In this case diagnoses the patient by waving it back and forth. In reality its a salt shaker. The Props Department wanted to save money. For tv purposes its a tricorder. This is not a proper, the equivalent. It can read your vital signs from temperature to Blood Pressure just by holding it to your head. Walter wanted to raise 100,000 in funding to create the device. He accidentally raised more than a million and a half, breaking records on the site, futurist, inventor and knight. Less talk about the knight thing real fast. I dont think weve had a knight. I mean a knight with a sword on either side of your shoulders. Its a little less sexy. Everyone who has been in the army in belgium, when youre an officer and retire you get that order. Still the only order of knight im aware of weve had on this show. Im simultaneously trans fixed by your device and kind of doubtful. Youve gotten the thing to work. This is an actual product thats going to ship to people that works the way you say its going to work . Yes. Please expand. Lets just spend a moment in geek dom. I shine a light on my forehead. Youve got one in your pocket. Lets take it out. Basically how do you use the bodys energy and electricity . Well, you make a circuit. So we make a circuit with the body. Because we have to have here, heart, ecg here, we have to have pulse, distance between them, temperature, infrared. All these things together with our al go rhythms, they produce very, very accurate vital sign readings. Whats it going to tell me. Everything when you go bo an er room, everything you have in the er room, it can tell you. Pulse, heart rate, gives you temperature, also core, body. Diastolic and systolic Blood Pressure. It can give you respiratory rates, of course, and pulse ox. The ability of how much oxygen with a breath. Ecg, you could have more technical things. Everything you have in an er room. So when we surveyed this, the consumer only wanted this they wanted this to have in 10 seconds. This was the big constraint. They wanted 10 seconds, around the same time people sit on a bull in a rodeo. This is our Attention Span. Our Attention Span is eight to ten seconds. Youre the engineers out there, they get the temperature, other things, pulse oximeter would be a light. Blood pressure. Thats the one im fuzzy. Blood pressure you have to put a cuff on an squeeze. Blood pressure, people have tried for a long time. The only thing they came up with, which was actually not bad was pulse wave transit time. With an algorithm you can translate in Blood Pressure. Not very accurate. Especially diastolic Blood Pressure goes all over the map. Plp is a very difficult one. Thats why when you go to the doctor, hes doing it three, four times. Thats my question, how are you solving that in a sort of fifth grade level so i understand it. Basically all about mathematics and fusion. We worked on it for two years without suddenly in six months when we found the first way how to go about it and reality with the device, now up 95 accuracy. Data points that signal you what Blood Pressure is. This is empressive you got this in one tiny device. Im still unclear as to some of the bigger benefits. Say, for instance, my Blood Pressure is irregularly high, heartbeat irregular, how does this expedite you getting to the doctor. In the company we all use it on ourselves, of course. That has changed how i treat my health. For instance, i set my own alerts now. I have a time series on my heart rate, my Blood Pressure. Well, i can set my own alerts, because i set my alerts, heart rate at 40. Ive had a very low heart rate, i take beta blockers so the heart rate goes slow. I try to balance my systolic and diastolic Blood Pressure with hypertension medicine. I must see my heart rate doesnt go to the measure connects to your phone. Data stored here, in the cloud, my doctor . How do you want to make this extend. We dont store data. Thats for the consumer to do. They have several options to do that. They can do that on cloud. Everything happens on the device. You just want to sell the box. No. We want algorithms i understand why sensitive you dont store my data. If you sell a million of these, that would be incredibly valuable data not just financially but medically. We survey to the consumer very well. He did not want data its a bit like a banker where you have a banker and analyst. Theres a firewall. We want to be the people of the computation, algorithm. We cant store the data, the consumer wont like it. Somebody else should do it. Find that interesting in the sense i find it contradictly to what i might want. If a stroke is coming on, god forbid i hope thats several years away. If a stroke is coming on and picked it up, part of me wishes it would go to the cloud, my doctor, an ambulance will be called. It will. It will be your data. We have the commodity models to do that. You will be able to store your data over time and observe behavior. You will choose if you want to sell it or not. We dont want to be a data mart. Lets take a quick break. Well go to commercial, come back and start with your question in just a minute. Welcome back to press here. Before the break i cut you off so we could take the break. Go ahead. You built the device. Three times when we were talking you refer to yourself as Algorithm People but youre suggesting being part of a much larger kind of business around data, visualization of what people have done over time. Perhaps Insurance Companies and modifying behavior. Are you going to play a role, leave it up to the world to decide. The world will not decide, the consumer will decide. Whatever the consumer will do will eclipse. Are you approached by companies, developers . Sure, sure. I think we have we know what we want. Our agenda is pretty clear. So when i say algorithms, its the heart of what we do. What our vig is that one day these algorithms, pretty close will be diagnostic so we can build them into a car, a kitchen, where you have this collection of medical data. Perhaps even the collection as a service. Objects that collect information. Preventive medicine will completely disappear into the environment. Walter when you went from 100, in crowd funding, you raised 1. 5 million in a single day. Yes. Did that change anything for you in my concern isf my Company Raised too much money we might get fancy, all of a sudden the catered lunches get fancier. How are you able to absorb making that much money as opposed to the tenth you expected to make . It really change our company drastically. Not because of the money, because we started with good capital before. It was about having 10,000 clients out there, 10,000 customers. Its not free money. Certainly we were not that anymore, we were a product company. How is this Consumer Experience going to be. 10,000 people, 1. 5 million each. Its 1. 6 and we have 9,400. What do they get for the 100, whatever it is. They get this. They get that when its delivered. Plus they have a couple of disposables, they can do urine analysis. This is like the mothership, collects data, molecular diagnostic data. Also working on blood very soon. Saliva. Urine. But also in there we are working very hard to really put imaging in there. Imaging. What imaging . We want to look beneath the skin. You know, we have to be more than 10 millimeters. You kind of come from the future, dont you . Star trek. The star trek thing helped, i think, enormously. If you tricorder everyone of a certain age. The sexiest idea of the 21st century. Did you look at it on star trek and say lets build that . No. I think every baby boomer watched that series and didnt see it as that. Let me ask you, walter. This looks impressive. I watched star trek, i think these guys did, too. You know we did. Thats true. We get the comparison, i get 9,000 backers, early adopters, i feel like this is generation one. I feel like getting me to invest 100 in like a video game console from another funding site doesnt seem as important as investing 200 in something that could save my life. How i feel like implicit trust needs to be there. How are you going to bridge that gap and explain and get them to trust the fact this device works and will help them. Well, the first 10s,000, there are researchers, taking part in the feasibility study. Everyone is with informed consent. Everyone also how many times do i use it. They will be connected, the 10,000. They will see who lights up. They will see who is scanning what. You created a kind of social network. Global body map. This is interesting. Make it quick, doug. How does it change your behavior . How do you find using this. For me it changed, for instance, my behavior towards medicine. I told my doctor, look, you gave me, you know, this beta blocker, but my heart rate goes down, this goes up. I want to have more balance, give me another one. This makes it faster and more fun as well. All right. Walter debrouwer, thanks for coming from the future. Some people drive tesla, my next drove a mars probe. Mars recovery driver Scott Maxwell when press here returns. Unrestrained joy from nasa engineers and scientists one year ago as mars curiosity rover sits down safely after a 350 million mile spaceflight. Welcome back. In that year curiosity has sent back 60,000 pictures, last week curiosity made its first solo drive navigating itself on the martian surface. Up until then it had human drivers driving by computer command and remote control. One of those drivers was Scott Maxwell, Planetary Society once described maxwell as exuberant, always smiling and a great galloping puppy of a mars geek. Thank you for being with us. I hope you take that in the compliment they intended. There are much worse things they can say about me. Im happy to have that in my description. The first thing they asked you first was were you nervous. Didnt want everyone to say, Scott Maxwell, he drove into a rock. I was confident the landing would work. People were ludicrous, a crane, airbag, parachute. Its like the least in sane thing you can possibly do. We have been landing things on mars for quite a while and weve gotten good at it. They sequester themselves and focus on engineering so i was very confident that would work. What about the driving, though. Youre in charge of driving a billion dollar product that is millions of miles amp and its all up to you. If you crash into a rock, everybody is fired. They have left 2. 5 billion, mars science laboratory, curiosity is 2. 5 billion. Sticker price, its the parts that kill you. Getting a repair man. Right. But at the time that i started driving in a cell, i had been driving mur rovers, so i knew what i was doing pretty well. Fortunately the team of other rover drivers is a great team. Fantastic guys, brilliant, not afraid to say what they think, guys and girls. Not afraid to say what they think. If you have an idea, dumb idea, they will be the first one to tell you its a dumb idea. Not in a mean way. Everybody focused on lets do the right thing for the rover, best possible thing for the rover. Everybody is determined to go to that end. I knew these people. They were really smart and great people. I knew that if i had something dumb to do, they were going to keep me from doing it. The rover is smart. Hey, here are dumb things i would like you to not do. For example, along this drive youre going to experience we believe youre going to experience tilt of 10 degrees. If you see anything more than 12 degrees, youre probably off course. I should stop and wait for help. We could use the rover systems to keep it safe. Whats the lag between driving, sending a signal up, getting there and finding out whether or not it executed. The planets are so far apart, best case scenario, oneway time is three minutes. Push forward on the joystick, rover doesnt move three minutes. Then you see the cliff coming and you pull back on the joystick but by then its too late. That does not help. We couldnt possibly drive them that way. Three minutes is the best case scenario. 22 minutes is the worst. Imagine driving your car. Put it in and see what happens. Were planning the next day and coming up with a list of what we want the rover to do that day. We email it and the rover spends the day clocking its commands. It stops and emails us back a package and says here is what i did, the world around me looks like, pictures i toochl the rover goes to sleep and spend the night building up how incredibly thrilling is that to get a package of stuff you executed. Oh, my god, its so great. Were so lucky to be alive in a time and a place when the very first time of all of Human History we can turn this red light in the sky that used to be a god into a place. We can explore there and see things on there that has never been seen by anybody before. When youre getting data down from the rover. Everything is new. You are the first person who has ever seen that. Its tremendous. For somebody like me grew up hooked on science fiction, star trek, as we talked about before, had those dreams and you get a chance to live those dreams is tremendous. Any unforeseen circumstances, factors that you did not account for . Happens all the time. Thats why we call it exploration. If we always knew what we were going to find, we wouldnt have to go. Great example is with the rover opportunity was kind of landed in a very flat place on mars, like a big parking lot with speed bumps in it. We were trying to drive south. We were driving over speed bumps. One day instead of the rover driving over the speed bump it was into the speed bump. It was softer and we had to spend weeks carefully crafting a plan to get the rover out. Explain that sort of again, im going to go back to my first question. The whole world is counting on you. Out the data back and it says you got the rover stuck. The feeling that would go down my spine would be sick to my stomach. I didnt have that particular one. That wasnt me. I swear to god im not kidding about this, it was some other poor guys first day. Ive had those moments myself. Ive coin and seen a big rover killing rock a few centimeters off the wing. Oh, my god, your heart stops. Its terrible. All these people in part, all these people have put all this time and effort into making this mission happen. You dont want to let your team down. In addition people watching over your shoulder being back seat rover drivers. How early were you in the process . Did you see rover loaded and touch the vehicle on the way up. I saw the rovers being built. I was part of a team that did Mars Exploration rovers. Proxy. Thats exactly right. When you looked at the pictures, got the data, were communicating, did you feel like you were there . Very much so. Thats part of the interesting thing about the job. Humans have this ability to put themselves in the mind of other people. Had a first car, you gave it a name and invested it with a personality. Thats kind of what we do with rovers. They are people to us. You put yourself in the mind of that rover, seen through eyes and moving with its body. I used to teach people to drive rovers. You can see this moment they would kind of go over this hump where as they were talking about what we want to do, they would tart moving their arm and body in ways were talking about the rover. Mars, glorious place you cant wait to visit personally or god forsaken place you cant wait to get off there. I would love to go there. Even if i could never come back, i would love to go. That would be tremendous. If nothing else, i have a couple of robot friends there. You mentioned ray bradbury i taught him how to drive a mars rover. During the anniversary celebration he came out to talk. We wheeled him up, he was in a wheelchair, wheeled him up, showed him how to use the software and showed him as bit of mars. You did a great job, the rovers had twitter accounts. When it blasted lasers into a rock, the rock had a twitter account. Played happy birthday to itself. First time any music played on another planet. I think the astronauts of the 1960s would have rolled their eyes and said these are stunts. But the public ate it up. You kind of get that picture. When you learn more about the astronauts you find they were fun loving guys. I personally think is wonderful were able to engage people in this way. I think it made a huge difference in nasas budget but ive been reading the twitter account. When i was growing up you would see the missions on the news but then disappear off the front page. This way you can stay connected. The ladies are funny, engaging, interesting, channel all that out through the rover twitter account. They make it a fun, engaining way. Thousands of followers. Scott maxwell, have you a book, mars rover driver, coolest job ever. Thank you for being with us. I wish we could talk further. Thank you guys. Press here will be back in just a minute. Marsandme. Find him on twitter at mars rover driver. Congratulations to press here contributor moving from his current position, a cushy columnist job at the wall street journal. Well have him back and ask him about that. Im scott mcgrew. Thank you for making us part of your sunday morning. Hello and welcome to comunidad del valle. Im damian trujillo. And coming to the help of Guadalupe Church again today on your comunidad del valle. We begin with walks to end alzheimers. With me on comunidad del valle, esther with Alzheimers Association and michelle cordova, her family provided care for a loved one. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Tell us, michelle, first about your family