In his San Francisco laboratory. Reporter science has been working on egg replacements for years and for good reason. Eggs have too much cholesterol. Theyre hard to transport. They spoil. And the quarter billion chickens they come from are damaging to the environment. The problem is, eggs are used in so many ways. Its proved impossible for scientists to find one solution. Those San FranciscoHampton Creek foods may be close. The startup located in the heart of hightech south of market is working on plantbased replacements. Funded in part by microsofts bill gates. Josh is ceo, a former football star, scholar, teacher in kenya and blogger whos now reinventing one of natures most basic foods. Joined by anthony hobb and Quentin Hardy of the new york times. In my list of things youre good at, i dont see biochemistry, molecular anything. What qualifies you to be trying to replicate the egg . I think im pretty good at finding people that are a whole lot smarter than i am. So am i which is why were having this show. People like what . What do you need to replicate an egg . A biologist . Nutritionist . Yeah, you need a whole lot of different types of folks. One of the things we realized early on, this problem is not a food science problem. Its not a culinary problem. And its not a biochemistry problem. It requires all of these disciplines. So we have biochemists, molecular biologists, a chef that was on top chef season 9. And all of them put together make it happen. What im getting here is like the egg is spoken of as the perfect food. Setting aside the cholesterol problem, its a very complete kind of food. So chickens do a nice job laying them. Why do you want to replace the chicken . Why do you need to change the system . Works well how many eggs are laid every year in america or around the world . Do you have any number like that . Yeah, its the system, not the egg that really is the issue. 1. 8 trillion eggs are laid every single yeararound the world. Sounds like chickens are doing a fine job. But theyre doing a dirty job and theyre doing a hardtotransport job. Its massive. Of the 1. 8 trillion eggs that are laid globally, 99 of all of those eggs, whether where i was raised in birmingham, alabama, or beijing, china, are laid in exactly the same place, these industrial warehouses known as battery cage facilities. So imagine a warehouse rows of cages, 9 to 10 female bird in each cage. Theyre crammed in. They cant flap their wings. Theyre left there for two years. Besides the obvious Animal Welfare issue, its really unsafe. As we speak now, theres an avian flu outbreak in mexico. Somebodys going to get sick. Prices are rising. And its also pretty devastating to the environment because these hens are fed massive amounts of soy and corn requires all of this land and water and fertilizer. Okay. So im a little scared by all that. And shouldnt i be also scared by guys in labs genetically modified . Are we talking about genetically modified . Were not. Were talking 92 of the worlds plants have not been explored for their applicability in food. Plants youve heard of and havent heard of. And all we do is search the worlds plant species. And we screen them, asking ourselves, does it emulsify . Does it bind . Does it scramble up . A property called coagulation . So were not doing anything fancy, no synthetic engineering. We dont have any of those tools in our lab. We just have really smart people who can identify the functionalities of these plants and say, well, this can work better than the egg. Our next guest is the inventor or coinventor of google street view, google selfdriving row bobotic cars a google glass. Sebastian has been called the fifth most creative person alive. I had the fortune to learn from the best, and i would say larry is part of my inspiration. And what they do really well is look at something and say what is the fundamental game shifting . Not building a better cell phone, but we understand how to be closer to people. And their idea was to say, look, this wouldnt be in your pocket. Of course, brain implants hurt and theyre expensive. Had you experimented with them or you just speculate . Were speculating. You may have actually tried it. I wouldnt be able to tell you. But getting a camera, its sheer magic. Credit sergey and larry with this invention because theyre really behind it. Where do you see google glass in three years . Where is that product going . Ive been wearing it a lot. Ive been wearing it for many, many months now. Its not distracting . It is sometimes distracting. Theres moments where we move to display above the eye so its not in the way. And we move the speaker out of the ear so its not in your ear. And the aspiration is that you live a normal life and still have access to the ability. People look at you like youre crazy, though, when youre walking down the street wearing them . I dont know yet. Have you not walked down the street wearing them . Oh, yeah. Okay. I would imagine in silicon valley, most people say hey, youre wearing google glass. Ive gotten a lot of positive response because its very new. By the way, its google glass, not glasses. Singular. I think youre going to lose that branding just like people calling it the itouch instead of the ipod touch. People will call it what they want to call it. A couple of years youll be walking down the street and theyll say why dont you have your google glass on . Isnt google partnering with a Sunglass Company designer . I wouldnt be able to comment on it. You dont have a hand in the actual design, frames . What you see right now is designed by google. Theres an amazing designer named isabel olson. We have about two minutes left. I think the next one weve got to ask about is the autonomous car. The cars. We were just floored when google said oh, by the way, weve been driving robot cars around. And you had a heavy hand in that as well. Along with the team that works with you. Its just an amazing thing to do because its so logical. Just as much as why . Is it going to be a reality . Theyre driving down 85 now. Its happening a little bit. Talk about the advantages. Its cool and all. Its amazing. Safetywise, theres more than 1 Million People in the world in traffic accidents every year. Conveniencewise. About an hour a day commuting. Because i have a sports car and i hate commuting. And think about the style changes. What if you can sleep in your car . Oh, yeah, i would love that. You sat behind the wheel i mean, theres always at this point a driver behind the wheel, and i assume youve salt behind it. Oh, my god, ive sat behind it a lot. Hours and hours. That first time you got into traffic, were you thinking, i have coded this thing so well, its going to be great . Or did you think well, if no ones listening no ones listening, sebastian. The first time i got into traffic is certainly a moment of hope. I would have called it faithbased driving. We made sure we had tested this thing like crazy on closedcircuit confidence. We also built it so we can take over any second like a Cruise Control so if theres any mistake. And i can tell you there are moments we took over. Otherwise we would have had a crash. So we had a few accidents only caused by humans bumping into us. None caused by us. More of our look back on 2013 when press here continues. Welcome back to press here. If youre just joining us, were taking a look back at some of the guests of 2013. Back at the start of the year, a young man named aaron schwarz, a Computer Programmer and absolute whiz kid took his own life. He was facing what many thought to be an overzealous prosecution for copying data at m. I. T. He was to be represented in court by attorney Elliott Peters. Reporter Elliott Peters was in the midst of wading through discovery documents when he first heard his client had hanged himself with a belt. Thank you for being with us this morning. With john schwarz of usa today, lauren sidle of npr. How did you get this case . Why did you become his lawyer . I got a phone call from mark lemley, law professor at stanford. And he was familiar with aaron and the case. And then aaron i got a call from aaron a couple of days later. Aaron had other lawyers before me, but i went to new york a few days later. I was actually visiting my mom in new york. And i went to see aaron, and we got together and sat down and talked for several hours. And hes a fascinating guy. Then i met his dad a few weeks later. And they had a very good lawyer in boston named marty weinberg. But they decided to make a change and go with me and my firm. And there you are, as i said, wading through discovery documents. You feel you got a little late on top of it. You get i think an email from his dad saying aaron had passed away. I spent the afternoon reading discovery material, getting very excited about the significance of it in the case and about how we could use it in an upcoming suppression hearing. Im driving home, having printed out a lot of this stuff and planning to review it over the weekend. I get an email from aarons dad which simply said aaron committed suicide, and i pulled over and called his dad. Were you shocked to hear this . Yeah, i was shocked and sad and, i mean, im not sure i have words to describe how i felt. You know, the case a lot of people have talked about prosecutorial overreach, that they were that they were actually asking for seven years in prison for essentially hacking into a School System and doing something that really was kind of a victimless crime. The question ive had the whole time is why has the government why did the government go after him so vehemently . I heard some people say that in some ways they associated him with wikileaks and the type of hackers who were involved there and they wanted to set a precedent. What is your take on why they went after him . I dont know the answer to that, but i fear that the truth is somewhat more mundane and that you had a prosecutor in boston, head of the computer crimes unit in boston, and being head of the computer crimes unit isnt worth much unless you have a computer prime to prosecute. And he found this case and turned it into something that it wasnt, which was it didnt involve hacking, really. He was an authorized user of the m. I. T. Computer system. He could get on to jstore and do what he did. But they blew it way out of proportion and made it into a much bigger deal than it was. Have you had an opportunity to speak with him since then . The prosecutor. The prosecutor, im sorry, the prosecutor in this instance. I have chosen not to. I got a phone call from him on the morning after aaron committed suicide and a voice mail saying please call me. But i felt like either hes going to say, oh, my deepest apologies to the family and my sympathies and i was going to feel gross about that. Or he was going to or i was going to Say Something to him that i was later going to regret. So i havent spoken to him. Im wondering, you know, about the wider implications of this case. You say you think it was just this one prosecutor. But is there some lesson to be learned around hacking crimes and how they should be handled by the government . Well, i think i think personally the lesson to be learned is that prosecutors really can overreach. They can inflate cases. Theres very little constituency for criminal defendants out there or for people who are in prison. Everybody wants to be tough on crime. And theres plenty of situations where youve got to say, lets be reasonable here. There has been a precedent, though. You look at gambling online. There was a crackdown on that. There was a crackdown on some hackers a couple of years ago. It goes through these phases. One thing i want to ask you about was if im a nontechnical person and our audience tends to be, i think, what do you want them to know . What was the significance of what aaron did and whats his legacy . Well, you know, i think theres two pieces of aarons legacy. One is what he stood for in the tech community, in the internet community, which was free access to information, that knowledge and the access to information and the revolutionary power of the internet should be made as widely and freely as possible. Thats really what he stood for. The other part of his legacy is that he was a good person who would engage in a political act and prosecutors dramatically overreached. And theres been a significant backlash. Venture capitalist chris was one of our guests this year talking about a program he and his wife created called the last mile. It brings business and entrepreneurial classes into san quentin prison. Convicts learn how to create internet startups, even apps, all without touching computers or iphones. Now, we have an interview on our website, but i wanted to focus on horacio harts, one of the graduates of the last mile who had just been released from san quentin days before appearing on the show. I think youre going to ask the question i think we all want to ask. Yeah. What is its a question about a question whats the number one question people ask you when they find out that youve been to san quentin . People want to know, what is the biggest change from being inside and outside, and that is the engagement i see with people with technology. Before i went to prison, you know, no one was looking at their phones on b. A. R. T. , you know. And now on b. A. R. T. , everyones just disengaged with the riders, and theyre in their own world. Its crazy. Its that big because for us its been this gradual change, right . As weve all gotten smartphones. You stand in line. Yeah, yeah. Do you have an iphone or smartphone now . I do have a smartphone. Still learning he sent me something on gmail the other day. Or gdrive. Hold on. I kind of know how to do this. Walk me through it. If you ran san quentin, understanding that people go to prison to be punished and to be hopefully rehabilitated as well, with those understandings, what would you do at san quentin if you ran the place . I would make sure that everyone well, san quentin is unique. San quentin is a very unique prison. Everything that they should be doing, theyre doing. Now, if you look at other prisons, higher levels, they dont have access to the selfhelp programs that inmates at san quentin have such as the last mile. They dont have access to the Prison University project patton university where i graduated and received an associate of arts degree. I would implement these Educational Opportunities to every prisoner. Isnt that funny. Thats not the expectation i got of san quentin, such a famous prison. Actually, san quentin theres a baseball two baseball teams. Yes. The only prison newspaper in the united states. Theres a lot of stuff going on there. Right. Well, give me some change. I mean, youve got the floor. The world is watching you. The guys are watching. What would you change . I would change i would say i would have more job skills, training. Theres, i think, two vocs. I would make sure theres at least four or five vocs. Vocational, training skills. Were looking back at the year 2013. More guests when press here continues. Welcome back to press here. Weve been looking at some of our memorable guests over the past year. Now, theyre all memorable. We had the head of both the giants and the golden state warriors, the ceo of runaway success work day, neil bushery, reddit founder. One of the most enthusiastic guests was Scott Maxwell who is in charge of driving the mars rover. The Planetary Society once described maxwell as, quote, exuberant, always smiling and a great galloping puppy of a mars geek. Thank you for being with us. I hope you take that in the complement of the no doubt intended. There are much worse things they could say about me. Im happy to have that be my description. I think the question that everyone probably asks you first is were you nervous . You dont want to say oh, Scott Maxwell that drove into the rock. Well, thats bad. For the landing i was actually very confident that the landing was going to work. The guys who did that were just really brilliant. Even though it was ludicrous. There was a crane and an airbag and a parachute and a rocket. It was absolutely insane. But the thing is, its like the least insane thing you could possibly do. Weve been landing things on mars in insane ways for quite a while now, and weve gotten pretty good at it. And we did it in just the right way. They went and sequestered themselves and just focused on the engineering. I was actually very confident that would work. What about the driving, though . Youre in charge of driving a billiondollar product that is millions of miles away. And its all up to you. And if you crash into a rock, then everybodys fired. Yeah. Nfl has led 2. 5 billion. Fair enough. Curiosity is 2. 5 billion. Sticker price. Its the parts. Right, exactly. Its getting a repairman. Right. But i, at the time that i started driving, i had been driving the mer rovers for 8 1 2 years. Fortunately the team of other rover drivers is just a great team. Theres fantastic guys, brilliant, not afraid to say what they think, guys and girls. Brilliant, not afraid to say what they think. And if you have an idea thats a dumb idea, they will be the first ones to tell you its a dumb idea. And not in a mean way but just in a twha, like, everybodys more focused on lets do the right thing, the best possible thing for the rover. And everybody is determined to go to that end. And i just knew these people, and they were really smart, really great people. I knew that if i had something dumb to do, they were going to keep me from doing it. Fortunately, the rover is also pretty smart. And you can tell the rover, hey, here are dumb things that i would like you to not do. For example, along this drive, youre going to experience we believe youre going to experience about ten degrees. If you see anything more than 12 degrees, youre probably off course. You should stop and wait for help. We can use the rovers own systems, use the rovers own systems to help keep it safe. Whats the lag between driving, sending a signal up, getting there and finding out whether or not it executed . Well, the planets it thats a great question. The planets are so far apart, the bestcase scenario, its three minutes. You push forward on the joystick. And three minutes later it starts to move. And then you see the cliff coming. But by then its too late. Thats not how it goes. So everyone understands, that is not how it works. Exactly. We couldnt possibly drive it that way. And three minutes is the bestcase scenario. The worst is 22 minutes. Imagine trying to drive your car with that kind of lag. Program something in and wait to see what happens. While the rover is sleeping during the night, we are planning out its entire next day. And coming up with a list of what we want the rover to do for the day. And then we take that list and email it to the rover essentially at the beginning of its day. We go home and go to sleep and the rover spends its entire day clocking out its commands. At the end of the day, it stops, takes pictures and emails us back a package saying heres what i did. Heres what the world around me looks like. Theres some pictures i took. And then the rover goes to sleep and we spend the night building up command for the rovers next day. How thrilling is that, to get a package of the stuff you executed on . Oh, my god, its so great were so lucky to be alive at a time and a place when for the very first time in all of human history, we can turn this red light in the sky that used to be a god into a place. And we can go exploring there. And we can see things on there that have never been seen by anybody ever before. And so when youre getting the data down from the rover and youre seeing these new pictures every place is new. You are the first person who has ever seen that. It must be thrilling. Its tremendous. For somebody like me who grew up hooked on science fiction, star trek, as we were talking about before, that kind of thing, and had those kind of dreams to actually live that dream is tremendous. Were there any unforeseen circumstances or factors that you did not account for . It happens all the time. Thats why we call it exploration. If we always knew what we were going to find, we wouldnt have to bother to go. So great example of this is with the rover opportunity was kind of landed in a very flat place on mars. It was like a big parking lot with just these speed bumps in it. And we were trying to drive south. And we kind of were driving over the speed bumps and driving over the speed bumps. And one day we came in and instead of going over the speed bumps had gone into one of the speed bumps. The sand was softer than we thought. And the rover was buried up to its hubcaps. We had to spend several weeks to get the rover back out. Wow. Explain that sort of again, im going to go back to my first question is the whole world is counting on you. And to get the data back to say that you got the rover stuck. The feeling that would go down my spine would just be id just be sick to my stomach. Yeah. I didnt have that particular one. You didnt do it . That wasnt me. I swear to god, im not kidding you about this. It was some other poor guys first day. Okay. There we go. That sounds terrible. He did put it off. I had those moments myself. Ive come in and seen a big rover killing rock thats, you no he, a few centimeters off the wing. And oh, my god, your heart stops. Its terrible because, you know, all these people and its not its not in part, its that, you know, all these people have put all this time and effort into making this mission happen. And you dont want to let your team down. In addition to the people who are kind of watching over your shoulder and being as it were back seat rover drivers. How early were you in the process . Did you see rover loaded and i i actually saw the rovers, watched the rovers being built. I was part of the team that did the Mars Exploration rovers from before there was a rover. This great line when they went to the moon, he said if there was never life there before, there is now. Thats exactly right. When you looked at the pictures, got the data, were communicating with this thing you sent up there, did you feel like you were there . Oh, very much so. Thats part of the really interesting thing about the job. Humans have this ability to kind of put themselves in the mind of other people and of machines. If you ever had a first car, for example, and you gave that car a name, you kind of invested it with a little bit of personality, thats kind of what we do with the rovers. Theyre people to us. And you kind of, like, put yourself in the mind of that rover. And youre seeing through its eyes and youre moving with its body. And you know, i used to teach people to drive rovers. And you could see this moment that they would kind of like go over this hump where as they were talking about what we want to do with the rovers arm, they would start moving their arm and body in ways that they were talking about the rover. More of our look back on 2013 when press here continues. That does it for our retrospective. Were back january 5th with all new shows. Im scott mcgrew. Thank you for making us a part of your sunday morning. Hello and welcome to comunidad del valle. Today we celebrate the 40th anniversary of san jose. One half hour of dance on your comunidad del valle. Theyre celebrating 40 years of dance. All across the bay area. Were going to begin actually with my little girls. Its the peewee version of it. They are in this first segment. They are dancing from the region