Learning the fire claimed the total of three lives. Two victims identified this morning. Nbc bay area Stephanie Chuang in middletown this morning. You spoke to one of the people who knew one of the victims very well. Reporter she heard early this morning she heard from Sheriff Deputies, but its not getting any easier. Were into day six and people are getting news of the latest death and making this a lot tougher. I want to say we are back in middletown and standing in front of ro sa gonzalezs house, or whats left of it. We met her in the Evacuation Center in calistoga today and yesterday. We said wed come and check it out. You really cant tell what is standing. Just some trucks and foundation and some of the garage. Meanwhile Lake County Office confirmed two bodies around 8 30 last night. A body found presumed to be bruce burns and based on a second location, the sheriff says the other body is expected to be the body of leonard neft. He told his wife saturday afternoon he didnt smell smoke and wasnt going to leave then moments later realized he needed to get out and try to drive a little and hike out of the area. Now, we found a worker at the middletown chevron station. She says early this morning lake county Sheriff Deputies told her about finding neft. She says he used to own that store and convinced her to work for him years ago and would still visit after selling it. She recalled the last time she saw him just three weeks ago. I didnt know it was the last time to see him. Just kept running back skb forth to each other and i didnt want to let go of him. And i wanted that day i wanted to take a picture of us holding each other tight. Man, i wish i had my ipod, take a picture. Now finding out hes gone its really hitting me hard. Reporter shes still grappling with the reality of that. But someone here to help with the emotion is harry with International Canine Search and rescue. Hes down from portland for his first day at the valley fire. He says to help find missing people and pets. He says his border kcollies specialize in grief therapy helping those who have lost loved ones. Its sad whether a bombing, earthquake, drowning, its all sad. Were here to help maybe give these people some closure. Reporter back here live youre seeing some of the devastation, but there are a lot of areas still too dangerous for people to go into. I just got off the phone with harry. He said hes on standby and learned he may have to come back to the area when the fire is more under control. As for leonard neft presumed again to be one of the two found dead last night, calita described him as very generous, loving and would do anything for those close to him and wanted to honor him and thats why she spoke with us today. She said he also still really loved the store. Shes going to continue to try to keep that store open because she believes he would be proud the way she and others there are helping those who need it here in middletown. Stephanie, thank you. We know that strong winds and dry conditions played a huge role in the spread of the valley fire, but now were learning a beetle infestation may have made things worse as well. It all starts with the drought. Dry trees attract bark beetles and a beetle infestation can make the forest even drier. That could be one of the reasons behind the unprecedented speed at which those flames moved in the valley fire. In the meantime another wild fire turned deadly this morning. Officials say the bodies of two people were found in burned debris in calaveras county. The butte fire started about a week ago and has already burned more than 70,000 acres and more than 200 homes. It is 45 contained this morning. We continue to cover this story online at nbcbayarea. Com. Youll find lots of interviews and information on how to donate. All the wildfires that have ravaged california this year means Insurance Companies going to pay a lot of money. In fact, experts say it may be the costliest year for the Insurance Industry in more than 20 years. So far there are more than 300,000 properties in california at high or very high risk of wildfire damage. Its estimated it could cost more than 100 billion to rebuild all the structures that were destroyed. Happening right now, American Airlines has stopped flights headed to dallas, chicago and miami because of a Computer Systems problem. We know that there are massive flight failures there in dallas and in those other cities, but we know there are also three that are effected at san jose. The flights are grounded until at least midafternoon today. A spokesperson says crews are working to fix that computer outage. But so far the only impact is out of san jose, oakland and San Francisco are not effected. And onto decision 2016. Right now donald trump may lead in the polls, but a day after the second gop debate it seems californias Carly Fiorina stole the show. Speaking on today show fiorina said voters now know who she is. When i went in half the audience didnt know my name and didnt know i was running for president. And i think i successfully introduced myself to those who did not know me. And demonstrated once again that i am the most qualified candidate on that stage to win this job and to do this job. Fiorina also made her mark on social media. Carly fiorina daughter was the most searched debate after she talked about losing her 35yearold stepdaughter to drug addiction. And she gained the highest number of new twitter followers, about 20,000 during the debate. Also during the debate she took aim at trump as did the other candidates. I think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. Trump said. I think shes got a beautiful face. And i think shes a beautiful woman. Do we want someone with that kind of character, that kind of careless language to be negotiating with putin . We dont need an apprentice in the white house. We have one right now. We shouldnt be fighting with each other. Shes the real opponent. Shes the real problem. And that she is Hillary Clinton, the only democrat mentioned by name in that threehour debate. The next Republican Debate is not until late october which is after the democrats first debate. We will have a full wrapup of last nights debate coming up in our next half hour. Also new at 11 00, Three Friends from sacramento who stopped a terrorist on a train to paris got a personal meeting with president obama this morning. Anthony sadler, National Guard specialist alek and u. S. Airmen Spencer Stone met with the president in the oval office. The men have been hailed as hee roars for stopping a gunman on a parisbound train in august. The three were on vacation at the time. In addition to visiting the white house they had a parade thrown in their honor in sacramento and received frances top honor. An intense new Training Program is now under way after three jail guards allegedly beat and killed a mentally ill inmate at the Santa Clara County jail. The Sheriffs Department is now teaching correctional officer cadets with how to deal with mentally ill inmates. The new program is designed to help cadets better interact with prisoners and how to spot signs that an inmate needs help. We recognize that we have a different inmate population now. Its changing in terms of more Mental Health. So its very crucial they get the training before they go into the jails. Cadets used to only get four hours of Mental Health training. Now they will get 40. Police in concord are looking for a man who they say used a gun to rob people at an atm last month. Those robberies happened august 27th and september 3rd. Police released this surveillance photo just yesterday. In each the man walks up to people using an atm, shows them a gun and then demands their money. There was another man with him acting as look out. If you know who either of those two men are Concord Police want to hear from you. Shock rippling through the San Jose Police department after a sergeant was arrested for indecent exposure. Police arrested james mason on friday on woodside road in redwood city. They say a woman reported the 13year veteran exposing himself in his personal car as she walked by. Officers say she even took photos of the incident. Im walking to get away from him. And then she noticed his car was parked up ahead of her again. And as she walked by him this time she used the phone on her camera to take some pictures. Mason is currently on administrative leave. Hes been charged with indecent exposure and committing a lewd act in public. If convicted he would spend a year in jail. New developments in a bizarre kidnapping case once declared a hoax by vallejo police. This morning the victims plan to sue the city. Back in march dee and her boyfriend aaron say kidnappers broke into their home, abducted huskins and demanded money. Two days later huskins turned up safe in Huntington Beach hours before the ransom was due. Police questioned their story crosscla claiming the couple made it up. Then a month later a man arrested for committing the crime. The city made unfair and false accusations against the couple by denying the kidnapping was real. Happening today an Environmental Group is raising concerns about the cal trans plan to bring down a large piece of the old bay bridge in one big blast. Right now crews are dismantling the eastern span piece by piece, but there is a plan to take down the biggest pier, a 260foot chunk of concrete with explosives. Today an Environmental Group will propose that plan at a public hearing. The group says using explosives could spread concrete debris into the bay. Cal trans argues it would be able to contain that rubble. A cisighting and warning to tell you about. Police say a Mountain Lion recently spotted in san mateo. Officers say they found the lion wandering around clearview way and Creekridge Court not far from 280 and san mateo. An alert was issued to neighbors as a precaution but officers say the animal did not act threat threateningly to anyone. Up next at 11 00, the Federal Reserve has made a decision on interest rate, Unemployment Rate dropping as well. Well take it all in coming up. And a business lunch meeting could be a thing of the past. Why more people are choosing to sweat it out. Im meteorologist kari hall. Were getting some breaks in the clouds as we head into the afternoon. And were keeping the mild temperatures, but that will not be the case this weekend. Ill have the microclimate forecast coming up. Here at humana, we value sticking with things. When something works, people stick with it. 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Obviously this will affect things like mortgages when it does come. It is good news for our economy in the sense that there will be more money in the system. Its bad news for all the people that were anguishing about a fed rate hike because now they got to anguish for a couple more months. Some good news on the job front, the number of americans filing for unemployment fell last week. The Labor Department says the Weekly Applications fell to a seasonally adjusted 264,000. Thats the lowest since july. On average employers have been adding more than 240,000 a month. Thats helped bring the Unemployment Rate down to around 5 . Federal prosecutors have announced a settlement with General Motors over faulty ignition switches. Reports say gm will pay a fine of about 1 billion. Gm recalled 2. 6 million cars worldwide to repair switches linked to 124 deaths and 275 injuries. Apple unveiled its latest mobile operating system yesterday. And it did not go quite according to plan. Many say when they tried to download the ios update they got a message saying Software Update failed. Meantime apple is delaying the release of the apple watch because developers are on a bug thats taking longer than expected to fix. The update was supposed to be made public yesterday as well. New credit Card Regulations go into effect next month requiring chip and Signature Cards which is supposed to be a much more secure system than the swipe and sign method. New survey shows Many Americans think it doesnt go far enough. More than half the people who took the National Retail association think chip and Signature Cards arent safe enough. They prefer a card with a pin over the signature card. Some banks claim credit card users dont want to remember a pin. That Research Shows thats not true. More than 80 of americans believe using a pin is more secure even if it means remembering a few extra numbers. I think i can remember a few numbers. The fight for Affordable Housing in San Francisco continues this morning. A public hearing going on right now at city hall on the proposed 5m highrise project. The Planning Commission along with the rec and Park Department will hear concerns from people who live in the neighborhood, many of whom are worried about being priced out. The developer of the 470foot highrise project says a portion of the units will be Affordable Housing as required by law. Earlier this week he was in handcuffs, but this morning a 14yearold boy from texas is the talk of Silicon Valley and beyond. It is a positive turn of event who on monday he was arrested for bringing a homemade alarm clock to school to show his engineering teacher. The principal and teachers in irving, texas found it to be suspicious and mohammad was arrested at school. Yesterday Mark Zuckerberg invited him to visit facebooks headquarters in menlo park. Google invited him to the science fair this weekend. And an invitation from the president said want to bring it to the white house . We should inspire more kids like you to like science. Its what makes america. It was a totally cool clock. The valley fire to our north has left a trail of devastation, but today San Francisco firefighters hoping to be in a bright spot. The lives of kids displaced by flames fire views and volunteers loaded donated toys to send to evacuees in lake county. San francisco firefighters have been helping fight that valley fire. The toy donation not new for them. This year last year rather the Fire Department distributed over 200,000 toys to disadvantaged children. Another bit of good news from the fire zone. Animal rescuers looking for lost dogs near the butte fire came across this guy. It is a 4monthold Mountain Lion cub. The cub had burns on its paws and the hair on its face was singed from the fire. Small animals may not be able to get out in front of a fast moving fire. However, for the most part large animals such as deer, bear, Mountain Lions usually can get out in front and make it to safety. But thats not always the case. Rescuers say they were able to just walk on over to that little guy and pick him up. He was taken to an Animal Hospital in turlock. There they named him fire claw. Well, some business deals and connections are still made on the golf course or over a martini. Thats kind of old school though. Erica edwards introduces us to a new healthier way to network called sweat working. Reporter in what looks more like a prison than a place to find your heart center, this group of women is using an old warehouse in charlotte to combine work with working out. People come in all tense from the workday and then they come out all zen and relaxed. Reporter its a business meeting reinvented called sweat working. Lindsey cunningham says doing yoga with potential clients and coworkers takes the intimidation out of typically Stuffy Office meet and greets. Youre getting to know people on a personal level. They dont have to go in work clothes. Come as you are, have fun and just be yourself. Reporter thats not the only place to make new connections. In the middle of some of the poses i really was taking chugs. Reporter yes, meaning beer. Its called yoga on tap and attracts more than 500 yogis in a single night. They practice downward dog outside before downing beer. There are certain poses you do and youll be stuck there. And the minute you can feel a breathe changes everything like that. And afterwards you get to drink beer and hang out with friends. Reporter beer is a perk. Organizers say on these nights yoga is the draw. Its not about coming and getting drunk. Its about coming and doing something good for yourself as well as being together as a community and getting to know people in the community that otherwise you wouldnt have met. Reporter turning Old Fashioned networking on its head. Erica edwards, nbc news. Silicon valley has been doing this for years in sense of venture capitalists on bicycles, making deals all the time. I dont want to wear yoga pants near my boss though. Lets check in with kari. There was some rain that helped out that fire. Not so much anymore. Its all dried out. Its all moved away from the area. And in healdsburg we see the sky is clearing. In some spots we are still seeing those clouds holding on. Look back toward the rainfall totals we had yesterday. We did have some daily rainfall records set like in santa rosa you had. 4 of an inch. In napa near a quarter of an inch of rain. San francisco 0. 04 and then you see the trend going downward. We really didnt have any rain in san jose. We had some trace amounts as the rain moved past San Francisco, but the average amount of rain we get in san jose is close to. 2 and then it kind of doubles month by month until december. And were looking forward to more rain. That rain once again hopefully helped in the valley fire and the crews trying to get some containment on that fire. And 75 degrees will be the High Temperature today. And then the weather conditions not looking that favorable as the temperatures heat up. The winds will still be breezy and heading into the weekend were talking some upper 90s there. As we head into today the wind forecast brings in more of a northerly wind at all levels of the atmosphere. And then they carry some of that smoke into the bay area today. So the air quality may be going down. We could have some gusts up to about 20 miles an hour. Look at all the microclimates today. In san jose 80 degrees. 79 degrees in palo alto. Mission district at 70 degrees. Most of us in the 70s and low 80s today still feeling comfortable. And napa 80 degrees. Brentwood 84. And san ramon today reaching 79 degrees. Now the front continues to move off to the east, were getting ready for some High Pressure to start to build. And that will keep us from getting a strong onshore flow. And as that air sinks from that High Pressure it warms. And the valleys will be up to the 90s to 100 degrees as we head through the weekend. In the south bay tomorrow a high of 87 degrees and then jumps up to 93 on saturday. Sunday 98 degrees. Well have a lot of 90s on the map heading into sunday and even a few spots in the trivalley hitting 100 degrees. Weve had a nice little break from the heat this week. The rain yesterday. Well, now were getting ready for those temperatures to ramp back up and peak as we head into sunday. Scott and kris. Thank you much. Up next at 11 00, rethinking emergencies. How a new app is helping First Responders get to the victims faster than ever before. And consider it tinder for bacon lovers. The app just released by a name you might recognize. Help. A Bay Area Company is being recognized by the whiteou well, changing the way you get help. A Bay Area Company is being recognized by the white house for developing an app that helps emergency crews find your location. The oakland based blue light app allows you to send your location to 911 dispatchers right away from smartphone. Right now 911 can pinpoint your location from a land line while finding you can take seconds sometimes minutes. The app allows you to alert family and friends when youre in trouble. Change the way that emergency calls are routed and what information they have for dispatchers to get you the best help. A blue light did win a National Competition and was recognized by the white house this week for its innovation. They have plans to test their products with several major cities across the u. S. Next year. Pope francis makes his first trip to the u. S. Next week. Already people camping out for tickets to see him in person. Many people like this lady here set up shop outside st. Dennis church in pennsylvania. Theyve got pillows and sleeping bags and other necessities. Tickets handed out this morning on a first come first serve basis. Now, you want to know where the pope is while hes in the United States . There will be an app for that. Pope francis making that trip a week from tomorrow visiting the u. S. Conference of catholic bishops. Conference leaders are getting ready for him with that app. It will give new details about the popes visit, stream video of stops in washington, d. C. , philadelphia and new york. Many catholics excited about the app hoping it will draw younger fans into the church. Meanwhile, got an app out there to help you meet that special someone if you dont have one already. Theres one as well designed if you and other people love bacon. Yeah. Oscar mayer unveiled its sizzl app. Users can set up a profile with personal information along with their preferences when it comes to bacon. The company says in love and in bacon people should never settle for less. You can use the pope app, not on fridays. No, no. Up next at 11 00 the republican president ial candidates throwing their best punches, but whose landed . Well have a breakdown of the highlights coming up. Plus a major earthquake hits chile. New video out of the region next. Welcome back, im scott mcgrew. Kris 2shot and im kris sanchez. 11 republican president ial candidates squared off in a debate. Each trying to defend welcome back everybody. Im scott mcgrew. And im kris sanchez. 11 republican president ial candidates squared off in a debate on a stage barely big enough to contain them. Each trying to defend their positions while taking jabs at others. There was also a lot of talk about issues like immigration and foreign policy. We break down the latest. Reporter front runner donald trump was the big target. He supports clinton. When he asks florida to have casino gambling, we said no. Wrong. We said no. Thats the simple fact dont make things up, jeb. Reporter political experts say the other candidates on stage jabbed a bit but took trumps candidacy seriously and mainly stuck to the issues. Russia is a bad actor, but Vladimir Putin is someone we should not talk to because the only way he will stop is to send strength and resolve on the other side. Reporter other issues like immigration and the economy also made huge talking points. We need to take the fingerprint of every person who comes into this country on a visa. And when they overstay their visa, we need to tap them on the shoulder and say you have overstayed your welcome. I think we also have to have two minimum wages, a starter and a sustaining. Reporter still, there were a few moments. Jeb, jeb, i was a businessman, i got along with clinton and everybody. That was my job to get along with people. But the simple fact is excuse me. One second. No. More energy tonight. I like that. Reporter later in the debate the two candidates slapped five. A light moment for rivals who are battling for the same voters. There were more shots taken at Hillary Clinton and even Congressional Republicans on capitol hill than the candidates took at each other during the debate. Edward lawrence, nbc news, washington. This morning on the today show president ial candidate jeb bush shared his thoughts on the debate. And Donald Trumps quip that bush is a low energy candidate. Im not a low Energy Person at all. The difference is the volume of your voice is not a measurement of leadership. Its not a measurement of anything. My energy goes on behalf of the people i care about. Bush also said he is his own person with his own campaign. And he is not trying to piggyback off his father or his brothers terms in the white house. So while republicans were debating in california, Hillary Clinton was in new york making an appearance on jimmy fallon. Do you want to touch mine . Of course. [ laughter ] its real. Theres a popular topic. One point clinton comparing Donald Trumps hair to soft serve ice cream at dairy queen. The former secretary of state telling a latenight host shes having a good time watching trump on the campaign trail. Look, i think hes going to go as long as he wants to go. Yeah. And more power to him. It is one of the great things about this country. Sure. If youre over 35 then youre eligible as an american citizen you can actually run for president. And so hes making the most out of it. Im having a good time watching it. The fallon interview is clintons latest effort to soften her image by giving interviews in entertainment settings. The last two weeks clinton has sat down with Ellen Degeneres and mario lopez. We are watching developments in chile after a massive earthquake struck the country last night. Dozens of strong aftershocks continue to rattle Central Chile today. The 8. 3 magnitude quake hit about 150 miles north of the capital city of santiago. Powerful waves forced into towns causing flooding and power outages. At last ten people are confirmed dead. More than 1 Million People were forced to flee their homes. Take a look at cell phone video taken inside the Grocery Store the moment that quake hit. You see the lights go out and things just start flying off the shelves. It is the largest quake in the country since 2010. Tsunami alerts went into effect along the california coastline as well as hawaii, but there has been no significant damage. To europe now, thousands of migrants and refugees continue to face obstacles as they try to make their way into western europe. Nbcs Richard Engel has the latest from hungary. Reporter for the migrants and refugees, the thousands of them trying to make their way to western europe, each day there seem to be new legal and physical obstacles in hungary. At this courthouse people are being brought accused of trying to come into hungary illegally. They are all being deported and barred from trying to enter europe again. Other people in hungary are being taken to other courthouses and there were processing forms, requests for asylum also being rejected. With the obstacles here people are trying another route. For the last 24 to 48 hours theyve been trying to get into croatia. Only to find out while croatia has been up until now, today not allowing people to board trains in that country. Another unexpected obstacle. So each day the rules seem to be changing. And this is incredibly disheartening and incredibly frustrated the people who are trying to make their way to germany, sweden to be reunited with other family members. There has been some violence along the hungarian border. There could be more violence as these people try and advance and continue to run into obstacles. Richard engel, nbc news, hungary. Thank you, richard. Up next at 11 00, how does antibacterial smoke measure up to regular soap . Research shows its probably a wash coming up. New views from mt. Hamilton as we get a clear view. Temperatures heading up into the weekend. Got a tip for nbc bay areas Investigative Unit . Call 1888996tips or email theunit nbcbayarea. Com. Well, just in, American Airlines says it has resolved the computer problems that had forced a ground stop throughout the nation. There are still delays however particularly in dallas, miami and chicago, which are American Airlines hubs if you are flying today you are probably going to want to call make sure everything is on time. Meanwhile, if youre paying more for antibacterial soap, you could be wasting money. New data says its no more better at reducing bacteria. Researchers tested the active ingredient in 20 different strains of bacteria and found no difference between the antibacterial and plain soaps when it comes to fighting illness. The important part is washing your hands and using hot water. And the scrubbing. Yep. Anything will work. Meteorologist kari hall here to look at the forecast. We are inching towards the weekend. Yes, getting closer. And the weather looks like one that will be really heating up compared to what we had this week. Were starting out now in the 60s and 70s as we head toward the lunchtime hour. And a lot of sun will be breaking out across the bay area. And expect a high of 75 degrees in the east bay. 78 in the peninsula and the south bay up to 80 degrees today. San francisco warming up to 71 degrees and 79 degrees in the north bay. And our wind now shifting direction once again coming in from the north. We havent had much of a wind just yet. Winds coming in from the north and northwest at about 10 to 15 miles an hour today. Nothing really significant there. And we continue to see that there may be a little bit more wave action going on along the coast, so some higher wave there if youre heading to the beach. In livermore going hour by hour at lunchtime its 73 degrees. Mostly sunny, a great afternoon. And with some highs in the low 80s it comes back down into the 60s by 8 00. And we see mostly clear skies throughout the evening and overnight. And i think that will be the case as we get a look at the fog on the bay, the expected cloud cover throughout the afternoon we have mostly clear skies. And then into the night we dont see as much of the clouds rolling back into San Francisco. And so we may start out tomorrow morning with mostly clear skies and then just some minor amounts of fog or some low visibility just along the immediate coast. And then the inland areas staying mostly clear. And as that area of low pressure that brought the rain yesterday and some record amounts of rain for parts of the north bay, were getting ready for some dry weather heading into the weekend. So as High Pressure builds it will cause less of an onshore flow and hot, hazy weather and moderate air quality. It may get a little bit low at times in areas near the valley fire and inland valleys will be warming up into the 90s and 100 degrees. Heres a look at the microclimates and what to expect this weekend. In the peninsula it will be 83 degrees tomorrow. 87 on saturday. And sunday up to 92 degrees. In the trivalley get ready for highs to hit 100 degrees. And the north bay from 86 degrees tomorrow to 94 on saturday. And sunday up to 98 degrees. Weve got a lot of events going on around the bay area, and one of them in san jose the bike Party Happening tomorrow night. Might want to check that out. 73 degrees, just a few clouds and then by 10 00 at night were at 67 degrees. And weve got the list of events, what you can do listed on nbcbayarea. Com. Its thursday starting to make plans for the weekend. Kris and scott. I highly recommend bike party. It is insanely fun. Very family friendly. Great fun. Up next at 11 00. Its a lie. There are other ways of controlling that kind of misbehavior, but people have the right to lie. We continue our coverage of the people standing in front of Grocery Stores asking for money not representing real charities. Well explain lots more. Grocery stores in los gatos for welcome back. We have heard so much from you about our investigation into these fellas in front of Grocery Stores. They were in los gatos for years claiming to collect cash for veterans, but it would appear they were ripping you off. Vicky nygun has been looking into this, but they left. We know they just moved to another Shopping Center. We were first told about those men posing as veterans and we know now theyre not affiliated with the veterans administration. Reporter frustrated viewers reached out to us to say the men are still collecting money for gift a vet. This time a few miles away. They wanted to know why. And so did we. Thats bob back on the job in front of a whole foods store. New location, same old story. Well put security deposits on apartments for a veteran before their benefits kick in. Reporter we first introduced you to bob last month after viewer and air force veteran bill hampshire called. I think its a scam, yes. Reporter posing as veterans, they told our hidden cameras the cash they collect goes to help homeless and disabled vets. Majority of the funds that go into this box will provide outreach money to get the veterans who are living outdoors to the v. A. Reporter not so our investigation found. Yeah. Its down right now. Reporter in fact, the men couldnt provide any evidence they were helping any one but themselves. You said you donate 100 of your cash donations to veterans. Your colleague said he gets to keep 40 of that. Can you talk to us a little more about how youre actually helping veterans . After we exposed gift a vet members lying about working with the county Veterans Court and the office of veterans services, you responded, sending emails about other groups set up in front of bay area stores. You even shared pictures telling us your suspicions about solicitors asking for money for homeless women and children. Turns out a group doesnt have to be a registered charity or nonprofit to stand in front of a store and ask for money. Hi, would you like to donate to a journalist . Would you like to donate to a journalist . In fact, i can stand here and ask for cash for any cause and management cant kick me out. And this plaza, the pruneyard, set the Court Precedent for why this is protected speech. You have a right to be there. And you have a right to your speech. Reporter law professor Margaret Russell has taught for 25 years at santa clara university. She explains the case named for what happened here in 1980. It actually started with a dispute in california at the Pruneyard Shopping Center with High School Students who wanted to gather signatures for a petition. Reporter and today across the street from the pruneyard Hamilton Plaza is another hot spot for solicitors from the homeless to green peace and, yes, bob from gift a vet, who moved here after our story aired. So much speech takes place at Shopping Centers today. Reporter russell explains california is one of a handful of states with very strong free speech protection, even on private property if its a shared space where the public can gather. And even if whats being said is untrue. People have a right to lie. There are other ways of controlling that kind of misbehavior, but people have the right to lie. Reporter so whats the fix . You combat wrong speech or hurtful speech with more speech. The stores have the right to put up signs to say we have nothing to do with these people. And in fact we think theyre frauds. Reporter sus sell says the authorities are more likely to pursue and win cases based not on what someone says but on what they do. Interfering with people, harassing people, going up to people and having some unwanted solicitation. Reporter we tried to ask gift a vet cofounder about why they moved and if they could put us in touch with any of the veterans they say theyve helped. But instead he told us never to contact him again. Meanwhile, a lawyer for the Shopping Center in los gatos emailed us to say we are very grateful that nbc brought this matter to the publics attention and that the center endured over eight years of trespassing and harassing activities by these fraudulent solicitors. But if gift a vet surfaces again, it appears theres only one way for you to make sure they stop collecting money. I never give unless im absolutely sure that the organization is putting this to the purpose they say theyre putting it to. Reporter and when in doubt dont gift. Absolutely. Reporter Los Gatos Police say they are investigating gift a vet. For now the group has not returned to los gatos or campbell after latest calls for comment. Gift a vet also goes by veterans direct and United States vet. None of them is a registered nonprofit. Back to you. All right. If you have a tip for our Investigative Unit, give us a call 888996tips, or send an email to theunit nbcbayarea. Com. Happening today we could learn what Information Army prosecutors have on officer bowe bergdahl. Released last year in exchange for five taliban prisoners. Bergdahl has been charged with desertion, one of the most serious charges ever brought against a soldier. If convicted he could serve five years in prison and receive a dishonorable discharge. Things could get a lot worse for bill cosby today. Several women have accused the comedian of sexually assaulting them. Well tell their stories in a primetime special called, cosby the women speak. It will feature interviews from some of the dozens of women who say they were abused by the comedian. The onehour special airs tonight on a e. Hope is dwindling as a search for a boy swept away in those massive flash floods enters its fourth day in utah. 6yearold t 6yearold tyson black was one. He is the last person still missing. 12 people have been confirmed dead after a wall of water hit both of those vehicles and washed them away. Flash flooding also killed at least four people in nearby Zion National park. The woman who survived being shot during a news interview on live tv is sharing her story. Vicky gardner spoke on the today show. She was hurt in a shooting last month that claimed the lives of a news reporter, alison parker, and cameraman adam ward. The disgruntled former employee was the shooter. Gardner says she curled up and played dead while that shooter kept going. The very best thing was just to drop. Just to pretend as though i had been hit and just drop and go into fetal position, of which of course it was somewhat quiet, he did whatever it was he did that i couldnt see because of my position, and then he came back just i guess to be sure and shot me in the back. Gardner lost her right kidney and a portion of her colon but is expected to make a full recovery. The San FranciscoMunicipal Transportation Agency says it will need nearly a billion dollars a year. According to the agencys Capital Improvement plan it will take 21 billion to keep muni and bike lanes. Help could come soon both at the state and federal levels. San francisco voters approved a 500 million bond for the sf mta last november. The fouryear anniversary of occupy wall Street Movement and people in the bay area are remembering it with a rally. You might remember the movement started in new york citys financial district back in 2011. Protesters spoke out against social and economic inequality. This afternoon people are set to gather on the steps of San Francisco city hall starting at 12 30. Guest speakers will talk about closing the inequality gap for both income and housing. A man is contracted the west nile virus in marin county. The countys first human case this year. The 57yearold recovering at home this morning. Its not clear where he contracted the virus. West nile is transmitted to humans from mosquitos. People ages 50 and older do have a higher chance of getting sick. Meantime, the contra costa mosquito and Vector Control district will be out fogging for mosquitos in oakley tonight. Officials say no special precautions need to be taken during that fogging. We will be right back. No harm in eating wheat or dairy. Thats the word from new reasearch on the behavof well, turns out there is no harm in eating wheat or dairy for children with autism. That is the word from new research on the behavior of children with autism. The study included 14 kids who remained on a gluten and milkfree diet for nearly eight months. They were given wheat, dairy or a placebo once a week. That research showed no differences in symptoms, sleep patterns or bowl movements. Experts say most dietary restrictions are not harmful for autistic children but still parents should consult with their own doctors to be sure. Well, the duchess of cambridge is returning to the public eye after giving birth to Princess Charlotte in may. Yeah, Kate Middleton back making public appearances after spending the summer with her two babies away from the public eye. She kicked off her itinerary with a visit to the charity that helps young people with Mental Health issues. Today she and her husband Prince William are expected to attend several events at the rugby world cup, but perhaps you were distracted by her bangs like i was. I know. Its such a big deal. Because she always looks so classically beautifully the same. All girls are going maybe i should, i dont know. If youre watching then youre lost right now too. If youre a girl you know what im talking about. Thanks so much for joining us. Our next newscast is coming up tonight at 5 00. And of course you can get the latest information all day at nbcbayarea. Com where we are updating the valley fire. Have a wonderful day and well see you tomorrow. 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