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Older there's never been a more beautiful day to speak truth to power glad you were here for 03 Jenna Ellis enough house for the gift that is 3 of 360-6171 we have a lot to do today generously just sit here talking about we're going to start on a day like today you've got Al Franken you know doing a essential moving press conference and that a target rich environment that rolls right into the latest with Judge Roy Moore will he or won't he should he or shanty is that a word John as some other person university it is now it is now but I can't be right there and yes it definitely is Old English I would think some would say Kanti the president issued a campaign for Roy Moore and what a perfect opportunity to talk about that with Jenna in studio since her big piece in The Federalist which essentially said whoa hold on a 2nd here is the case been proven has received so much national attention so will roll Franken into more you'll have a healthy dose of Palosi in there as thank the good Lord above she decided to try to defend the indefensible once again this case in the form of one John Conyers an icon she calls him I guess that means if you're an icon you can take meetings with female staffers in. Your underwears and how it works now is that what I kind means apparently according to pull o.c. Which I mean healthy dose I don't know if there's ever really a healthy dose of the but it just it was so hypocritical completely and just to say that if somehow you've attained a certain status than that means you are exempt or immune from any of the consequences that's essentially what she was thing well you are such a nice and such a kind person. That you call it hypocritical I would respectfully suggest that to be more precise we just need to call it dishonest hypocritical is letting these people off way too easy it is just flat out dishonest and I think that's what the American people see that these Democrats the left I should say not the rank and file Democrats are just flat out dishonest they say they care about women they champion women blah blah blah blah blah and they really don't in Palosi thank goodness decided deliver this Doocy also defying 0 tolerance you said there's now a 0 tolerance John Conyers what does that mean for him right out of let's say in or out we are strengthened by due process just because someone is accused if you talk about it were an accusation is that too I think there has to be John Conyers is an icon in our country he has done a great a great deal to protect when that Violence Against Women Act which the left wing right wing is now quoting is praising him for his work on that he did great work on that but the fact is. As John reviews his case which he knows which I don't I believe he will but you don't believe that he was sick and she's going to finish my sister that he will do the right thing and it's the right thing what was are but that he will do the right thing in terms of what he knows about his situation that he's entitled to due process but women are Rita and title to due process as well demure lot of due process talk from are more you know noted I'm going to be doing more fans but I did not hear her talking due process for Roy and none of the Democrats did. Even a lot of the rank and file conservative g.o.p. Did not either and they said will do process is just in a courtroom environment it's not in the court of public opinion because there are so many women who have stepped forward he just should resign now and step aside but now when one of their own in the Democratic Party is having these allegations then suddenly the process matters and it's interesting to see the political bias depending on who we're talking about and so there's a clear agenda against Roy Moore and a clear agenda for the Democrats and as we go to the phone lines here please don't tell him please don't wake them up it this is so so seismic in terms of what it may mean for the political landscape this dishonesty of the Democrats this hypocritical in kid sister whatever you want to call it conduct when it comes to women not just because it reveals them to be liars but because it has the potential and Jenna This is one thing I really want to get your take on in the caller's take his well it is the potential to undermine them with women in a way nothing else on the landscape does right now and if you can do that because when Democrats still win which isn't that often it's too often but it isn't that often in that many places when they still win Gena they're winning because of margins with whom women with women without women so this has the potential to expose them to expose them for who they really are when it comes to women they are not the friend of women in fact when you truly look at the conduct of the Democratic Party since it came under the control of the left it is very anti anti women in practice Jack you were to an agenda 710 cane us good afternoon thank you. You know it's a pleasure to talk to 2 attorneys I have a question for you but what about your bill was it not or not you can you can. You can people go through I'm working hard I'm doing well it's wonderful one like you're here but. On the Lee Courtland story some new information is coming out now the whole story started where her mom lost her outside the courtroom proceedings that the mom was going to attend with a strange man now the court room the the hearing the mom is going to was a custody hearing where she was going to surrender to full of her daughter to her divorce husband. Is it reasonable for me to think that the court would want that 14 year old girl in that courtroom certainly say she was happy with the transfer of the parent who authority or the just seems like why wouldn't a great question and thank you for posing it is it seems very plausible to me the opposite that the court would want her out of the courtroom during some particularly delicate conversation yeah I would agree with that and it really depends on what's going on in the case and if she was actually testifying the 14 year old the then there can be a 2nd straight sheen of witnesses there can be all kinds of different things that may arise and so whether or not that's that's plausible it would really depend in my opinion on the circumstances of the case and so that in and of itself probably isn't a basis to say the stories false Yeah and I don't characters family law myself Jack but I can tell you that the one thing I do know for sure is is that these judges are constantly looking to protect the child best interests of the child etc so and a child at that age and again I don't practice family law but a child at that age I think would have very few legal rights when it comes to the right to be in the courtroom for any aspect of that proceeding Ok Dan let me follow up a quick so would your wife that if you were going to be in court your wife is going to be in court and you had a minor daughter would you you think your wife or any woman that listens to your radio show would so you know the strange man you know you can watch my daughter but that seems preposterous all but but under that accusation he's not a strange man he's he's a district attorney I mean that's the 1st person a monstrous a priest to be the 1st person the 2nd person to be the d.a. Right now in Amman know without. Who Well I don't remember the way the stories written but I thought it was inherent in the story that right more it came up and said that he was a a da a deputy da whatever he was at the time right and it's not unusual when in the criminal context or in the Family Law context as well to leave children or other witnesses even if they're younger with someone like a victim witness advocate who works for the D.A.'s office or a da I've been a da That happens all the time good point what have you not been anytime a topic comes. Up with a racecar driver you are room one in b 3 years ago and it's all true. You know I've led an interesting post interesting also he said of all the horses then quote you. If your water bill will move you know I have really not dug into her you may have a better idea Chana I know that she had just appeared personally a week or 10 days ago when it looked like Judge Moore was regaining his footing and starting to get back in the race so she appeared publicly I think to try to to stop his momentum but I just don't know much about her background I don't either and I think when assessing credibility it's a really interesting thing to look at and contemplate because you have someone who may be different in front of the cameras verses when they're actually testifying in a courtroom which is a very sterile in sort of synthetic environment versus when they're just talking on the phone with a friend and so assessment of credibility I don't necessarily think we could assess it one way or the other just based off of a t.v. Interview that to me seems very very staged but at the same time that doesn't necessarily negate her credibility what to me as an attorney matters is whether or not you have proof or anything else that substantiates your allegation and just the context of this and the timing of this cast doubt in my opinion but it doesn't really have anything to do. Necessarily with assessing her credibility as an individual I don't think I have enough information I don't think anybody has enough information at this point which is why I've continued to say due process actually matters Jack recall man really appreciate there's a guy reads his stuff thinks about it it's better Pritchett to call 3 I guess there's a reason why 6971 the number so right now for 13 on a beautiful Monday afternoon won't be such a beautiful Tuesday. Really more guilty or not. We don't have the 14 and now I'm not talking about that Jenna I'm talking about the allegation of the 14 year old more likely guilty more likely not guilty I'm going to say at this point with what we know more likely not guilty only because we don't have enough credible evidence for the proponents of evidence to shift in her direction and we have to remember that that the claim itself bears the burden of proof and if we shifted that and don't give him the presumption of innocence then we're negating everything that the law is about yet and we have some great sound from you you had on Burden of Proof and we'll play that in a bit but I think that is though it's outside the legal courtroom I think in the court of public opinion it's a fair way to approach it as well this this more likely than not standard we all know in a true criminal prosecution where you're looking to put somebody in jail etc would be beyond a reasonable doubt but in the court of public opinion I think most people apply that more likely than not so Al Franken boy there is so much good well I can't say good Al Franken today there's interesting Al Franken sound where do we begin he doesn't intentionally do what. I do not know I do not remember he is it again I take pictures with thousands of people I would never intentionally do that what with that being gravel but all that suggests to me is he must grab so many women's behinds in so many pictures that it's just not memorable that he does there are that's exactly what that sounds like I mean I've taken a ton of pictures I mean I'm a millennial we do the whole selfie game and all that yeah and I have never had if somebody asked me in all of your pictures have you ever grabbed someone's butt I would very clearly be able to immediately say No no I'll get some point people out there well. But I mean maybe I don't know but that's what I want what do you mean there's maybe I don't know. You know I don't know maybe I don't know if I did know some of these beyond that point but I don't know we have it so your base on me there's a chance they're all one of the great lines ever this is so good we're not on television right now because I'm totally turning right and you know it's a good look and you know I hope to harness and again I say that in the context of this great sound we have from President Trump today on Pocahontas and then the lavatory seat at the board firing back so we'll get to that shortly as well so I only said it in that context but my wife actually it's family legend but I think this one unlike war Churchills family legend this one is probably true that there's a relationship to Pocahontas that my wife's family line goes back to Pocahontas and I think you can certainly see that in her she's definitely has a good chunk of Native American like enough that she could have used it on college apps but she did not she did not it was their reason she didn't I have to ask her that because it came up in connection with their kids I mean because she does have a significant Native American lineage the question was Ok the kids are x. Percent should they use that in college apps and both kids said no we don't want to go anywhere near that that's for and we all agreed on this No That's for folks who have been disadvantaged throughout their life because of you know getting to have a relative and because my I think and I'd have to ask my parents I think it was my dad's great grandmother if I'm remembering correctly that was 100 percent Cherokee one so I mean I have some native american probably more than Elizabeth Warren to be a 1000 times more like her chill yeah and a 1000000 times more than Elizabeth Warren because she's in that Churchill camp right they've never been able to document anything Frank Yeah but I was proud of our kids attitude and you know it's not like we were pushing at the question just came up through a college counselor to use that you know it's for people who've been disadvantaged that's one thing that was so repulsive about Ward Churchill using it it's see you. 1st in my opinion it was completely fraudulent but then you're taking a position from from somebody who is a true Native American and we all know how abuse Native Americans have been in this country right now and not my wife but I mean you know Native Americans who live who have lived that life and people who actually live the life and identify and have a significant part of their heritage in Hamley history I mean just being a because I think a lot of Americans we because this is the great melting pot we have a lot of different threads of of different lineage and all of that that we have and so how we use that I think what your kids did was was correct because it's not something that's actually the the full measure of what that's intended for which brings us to the Trump thing in the Pocahontas thing and we will get to that in the next segment but truly one reason that I can't imagine a scenario where she would be president of United States so let's hope she is the damn nominee if she can somehow knock off Hillary but I can't imagine a scenario where she'd have any chance to get elected because that is fraud I mean she used that to advance and it's fraudulent and you know that's that's just one of the worst things I think somebody can do you know when when so many true Native Americans have been so mistreated throughout 361619711 number what's so interesting about all of this too is that you look at people like Senator Warren and then you look at all of these sexual assault allegations and all of this stuff and really what are the consequences because we don't have term limits because we don't have any sort of process that's actually going to happen to any of these people I mean it's just it's an interesting phenomenon that we can all know Ok you lied you you're calling yourself you know Native American and lying on that all of these things that are coming to light yet there's really no consequence I mean if Al Franken doesn't want to step down what's going to happen. Yeah but when you say termites and believe me I appreciate fully respect all the good arguments in favor of term limits I don't think the founding fathers and mothers envisioned anything like what we have now but at the same time isn't that infringing on the freedom of the people on the will of the people to elect whoever the blank they want to I don't think that I mean if you have it term limits doesn't necessarily negate the right to vote among the options I mean we even saw that on in the 2016 election that we had a very close universe of options and the people's right to vote is actually a privilege in our system of government it's not an absolute right if our system changed then we wouldn't necessarily have the privilege of voting I'm glad that we do we have that aspect of democracy but imposing term limits I mean when the Constitution 1st was created senators were actually elected 3 state legislatures and I think the best way to deal with this is to repeal the 17th Amendment you want to go back to 0 times like just good as very and I think there are some great guys have been sandbagging me homely cow. You really want to do I think it would be much better is my head like literally exploding now are these headphones just like expanding out are they going to snap 1st or is my skull you really want to go there I do actually and I think that the 17th Amendment for the reasons that the founders insulated us from direct democracy and the House of Representatives and the Senate were supposed to be separate and serve different purposes and so the states having sovereignty were supposed to have some measure of representation in the Senate and that's why you have all of the things like advice and consent of the Senate not the House of Representatives with your permission I would love to explore this further after the break because it seems so diametrically opposed like totally backwards to the whole idea of big citizens small government why in the world would we want to empower the political elites with even more with even more of our decision making and take that out of the hands of the people but one thing you know about channel is she doesn't say anything without having a good argument to back it up I can't wait to hear this one Bob Bacon you are going through a break big fella. I can do Ok appreciate that through 36961971 when we come back Bob and Jenna Ellis trying to tell us why we should give the power to elect senators to elected legislators rather than keep it with the people and we listen believe it you know us we're not going to bog down in some academic kind of discussion but we need to talk about this because there are others pushing what we do have for you lots of sound of Al Franken and this is just almost too good to be true here with an agenda 710 cane us. 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I you know and and again I apologize to her and she graciously accepted my apology and you're still calling her a liar that's exactly what he's doing is calling her a liar he knows if he admits to the truth he'd be admitting to an assault and whether to be a sex assault some places and not others we know in the real world it's a sex assault but he would be admitting to legally at least an assault so he can't admit to that So think about what he's doing all the feminists out there all that all the lefties all the Democrats with all the Democratic Party protégés protector of women weren't women comes from the g.o.p. Al Franken is his own walking war on women. And he absolutely is and for him to say well I recall that experience differently if more because he enjoyed it she did and he still conducting his war on her he's calling her liar and exactly what he's calling her Bobby with an agenda $710.00 Cain us thanks for stand through the break. So I just kind of got it it's a little late I'm not exactly sure what you guys are talking about but I do I did have some opinions on some of your positions with regards to it seems like if the person is a Democrat and he's a horrible awful person Al Franken. And method that are apologize and say you know I didn't feel that it was the way that you felt but if you felt that way I apologize accepted his apology and she was so upset about that he went to several other events later on without direct and there's pictures of her hanging and laughed Frank then after this all after their kids that compose the bully offend her so bad. You know she's been around him sent then and so do you doubt her allegation do you like Al Franken believes she's a liar or I don't think Al Franken believes she's a liar because Al Franken knows he's guilty but he's willing to call her a liar to try to save his own hide so do you think she's lying I know and I don't think Al thinks he is why I didn't want to see keep saying that he remembers the rehearsal differently do you do you really think I mean because she's either lying or she's not there's no opportunity for gray area when your allegation is he came up he grabbed me by the back of the neck he smashed my lips into his and he stuck his tongue down my throat There's no gray area there she's either lying or that happened you know that he's saying that that happened but what he's saying is that he did not know that that was so offensive to her at the time have you have you know he is not that may not be offensive I mean I have never been in a situation where angry like I'm not an actress or anything but I have never been in a situation where sound like just a male colleague comes and grabs me by the neck and forcibly cases mean stick his tongue down my throat that would be offenses no matter. Do you are at all I mean that's just I agree with you in that there is no gray area there no you're right there is no gray area to what happened but the way that she felt about it versus the way you thought oh no not if it but you're very brave Bob I've got to admire your attempt at spin here no even well let me thought well then you know that listening to having him you can see it on our mission I don't know maybe it's there but let me just respond to one point though and then talk all you want this is this is the highlight of our lives here is the point is El Franken has never ever admitted that those physical actions occurred so when Al Oh please tell us whenever we we actually have Google right here you know when you where did he admit it he he he he's not denying that he kissed her a huge denying or he said that he felt that it was all in good fun at the time have you ever you've never been in a situation where you you can perhaps get a joke and thought it was funny and the person that you did the joke to or with by what have you and up you find you find out later on that that really upset him but not in the form of intimate physical contact No I can honestly tell you I never had been part of the skit that was that they were going to perform he did you did you read her version of events have you heard her allegation now for her or her allegation everybody listening knows what it is so I won't spend much time geisha is that he kept pass he wrote the kids into the scene and then he kept pestering her to quote unquote rehearse and everybody and any adult would understand any teenager would understand what he was really trying to do her plan was to then turn away and have him kiss or cheek at the last minute before she could do that he grabbed the back of her neck forced her head into his smashed her lips against his and stuck his tongue down her throat Ok but but but up to that point she would never told him No I don't want to have that kid do you have to do. Do I have to say by the way I'm putting every male on notice that you can't forcibly grab me by the neck and I mean that that's why we have laws against this is because the law should put you on notice I shouldn't have to actually tell all of the men out there by the way please don't do this so there then that number make and everybody in every day life but true but when you're talking about a performer going over on the u.s.o. Tour there's no right there is no exception there is no exception they are today they said if you were not culpable of the what they said then to them yet you say that if if they if a performer if Al Franken had written in a rape scene and had gone and had raped her and saying well this was just practice with that it might seem to me from that law that the part of the threat that you think no no no no no think so what do you thought I mean I don't know not I don't we don't think this is well like I said she would seem to care about her or that she was really upset and she was didn't want to be around him for a while and then there's pictures of her and nude on her l. Hole and how you are not going to let you get away with that what you're talking Well Bob what you're talking about the thing is you leave out another part of the truth in order to misrepresent what we see what you're talking about is other pictures taken on that tour when she is Ok hold on to say while she's on a stage entertaining people and then at the end of the trip she finds out when she gets home and sees the photos from the flight back that he has his hands on her breast while she's sleeping so you now are saying there are other pictures at later points in time that would not surprise me given her explanation but but so you do think she's line because why else would you raise that. Well we lost Bob I guess he either had a bad cell connection or not a good answer for that because I thought her explanation made perfect sense you know she didn't want to blow the whistle on him because it would end her career she'd get blackballed etc So it would not surprise me at all if there were pictures of her smiling around him after that I haven't seen those myself I don't know that that is true because Bob seems to make some stuff up yeah but you hope you call back and it's a very interesting dynamic that we're experiencing now in this whole wake of the Harvey Weinstein thing because women are now feeling like they can come forward when there is a lot of pressure in a lot of different environments and I'm sure in Hollywood to just go along with whatever and whether or not that actually is consent or not I think is the most interesting question because if someone if a woman says you know what this this was absolutely terrible it was horrific but she goes along with it in order to advance her career then that to me makes her complicit and I and I think that there is and it's not that you have to report everything but I think that if you're willing to still stay around that and you're still willing you can't have remorse just after the fact if you're not willing to stand up and say this this is wrong at least privately here's why I would disagree maybe there's area for agreement in here but the reason I disagree is if a woman feels and if it whether it's a single mom working the counter at loaf and Jug no intent there with love from shop or if it's say an aspiring actress in Hollywood or even a well known actors who wants that key role if they sincerely feel like they must give in in order to keep their job or get a job to me I don't think they're complicit at all I consider that a form of rape and so. 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Yeah well and I think there is some room for agreement because if it's essentially pressuring them in order to to continue on with their with their current They're in a double bind there it's a choice of evils essentially And I think there is a lot of compulsion and there's been a lot of unwillingness there on behalf of the women but at the same time they could walk away I mean we're not talking you know without severe consequence fine you can walk away but but and I'm sure I'm even more sympathetic I'm sympathetic in every example but even more sympathetic in the case of the single mom working at the gas station Yeah she has the right to walk away and not give that manager the sexual favor he's demanding if she wants to keep her job and get the paycheck to keep that apartment for her young children but if she walks away she walks away with with horrific consequences for her so I consider that a form of rape now apply it to the Hollywood actress who Ok maybe now she's looking for the big break or looking to stay on top it to me it's the same thing she doesn't really have the freedom to walk away yes physically she can walk away but then she has to pay a price which is to not make millions in Hollywood Well I mean I think I think there is and I'm not saying that these people if the allegations are true shouldn't be prosecuted but what I'm saying is I think it's a very interesting question to talk about consent to because really she's getting a benefit from it and Jenna she's not getting a benefit she's being spared. A theft she's being spared a deprivation she's being spared an unfair that it seems they have been titled glue that job to begin Well right and that's the assumption here is that with that single mom working in the gas station and everybody listening can think of a 1000 other example it sounds a little bit different and I think that when when someone already has a job and then someone comes in and their supervisor you know does that kind of an action him. That's a little bit different than if someone comes and says you know hey if you will like the allegations against Harvey Weinstein saying hey if you grant these favors all make sure you get x.y.z. Job that's really just a different form of payment and I think we're just talking a difference of degree here and we're starting with the most extreme the single mom was going to lose her job if she doesn't give a sexual favor to the creek manager Ok I have to it to me that's that's I don't know if it's prosecutable criminally Craigs the expert on that not me and you as well Jen Ellison expert in criminal law I don't know if that's criminally prosecuted well as a sex assault but if it's not it should be and in each It can be but the defense to that would then be well it was it was consent depending on the circumstance and so as if a hand if you get a sex offense so can you not now we get up another grade where we're talking about the single mom who so desperately needs the money comes in in interviews for the job but the only way she can get the job is to give the sexual favor to the creek manager to me it's different in degree but it still falls under that umbrella but how is that any different than just out and out prostitution really I mean if you're coming you're just it's just a different form of pain Well it you know I mean we're talking about a situation where she dollar wise be qualified in title to the job but that the male in this example I'm sure there are some reverse in R.E.O.'s the male in this example is abusing his power to require a bribe to require payment in the form of sex let's talk about that some more with our callers after the break Bob is back looks like he had a bad cell connection or but in the line we promise to get on air in the next segment I do hope and boy it is starting to feel a bit more like we're getting toward the end of the year now that we have turkey day under our belt so a great time to talk to Brad Jenkins a chicken's wealth management group as you know Brad is one of the sponsors here on the Dan Kaplan show this is a paid indorsement He's also a host on weekends tremendous show Saturdays at 2 but when you think end of the year stuff you know think of Brad. 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Good tan is your jitters next and break this with film phrased as a I'm Cody is this is neck out to. Be and bonafide holiday singers like that Michael Bay life owl are also here to wish you a Happy. Healthy holidays from all of us at the honey smoke patient pretty well what you waiting for match reality. Cosco super safe when Seems club. Going to. Come down on our free moment and listen to some intense wonderful. Anywhere message and. Stimulating talk with cam. But I also want to ask about his support of the me and for. Sure it was inexcusable what was going on in that photo. You know what my intention was doesn't matter what matters is that I am ashamed of that photo. She. Is. You know she didn't have any ability to consent she had every right to feel. By that photo. I have apologized to her. And I was very grateful that she accepted my apology that that's. That's what I said my intent doesn't matter what matters it is is is that. She felt the way she felt some just sort of kept on wishing Ok horses intent matters of course is intent matters that's the entire basis of criminal law and if you just shift it back to what the perception of the alleged victim is and then we get into a whole host of problems of course his intent matters and for him to push that aside and go for these kind of warm Fuzzy Zoeller we've reconciled is absolutely ridiculous at the same time remember he keeps calling her a liar on part one of her allegation which is grabs her by the back of the neck forces her lips into his sticks his tongue down her throat he's just calling her a liar and that he isn't using the l. Word he just says oh I remember it differently same thing is calling her a liar so to me that compounds the offense but we haven't even been able to get to sort of what I think is the main question on Al Franken which is should the g.o.p. Try to expel him or is he doing more good for conservatism by damaging the left every day he remains in the Senate can he hang on I don't think that the question should be what good or bad he's doing from the g.o.p. It should be whether or not this happened have him go through that process have an investigation and the Senate by their own rules can expel him and I think they should they should conduct an investigation get to the truth of it and ultimately they should expel more guard lists of what that does to the g.o.p. Because we need to be concerned about truth yeah yeah no well no of course we need to be concerned about truth but what I'm looking at here is and I know you are too how passionately you're committed to these issues and you devote a big chunk of your life to prevailing on them but when we're talking about literally millions of lives at stake when we talk about the life issue when we talk about the stakes and all of these other big things Obamacare pick whatever one you want off the tree to me I'm really focused on on 1st and foremost winning. On those issues because let's face it when it comes to it we're always going to have some dishonest people in the Senate we're always going to have some bombs some will be Democrats some will be Republican we're always going to have some of that which doesn't mean we should greenlight it but at the same time if you're telling me I can take my choice I can either have a better chance of winning on all these big issues because Al Franken is sitting there in the Senate rotting away like a human stink bomb you know covering the entire left every single days there or we can of the Senate declare its purity by throwing them out I'd rather win on the issues I think that that presupposes that Al Franken will do so much damage that it will actually help the progress agenda and all that which I don't know that there's necessarily enough evidence for that at this point but secondly that's a very utilitarian approach to that and I would disagree with that from a from an integrity perspective to say we're guard list of what that does to the g.o.p. Agenda we need to be concerned about consequences and about and following we're the truth ultimately leads and recognizing that the rules of the Senate do provide for this and even though yeah you get some characters in there that are that are bad actors there's not always enough evidence or enough reason to expel them here it's pretty clear Well let's say that a state and believe me I think Al Franken is awful I mean an awful c. Understatement of the millennium in so many different ways even without this kind of behavior he's awful in lots of other ways but let's say a state that's a very prominent state elected somebody who had been a convicted rapist and they elected that person because the people of that state felt that individual had had reformed and had you know found God I say that in a sincere way and it changed his life with the Senate then have a right to throw that rapist out convicted admitted rape I think there's a difference between. Someone's passed and having already gone through due process than having an allegation come out now and there are allegations that he tapped this kind of conduct while he was in the Senate and so that changes the analysis and so you can't just say well if there's one misdeed in the past and I'm not meaning to minimize people who are convicted of those types of grievous sexual assault but having gone through and reform have paid your debt to society that shouldn't be held against you forever that's a very very fundamentally different than having these allegations while he was a senator coming up but let's say and I want to get to the phone lines but let's say that Al Franken Al Franken he goes before this committee where again most claims just go to die allegations he goes before the committee they find Yeah he is guilty of a b. C. And d. And then Franken says but I've reformed I've apologized look at the polls in my 30 days and they don't want me to leave at that point of the Senate still thrown out in order to vindicate the purity of the Senate I would say at that point yes because you're going through due process right there is a measure of the Senate it's not talking about something that happened prior to the persons allegedly and then you will different We'll come back and apply it to write more because even though you and I have a different view of him perhaps in general at the same time I've always felt if the people of Alabama elected him you know at that point it would be wrong for the Senate to expel him but to add to the phone lines the lovely Karen here with Dan and Jenna $710.00 can us Hey Karen Hi Karen Hi Dan it's Phil Long time since I called you and you really got me going Hi Jenna Hi It was wonderful and fascinating conversation to hear. The woman and myself included I love hearing your tough mindedness Gena what I don't hear enough and I fully understand why a man would want to give every consideration to the woman I think it's a noble and gentlemanly but in this particular discussion we are not holding women accountable for any of their decisions and I started the it like a fallacy in bargain. You're presented in life with all kinds of in bargains What are you willing to do for this that or the other thing every woman you know I'm not saying is good it's right I have not condoning such behavior but tell me that these women in Hollywood don't know the environment that they're walking into Yeah I agree with you here and willing to make choices but no wait a 2nd I know when I'm walking into a tough neighborhood but does that mean it's Ok to shoot me that's no different that's a totally different scenario but if you were going and you were complicit in say like a drug dealer something going into a rough neighborhood and you actually have a bargain for exchange then you can't say oh well just because I'm the you're not the dealer then somehow that should exempt you from liability I mean these are 2 total logic different cases now it's unfair in love too fast now wait a 2nd it let let let go to your idol or analogy outlet and Karen can you stay over the break I don't want to cut you short here and I think this is an important conversation for those who just joined us my position is whether it's the single mom working in the gas station in the Crete manager demands a sexual favor to keep the job or anywhere else on the scale right up to that the Hollywood on the brink of stardom young lady who's told Ok if you want that part you know where the casting couch is if you want it that's the key there there right but but in my opinion in every one of those cases along the spectrum of the guy is absolutely wrong and there should be legal penalties as well and the woman does not bear any fault in my view Jenna and Karen apparently ganging up on me here disagrees so we'll cycle back to that at the top of the hour hopefully get other women on that as well I know we have one waiting on the line right now in Marie So we'll start the next hour with that procedure being or we have lots more ahead of course all of this Al Franken sound this is so my. 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