Of people but that was not the true impetus for what happened here. The true impetus was there were i minute mitt family photos taken from him. Literally stolen. No dispute these would not be any type of judgment, collections. Just intimate family photos. Mr. Simpson had a second, another family, pictures of his mother, with famous celebrities and probably have no value to most people but they have all the value in the world to mr. Simpson. Theyre not footballs. And thats what set it off and mr. Beardsley had these photos or represented to me on the phone he had these photos and i made every effort in i could to try and obtain those intimate family photos that i was well aware of were basically all mr. Simpson wanted in the first place. Unfortunately whatever happened, mr. Beardsley was never able to get those to me. He explained he had them and i tried to make every effort to get those from him and then at some point along the line we lost contact and then i just discovered he had passed away. But i will speak on mr. Beardsley behalf from that phone conversation at least as of september of 2011, him and mr. Simpson had made things right. Okay . And finally, and again, obviously, the commission is not used to hearing where victims are consulting people who are in prison their attorneys and having multiple conversations with them. I also had mr. Fromong, bruce fro morni fromong who will testify shortly called my office, years ago. I cant remember the substance of the conversations. They werent recorded. If they were i couldnt find them in my files but hes recently called again. He called me july 3rd and july 14th and both times i missed the calls and called him back. I can hear the, that mr. Fromong made things and mr. Simpson have made things right with each other. That hes accepted mr. Simpsons apology wholeheartedly. He seems to be fundamentally really, really a good guy whos fallen on hard times recently, and he told me he would be calling and coming in and testifying favorably for mr. Simpson. I made sure i told him probably 15 or 20 times to say whatever he wanted to say, because you know, obviously, mr. Simpsons attorney talking to a victim, i ive come here, spent nine years making no excuses about thinking. I am sorry that things turned out the way they did. I had no intent to commit a crime, i came here, i tell the inmates all the time, man, i dont want to hear about your crime. You know. Argue in court, here, were all convicts. Im a convict. Do your time. I told the warden when i got here, mr. Legrange, miss carpenter that i would be no problem. I believe in this jury system. I will honor what the jury says. And i will be no problem. You know, and i think i kept my word. Like i said, ive done my time. Id just like to get back to my family and friends, and believe it or not, i do have some real friends, but i dont think i could have represented this will prison i dont think any inmate has represented it better than i. I did my time, i tried to be helpful to everybody. And as i said, bruce, bruce beardsly, i made up with him years ago. You know, so, im sorry to nevada. I wish i wish he wouldnt have ever called me. I thought i was glad to get my stuff back, but it wasnt worth it. Nine years away from your family is just not worth it. Im sorry. Thank you. Just one more thing, for the record, your expiration is as of today, 9 20 22 how in the world that adds up to 33 years, in the state of nevada, good behavior, complying with the rules can mean up to a 50 reduction off the back end of your sentence, if granted parol, that september 29, 2022 time could even move closer. So i wanted to put that on the record. And at this point, ill ask if you will move them again and we invite them to the table, please. O. J. Simpson having his final word. The hearing is not over. But after being somewhat combative earlier on, a bit more contrite there as he expressed his regret and remorse. Id like to thank you for the opportunity to be able to speak today. First and foremost, id like to say the that im not here just as mr. Simpsons friend of almost 27 years, because that i am. But today im also appearing as the victim of the crime on september 30th or september 13th, of 2007. On that day i felt that mr. Simpson was misguided, and not by himself, but also by tom reese owe. On the day, there were going to be thousands of pieces of memorabilia, pictures of his wife from his first marriage. Pictures of his kids, arnelle, jason, family hair looms. He was told his wifes wedding ring. Thousands of things. It was misled about what was going to be there that day. A man named Thomas Riccio promised him this big big package. In reality thomas had never met me. He got there and saw this i had went down, he got omt j. , and instead of telling him thats not what was there. He brought him up anyway. When o. J. Got there, and first thing he was already worked up, and had people with him that were hollering and screaming. There was a lot of commotion going on in a very, very small room. Real small room, wasnt it, o. J. . And a lot of things happened very quickly. And unfortunately, if o. J. Had said everybody out of here, o. J. Bruce and i need to talk for a minute, none of this needed to happen. But that didnt happen. And it took one of the things i want to make clear, it took two years in a California Court because and a judges infinite wisdom instead of going ahead and turning things back over, everything got sent to a California Court to get straightened out. And after having to fight the goldmans lawyers, o. J. s lawyers, and it took me two years to get back with over 600 items, a majority of it did come back to me. I had to go back 19 years of our friendship, 19 years, produce records for almost 98 of the stuff. It is true that items in the room belong to o. J. And there were no two ways about it. But its also true that i have never stolen anything from o. J. I did not i have never stolen from o. J. And i think o. J. Will admit that i did not ever take anything from you. It wasnt me. An expartner of mine and his miss stress, kristy luckenmire have taken things, other people have taken things from o. J. I have never stolen from o. J. O. J. Is my friend, always has been, and i hope will remain my friend. There were things in my room and i would admit to that. Im sorry things did not work out. Flfs a coward in that room man named mcclinton came up, gangster style, acting like a big man. He held the gun on me, not o. J. Another man came in, hit me, not o. J. He never layed a hand on me. A lot of people were yelling, bag that stuff up. Lets get out of here. During the trial, after id already testified against omt j. , and this is why i absolutely believe him. After id already testified against o. J. , id already said everything i had to say, we happened to pass each other in the hallway, and o. J. Came up to me and said, can i talk to you for a minute . And we had a chance to talk to each other, and i told him, im sorry that i did not get the opportunity to call him and tell him that i had that inside. Those few items that belonged to him i told him im sorry that i did not take the opportunity to call him. Because wed been apart for a long time. We hadnt had a chance to talk for many, many years. And id be buying stuff from mike gilbert, and i wish i had of. And he said, bruce, i cant tell you how sorry i am. And weve got a saying between us, it is what it is. And he put his hand out, i shook his hand, and i said, i forgive you. We all make mistakes. O. J. Made his. Hes been here, and from im told, hes been a model inmate. Hes been an example to others. During the trial, i recommended that he serve one to three years. Thats what i recommended to the d. A. And im here to say that, ive known o. J. For a long time. I dont feel that hes a threat to anyone out there. Hes a good man. I know that he does a lot for other people. And i feel that nine and a half to 33 years was way too long. And i feel that its time to give him a Second Chance its time he go home to his family, his friends hes a good man. He made a mistake. And if he call med tomorrow and said bruce, im getting out, will you pick me up . Ill be here tomorrow for you. I mean that, buddy. Thank you. We appreciate your comments and we appreciate you being present today, thank you. Thanks for this opportunity. Youre welcome. Mr. Leverne and mr. Simpson, if youll return to the table please. Before we break for deliberation, i want to ask the panel if there are any last questions. Anything . Okay. Whats going to happen now is deliberation, again, another thing we do with every single case, but a little differently today because frankly we need our offices back, folks. So were hoping to deliberate, come to an agreement, and be able to produce an order some time in the next 30 minutes or so. So, whats going to happen is we are going to break, if and then after deliberating, well come back to this room. Ill ask each commissioner to vote. Ill vote myself. If we are able to agree when those votes are cast, that will be a final decision if it becomes obvious that there is a split on this particular panel, i have commissioners eddie gray and commissioner michael keeler, standby in las vegas. And they will either we will call them, ask to return to deliberations. So that is what were planning at this moment. We are about to leave the room. I know officer batista is going to arrange to clear the courtroom there also. I ask that here that you give us about two minutes to clear out of the room so that youre not chasing us down the hall. And then well give you a five minute notice that our deliberation is over and that were ready to cast votes. So, on that, i will call this hearing into recess and we will return after deliberation. You have been watching something extraordinary. Something i dont believe weve ever covered and most of us have probably not witnessed, a parol hearing. In this case, its one of the most infamous convicts in modern history. O. J. Simpson, who has served nine years in a nevada prison on robbery, Armed Robberyrelated charges. But of course, Savannah Guthrie puts our focus on him is because of what happened in 1995. His acquittal in a murder trial. Once again, brings the spotlight into the judicial system. It was the trial of the century, now its the parol hearing of the century. And fascinating to watch the various forms of o. J. Simpson we saw during this hearing. Supposed to be 15 minutes, its now been an hour and 15 minutes. There were times we were looking at each other, it seems o. J. Simpson was combative. Sticking to his story that this wasnt a robbery because those items, those personal items belonged to him. Almost retrying the case. Debatable assumption. He was convicted of those crimes, it demonstrates for him not understanding the nature of the crime for which he was convicted. Later though, he said, im sorry, i wish it hadnt turned out this way. Now the commissioners go back. They need four votes. There are four there. If all four agree, he will be paroled and get out as early as october. This is a half hour of them deliberating then a five minute warning and come back. We will of course come back on the air with that. Still a little more business to bring. We to want bring in christopher darden, a name youll recall. Part of a Prosecution Team during the criminal murder trial against o. J. Simpson in 1995. Were all very interested in your take on the attitude and what we heard from o. J. Simpson, mr. Darden. Well, ive got to tell you, im a little heated. You know, not just the parol hearing of the century, its sort of the bssession of the century too. You know, when i appear in court and try cases and evidence is presented, you know, we have a judge there who tries to ensure that what comes out of the mouths of witnesses is the truth. And this process doesnt seem to rely very much on the truth. On the one hand, were told that you cant consider what happened in 1995. Okay. But then on the other hand, they allow mr. Simpson to make these statements that i was a good guy on the street. Well, no, you werent because you repeatedly beat your wife. You beat your wife on occasions to a point that she fled her own home in the middle of the night, naked. He says, i would never pull a weapon on anybody. No one has ever accused me of pulling a weapon on them. Well, no one ever accused him of pulling a weapon on them because the people he pulled the weapon on are dead. And werent in a position to accuse him later. But i certainly accused him of drawing a weapon, and using a weapon on ron and nicole in 1994. But hes allowed to sit there and make these broad statements as if he is this socalled good guy. And has always led this good guy lifestyle. How do you think that will sit with the commissioners who are certainly aware of the history here . He did say, and im quoting, ive lived a conflictfree life and i like you thought of the 911 calls featuring his wife, screaming for her life, and you can hear o. J. Simpson in the background, so that is demons ra bli untrue. Lester and i were remarking about those moments where he did seem to antagonize the board. But do you get the sense that this will effect the ultimate decision of whether or not these commissioners let him go . I dont know whether or not theyll discuss the 95 case. They say they wont, but on the other hand, if youre looking at o. J. Simpson to assess whether or not hes truly remorseful how can you find that he is . If you know that he is sitting in front of you lying . Over and over again. The notion that he rehabilitative, accepted responsibility for his conduct in this case. What does he say . I wish it had never happened. He blames the guy that had a concealed weapon permit. So you knew he was armed. You bring him to the room and simpson says, well, i didnt know he pointed a gun at someone. Well, why did you bring a man with a gun to the room in the first place . I mean, i dont buy that. I dont believe that. There was a moment when the 1995 trial was brought up. It was brought up by one of the commissioners, susan jackson, i want to play that then well continue our discussion. We received hundreds letters of support and opposition, the majority of the opposition letters are asking us to consider your 1995 acquittal and subsequent civil judgment, however, these items will not considered in this case. Thank you. Thank you. I dont know if she was speaking for herself that she wont consider it or if that was a decision of the board itself. You obviously are very close to this and we understand this, taken though as an Armed Robbery and as a nine year sentence, any other case would you think that this is a case thats a slam dunk for parol . Well, i can tell you this, o. J. Simpson is convinced that he is about to get a parol day. He is laid back and, you know, easy and feels like theres no way he wont get a parol. Nine years on a robbery, where the individual is not armed. I dont think that that is an outrageous sentence. I would not complain if an individual with no criminal history committed a robbery where he did not physically harm the victim. And was not armed. I would consider a nine year sentence more than fair. But not in this case, not with o. J. Simpson . His case is different. When you line people up, when you say dont let anybody leave this room and you say it to a guy with a handgun, that i think changes everything. I think the victims at that point are far more vulnerable to being injured, of being killed. You know, they talk about it as a robbery, but its not a robbery, its a kidnapping. And he was convicted of those counts. He has in fact served nine years. The question is will he serve additional days . Additional years and he could if he is not paroled today. Lets go to Cynthia Mcfadden who is the Senior Investigative correspondent. Ill put the same question, a lot of people at this and say based on the facts of this case, was this an overcharge . Was he sentenced with frankly hanging over the air the case that many, many people think justice was not done and that is the double murder trial for which he was acquitted. Yeah, savannah, i think it would be hard to find many people who think that an Armed Robbery would normally get 33 years in prison. I think, you know, there had to be some shades of what, you know, you have to couldnt pretend you didnt know what lay in the background. I dont think mr. Simpson did himself good for the beginning what have he had to say to the panel. Not only combative and cocky it seemed to me, but he also didnt do something he promised the parol board he would do back in 2013 when he last appeared in front of them, which was a attend aa classes. So you know, and he had same lamebrained excuse about that. I didnt think things were going well. I actually think his best hope comes with the victim who testified saying that he had forgiven mr. Simpson with mr. Simpsons daughter and at the very end he says hes sorry. I have to say, i thought the beginning of the hearing was a disaster for him. And he didnt perform anywhere near as well as he had at the 2013 hearing. I think chris darden is right, i think he went in the room believing he was going to get parol and he, he was trying to make his case. The public fascination with this case is never ending. Even the lead commissioner, there noted they were doing things a little differently because of the incredible attention. The court of a Public Opinion has continued to watch o. J. Simpson since 1995, last year, nbc news wall street journal poll brought up the question about o. J. Simpsons copability in the murders he was accused of of his wife and friend. In june of last year, 69 of registered voters believe that simpson did commit the murders. That was an alltime high. Only 7 said he did not. So even after all of these years, people are still litigating that case and that make no mistake, thats the case, not this one that creates the interest were seeing here. Absolutely. But for some people, the people that feel that was a travesty of justice in 1995 that he walked on those charges, many people took comfort, carpalic comfort that in the sense, all right, he is behind bars. Chris darden would probably put himself in that category, would you, chris . Well, you know you know, its really not my call. And, you know, i cant spend my life worrying about o. J. s whereabouts as long as he isnt standing behind me with a butcher knife. But when i think about this hearing and i think the victim testimony, and usually victim impact testimony is powerful testimony. But here, it seems as if the victim has a monetary interest in o. J. Simpson being released. Simpsons lawyer eluded to some judgment and some ongoing civil litigation in california that he wanted o. J. Simpson to take care of. And it sounds to me he wants o. J. Simpson out so o. J. Simpson can pay off a judgment. You know, thats strange. And it would cause me as a commissioner to question just how important or how much weight to lend to the victims testimony. I want to go out to joe frier right now who is in lovelock outside the prison. Hes been following developments there. We heard just part of a recess, they were going to now retire and deliberate. This is going to be a short, a short break. We will know very shortly whether o. J. Simpson will be granted parol. Reporter yeah, they said it was going to take about 40 minutes. Theyre going to deliberate, go over everything, probably have a good idea of how things are going it turn out. Then they are going to vote publicly. Heres the situation, you saw four commissioners there in carson city. They must have a unanimous decision one way or the other. If its not unanimous decision, theyre going to bring in two additional commissioners whove been listening into all of this from las vegas, and then they will take a vote of all six. O. J. Simpson would need at least four out of six much those commissioners to vote yet in order to be granted parol if four vote no, then parol is rejected. And they likely set another hearing from one to three years from now. And there is an unusual situation here, it could be a three to three tie. Typically thats not supposed to happen. Typically this parol board should have seven members, but theres a vacancy right now, and its not going to be filled until after this hearing. So in the strange event there is a three to three tie, theyre going to kick this down the road, six more months and have another hearing in january. See if hes granted parol, october would be the earliest he walks out. Reporter october 1st is the earliest eligibility date. I dont think were going to get a date today if they decide to get him parol. Therell be a report done. Hell try to figure out a game plan for his supervision down the road if he is released, they take up the issue of whether hed get to transferred to florida. That was discussed label the in the middle of the hearing. October 1st is the earliest he could be released. Joe frier outside of the prison in lovelock where we a await that verdict from the Board Members. We have a piece of sound from the hearing if youre just tuning in. We saw different shapes in terms of his level of remorse and his level of deference to the commissioners. Here he is talking about him doing his time for the crime. Ive done my time. You know, aye done it as well and as respectfully as i think anybody can. I think if you talk to the warden, theyll tell you, ive been i gave them my word, i believe in the jury system, ive honored their verdict. I have not complained for nine years, all ive done is try to be helpful and encourage the guys around there, hey man, do your time, fight in court. And dont do anything thats going to extend your time. And thats the life ive tried to live. O. J. Simpson, his final appeal to the commissioners there. I want to ask you, savannah, during the commissioners questioning, you were working on a form here that was essentially the nevada parol risk assessment. So notion whatevers said here, theyre keeping a score. Its a score card. And its one they use for every parol lee that comes before this board and they look at a variety of factors, and we heard the chairman of the commission go through them. And everything from the age, at first arrest to the age of the offender now. We remember of course she said youre 90, no, im 70. Anyway, when you add up the points, you want to get a low score. On this score card, he received a low score that ultimately concludes that hes a lowrisk. And that would argue for releasing him, but it is not just positive. It is not the only thing the point being, this is not resting solely on what we heard today. Its a report from the prison officials on his behavior. We heard that hes never had an infraction in prison. Its a variety of different factors. Its ultimately a matter of discretion. And thats why its interesting to sit here as we wait for 45 mike pence or whatever it may be, yes, there are some objective factors this board will look at, but a lot of it is discretionary. So were in some spence here. Parol commissioners again, deliberating right now. They promised a five minute warning. They will come back out and vote on camera. We will carry that for you live. Lets take a break. Well continue to monitor everything coming out of nevada as soon as theyre ready. We will come back on the air. For now im lester holt with Savannah Guthrie, nbc News New York is next. Our special report o. J. Simpson testifying and breaking news as youve been watching for the last 90 minutes. O. J. Simpson testifying before a nevada parol board. Good morning and thank you for joining us. It was a decade ago and it was a crime of kidnapping, Armed Robbery, and assault that landed simpson behind bars, this morning, he pleaded with those parol commissioners for a chance to come back home after expressing his contrition. We do have Team Coverage for you this morning. Pete talked with a local attorney and bob riddell has been watching the nuts and bolts of this. And we know they were going to deliberate, bob, for about 30 minutes, were about 15 minutes into that burden of proof do you pick it up from here . You can talk about what happened. This hearing started at 10 00 this morning. The naught was that kris it was only going last 15 minutes. It lasted an hour on top of that. He is sorry, he had no intention to commit a crime. Hes done his time. That he has spent a conflictfree life. There was o. J. Simpson entering lovelock prison, that Conference Room there at 10 00 this morning. And he spoke Via Teleconference that was located in carson city. The board pointed out, there are a number of positive factors they will take under consideration on whether or not to grant parol. One, simpson has no priest convictions. He has a plan for life outside of prison. He has the support of his family, including his daughter arnelle who did speak on behalf of him this morning. Hes been a model prisoner in the nine years he has served for his botched Armed Robbery. Simpson was convicted of kidnapping, Armed Robbery, and ten other charges related to a robbery at a Las Vegas Hotel back in 2007. Thats where simpson said he was trying to recover Sports Memorabilia and other personal items from two collectors he knew. One board member this morning questioned simpson about why he brought Armed Security with him to that hotel room. He knows i would never, ever direct anybody to point a gun at him or even threaten him. Ive never don this in my life. I want to point out, you mention all the gun charges. Bruce and alfred, they made it clear during the trial that i had no weapon. They didnt feel threatened by me. And that i didnt threaten them. It was the other two security guys that did that. I havent made any excuses in the nine years that ive been here, and im not trying to make any excuses now. A few moments later, there was this somewhat Combative Exchange between simpson and board member corda. Well, youre that was on me. The offenses differ label the about the official record, mr. Simpson. Considering the fact that what we have on record, you were there property was taken. Oh, i was there. Im sorry, next question. Now as you mentioned, chris and sam, about 20 minutes ago, those four parol Board Members went away. They are going to deliberate and they plan to be back in about 15 minutes to vote. If it is not a unanimous decision, then what theyll do is have two colleagues down in las vegas, two other Board Members thatll come in and have a toeflt six, and they would vote and come to some decision if o. J. Simpson is granted parol. The earliest hed be eligible would be october 1st. Reporting live here in the newsroom, bob riddell, nbc bay area news. Thank you so much, bob. We are expecting and some time in the next 10, 15 minutes or so to hear back from the parol commissioners and find out whether or not they have concluded their deliberations. We are getting local roox right now from a prominent bay area civil rights attorney who is very familiar with the trials and tribulations of o. J. Simpson. Pete virginia toes is live and talked to john, he must have something to say about this. Its been interesting to watch the process all this. Reporter yeah, thats right, good morning to you guys back in the newsroom. I did speak with john burst about this. Of course hes weighed in heavily on o. J. Simpson during his trials and tribulations over the years, and he believes that that 33 year sentence received was too harsh. In fact, it was more of retribution for the not guilty verdict ten years prior, but as you can see with all the Media Attention towards simpson, he says it shows just how polar iegz of a figure o. J. Simpson still is. One could not underestimate the importance of the o. J. Simpson trial of the 1990s. And it reflected a racial divide that existed in the country, but gavelized the nation. And so he is a person of significant interest. Reporter of course were still waiting on the decision, but he believes if o. J. Is released, he expects him to take advantage of a pension. Something most prisoners dont get a chance to do. He wants to reminds folks, with him on parol, one slipup and he could be in the same situation. Live in emeryville, nbc bay area news. All right, thanks, pete. Moving on to news here at home. Continuing coverage for the search of a gunman who shot a father dead pushing his baby in a stroller. This happened around yesterday at 3 00 in the afternoon in hayward. It was near cherryland park. The baby was not hit by the gunfire. Now police want to know if the dad was targeted and if so, why . A man who says hes friends with the victim says hes happy when he was spending with his new baby. Oh man, he was anticipate. He called him little man. Hes like a twin. We believe theres an associated vehicle, we believe theres suspects related to the vehicle. Whether they go out on foot or shot from the vehicle, those are all things were working through right now. The Sheriffs Office did take custody of the baby. Theyre now trying to find the babys mother. The fathers identity has not been released. What started as a routine checkup for arizona senator john mccain turned to a discovery of a blood clot. After that, the discovery of a brain tumor. The stunning turn of events has lawmakers putting politics aside for now. It is one of the most common and also one of the most aggressive brain tumors there is. Doctors discovered that tumor after mccain had surgery for the blood clot last week. The Mayo Clinic Hospital in phoenix, we asked ucsf, dr. Susan challenge about this kind of fastmoving cancer. If no therapy is performed, they are so aggressive, were looking at months of survival. With treatment, we can extend that. The average is probably about a year to 15 months. So all of the players of lawmakers right now are with mr. Mccain. As we know his good health works in his favor. His age, hes 80 years old, does not. Developing news now, Detwiler Fire burning near yosemite continues to grow. Strike teams are making their way to battle the fire. As the last update says this, its burned 70,000 acres. The fire nearly doubled what it was yesterday. It is though 10 contained. 1500 structures are threatened, 45 structures are destroyed outright and six are damaged. Evacuation orders remain in effect for the surrounding area. And people who live in mary poe is a are still away from home. They are hoping for the best. One of the towns thats been evacuated. Reporter almost everyone left under the sheriffs evacuation order, but some people did stay behind, but not have many. And the town, besides the firefighters here is eerily similar to a ghost town. Especially this time of year when it should did be filled with tourists and town folks. People here packed up their families belongings, animals, and rolled out of town yesterday. More than 5,000 people total between colterville, other areas evacuated and red cross shelters are across mary poe is a county. Now we talked to a couple of bay area families today who refused to leave. Instead spraying their homes with water and trying to save them. Including this woman. In her 150yearold home that has been in her family for six generations. I had dad spent a lot of hard work hard work on it. Its special. Very special. Nancy hill says its those shifting winds that worry her most though. One minute the fire is moving away from colterville, and then a change in wind correction pushes is right back towards the historic town. A promising note from one rancher in town though whos going around to the Property Owners and telling them that hes been surveying the fire area, and it looks like right now, the fire is moving away from colterville, but again, those unpredictable winds. In colterville, tom jenson, nbc bay area news. Thank you, tom. We will continue to watch the progress of firefighters battling the Detwiler Fire. Some of whom are from the bay area. Our coverage wont stop as long as its burning. You can find instant updates at nbcbayarea. Com. The warm weather is only supposed to intensify over the coming days. Theres a live look at downtown san francisco, all of that fog that was just covering, blanketing the sympathy morning, its pretty much gone now. Lets turn it over to kerry hall with the very latest. We are looking at patchy areas of fog right now as we look live at the peninsula and the daily city camera. It is foggy there, of course you head on the other side of the hill, its all clear. Temperatures in the low 70s, its 60 degrees in san francisco. And the north bay, at 73 degrees with high temperatures still very warm. Thank you, kari. We are awaiting a decision from nevada any minute now. Also, elon musk is making a big announcement this morning on the future of the hyper loop system. How that sprojt moving forward, next. Welcome back right now. Live look, chris, from inside the carson city courtroom in nevada as we are waiting for those four parol commissioners to come back and announce what their decision is after about 90 minutes or so of testimony this morning from o. J. Simpson, from his daughter, from his attorney, and other people connected to his life. Weve heard the testimony of those folks. And they were supposed to take about 30 minutes to take their conversation out of the room where o. J. Simpson is sitting with his attorney. And discuss how they are going to proceed going forward. They dont know if theyre going to let him go on parol. The earliest would be october 1st, as bob riddell was reporting earlier this morning. We did take a special report earlier, and we did hear some of that testimony, in fact, all of it. It started at 10 00 this morning. It was only supposed to be a half hour hearing and it went about an hour and 15 minutes. So now they are talking about whether or not they will grant the parol. There were four commissioners there today. And they have to come to a unanimous decision if he is in fact going to be granted his parol, and as bob mentioned, if theyre unable, they would pull in another two commissioners from outside of carson city, and they would be making that decision collectively. Lets go to nbc newss special report. An an Armed Robbery conviction, the nevada parol board in carson city held a hearing a short time ago and simpson himself made a direct appeal to the board by video link from the Lovelock Correctional Center where he has incarcerated since 2008. They turned over to me property that im in jail for for trying to retrieve. You know, it was my property. I wouldnt ever steal from anybody. And i would never, ever pull a weapon on anybody. That was simpson during the hearing. And i believe we have a live shot now of simpson back in that room. Now that is the lovelock correctional facility. Very loose. A man feels good about what transpired earlier today. His sister and daughter we believe are still in the room. You know, we dont know who hes talking to here. There he is awaiting this news. And over in carson city which is 100 miles away is where we have the parol commissioners and informed the media, theyre about five minutes away from issuing a decision. Thats a hearing room, o. J. Simpson waiting to hear his fit. Cynthia mcdpaden is our correspondent, she covered the o. J. Criminal trial and murder trial in 1995. And had been watching this session today. From everything you have heard and the folks you have talked to, is there little standing in the way of him being released or release being ordered . I think what we heard from the commissioners make it seem that there is very little standing in the way of his being released. Although, my heart is pounding. I remember the exact same circumstances, very different stakes in 1995, being ushered into the courtroom of a a very brief deliberation by that criminal jury. And thinking that there was going to be a conviction and there was not one. So im not sure i trust my gut when it come to o. J. Simpson. I think based on what we heard, based on what the aggravating sirksz were in the mitigating circumstances, based on the parol boards checklist, i think hes going to walk out of there in october. If you read body language, he seems to think, lets listen in, i think we can hear him on the microphone in that hearing room. We see him talking. Just turned it down. So they probably got wind that the whole world was listening and watching as we await this decision. Joe frier has been covering this for us as we watch the commissioners walk in live and joe it certainly seems speaking of body language, if you just kind of looked at what the commissioners were asking, some of the testimony they heard for example from somebody talking about the release and going to a different state. Seems like this was headed in the direction of parol being granted, but well know in a few minutes. Reporter well know for sure. I know the questions they have to ask in a situation like this. What were looking for to happen right now, theyre going to take a vote with the four commissioners there. They must reach unanimous decision, if they dont, theyre going to quickly reach out to two additional commissioners who have been listening in on this, back to you. And the full team of commissioners now is present. And we will listen as they make their decision. I call this parol hearing back into order. Are you ready to vote . Chairman. Ill start off. Mr. Simpson, you organized this crime, in which two victims were robbed at gunpoint. It was a serious crime, and there was no excuse for it. You deserve to be sent to prison. You have been in prison now almost nine years. The minimum amount opposed by the court. You have complied with the rules of the prison, you have programmed in an acceptable manner. You have no prior conviction of criminal activity. Youre of low risk to reoffend on our guidelines. You have Community Support and stable release plans. We have heard from you and from your victim. The question here, as with all parol hearings is whether or not you have served enough time in prison on this case. Considering all of these factors, my vote is to grant your patrol effective when eligible. Thank you. And i concur with commissioner and grant parol. And in addition, our decision, although difficult, is fair and just. I concur with commissioner corda and agree to grant parol. Mr. Simpson, before i cast my vote, i want to let you know that we believe that were a fair board. Twhaebl were a consistent board. I will let you know that that consistency also goes to parol, and we do not look kindly upon parol violations. And if i cast my vote to grant and it concludes the hearing, our expectation would be that you not violate even the simplest condition of parol. Having said that, i am prepared to cast a vote, i am prepared to ask the commissioners to set conditions on if that happened, we will produce an order some time in the next 15 to 20 minutes that will be faxed to you or presented to you at the institution and it will become a public record. So, based on all of that, mr. Simpson, i do vote to grant parol when eligible. And that will conclude this hearing. Thank you. Thank you. [ applause ] well, reaction not unlike one we saw in a los angeles courtroom in 1995. This one is not about guilt or innocence, this one is about o. J. Simpson being granted parol for a robbery, a 2007 robbery in nevada. The four members of the present there in carson city, of the nevada parol commission, unanimous in their decision to grant parol. And the shadow of that 1995 double murder acquittal hangs over this case, if not legally, then as a practical matter. Christopher darden was one of the lead prosecutors in the simpson murder case. A key person to ask at this moment, how do you feel, o. J. Simpson, standing up, walking out of that hearing room and soon, probably as soon as october, hes going to walk into society once again. How does that sit with you . Im not bothered by it. Not my case, and, you know, this case is not the case of a double murder in los angeles. Nevada made the call, you know, i wont complain about it. It is what it is. You know. I assume you have followed him over the years, at least followed news reports, certainly his arrest in nevada. Hearing the maybe human being reduce, maybe thats too strong of a word, things he said earlier this in that hearing, what do you give him to successfully live a life as a parol lee . I think the best indicator, you know, indicating that he could be successful on parol is his age. The fact that he is 70 years old. You know, 70yearolds tend to not be resid vows in terms of violent crimes. Little bit too old. The world and miami its a little bit safer because o. J. Simpsons 70. Lets go to Cynthia Mcfadden and talk about what life out of prison might be like for o. J. Simpson and let us not forget that while being acquitted of the criminal case, he was found civilly liable and handed a civil judgment in the tens of millions of dollars, and that has dogged him and really the heart of this trial in las vegas in many, many ways. What can he expect from life on the outside . How does he make a living. As you elude to, savannah, the judgment against him was just 33 million, he has paid back, according to to the Goldman Family who havent been specific, but said in the six figures hes paid back. But pennies on the dollar of what he actually owed. In florida, any home he might possess would be protected. They cant go after that. His pension from the nfl and any other kind of pension he might have is protected. He does not have to work under the terms of the parol release, you heard them say that being retired was considered a status that was acceptable. But, you know, hes going to get all kinds of offers. We talked to people earlier today who said hed be able to sell his signature, hed be able to be paid for doing selfies with people. I interviewed alan who was one of his attorneys, part of the dream team back in the day and asked him what he thought his advice was to shut up, go away, live a private life that no one wanted to hear from him. He would be ill advised to sign autographs or do television. Were going to follow that up a little bit tonight on nightly news and see what life might look like. Then moving off to florida, is that a given that that will be allowed . There were good relationships between states. And it looks to me as if thats where hes headed. You heard him elude to going to florida. Thats probably what the plan is, you heard nevada saying listen, we will yank you back, pull you back if you violate this in any way and additionally, not only subject to whatever nevada says the terms of the release are, he will also be responsible for whatever, florida, additional terms they may put on him. I think the likely chance is in october, o. J. Simpson will be headed to florida. And we heard the commissioner say that in about 15, 20 minutes, theyre going to fax over the condition of his parol. Were going to learn more presumably in the few hours to come. This is not a question of reoffended in violent way. This is any number of things. Zpll and the spent right back where you were, right back into prison. This was a minimum nine Year Prison Sentence up to 33 years. He has served the minimum come october. This was the first chance of parol when he could actually walk out of prison. So if he violates the conditions of his parol, it would not be difficult for them to stick it and claw him back. He cant unanimously slip back into society. He is o. J. Simpson. Every behavior will be observed. Absolutely. Well that concludes our special report. There will be continuing coverage on this on msnbc and nbc news. Com. Ill see you this evening with more on nbc nightly news on this very busy news day. Im lester holt in new york with Savannah Guthrie, have a good day everyone. Oh, i like this song in the video, demi lovatos new video for sorry, not sorry. Thats the best apology ever. Features paris hilton, jamie foxx getting down with khalifa. Who has the mfi