David gregory. Lets show you a live shot of Emory University hospital in atlanta where kent brantley, walked into the hospital of his own accord with the assistance of another medical worker. He arrived on a specifically equipped plane after contracting the deadly disease while working in liberia. President obama weighed in on friday saying the u. S. Is taking the outbreak of the disease, quote, very seriously. Our chief medical editor dr. Nancy snyderman has the very latest on the crisis and how the u. S. Government plans to respond. Good morning. Good morning. The cdc is now issuing an order for 50 people, disease detectives if you will to be deployed to west africa to try to start to get this epidemic, this outbreak of ebola under control. But in the meantime, they were also at the epicenter of an extraordinary operation. That required the coordination of the state department, cdc, white house, fbi, the doctors and nurses at emory and even patients on the ground. People on the ground, if you will to get dr. Brantley safely from liberia to the United States and admitted to the hospital. It was a military operation that took every precaution. Well, the disease continues to ravage parts of west africa, the death toll now over 700 and climbing, chances of an Ebola Outbreak in the United States are slim. But the government says its ready. Here are the three main reasons why. Number one, government on alert. Only the cdc can confirm ebola cases in the United States. And they have 20 quarantine stations at all major points of entry to the country staffed with medical and Public Health officers. If a traveler is sick on a flight, that person would be flagged by the flight crew, isolated and passengers and crew may be detained to get medical attention upon landing. If necessary, those with the disease can be denied entry into the United States. Number two, our modern Health Care System. A person cant get ebola without direct contact with bodily fluids of someone who already has the disease. Basic hygiene at our Emergency Rooms should prevent the virus from spreading. Number three, command and control. Hospitals in west africa have almost become amplification centers for the disease. Meaning unmodern facilities and lack of medical supplies can increase rather than halt the diseases spread. The government says there are strong systems in place to find people who are sick, isolate them, and give treatment. Having a command and control center gives experts a place to centralize Decision Making and take quick action. The real issue right now is to prevent any further kidney or liver damage, to limit any bleeding. And that is the best way to save dr. Brantleys life. No news yet on an update from emory. We expect that later today. All right. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Earlier, i spoke with dr. Tom freeden, director of centers of Disease Control. I asked him about the outlook at this point. Well, its encouraging. He seems to be improved. Ebola can be deadly. But in people who are healthy, the case fatality rate may be lower than the ones were usually quoting. Because people like this doctor are much healthier going in than the people still getting ebola in africa. Right. And he was working in western africa in liberia. When you look at some of the precautions that are taken, especially outfitted for him to be contained. The medical units onsite from the airport to his transfer to emory and a containment unit at emory. Is this an unacceptable risk to bring somebody we bow la back. Well, first off, we have to say that he was coming home. And the organization that sent him to africa made the decision to bring him home. Hes an american citizen. And what our role is in Public Health is to make sure if an american is coming home with an Infectious Disease, we protect others so they dont spread it. The head of the wofrld Health Organization has said in the last couple of days the following from dr. Margaret chan, this outbreak is moving faster than our efforts to control it. If the situation continues to deterioration, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe disruption and high risk spread to other countries. What is the u. S. Government doing to respond to that need to respond to the potential for its spread . It is a very serious condition. And it is currently out of control in africa with a high risk of spreading further in africa. What were doing now at cdc is surging our response. Were going to put at least 50 health Public Health experts in the three countries in the next 30 days. Because actually, we do know how to stop ebola. Its oldfashioned plain and simple Public Health. Find the patients, make sure they get treated, find their contacts, track them, educate people, do Infection Control in hospitals. You do those things, but you have to do them really well, and ebola goes away. People who are looking at the events of the last couple of days are concerned even as the center for Disease Control is mishandling biochemicals and other agents and diseases at your own labs, have to be wondering about the ability of our Health Care System, the u. S. Government, to be able to prevent a spread here particularly with those affected workers, two in total, hole be back in the United States. What can you say to deal with that concern . I certainly understand that occurs at cdc. We have lapses in our laboratories. Fortunately no one was hurt. Nothing was released into the laboratory environment. However or out of the laboratory and into the environment. Whats so important is if there are patients with possible ebola or confirmed ebola in hospitals, that doctors and the entire Health Care Team are super careful. They have protocols in place and make sure every one of those protocols is followed. Ebola is really a formidable enemy. Your plan and your execution has to be meticulous to avoid its spread. If you dont do that, you can have spread to workers in the Health Care System or family members. That can happen. You can have some secondary cases if youre not really, really careful. Already. Dr. Frieden, well certainly send our best wishes to dr. Kent brantly and monitor his progress. Thanks so much for your time this morning. Thank you very much. Im joined now by dr. Toby cosgrove, chief executive officer and president of the renowned cleveland clinic. Doctor cosgrove, good to have you here. I wanted additional perspective from the hospital sector in the United States. First of all, take me inside what the containment unit is like when you have someone like dr. Brantly, how hes protected, the workers are protected and the wider public are protected with these efforts. We have to understand how disease spreads. This is spread differently. This is spread by direct contact or bodily fluid contact. Inside these containment areas theres negative pressure. So any air would go into rather than coming out of that facility. They are protected workers are protected by complete covering of their face and all of their body and they are isolated. So this is much like any other Infectious Disease we deal with. Interestingly, this is not as highly contagious as many other diseases. For example, many more people in the United States die from influenza. That requires hand washing, isolation to prevent that. We must remember were in a global world. Is it irrational to say oh, my goodness, the wonderful people helping to stop the spread of ebola in africa, they are americans but shouldnt be allowed to come back to the United States because the rick is too high. You have to understand weve gone to a globalized world now. Just because its in africa doesnt mean it doesnt affect the entire world. Transportation, this is something we must learn to deal w i think the cdc has done a wonderful job being able to isolate these patients, having centers that look for people coming into the United States with disease. I think they have done a super job. A lot of people think about a visit to the hospital, which is unpleasant. They worry about getting sicker than what they came in for being at the hospital. When you have the introduction of a virus like this, is that a compounded fear and is it real . I dont think the fear is real, first of all, because we understand we have the disease. We isolate it, take tremendous precautions with it. I dont think that represents an additional risk. The infections that occur in the hospital are generally important in terms of people not washing their hands and spreading diseases, bacterial diseases that way. Not so much diseases, viral diseases like this. No known cure for the ebola virus. What do you look for for dr. Brantly and others who have contracted this disease and who are being cared for now. Were looking for supportive care. You may have renal function failure. You may have failure of liver. You may have respiratory failure. All these can be supportive. Thats the real care these patients get. Better in the United States than any place else in the world. And as dr. Frieden was saying, younger, healthier, better chance of survival that dr. Brantly was walking of his own volition. I think its a terrific sign. The incubation period is between eight and 21 days. People spread the disease most when they are sick, which is a good thing. It looks to me like he is now either in the recovery phase or has been able to handled it. If you had been over in the area, in western africa in an outbreak area, when would you show symptoms . Somewhere eight to ten, 21day period. People coming back to the United States having temperature measured every day and quarantined until that 21 days passed. Before i let you go, theres a Real Health Threat in your neck of the woods, cleveland and toledo. Algae bloom in lake erie making Drinking Water there toxic. How concerned are you about cleveland and what are you doing to fix it . Were concerned about water supply across lake erie and United States. The runoff from fertilizers from the farms has caused the algae to bloom in the lakes. That has gotten worse and worse each year as weve gone along. Its now reached critical proportions in the western portion of lake erie. Obviously cleveland is right down the lake from that and were concerned as well. All right. Dr. Cosgrove, great to have you here on the program. Thanks for your time. Were going to take a break and talk about overseas. The brutal fight between israel and hamas. No end in sight as president obama defends the effort of secretary of state john kerry. Should be a bunch of complaints, secondguessing of, well, it hasnt happened yet, nitpicking before hes had a chance to complete his efforts. The question this morning, is there any hope of a negotiated solution to the crisis . I will ask diplomats from opposing sides of this conflict coming up next. Meet the press is brough coming up next. Meet the press is brough to you by bo [ male announcer ] its one of the most Amazing Things we build and it doesnt even fly. We build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrows innovators. We build it raising roofs, preserving habitats and serving americas veterans. Every day, thousands of boeing volunteers help make their communities the best they can be. Building Something Better for all of us. Were back with a discussion about the war in the middle east. The conflict between hamas and gaza, ceasefire efforts so far unsuccessful, can a solution be found any time soon. More israeli shelling killed 30 people today. The death toll in gaza now stands at more than 1700 people. Israel is withdrawing and redeploying some troops, but Prime Minister netanyahu says he will keep up the pressure on hamas even after destroying hamas network of tunnels into israel. Im joined now by the permanent observer of palestine to the United Nations. Ambassador, welcome. Thank you for having me. First of all, on that point about the redeployment and withdrawal of israeli troops, do you see some opening here to break this impasse, to get to a more durable ceasefire . We hope the israeli army would withdraw completely from the gaza strip. We have a tragic humanitarian problem in gaza, which you have indicated more than 1700 palestinians, most of them civilians, 80 or more, and more than 9,000 have been injured. 80 of them, according to you and statistics have been injured. What we need now is to stop this fighting, to address the strategic humanitarian situation in the gaza strip. Let me stop you on that point. Your anger at israel certainly understandable. The loss of civilians horrific. There was an agreement about that. Im wondering whether youre outraged by the conduct of hamas. Starting the conflict firing rockets, building tunnels to kill and kidnap israelis, being more than willing to sacrifice palestinian lives by imbedding them into their own kind of arsenal and using them, as israel contends, as human shields. Do you have a level of outrage to hamas itself. First of all, this concept of using Palestinian Civilians as human shields is not right. It is not correct. It is not even, you know, moral. Instead of why dont you bring on the show and let the american public, including congress to listen. For example, doctors without borders. Hold on a second. Hold on. My question stands. Im asking whether youre outraged at the conduct of hamas. I am outraged they fired rock, they built tunnels for the purpose of killing and kidnapping israelis and they do exploit the Palestinian Civilians when they know they are going to be in danger from where they are firing the rockets and so forth. Do you have any outrage towards hamas. I am outraged as the killing of innocent civilians by any party from any side. Today, another school of honorable United Nations was hit in russia. At least 10 civilians were killed and possibly 100 injured. These things need to be stopped. My president , president abbas, is doing more than that. He dispatched yesterday a delegation composed of all palestinian political groups to begin the negotiation with israel through the egyptian to have the ceasefire extended more than three days, to have a sustainable ceasefire and begin the discussion on the root causes ambassador, im trying we are waiting for the israeli side to come fair enough. Fair enough. The rope im pressing this point is not to challenge you about how horrific the loss of civilians are. As a more moderate palestinian figure, which is what you are, representative Palestinian Authority, theres certainly no love lost between Palestinian Authority and hamas, im wondering what level of culpability you believe hamas has for the advancement of the palestinian people. Not just in this conflict but more generally. I believe if we allow for peace to take place, negotiation to take place, under the leadership of Mahmoud Abbas, who is bringing all political elements in the palestinian side, including hamas you said his wing, International Consensus government. If we empower this government, we will be able to move gradually from the situation of confrontation and fighting into the situation of this tragedy and blocking it against our people in gaza, giving the people there hope. 50 of the population in gaza are under 18. If you put them in a continuous situation of fighting and resentment and hate, this is an excellent atmosphere for radicalism. But if you give them hope. You open the borders, let them go to schools, let them get good jobs, let them look for moderation, then well succeed in allowing all those who want to have peace between us and israelis to have the upper hand. A lot of people listening would find that compelling, the Palestinian Authority could provide better leadership than hamas. I want to try more on this. Do you think hamas is helping or hurting palestinians right now . Hamas is part of the palestinian political configuration. The question is how to deal with that. The first step is the National Consensus government. Israel is trying to destroy this government. To destroy this government is pushing us back and allowing hamas to have support in the gaza strip. The alternative is empower the National Consensus government, allow the government of president abbas to show the people in the gaza strip that it succeeded in having peace, stopping the fighting, addressing the wounds of our people in gaza, then in lifting the siege in gaza, giving people hope. Let the 1. 8 Million People in gaza see that this National Consensus government is improving their lives, then that would be strengthening president Mahmoud Abbas and allowing us to have more strength in the gaza strip and giving our people an alternative instead of the continuation of fighting, an alternative in that direction of peace. Of course we have to put an end to the occupation so that the independent state of palestine to become independent and actualize the dream of twostate solution. All right, ambassador, thank you very much. Youre welcome. Thank you. Polls do show the majority of americans are sympathetic toward israel but yesterday thousands of people protested in support of the palestinians near the white house. The harrowing pictures of palestinian suffering being beamed out of gaza has provoked an outcry and prompted protests across the world. Our chief Foreign Affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell assesses whether israel may achieve military victory but lose the battle of wider world opinion. Reporter as the violence continues, with civilians trapped in the middle, israels strategy of selfdefense is becoming less defensible in world opinion. In berlin pro palestinian marches. In kosovo free gaza signs. Demonstrators against israel covering their hands in red paint. This weeks cover of the economist a warning israel could be winning the battle, losing the war, as images of palestinian suffering are shown around the world, a very real problem for Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. I think youd have to reach the conclusion that no set of talking points, however compelling they are from israels point of view, can somehow stand up and match up to those pictures, which is why most of the International Community is reacting quite negatively, to say the least, to whats going on in gaza. Here in the u. S. , israel still enjoys strong support. Our new polling shows 43 of americans sympathize with the israelis in the current conflict, 14 with the palestinians, 43 are unsure. But the generational divide is striking. Among americans under 45, support for israel dropped to 33 . Among 18 to 29 years old, its only 27 . The longer this drags on, israels global risk slipping further as president obama cautioned friday. Part of the reason why weve been pushing so hard for a ceasefire is precisely because its hard to reconcile israels legitimate need to defend itself with our concern with those civilians. Right now israelis overwhelmingly support the push into gaza to eliminate tunnels but they dont want a permanent occupation. The casualties that would be required to go thousands house and secure gaza would be something no israelis want. I think Prime Minister netanyahu knows that. The most surprising difference most arab leaders are rooting for israel to eliminate the threat, which they see as a threat to them as well. Andrea mitchell, nbc warrant. Nbc news washington. Im joined by the israeli ambassador. Ambassador, welcome. Good to have you here. First the news, is the ground operation in gaza about to end . Were finishing up decommissioning the the tunnels. Weve uncovered about three dozen tunnels. Destroying, i guess that he means. Yes. Destroyed tunnel used to burrow underneath, come out on the other side, kidnap people. Once weve uncovered these, were obviously going to destroy them. We hope that job will be completed in a matter of hours not days. Ground troops will come out. Were going to redeploy our forces. Meaning they will be taken out of gaza. Not necessarily. Well redeploy to a position where israel can do what it has to do to protect the security of our people. What is the state of gaza being demilitarized, having the capacity for hamas to fire off rockets. Their capacity has been significantly degraded because weve hit a lot of their missile batteries, a lot of their rocket warehouses. They have also fired over 3,000 rockets at our country. They started this operation with over 10,000 rockets, there are probably less than half at this point. The key, david, is to prevent them from rearming in the future. This the third time weve had to have a conflict. First in 2002, second in 2012. Now were in 2014, a year and a half after pillar of defense. What we dont want to see is us simply leaving and allowing hamas to use the time to rearm thousands of rockets, more tunnel. We have to make sure we have an effective mechanism to prevent hamas from rearming and refueling its war mission. Ambassador mansour just here saying, look, essentially israel is giving space to hamas because the population is desperate. It is being hit and attacked, civilians killed. While he would not express outrage towards hamas for starting all this, its still a reality that hamas is isolated, disliked by most of the arab world and yet this campaign la has given them newfound Political Energy and support. I dont think so. I think they are more isolated. Within gaza . They are casting off the government. Five palestinians were executed a few days ago. I dont know if you know that. They tried to protest against hamas of its not a free society in gaza. You cant come out and say youre against hamas, they shoot you. Very telling an official would not actually defend hamas. His problem is he has to go back to ramallah, president abbas is in an alliance. Lets remember what hamas is. This is like al qaeda, a terror organization, committed to our destruction. This an organization whose officials were celebrating on 9 11 when thousands of americans were killed, whose Prime Minister right now underneath in some tunnel in gaza, he actually condemned the United States for killing osama bin laden. Thats who were dealing with. What is the solution here . You dont have a delegation going to egypt to engage in talks. Whats the point . Is there really a military solution to this . If you look at Andrea Mitchell and the larger question, well acquainted as i am obviously with israels arguments about security, are you paying a price here that ultimately endangers israels security in the future, enflames not Just International opinion against israel but certainly within gaza and the arab world to a point where youre losing the larger war even if you achieve some military objectives right now . No, i dont think so. You have to fight terror. You cant embrace terrorists. Thats unfortunately what president abbas has done. Take the case of iraq. Do you think the solution of iraq is to have Iraqi Government include isis as part of the government because thats what the Palestinian Government just did. They did it two months ago. We were very much opposed to it and upset when International Community said, hey, this is a good thing for peace. Its a terrible thing for peace. The road for peace goes over hamas not through hamas. Is there a military solution to hamas problem . Yes. Israel right now is working hard to degrade their capability. Degrade. Can you eliminate . You can. There is a cost. Is israel willing to pay it. Israel has many threats. This is not a threat israel faces. We live in a very unstable region. If you want Palestinian Authority, abbas, to have a greater political say what happens in gaza, how do you do that, militarily. Hamas is the one who threw them out. The palestinian official who sat here forgot to mention in 2007 there was a coup in gaza. Palestinian officials were thrown out over the tops of buildings, they shot palestinian officials. Now unfortunately they are in an alliance with terror organization, i hope not genocide. Hamas calls for murders of jews worldwide. I hope after this round of fighting is over, that president abbas will abandon the pact he made to hamas and go back to peace negotiations. The number of civilian deaths by israel in gaza unacceptable to israel . Well, every civilian death is unacceptable to israel. We have an enemy that fires indiscriminately but hides by their own civilians, using hospitals, schools, mosques. They want civilian deaths. Hamas doesnt care about the civilian population in gaza. We left gaza in 2005. We with drew all of our settlers, all of our military and said, hey, make a Better Future for gaza. People were hoping at the time they were going to make a singapore of gaza, middle east, instead they built an iran in the middle east. Used all this concrete to build a subterranean force in gaza, iron not to build schools but rockets to fire at israel. Thank you very much nor well be monitoring the situation. When we come back here well talk politics. A big week here, all this impeachment talk. Why do some democrats think its helping the party. Immigration fiasco, what impact of Congress Getting nothing done will have on republicans and this issue. Our roundtable will be here to discuss a pretty dramatic week in politics. E on e on if energy could come from anything . Or if power could go anywhere . Or if light could seek out the dark . What would happen if that happens . Anything. Frotheres no reasonn average 17 we cant manufacture in shuthe United States. Here at timbuk2, we make more than 70,000 custom bags a year, right here in san francisco. 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Our political director chuck todd has some exclusive new poll numbers. More bad news for a Congress Already blistered by a bad reputation. New polling from nbc news, wall street journal, that were revealing exclusively today three out of four voters agree that congress hasnt done much this year. This includes 50 who say they have been very unproductive. Guess what, they are right. This congress with republicans in charge of the house and democrats in charge of the senate is on track to be the least productive in history. 142 bills passed into law so far. Thats fewer than even the last congress at this same point, and they had set a record for inaction themselves. Its a lot less productive than the most famous do Nothing Congress of all time, the one harry truman ran against in 1948. The country cant afford another republican congress. That do Nothing Congress actually pushed through more than 900 bills into law. So what does it mean for the midterms this year . Americans are divided who should control congress. Our polling shows in both the house and the senate theres a virtual tie over which party they want in charge, with Republicans Holding a slight edge. But democrats are starting to feel like they have something to run on or run against thanks to House Republicans and their own struggles to pass small bills, like one to deal with the emergency at the border. Thats not a disagreement between me and the House Republicans, thats a disagreement between the House Republicans and the House Republicans. Reporter now a sprint in november with both parties pointing the finger at each other for dysfunction which on itself was on full display with house voted to impeach the president , senators not showing up to do their job, an ambassador to russia. The house leaving unable to address a slew of major issues. Roundtable here carolyn ryan Washington Bureau chief, editor of times. Also republican strategist advised senior figures like mitt romney and jeb bush. A new face to the program, republican pollster, cofinder of Echelon Research and democratic congressman keith ellis of minnesota. Welcome. Good to have you here. Politics is easier to figure out than the middle east in its way. The republicans will come back in the fall and ask america to allow them to govern. Are they in a position to govern . I think we are and i think well do well at the elections. The question is were not going to win enough in the elections to govern. Well still have a democrat in the white house. The next two years for the Republican Party, assuming we have a senate which we have a good but not certain chance to will be a test. Do we use the party to do something and get things done or continue to pound away in a campaign mentality . What is the mentality, wall street lashing fellow republicans for basically botching this immigration debate by giving the president something of a victory and being so hopelessly divided within itself. Ted cruz lobbying for house members to oppose the speakers bill. I think what we have created is a timid and often craven political culture in washington. I think the one thing we havent captured is the degree to which money is driving that. I think that republicans are fearful are primary opponents, so they dont want to move toward the middle. If they move toward the extreme, those primary opponents can access big money. You probably saw our story. Theres going to be 2 billion in outside spending on the congressional elections. So they are changing the culture and turning off the voters and sort of driving a divide between members of congress and the people they serve. How do you you cant feel good about the way this week ended. No, i dont feel good about it at all. Mindful 3. 5 Million People have not had unemployed extended. People are in bad shape. We havent done anything about the minimum wage. This mess with the immigration, were just not moving forward on the things people need to cooperate on. But the president i think is trying. He just this week signed an executive order to help workers get all of the money they earned by coming down on companies that do wage stuff federal contract be. Earlier this year raised the minimum wage for people who work for federal contractors. The president is going out of his way to be productive. I wish we could get action in the house. Were probably going to see the president take action on immigration. What that means, well see. He has some power to create a Legal Framework or path for some of the undocumented children coming across, those who are in the process or those who may be here. Republicans certainly arent going to like that. No, they are not. What weve actually seen, even folks very frustrated with congress, they dont necessarily mean thats time for the president to become the king. Only about 22 of americans think they dont think the president has taken enough executive action in the face of a congress who hasnt accomplished much while 45 said they think the president has gone too far with executive action. On the border issue, republicans actually gained a little advantage when you ask voters which party do they trust more on this issue. To the extent the president takes action beyond the scope of what his office allows, i dont think this is a bad thing for republicans politically. This is one of these great conundrums. Shortterm, this is going to help us win races were going to win anyway. Longterm, looking at 2016 when the senate is bad not good for republicans, we like to hold any majority we win and the president ial race is a headwind demographically than ever, were playing with nitroglycerin. This is dangerous stuff. Not just in washington but around the world, the president spoke with reporters on friday. He was asked by bill plante at cbs news about his efforts to try to use influence. He was asked whether america has lost its influence, whether hes lost his influence. Here is a bit of that back and forth. People have forgotten that america as the most powerful country on earth still does not control everything around the world. Do you think you could have done more . On which one . On any of them . Well, look, you know, i think, bill that the nature of being president is that youre always asking yourself what more can you do. Some would see that and say this is the reality of america in the world today, or maybe its the reality of president obamas leadership that he doesnt have a big play here to make. Exactly. There are two points here, right . Every American Election is a reaction to the last administration. So we elect barack obama to end the wars that george bush started and that were very unpopular. So he was with the American People there. But i think the cumulative unease about obamas leadership domestically and internationally kind of creates a sort of vagueness in a sense that hes uncertain about how and when to assert American Interest abroad. I think that has created sort of a general uncertainty about what our mission is. Hes not good at articulating. Can and should america shape global events right now . Yes. I think its important to understand the world of barack obama is radically different from the world of a generation ago when you had soviet union, United States, the world was kind of simple that way. Now you have nonstate actors, failed states, a complex border to play on. I think the president is trying to do the best he can. In fact using diplomacy, development, sometimes kinetic power to try to manage a very unstable environment. Management is different than leadership. Theres a sense things are getting worse, not better, despite that approach. The president s job approval numbers on Foreign Policy has been very bad over the last year. People dont think hes able to lead. They are looking around the world and seeing not just nonstate actors, the rise of terrorism but we actually are back in a place where were seeing a potential of a second cold war. Makes people uneasy. Lost economic competitiveness, america longterm not necessarily the biggest economic player on the block, all together making the world is more complicated. I agree with my friend keith on that. Challenging jimmy carter isnt the answer. If we dont control the world we influence it more than anybody. Foreign actors good and bad receive no strategy, our friends get worried because were the biggest horse in their calculation and enemies encouraged, which creates more disorder. The biggest thing with the administration their passivity and lack of clear path. We kind of had deflation in the currency of American Power influence and will power, and were paying the price for it. I called nine against to one for when this whole syrian isis came up. The president , i think, was trying to stop assad because he will not stop until he is stop. Yet my constituents, i guarantee you, were not in favor of us doing anything in syria. Its not just the policy outcomes. It was the herky jerky nature of how it unfolded. Its a herky jerky environment. Youre not suggesting the calls under the circumstances influence your leadership. You have to make the decision you have to listen to what your constituents want. I was supporting the president because i believe assad is a real problem. This line, you cannot cross this line because of Core National security interests. You pull back against it. He ended up getting weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons, cleaned out of that country. So i think the president did take good action. The president took the action he was able to take, but you cannot just leave without a good example of this. John kerry, i give him an a plus for burning up jet fuel flying around the world. When youre trying to make deals with the egyptians who have very little influence with hamas and trade space and intention in the space with israel. When israelis know the stakes now, were going to be powerful putting things back together. Were not powerful forcing a ceasefire neither side wants. Mike, the people want i know what the people want. For john kerry to run around can i ask you on that point you supported iron dome but you just voted against more money for it. Why . Because a ceasefire is what we should prioritize now. A ceasefire protects civilians on both sides. It doesnt just say were only concerned about people on one side. Ive stood with those people talking about those rockets, in discriminate rocket fire and ive also been to gaza three times since 2009. I can tell you, those people are absolutely devastated. We need a ceasefire now. Let me get a break in here. Well come back and talk more in just a moment. Coming up here, tempers flair in congress as you might imagine. What prompted House Minority leader nancy pelosi to cross the house floor to confront republican member of congress. They had a debate about a policy issue that got pretty heated. Find out next. We never thought wed be farming wind out here. Its not just building jobs here, its helping our community. Siemens location here has just received a major order of wind turbines. It puts a huge smile on my face. Cause im like, this is what we do. the fact that iowa is leading the way in wind energy, im so proud, like, its just amazing. Thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. And thank you for your bravery. Thank you colonel. Thank you daddy. 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There were votes in the house to sue president obama, yet neither house or senate could pass a bill on immigration that could deal with the border crisis at the moment. Does this undermine the ability for republicans to say vote for us in the fall, we should control the senate and the house and really be a governing party . Well, david, the house did pass a Border Security bill before they went out. The senate has not. You mentioned earlier peoples frustration. I can understand that. Wages are flat, unemployment is high. Everything from gas to food to Health Care Costs more for the American People. You cant address that situation if you dont vote. The United States senate we went an entire year passed less than one vote on republican amendment per month. In the Harry Reid Senate thats become the norma factory for show boats. Votes are made more interested in winning elections than they are for winning jobs for the American People. Thats got to change. The senate has to function again. It is dysfunctional and thats whats frustrating to the American People. Thanks for the correction. The house did, in fact, pass something that doesnt look like the president will support it or get through the senate. Senator menendez if the president on immigration wants to use executive power to deal with the problem, is that in excess of his authority . Congress has spoken and said functional or not were not going to deal with any aspect of immigration. Why shouldnt the president stand pat until they could get everybody on board. I wouldnt say congress spoke. Senate spoke with overwhelmingly bipartisan, talk about gridlock, 68 votes, republicans and democrats, gang of eight, which i was part of, put together a broad bipartisan comprehensive Immigration Reform to fix our m immigration system. That stalled in the house of representatives and they havent permitted one vote on it, an up or down or their version of Immigration Reform. In light of that, seems to me the president , which my republican friends call upon to act in this case is, i hope, will act, because the system as it exists today is broken. To the extent i believe the white house and department of Homeland Security a legal memorandum that outlines the powers they dov i hope they will use those powers to try to get some elements of the system under order. Senator, i want to speak with you on another big issue we talked about this morning, senator menendez about whats happening in israel and gaza. There appears to be a redeployment as you heard the ambassador say a few moments ago. How would you define victory here for the israelis . Well, for the israelis obviously they need peace and security. And they will define it for themselves in terms of what is their national security. Look, this is the loss of any loss islamentable. The loss of palestinian lives islamentable. When you have a terrorist organization that hides behind women and children and puts their weapons stockpiles in mosques and schools and fires from civilian targets, it is an untenable situation for the israelis. When you have tunnels that pop up in your home country, and which people come out shooting and wearing suicide bombs, it speaks volumes of the adversary israel has. So thats why you see broad bipartisan support in the senate on supporting the state of israel. Even friends, senator thune, have to worry about the International Opinion against israel, actions taken by israel that have contributed to so many civilian deaths in gaza that perhaps undermine israels longterm security. As a friend of israel, do you fear for israel . Well, thats one of the things, david, as bob mentioned that there is bipartisan support for in congress. We were able to get house and senate moved legislation to provide funding for iron dome. I think everybody realizes it has to be able to protect its citizens. I think this operation hopefully will conclude quickly once they destroy tunnels and rocket launchers coming into israeli communities, this thing will get, i think, over with. Hopefully we can get to a place where were actually discussing a solution, longterm solution to the situation there in that region of the world. Weve got to defend and support israels right to defend its own citizens from this constant hammering rocket attacks, these tunnels bored into their country. No country is going to be able to sustain that. Weve got to support israel until they get this job done. Senator thune, final question for you. This is about immigration. On this program senator graham has said its a political death sentence for the Republican Party im parafundraising but thats his sentiment if they dont coalesce around Immigration Reform. Do you agree with that . We do. We have to deal with the immediate crisis right now. What the house bill did, it addresses the flow, stopping the flow. Most persons realize its a reasonable condition we cant sustain whats happening at the border right now. We have a crisis to be dealt w we have to deal with the issue of immigration. I think its important for republicans and democrats to come together behind a plan. As marco rubio said, you cant fix Legal Immigration until you fix ilLegal Immigration. That means Border Security. That means building strategic fence and having an E Verify Program and entry, exit program that ensures our borders are secure. Were not going to have the trust and confidence of the American People that we can address this on the legal side if we dont fix ilLegal Immigration. Thats exactly what we did, david, when 68 members of the senate im not sure if senator thune voted, 68, republicans and democrats allot send brought, pathway to legalization, economics, Even Economic bunl office said would create jobs, lower deficit and help national economy. Republicans in the house just cant seem to get there. Im going to leave it there. Cant seem to get there. Im going to leave it there. My thanks 36 of all teachers in the u. S. Have been teaching for more than my thanks 20 years. What does that mean . Do the math. We need more teachers to lead future generations. The more you know. Our final moment here, the weeks big question. What issues should congress focus on when it gets back from the august recess. My question is how do republicans win the fall . What do you think they are leaving going home to think about . I think they are going home to visit these town hall meetings. They are going to get a lot of questions about the border issue. They are going to get a lot of questions about jobs and the economy. It remains number one issue. House members can say they have voted on a number of bills they sent to senate that died there but i think the economy is the number one issue. Thank you very much. You can find our big question and weigh in on the debate on good morning. Coming up on early today terrible trouble in toledo where the water is still not safe to drink. From the west coast, californias battling torrential rains and mudslides in some areas, while in other parts of the state fire crews continue to battle 14 wildfires. Promising updates for the american ebola patient and some controversial comments from donald trump on the whole matter. Plus, rfk junior ties the knot with a hollywood starlet. A million bucks in loot stolen from a texassize closet. The guardians ruled at the box office. Monday, august 4th, 2014. Early today starts right now. Good morning