Good morning everyone. Im scott mcgrew. I want you to look at my first guest. He is pierre jon, and he carries a deep flaw not easy to is spot. He has his good points. Hes got an mba and he spends hundreds of volunteer hours working with charities started two companies. The most recently is ecolabs which has created jobs, pays taxes and has 1. 5 million in the bank. But back to his flaw. There is no delicate way to say this. Pj is belgian something he inherited from his parents. This means he came within a breath of being kicked out of the United States after his student visa ran out after a Huge Campaign let pj stay he got the coveted visa. But that was thanks to sheer luck. Thanks for being with us this morning. Rich jaroslavsky from smart news joins us and levi sumagasay from the smart beat. This frustrates the hell out of me, this idea that people create jobs in the United States and then we think we should send them back to their home countries. I think we ought to keep them. I assume you think the exact same thing. Youre correct. How difficult was it and how did you end up getting an h 1 b . You have to be employed by somebody to get that . Im employed by my company. Yeah, but you created your company. I did. But in order to be eligible for the h 1 b we had do things like get a board of directors. We had to change our corporate titles. We had to we have to be fireable in a way. And thats how we can get an h 1 b. Or at least how i got mine. But your founder did not. Correct. Cofounder. So it well, the h 1 b is a lottery. This year, there were 85,000 visas available but 233,000 people applied so the math is easy. The odds are not in your favor. I got lucky, my cofounder didnt. Which is a huge issue for our company because we obviously go as a pair. So if he cant get some other form of visa, then well have to go. Now, do you think you got lucky or do you think having the campaign let pj stay had anything to do with it . I dont know. Its when did you find out . So i found out about two weeks ago. Its a twostep process. First thats the lottery and then theres a sort of an Investigation Called i forget the actual legal term but its basically uscys will ask some questions regarding your company to determine if its legitimate. We didnt get that. So i dont know if it was luck or if we forced our luck. But it only worked for half of the founding team. Go back to that. Youre not going to stay here without your cofounder. Right. Where were you going to go can . Good question. So i dont want to go back to europe. We started the company in Silicon Valley for very good reasons. But we we have to find a place that is good enough to also build a company and so we have been thinking about vancouver. You know, the town pool maybe is not as good as Silicon Valley, but at least they have a startup visa which is something we could qualify for pretty easily. Actually pretty interesting. What they do is they have outsourced the decision to the private sector in canada. So they ask you, you know if you can get a support letter from a canadian Venture Capital form, angel group or an incubator then you can get a visa. Whats ironic i understand youre saying you dont want to go to canada, because all the really talented engineer base is in the San Francisco and bay area. What would be worse is losing you to canada, is if you convinced a number of talented engineers in San Francisco bay area to follow you and wed be triple hurt or quadruple hurt just by the way that we have set up these policies. Yeah. I mean, its already hard to find excellent engineers here. Because theres so much demand. Honestly, im not sure i could convince my team to move to canada. You know its a bit of a trip. Enough money you could. Let me back up for a second. Let me make sure i understand something. You founded this company, so you are creating jobs, but you yourself wouldnt even have been allowed to stay whether you want to or not unless you could be fired by the company that you started in order to create jobs for others. Mmhmm. Thats exactly right. Wheres the logic in that . I dont know. Thats what im trying to figure out. Thats one type of visa. So its h 1 b which is generally more suited for people who are employed by, you know, small and big companies, not necessarily for founders. Theres another visa that potentially is as an option for microfounder which is a visa for exceptional individuals. But thats generally more suited for those with noble prices and model theyre covered under that visa as an exceptional person. Im not joking or making this up. Anyone who can prove that theyre in the top, you know, 5 or 10 of their field, regardless of their field. Justin bieber. He has he may have. Immigration reform. What would you do . I mean so realizing we cant just open the doors and let the entire world in although theres an argument maybe we could, but lets say were not going to do that, how would you set it up a guy who goes to stanford gets his mba, gets a company, employs people gets to stay. What would be the criteria be if you were president of the United States, which you cant do. Unfortunately. One thing you cant do in america. Theres potentially ways to make this objective. Right now theres no visa that works for the entrepreneur. So you can create one. I can get a green card but i dont want to do that. But the way to make it objective, figure out what makes a good entrepreneur or potentially a good entrepreneur. I think theres a lot of things you can look at. You can look at how much capital has been raised by the company, how many jobs have been created. You can look at patent portfolio. Theres plenty of metrics that are fairly objective that you can look at to determine if someone has a chance of success in this country. The question is where do you draw the line but you have to least start with a line. Ask the last question. This process cant be cheap to try to stay in the country. Do you have any idea about how much you and your cofounder have spent on immigration lawyers, whatever you had to do in order to try to stay in the u. S. . I think it will probably end up costing us maybe 40, 50 k total. 40 or 50,000 and youre still likely to end up moving some place else . Its still possible. When will you make a decision . When will you know yes, we are moving ecolabs out of palo alto right . Yeah. Were moving out of palo alto and going to canada or wherever. When will you make that decision . So we have been so far on a basically a temporary visa. An extension on a student visa. Right. From stanford. Right. Once you graduate you get a year or two to figure something out. So that visa runs out june 30th of this year. So thats basically the route it its taking for us. Now im okay but my cofounder, if we dont have something by june 30th, thats it. We have 50 days to leave the country. Thats the grace period that you get after the you know a specific visa ends. Pj thank you for being with us this morning and we hope you are here some time in the future. Thank you. I appreciate it. Press here will be back in a minute. Welcome back to press here. My next guest needs to get on a bus to mexico. Matt dalio is headed south with a specially built bus to bring computing to developing economies through endless computer, a kickstarter funded project. It will give computers to the growing middle class all over the world. Easy to use pc. Matt dalio is the youngest ever recipient of the fulbright award, started his First Charity at 16. Fluent in mandarin. Even Oprah Winfrey said hes a big deal. Thank goodness you are not belgian. I can stay. Exactly. Thanks for being with us. I remember one laptop per child. Nicholas negroponte is an adviser for you. This not for the working poor. You dont imagine this in the poorest of sections but rather this sudden growth of this middle class all over the world. Yeah. 40 years ago, a term was coined called the Economic Pyramid and then the world looked like a pyramid. Today, a couple billion people have been brought to the middle of the pyramid. Most people are not in poverty. Most are in the global middle class. They have shelter food, they have perfectly fine live its just the computers are expensive. And theres other issues like internet connectivity. So were looking at the next billion and not the bottom billion. So what will this do . This is this will do what normal computers do email web browsing. I mean the stuff you come to expect from computers. So in this device we set out not to create the cheapest computer to create. What they wanted was the best computer i could afford. And so that best computer needs to be able to do everything you do on a computer. Really what we have done is actually an operating system thats just a delivery mechanism so again, 90 of our team is focused on the software research, design and development. So you can do web browsing, word processing. To give you an example, i use our operating system entirely as my operating system. I havent opened my mac in nine months. I like it better. It does everything i need to do. s simpler and better and we have tailored the applications to the need of the market. How does this differ from a chrome book which is googles operating system thats placed on a number of very inexpensive computers . Great question. So chrome book is simple and easy its a full computer. Its browser. Everything we do during on the computer. With one asterisk. When you unplug it from the internet, it doesnt work. The chrome book. The chrome book. Its effectively a browser. If all you do on your computer is a browser, lets make it a browser. Thats the big thing. Its actually not necessarily the cost of the device but the conductivity. So we made a native operating system with native applications. And what we have done is gone and preinstalled wikipedia. So the sum of Human Knowledge is on that. K12 education, preinstalled on every device. Health information so you can look up any ailment, my medicine, preinstalled. No internet required. Theres an ecosystem of applications. How much storage does it take . Storage is so cheap nowadays. The hard drive cost 300 for 4 gigabytes. We have 32 gigabyte version and that fits on there that and much more. How is it hp leave apple out for a moment. We know apple, aluminum body all that. If you can build and manufacture a computer for 169 i mean, i saw on kickstarter theres a 9 computer. It doesnt have wikipedia and its just a chip. How is it that there are any Computer Companies still making computers . So it still blows my mind we this is an intel processor. And were able to sell it for cheaper than dell and hp are able to sell thats my question. How are you still in business . So windows is a 40 cost. To those manufacturers. Gotcha. You did your own os. And people are buying our system because of the operating system. Isnt the cost of windows cut for some they do it by volume of device and if its smaller than nine inches its a discount. To have a desktop computer its a still expensive. And you have to pay for office for 100. Its microsoft, not hp. So its lenox based . Lenox is an interesting thing. I was new to understanding lenox. I had a big misconception again. It turns out on the an incredibly powerful engine. Very hard to use. Like having a fighter jet with, you know, the cockpit with all the knobs an nozzles. It is built for engineers and they want all the dials and switches. We took that extremely powerful fighter jet and put a joystick in it. Its the easiest out there. Youre sitting on top of lenox . We are based on that and we have taken the small veneer which is called the graphical interface and made that extremely simple. Why a desktop and not a laptop and not a smartphone . Desktop, i mean thats going back a couple of years. So desktop, most Desktop Computers sold to emerging markets and most homes have Desktop Computers. For the total cost of ownership is lower, this plugs into the television. Hdtv. All you have to buy is this. Thats the best way of reducing the total cost of ownership. The devices are family devices. Its not a personal device. And in the future well make laptops. The question about smart phones and tablets is a question that we get a lot here and never there. In other words, arent they leapfrogging us, why do people want computers anymore . Right . And the answer is they want the same things that we have. All of you have a desktop computer. All of you probably have a tablet and a smartphone. They want the same set of tools. Your set gives it to them. Well let you get on the bus with all the computers. Thank you, matt dalio. Up next, an entrepreneur retires with millions to spend his time fixing up a farmhouse which makes him dream up a new idea. Welcome back to press here. If you look at aaron patzers pace on linked in, you have to scroll and scroll because hes done so much. Hes best known for the creator of mint, the super best way to manage your bank which was purchased by intuit. Not content to sit still, hes created an app to help you find advice on toilet repair to sick tomato plants. So your plants are sick. Id want to look at them. And so thats jason, an expert in sustainable gardening. He saved the day with me. This is aaron who created the app. Aaron dabbled with for a while with the mag live transportation pod. Thank you for being with us. You ended up you took your money from intuit. You worked at intuit for a while. I did. Kind of semiretired, youre going to build a farmhouse or Something Like that. Yeah, i bought 22 acres and wanted to build an organic or orchard orchard. It was an old place. And then slowly this idea for i need help with my olive trees this is a very Silicon Valley story. Right . Youre going to retire peacefully and you know what i need is an app. Well i wasnt going to retire but i certainly did come up with a bunch of problems in and around this new house. It was the first house i had ever bought. I like to do the work myself. The hot water heater was broken. I had these olive trees that hadnt been groomed in 15 years. I wanted to plant an orchard and its more complicated than sticking a tree in the ground. I wanted the advice on this and so much depends on the climate and the sunlight and the angles or when maintaining your deck what the material is made out of. So google wasnt useful for this kind of information. Not specific to you, yeah. Rich . Well, tell us a little bit more about how this thing works. Is it actually realtime instant communication, i have an idea now, or i have a problem, i want an instant solution or do you is there a like Appointment Television sort of viewing . The only time that matters when you have a problem is right now. So we will put you in touch with someone who can help you out over text, talk or video chat in about 60 seconds. Youll be on with an architect, interior designer. We have a couple from hg tv on our system. General contracts. Appliance repair people. People specialists because we because we started with the home first. If you can only see wait you can see what im seeing in realtime. You can see this in the garden, et cetera. I mean, you have a website. But its more of a smartphone centric sort of idea. As they say a picture is worth a thousand words and video is worth much more. I had this problem with my hot water heater. Im trained as a software engineer, i never fixed a hot water heater. You think theres no way how complicated could it be . And it was actually really simple. He said okay lets turn off the hot water and turn on the cold water to see if theres any blockage in the pipes. Turn on the cold and off the hot. Okay not a blockage. Go underneath the house with the video camera oh that looks like a pump and model underneath you will find a screw cap. All for much cheaper than a guy coming out. Seven bucks. Thats all it took you avoid the 200 house call and i fixed the hot water heater and im a software engineer. Because of that seven bucks, whats in it for the experts themselves . Well, whats great for the experts is its work on demand. So its 7 per 15 minutes, you can get a great interior designer for 28 an hour. Whats their cut . They get 70 of the revenues. Theyre making 21 an hour. That may not fly if youre in San Francisco or new york. But this is you may be talking to a designer whos fantastic in chicago or atlanta or austin or some place where its cheaper to live. Like being an uber driver too. You could be an uber driver sometimes and doing a dad doing car pool and on the way back be an uber driver again. You can be a gardening expert when you want to. Thats right. We send the push notification to five or ten people. And if you dont want to take the work because youre busy with your own clients, ignore it and somebody else will pick it up. You get super Fast Response time. So how big is the network, your Expert Network . We have dozens of people in every category. So what sort of weird category . I mean i mean dishwasher repair is an obvious one. Oh, really, i can learn how to do that . We have someone who specializes in just glass flooring. If you want a glass floor i didnt know there was glass flooring. Like in apple store, sort of the glass steps for staircases. We have someone who is a specialist. Someone who specializes in interior design for kids bedrooms. You can find them in a way you never would have in most parts of the country. The first time we met, you were doing mint and you were also very much in the entrepreneur startup mode. Next time we met, you were at intuit and you were very corporate. You had a big job there. You were running the personal finance as i recall, now youre back to doing startup again. What were your takeaways from your time at being intuit . Do you ever did you learn from being in a big company like oh, i never want to do that again . Well, you said that, not me. So ill just agree. I do like being in a Small Company better. Intuit was a good place to work and i would say that it was financially very rigorous. The planning process was very rigorous. But i kind of like to just get in there and build things. I shouldnt but i still code from time to time. Well you coded most of mint to begin with, right . I coded the initial version with a couple of engineers including two or three patentable algorithms and i did the core algorithms in fountain as well. You can say my tomatoes are dying, and you could talk to a gardner. You can say my greyhound is throwing, it puts you in touch with a veterinarian as opposed to thinking that means a bus line. Its sophisticated, artificial intelligence. You have some competition. It used to be called pearl and i honestly dont recall what it is called. Just answer i think it is. Yeah. Is there something youre delivering that theyre not . Yeah. If you go to just answer, you can chat with an expert but its desktop and its chat. Youre mobile. We have mobile video pictures you can draw on and you get it for 7 as opposed to 70. Aaron patzer will help you when your greyhound is sick. Thank you for being with us this morning. Press here will be back in a minute. Thats our show for this week. My thanks to my guests. Before we go, i do want to let you know well once again be preempted for a couple of weeks. The sunday morning time slot right after meet the press is very presstigious, but it leaves us vulnerable to the sports, especially on the east coast. So while we await to return check out pressheretv. Com. Find our interviews with Silicon Valleys most important and interesting people. And of course we will be back in mid june. Im scott mcgrew. Thank you for making us part of your sunday morning. Press here is sponsored in part by barracuda network. Storage solutions to simplify i. T. City national bank, providing loans of credits to help businesses grow. An trujillo hello and welcome to comunidad del valle. Im damian trujillo, and today on our show, actress eliana lopez and her oneperson performance. Coming up right here on your comunidad del valle. Male announcer nbc bay area presents comunidad del valle with damian trujillo. Damian we begin today with a noble effort down here in the gilroy area, and its an effort put on by several people and it involves a cemetery there at st. Marys. With me here on comunidad del valle is Debbie Peevyhouse and connie rogers, who is the president of the gilroy historical society. Did i say that correctly . Connie rogers yes, i am. Damian so, we have a couple of clips, and tell us, first of all, debbie, why this is a big deal, why we need to be drawing attention to this. Debbie peevyhouse well, because the history of Santa Clara County is buried there. We have jose maria amador, for whom Amador County is named. We have john gilroy, for whom