchy that Hella factor Chamberlain Halifax stood atop had governed the Conservative Party since 922 and Churchill had been with them a number of the cabinet with them in the twenty's but Churchill and Chamberlin never really got along. And how facts neither edge and Churchill absolutely loathed Baldwin who was the mentor Chamberlain Yeah the guy that Chamberlain succeeded That's right and he did you know Bolton was a very clever man and one of his features was he always outmaneuvered Winston Churchill but so so there's He now he's the prime minister and the situation is difficult just think you know he began his premiership I have nothing to offer but blood to kill tears and sweat. And you know Chamberlain one of the reasons people became impatient with him was they had the sense that things were not going well on the continent with the war and he was not reporting that and they came to mistrust him and so then you get this shocking things said right and the speech is very short and Chris right and it makes plain in the last line that life itself is at stake and is the 1st hint in that speech on May 12th 13th it's the 1st hint that he might say we've got to fight to the death in the streets here even of the civilians because he's very you know he's believes in freedom and so so that is the situation and then he's sitting down with these guys and he's the prime minister now but they are great powers and he's got an old history with them and so this offer comes and see how the facts is the foreign minister. And that means this offer comes to Halifax he's the one having these discussions Churchill doesn't really have any power or time to have them he can he get insert himself maybe but there isn't a time and so how facts as is has is hands on the control of the information comes in and so you're sitting there on May the 23rd in your Winston Churchill and you look around the room and just now picture yourself there there are 4 other people in the room with you and you can't really count on India them and this word comes in and you can't know instantly what to think about it and so the criticism of the tension of that because because of how difficult that is to be in that situation when you don't win what you are seeing in your mind is German troops rolling through London right and and that's why it's that explains why Churchill was so radically bold and different than the others wanting to fight at the end by the 28th of May he gave this incredible speech you'll see in the movie so I'll tell you what the key phrase is he goes to the whole big cabinet and the pressures in the war cabinet are mounting and remember you've got to be worried Halifax or Chamberlain will resign as they do the government's going to break and and he he says to the cabinet at the end of his speech I've been thinking in these last few days whether it is part of my duty to open the Goetia should with that man meeting Hitler. But you can tell them people are pressing for it right he says and I believe that if I were for a moment to consider parley or surrender every one of. You would rise up every one of you and tear me down from this place where I sit. If this island story is to ended last let it in when each one of us here lies choking in his own blood upon the ground he said that in an ordinary conference or write the response well he records and others especially Hugh Dalton who kept notes of this or we wouldn't know what he says. You don't it was a left wing socialist member who happened to adore Winston Churchill and that and that they read the record is that they leapt up and rushed to the front of the table where Churchill was and mobbed him and cheered. He says Churchill I've never seen such a demonstration in a cabinet meeting in my life and think how old he 65 years old right he's been in government for decades and so that thing and it was after that that when the war cabinet reconvenes Chamberlain says that maybe we shouldn't do this because if we ever announce we're doing this will be on a slippery slope and we won't be able to stop and it stops it and that then before long how a fax to dispatch what to begin back to the United States I believe yeah and you know that's all fun because. Churchill was not at all of engine he Churchill was one of those guys if you happen to be Churchill supporter consistently for those many decades he'd been in power and there were very few of those by the way then you'd be heavily upset with him Churchill was extremely courteous to everybody especially Neville Chamberlain who did good deeds in these last days around the 28 Hold that thought will come back from break I want to talk about Neville Chamberlain also talk about Anthony Eden I've also been watching the crown of the thing time I think the darkest hour and I wash I'm going to ask Dr in a compare how Churchill comes between Chamberlain and Eden they are so different from the man they surround he is the high point they are the planes stay tuned America be right back with Dr Larry on but do take this time to run off to relief factor dot com The support for temporary relief of minor aches and pains is much on the mind of those of you who have been getting down Christmas decorations though the view have been carrying trees up steps those of you who may have taken a misstep with the ladder or so whatever you did if you hurt yourself or if you're just getting older too many Christmases than just another year and you just have aches and pains try really factor dot com support for the temporary relief of minor aches and pains and an all natural supplement put away everything else except what your doctor has prescribed for you I never want anyone to stop taking prescription meds but if you got over the. 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Welcome back America jury here at concluding the radio week with the whole tale dialogue Dr Larry are in is the present Hilldale college you can find all things Hillsdale Hilldale dot edu all of these conversations including a 12 part series on Churchill from 2 years ago are collected at who for Hillsdale dot com Dr r. Is part of the official Church of biographical team in. They'll tell no one has custody and ship of many of the papers around which the project of collecting all Churchill's papers revolves doctor and I just want to go back a lot of America has watched the crown and they're not in the season 2 of the Crown in season one included an old Churchill giving way to not old but not as young Anthony Eden Eden was at his side in the movie The darkest hour and it struck me that it was a good portrayal of Eden in both the movie and the t.v. Series and a good portrayal of Neville Chamberlain and that they're both the same guy either actor could have played either guy and Churchill arrives in between them he really is an aberration from the Old Etonian. Chamberlain even variety of any Yeah well even how in fact Chamberlain looked like prime ministers and if you wonder what that is I mean they look like Senators most. Just don't look like senators but we see one who does know that guy looks like a sensor and so those guys look the part and Churchill was 5 foot 8 I like to say exactly my height and he was a little round guy you know he was very athletic and slender for most of his life but by the time all this stuff happens he's well past 60 and so he was he was knowledge here's something different about it. None of those. People go around saying that guy's a genius right and not nearly as many people about in the of them around saying that guy's untrustworthy Churchill had much more of both of those things then the 3 others combined and you know he just was sparkling and and people resented that and didn't trust him there is a scene in the movie about the inverted v. And what it might mean and whether or not it did mean that among the lower classes and he is given 2 rockets laughter at himself for having. Ventured off of the proven trail of communications there he was given to that kind of mirth that his own actions he was so you know I'll say a word for you know I happen to know him like a lot on quite a long time and I just admire him very much and admire him as an actor and one of the things about him is if you just look at his various roles the theme in them is he's trying to be like what he's playing so he wanted to be like Winston Churchill I saw an interview with him last night from some time in the last month where he talks about and he and I had talked about this about how Churchill is played Churchill was there yes right I mean Art I was famous if you were my husband I would poison your coffee if you were my wife I would drink it he replied in front of a big crowd and instantly. The guy just sparkled with wit right and his face there's testimony when he thought of the thing he was about to say his face would just light up if you knew him you know that's a signal something great about to happen coming just as so oh man Gary Oldman captures that another thing is although Churchill was $65.00 and Churchill lived until 1950. 590 years old when he died. He Churchill could still move and Churchill had been a fencer champion fencer at Eton and Harrow and so he we use I am getting about he can get about and so in this and you know they play this guy who's you know stumbles or you know for the halting steps and he's got his chin down and he's talking into his chest and he's growing all the time right but Martin Gilbert Robert Robert Hardy gave a very good performance of Churchill in the wilderness years it's called a documentary in the seventy's in Britain which is the best thing about Churchill except this movie in my opinion and Martin Gilbert helped with that and he took Robert Hardy who died lightly by the light was a great man took him out to dinner and got him laughing at Churchill stories and then he suddenly stopped and said Do you think that the man who told those stories when around scowling all the time. He doesn't but in the movie he doesn't that's what I want to convey to people is as with Daniel Day Lewis and Lincoln you get a chance to sit with Churchill for a bit and to of watched him as you might have watched him as a scared member of the British society as Hitler marches and your boys are trapped and your world is falling apart this guy turns it around and 1st he begins with you through the radio I just I love the fact that they show him in the b.b.c. With a red light right up into the minute of a coming on I love every part about it Dr Larry are and we will talk more good luck with Gary Oldman today path on the congratulations from us at the Hugh Hewitt Show and our hopes that he has a great speech ready for the Oscars and I will be seeing you tomorrow Morning America on m.s.n. b C talking about the tax bill talking about the new national security strategy talking about Alabama talking about everything to do not miss tomorrow morning at 8 am Eastern on m.s.n. B.c. 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