that was 25,000 to walk and i couldn't afford that >> reporter: may sat in jail for 14 months. she lost her business and said her life crumbled as a result. >> i had contracts i lost all those contracts i even lost where i was living it affected my family. my kids was really impacted by it >> reporter: she now advocates for bail reform. >> what do you say to people who are against bail reform, who say it's increasing crime? >> that claim can't be substantiated. >> reporter: this man studying bail reform at columbia university he says there aren't enough studies yet to get a clear answer, but also that crime is rising everywhere, including where there has been no bail reform >> it would be very strange to conclude that modest reform efforts in one or two jurisdictions is somehow responsible for a rise in crime. >> reporter: but for june rogers, who lost her son, it's hard to accept that bail reform didn't play a role in his death. >> no one is taking responsibility for this. i have to go down to the graveyard to visit my son, which