Transcripts For KNTV Dateline NBC 20140201

I did not do this reporter the evidence, a palm print, a sweatshirt, a tshirt with drops of blood. Would it convict him or clear him . I have tried a lot of cases. I have never tried anything like this. Reporter it was a mystery so tangled, there would be not one, not two, but three trials. Which jury would get it right . Its like this twilight zone. Lies become truth and the truth becomes lies. You have lied to the police about this case . Yes. Reporter was the real killer still out there . We knew this was probably the key to solving this. Reporter im lester holt and this is dateline with mystery on lockhart road. Narrator such an awful crime. The wife, the little boy and girl. Shot at point blank range. I was dumbfounded, i was shocked at what i saw. Narrator the husband had an alibi. Could he have slipped away for say 10 minutes . He could have done anything. Narrator 13 years, appeals, trials, reversals and changing stories. The big picture here is that it sounds like a crock. It doesnt pass the sniff test. Theres a lot of things about this case that doesnt make sense. Narrator its been a long pursuit of justice. I kind of adopt this saying, when you enter into the courtroom, lies become truth and the truth becomes lies. Narrator but there is another side, another family. One which sees a terrible miscarriage of justice. I wonder if everybody got three trials, how many people, guilty people would be out walking the streets. Mommy, theres a present for you. Okay. Narrator but theres one indisputable truth, kim, jill and bradley camm were nothing more than innocence lost that night. What do you miss the most . Every day, anyone who says time heals, has never lost a child. I can tell you that time doesnt heal anything, the pain becomes a part of you. Narrator time. Turn the clock back to the year 2000, a thursday after work. The place, a church rec center in georgetown, indiana. A pickup basketball came was under way. Just you guys typically getting together . Narrator david camm, a 36yearold manager at a waterproofing business was a regular. This is a religion . Yes, we play a little bit of basketball in indiana. Narrator that night after the game wrapped up, david headed home. He and his wife kim had two children, brad a 7yearold, and jill, a spit fire two years younger. On this night, he was late and he knew kim wouldnt be happy about that. They had to do their homework before bed and i knew she was going to be upset because im not there to help. Narrator he clicked the garage door opener, a nightmare awaited him. The garage door lifted up just above my truck, and thats when i saw kim. She was down on the garage floor . At first i thought it was just jill laying there. I didnt realize it was kim until i got out of my truck a and ran into the garage and thats when i saw that it was kim. How do you take this . Its too much to absorb. Kim was in a long pool of blood running from her head. The doors to her bronco were open. When do you look into the vehicle . I dont remember how long it was, but after checking on kim, being assured in my mind that she was gone, i just suddenly thought about the kids, where are the kids . And my first instinct was to look into the bronco. A and i got up on the passengers seat and i could see more into the back and thats when i saw brad and jill. Narrator jill, still buckled in on the passengers side was slumped over, there was blood in her hair. Next brad seemed to be clamoring over the seat. Was it apparent in your shock, that this was a gunshot event . I did not know how they died. So you jumped over the console . I thought maybe he might have a chance. Narrator david had been an indiana state trooper for over 11 years. That night in the garage, david said, his Police Training kicked in. It seemed to him that his daughter jill was dead, but if there was even a whisper of a chance for his son brad, david knew he had too get him out of the bronco and give him cpr. I went in and got him and came out the same way i came in. You put him down on the garage floor and began working on him . Yes. I just remember looking at his face. And his eyes, there was no moisture, and they were half shut. It was pretty obvious that he was gone. And this has all happened in, what, 45 seconds of your life . Probably, maybe a minute. Narrator kneeling on the bloody garage floor, amidst the bodies of his family, david knew he had to get help. Get everybody out here to my house now. Narrator he called the Indiana State Police where he used to work. Get everybody out to my house now. Okay, david, we got people on the way, okay . Get everybody out here. Everythings going to be okay. Everythings not okay, get everybody out here today. Go to dave camms house now. Do you know what happened, david . Narrator david camms 13year journey into hell was only minutes old. Reporter your family dead, murdered. How do you even begin to absorb that . Just all these things spinning around inside my head. Is this real . Am i really here . It was surreal. Honestly, im a little old fashioned. I love chalk and erasers. But change is coming. All my students have the brand new surface. It has the new windows and comes with office, has a real keyboard, so they can do real work. They can use Bing Smartsearch to find anything in the world. Or last nights assignment. And the battery lasts and lasts, so after school they can skype, play games, and my favorite. Do homework. Change is looking pretty good after all. Do you really think brushing is enough to keep it clean . While brushing misses germs in 75 of your mouth, listerine® cleans virtually your entire mouth. So take your oral health to a whole new level. Listerin®. Power to your mouth™. So through february 15th, buy a box of cheerios and well give you one free to share with family. Only 1 million coupons available. Visit cheerios. Com to print your coupon and for other restrictions. [ male announcer ] may your lights always be green. [ tires screech ] [ beeping ] may you never be stuck behind a stinky truck. [ beeping ] may things always go your way. But its good to be prepared. Just in case they dont. Toyota. Lets go places, safely. Narrator david camm says he came home one night in the fall of 2000 to an unimaginable horror. His wife, little boy and girl had been murdered. Get everybody out here to my house now okay. Narrator a after trying unsuccessfully to revive his son, david ran across the street to a relatives home. I heard the banging on the door. Narrator davids uncle nelson was there. David was beating on the door, hollering, nelson, nelson, somebodys murdered my family. Theyre all dead. Theyre all dead. Narrato narrator david yelled at him to check on jill to the brocnco. Like david he was a former state trooper and he knew the crime scene had to be preserved. I reached back and i saw jill and i touched her on the arm. I said jilly, jilly. You knew she was gone . I said dave, i think theyre all gone, buddy, i think theyre all gone. Narrator david lost it. He was down on the ground and laying on his back rolling around on the ground. Why did it go . Why didnt i stay with them . Narrator nelson managed to get david out of the garage. So you really are the officer securing the scene . I knew it had to be done because i knew we had a horrific crime scene and i wanted to be sure they didnt do anything to hamper it. Narrator david camm says he was way beyond understanding anything that night. But the questions would and stop. Just all these things spinning around inside my head, is this real . Am i really here . Did i really just find kim and brad and jill as they are . It was just surreal. Narrator that night was the end of everything david and kim had built together. They had met in the late 1980s. They were introduced by marcie mccloud. Marcy had been best friends with kim ever since the ninth grade. She was very funny, very loyal. Very sweet. Narrator david and kim married in 1989, they threw a Big Fun Party and then got on with their lives. Kim in corporate accounting and david as an indiana state trooper. Here he is in uniform being interviewed in the 1990s about road safety during the holidays. He was soon member of an elite emergency kind of s. W. A. T. Team. That is the band of brothers, huh . Oh, yeah. A special Weapons Tactical Group . Yes, exactly. Love those guys, were talking about guys you would literally die for. Narrator but over time as the kids were born, david wanted to spend more time with his family. He left the band of brothers. It must have been hard to leave, dave. You have this good thing youre going to, and you wanted to have more of a life, but i can see how much you liked being in Law Enforcement. I just felt like definitely i was in a point in my life where i needed to make that change and i wanted to make that change and i presumed that i would remain close with these guys, that they would always be my friends and that they would always have my back if i ever needed them. By 2000, the camms seemed to be living an idyllic live. Kim was a great mom. Those kids, they were like my grandkids. Little jill, yeah tell me about her . She was a character. She really was. Just a funny little girl. If she didnt have your attenti attention, she would get it. She was very, i think she would have been very athletic. She was gifted in that way. And brad was the swimmer . He loved it, he was great at it. Being a father, i thought, this kids good. Narrator there were gatherings with davids sprawling extended family, the lockharts, the descend deants o nine brothers and sister. The lockharts were so prevalent that the road they lived on was named after them. The awful news raced through two families that night. Davids sister julie was getting ready to go to bed when the phone hang. I was like, what are you talking about . What are you saying . Mom had all the pictures of brad and jill, i guess, that she could gather up and was holding them and just sitting on the floor and just rocking and saying, my babies, my babies, theyve killed my babies, somebodys killed my babies. Narrator david sent his uncle to tell kims parents. A knock on the door in the middle of the night, what can this be . Oh, it cant be good. I go out and i open the door and i see him standing out there and i think my mind just went blank. And janice yelled for me to get out there and so i got out there. Sam says ive got some bad news, kim, brad and jill have been shot. With that i just slumped down to a sitting position and i sat there and cried. Couldnt believe it. Narrator on lockhart road, the sound of silence, followed by flashing lights. A Homicide Investigation was beginning. And davids friends and former colleagues in the Indiana State Police would be on the front line. Reporter coming up, something strange at the crime scene. Kims shoes placed neatly on top of the bronco. What could that mean . Never seen her shoes there. Never. Reporter when dateline continues. Neil lane bridal, from hollywoods premier jewelry designer. Artistry diamonds, genuine diamonds in vibrant artists colors. Tolkowsky, inventors and perfectors of the idealcut diamond. These stunning bridal brands and more, together in one place kay jewelers. Every kiss begins with kay over the age of three have gum disease . So give your dog dentastix® as part of their oral care routine. Dentastix® treats have a unique texture thats clinically proven to reduce up to 80 of tartar buildup. Smile, its dentastix® time up to 80 of tartar buildup. For better color. Ip new colorsensational™ the buffs from maybelline, new york. Only the truest flesh tone pigments for our most honest, naked look. Precious oils for that sensuous feel. Naked or nothing. New colorsensational™ the buffs maybe its maybelline. Meet our contestant. Will she choose to help maintain her hands. Or to really clean her dishes . Oooh, we have a game changer . [ female announcer ] dawn hand renewal with olay beauty has a specially designed formula that helps lock in your hands natural moisture while getting dishes squeaky clean. [ sponge ] sparkling dishes and fabulous hands she looks happy about those prizes [ female announcer ] dawn does more. [ sponge ] so its not a chore. [ female announcer ] dawn does more. Or how to find big savingsdeals on the things you need. Just make a Straight Line to safeway. Youll find huge club card deals perfect for the big game. Pizzas a football favorite. Digiorno pizza is 3. 99. Get your snack on. Wheat thins and other nabisco crackers are just 1. 50 a box. And dreyers ice cream is only 2. 88. Real big deals this week and every week. Only at safeway. Ingredients for life. Hales corners, wisconsin. Nice pass by alyson dudek. Can she hang on to that spot . And she does [ male announcer ] with the uverse wireless receiver, your tv goes where you take it, allowing inspiration to follow. [ dad ] looks pretty good, right . [ girl ] yeah. [ male announcer ] add a uverse wireless receiver today. [ man ] yo buzz drop that beat remix hey must be the honey you got that medley crunch go go buzz go go go buzz hey must be the honey clusters, flakes that medley crunch, crunch clusters, flakes that medley crunch, crunch go hey must be the honey hey you got that medley crunch hey must be the honey al. The answer to that question would be the responsibility of the investigators, the Indiana State Police and the floyd county prosecutor in Southern Indiana, stan faith. He got the call at 10 00, 10 30 that night. Did someone on the other end of the phone tell you it was bad . Yeah. Narrator faith knew immediately the case would be big. He got to the crime scene asap. The first thing the prosecutor noticed was the ribbon of blood running out of the garage downing the drive. She could see kim lying by the passenger door, her pants removed. It had the signature of a sex crime, the children killed because they were witnesses. An article of clothing that would become hugely important in time. The boy was laying there and his hands were out and of course i didnt see the little girl. They told me that she was still in the truck. Narrator the state police, indianas top investigative force had all right begun its work. The crime scene techs examined the bronco, took their measurements and their pictures. Was it too soon for you to take all that stuff in . The thing that struck me the most was how clean the garage was. You just dont expect that. Narrator some of the troopers in the garage had been fellow officers of the husband, david camm. There were a couple they didnt really recognize, but for the most part, throughout the course of the evening, tlltd he would be people that i knew. Narrator the chief investigator would be davids childhood friend. They would have the talk right there. He said i know, get it done. Because of your experience, they always look at the spouse. Sure, everybodys a suspect. In the beginning, you dont know. Narrator but in his case, david thought, it was a by the book formality. He was confident his friends would do all they could to find the killer. These were your brothers in uniform, these guys . Right. You had ridden with them. They had been to my house, we had eaten together, we knew each others families. Narrator in this audiotape of his first interview that night. You can hear the troopers handling him with kid gloves out of respect. Were going to try to find out what happened so that we can bring that person to justice as best we know how. Get it right. Right, exactly. Whatever you want to ask me. Narrator as far as david knew, his wife had followed her usual busy routine, working and then shuffling the kids around after school. Was the shooter waiting for her in the garage . Or did her killer follow her in . The investigators asked david if anyone had been stalking kim, bothering her . If there was, she hadnt said a word. How about phone calls . Any hang up phone calls . Suspicious phone calls . No. Narrator and they wanted to know if the husband could help them understand and oddity about the crime scene. Why would kims shoes have ended up neatly placed atop the roof of the bronco. I have no idea why her shoes were up there. Did she ever kick her u shoes off while shes driving . Never seen her take her shoes off. Never. You saw those shoes, though . Damn straight i did. Narrator as the investigators wrapped up, they made sure that david got fresh clothing because they were sending they shoes and tshirt out for testing. The next day the camms neighbors were absolutely stunned by a crime of this magnitude in their quiet community. It makes no sense. Theres never been any trouble out here to speak of, you know. Narrator as the hunt for the killer continued, investigators asked neighbors if they had seen or heard anything suspicious . Right now, this is very, very much an open investigation. Narrator three days after the murderers, david camm faced the cameras. I want my family back, i want my babies back and my wife. Narrator and he begged the killer to come forward. Turn yourself in, you cant live with the guilt. What you did was such air rational ridiculous, ludicrous, satanic thing. You cannot you cannot live with that guilt. Narrator an arrest in the case was only hours away. Reporter coming up im a mess. Im on medication, im having to buy caskets, im having to buy burial plots. Reporter a husband and father in mourning, about to face the second Biggest Surprise of his life. Youre wrong, wrong, wrong. To quote from whitman, you are here. That life exists and identity. That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse. That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse. What will your verse be . Time to complete your bachelors or masters degree and prepare for a new career. With Devry Universitys meritbased career catalyst scholarship you can. Apply by february 28th for up to 20,000 for qualifying new students. With this scholarship you could be on your way. In 2012 90 of our associate and bachelors grads actively seeking employment had careers in their field within 6 months. Make this your year. Start at devry. Edu. Apply by february 28th. A commercial for women only. This is levian chocolate diamond jewelry. Levian, masters of jewelry design for centuries is the only company on earth to make jewelry with chocolate diamonds. And jared is the only place where youll find such an amazing levian selection. With styles you wont find anywhere else. Levian. Thats why he went to jared. Narrator in the days after the murders, two families, the lockharts, uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces and kims family were united in grief. We lost three wonderful people that we love dearly. We dont have them with us today. Kim, bradley, jill, all gone. Gone. Narrator david was all but shutting down. Im a mess, im on medication, im having to buy caskets, im having to buy burial plots, ive got all this stuff going on. Narrator three days after the murders, the Indiana State Police called david in for a second interview. He sat down with two cops he newell. He had been sharing coffee and cases with them for years. Because of the high profile of this case, and because of obviously you know the notori y notoriety this time the tone of the interview had changed. Because now the investigators did have a working theory of the murders. And the evidence they were gathering pointed to none other than david camm as the killer. Their onetime fellow trooper, their Law Enforcement brother, was now quite possibly their man. A monster who had murdered his family. They had a timeline, the murders took place, they believed, between 9 15 and 9 30 that night, after david returned home. People heard something they thought was unusual. When we talked to them, they said it sounded like gun fire. Narrator the police canvass had turned up a neighbor who heard shots fired. They noted the time, the time was when you were already home. The time was 9 20, shortly thereafter. David saw where this was going and pushed back. Im just telling you what we you know. Its wrong, its wrong. People are making this up . Im telling you people are confused. Narrator the investigators account had David Camm Square in the crosshairs. He came home from basketball and killed his family. Its not right. Its not right. Its not right. Its not right, guys. Its not right. Youre wrong. Youre wrong, wrong, wrong. Youre wrong, darrell. Youre wrong. Well this is not right. Youre getting off the track. Somethings not right here. Now think. Narrator they told david about physical evidence they collected, specs of blood, barely visible to the naked eye on the bottom of the tshirt he wore that night. The crime scene already told them the husband and father did it. Blood on your shirt and i had it dna analyzed. This is scientific documentation, the only way that comes on is from blow back, or blowout from a gunshot wound. Blood spatter t case against david camm. That is supposed to be on my tshirt that i played ball in . Yes. Wrong, darrell. Wrong, guys. What do we do when they tell us that . Now we got to figure out why. You better find another expert. Narrator but the cops had full confidence in their man. I rely on this man and hes very hes renowned as far as his expertise. This is not something he just started to do yesterday. Narrator the noose was tightening even as david protested. The tshirt that i had on was what i had on. Thats what i wore over and thats what i wore home. And any blood that got on it now came from either an impression of something i leaned on in the car or it came o. Skin narrator signs of a cleanup that had to be david. Theres signs that there was a cleanup. Thats ridiculous. What about the bleach, david. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. I didnt clean up [ bleep ] somebody may have. But it wasnt me. That person is your suspect. Narrator and there was something disturbing, the medical examiner found when she looked at jill t young daughter. Signs of blunt trauma in the genital area. To them that meant one thing, that david camm had molested his daughter. It happened that day, that night, thats when it happened, and it wasnt by me. You guys are wrong. I did not do this. I did not do this. Who did do it . I dont know. Thats why i called you guys. Thats what your job, thats what youre supposed to be doing. Youre looking so hard at me. Were looking at everybody, david. But youre still off base. Youre so wrong. Youre so wrong, mickey. An arrest warrant issued out of floyd superior court. Narrator hours after his second interview, the Indiana State Police arrested david camm and charged him with the murders of his wife and two children. It had been three days since the shooting. Reporter coming up, accused of murder, and the evidence a phone call. This phone call blows up his alibi . Yes. Reporter a tshirt and a parade of women. Theres people he pulls over, flirts with them. And eventually seduces them. Reporter when dateline continues. The sweetness and the sorrow we did what we had to do wont forget, cant regret what i did [ horn blares ] for looooove [ sirens wail ] [ male announcer ] kraft macaroni cheese. You know you love it. Treat play more. [ sirens wail ] [ male announcer ] kraft macaroni cheese. Go more. Now. Save more at the petsmart stock up save sale. Find great deals like up to 10 cans for 10. Plus, get more savings on all your favorite wet brands. At petsmart®. Wake it up with olay regenerist. Formulated with a skin energizing complex, it penetrates 10 layers of the skins surface. Because energized skin is younger looking skin. In her favorite color . Diamonds that capture her look, her style perfectly. Kay jewelers presents the artistry diamonds collection. Genuine diamonds, in vivid blues, greens, blacks, yellows and purples. And right now save up to 30 off artistry diamonds in a palette of colors, at kay, the number one Jewelry Store in america. Artistry diamonds. Theyre diamonds of a different color. Every kiss begins with kay okay. Lets i think i forgot to its race dapay a bill. Whats up ted . Artistry diamonds. Theyre diamonds of a different color. Yep, paid that one. What about your mortgage . Yep, paid that too. Alright were good then. Man i feel like im forgetting something. Eh, its probably nothing. You worry too much ted. Alright, hammer down bank from almost anywhere with the citi mobile app. Citi, with you every step of the way. Which 4g lte map has the most coverage . This isnt real difficult. Pretty obvious to me. Im going to have to say verizon verizon. The choice is obvious. Verizon is americas largest and most reliable 4g lte network, with data plans starting as low as 45 monthly access including unlimited talk and text. Plus free world messaging unlimited for three months. Thats powerful. Verizon. Act now and get a free droid mini, plus 100 to spend. I want my babies back, my wife. Narrator david camm, once an indiana state trooper was now locked up in the floyd county jail, charged with the murder of his wife and children. Tell me about your emotions. Every time i heard a key jingle outside my door, i would think to myself, oh, this is it, they have figured it out. Theyre going to come back and say david, we messed up. Narrator sam had the grit to make his voice heard. Why did you take on the responsibility, sam, to take it as far as you could . I didnt have any other options. I know he was innocent, i know hes lost his family. And i know he lost hiss freedom. What am i going to do . He hasnt lost me. The focus maybe something awful here and david snapped and killed his family. I never thought that david killed his family. Never thought it, never did. Narrator kims parents, janice and frank were absorbing the awful facts the police told them, that their soninlaw was the killer. They have made an arrest and its david. I was just out of it. And when it finally did sink in, i was back and forth. Were talking about the early days here. I wasnt 100 sure, i was just going by what the police was telling me. Narrator before long they became convinced that their soninlaw had murdered his family. 15 months after the murders, david camm went on trial, he pleaded not guilty. By now the prosecutors timeline changed. Originally he said that david killed his family between 9 15 and 9 30 after david returned from the basketball game. The defense had shown the time of death was somewhere between 7 30 and 8 00 p. M. Everything said this happened much earlier. Now the prosecutor argued that david went to the gym at 6 00, then he secretly ducked out of the basketball game, went home killed his family and then returned to play ball. There was a call to a customer from his land line phone, time stamped 7 19 p. M. Youve got a husband that says i was playing basketball at 7 00, youve got a phone record that says he likely is making a call to a customer land line in his home, so hes not playing basketball. Almost certainly would be the one that was doing it. And this phone call blows up his alibi . Yes. Narrator the prosecutor moved on to the crime scene and focused on what happened to kim in the garage that night. We thought that the pants had been pulled down. You have accused the husband of the murder, why are you telling the jury that he was pulling h in ing her panels dow. Trying to get the jury to think that somebody was in there to molest her. That there had been a break in. Narrator investigators had never located the murder weapon. The only physical evidence the cops had that the gun was in davids hand that night was this. Barely visible drops of blood on the lower left of camms tshirt. Blow back, this is what happens when you shoot somebody at close range . Yes. You get that blood on your shirt. He got high impact spatter on hiss tshirt, he has to be within four feet of the child at the time that the child was killed. Narrator the prosecution believed david camm shot from inside the car, targeting jill in the back seat. Thats how her blood sprayed on his shirt. But why . Why would david camm kill his family . The reason for those killings, the prosecutor, declared was that david camm was a philandering husband. It probably was one of the first times that i really ever heard kim cry. Remember kims old friend, Marcy Mccloud . The prosecutor had her testify about an affair david had when kim was pregnant in late 1994. Marcie testified that kim called her in tears to say that she and david were separating. Marcie soon after visited kim. She was upset. You know, and saddened by it, especially just having a baby. Narrator and there was more. Just three weeks before the murders, marcy had another troubling phone call from kim. Her demeanor was different, her attitude and she didnt want to hang up the phone, but yet she didnt want to talk. Narrator the old friends made plans for kim a and the children to visit marcy. Then kim said something she never explained. She felt like history was repeating itself. We didnt go into what that meant because she said, well talk about it when i get there. Kim never made it. At trial t clear i, the clear i was that david was catting around again. Theres people he pulls over, flirts with them and eventually seduces them. In court the prosecutor called a parade of women presenting them as david camms conquests, more than a dozen of them recounting the fondling, the sex in the patrol car. He wanted to have women and his wife was getting in the way . Yes. She was an on stack bstacle kind of women he wanted to pursue . Yes. Narrator the prosecutor had a capper, something really dreadful. The medical examiners testimony that the injuries on the murdered daughter, 5yearold jill were consistent with sexual abuse. Not a little girl falling on the monkey bars. No, not the monkey bars, it wasnt a bicycle or anything like that. Narrator so the killer with blow back blood spatter on his tshirt. The defense lawyers had their work cut out for them. You had an uphill fight as a defense attorney. Yes. And that was not unusual, but this was so much more high profile. Reporter coming up, the timeline of the crime. That was their smoking gun. Reporter the defense is about to stop the clock. Thats insane. Yep, and you can customize it. I can download anything i want. [ girl ] seriously . Thats a lot of music. Seriously. Thats insane. And its 15 bucks a month for the family. Seriously . Thats a lot of gold rope. Seriously, thats a signature look. You dont have a signature look, honey. Thats a signature look. [ male announcer ] only at t brings you beats music. Unlimited downloads for up to 5 accounts and 10 devices all for 14. 99 a month. [ male announcer ] old el paso frozen entrees. Now in freezers. At lenscrafters we call it accufit. [ male announcer ] old el paso frozen entrees. A digital scanning system five times more precise. Helping you see perfectly. Accufit only at lenscrafters. Narrator the trial of david camm was under way in floyd county, indiana. It was the winter of 2002. Nervous . Narrator david camm, accused of murdering his wife and two Young Children always insisted the case against him was built on quick sand. Its about them crafting and molding a belief that was totally founded on things that werent factual and it was just a complete fiction. Narrator davids defense attorney Mike Mcdaniel has known david as a trooper. What impressions did you have of david before he became the client . I figured he was another red neck state cop. We had done a couple of cases, him on one side, me on the other. Narrator but mcdaniel became convinced of davids innocence and came on board to defend him. This is one of the most terrible cases that a defense lawyer never wants. You dont want an innocent client. You call them a ravager because they make you crazy. Before the trial, daniel knew he had to confront all these women. The jurys getting a picture of this hard working wife, nose to the grindstone, taking care of the babies and running the household. Yep. While hes out with pole dancers . He has women coming in with varying degreeses of sexual contact or innuendinnuendo. He put david on the stand to stay he knew he messed up. I regret all that stuff. Its so unfortunate the disrespect that i showed my wife. But good god, we dont jump to that to saying that automatically makes a person a murder, its just ridiculous. Narrator then the defense had to confront the ugly allegation that 5yearold jill camm had been molested. But in fact the medical examiners report had not exact said that. It simply stated that the perus bruises were the result of blunt trauma. There may be some evidence here of child molestation. This is a very, very tough thing to combat. Its literally impossible. The defense turned to the physical evidence. The statess strongest evidence, the forensic case for davids guilt was the blood spatter. The defense expert testified the blood got on davids tshirt very simply, when david reached into the back seat to move his son, his shirt brushed against his daughters hair. There was some blood on some of her hair around the wound. So defense testimony was that was transfer. From that contact with the ends of the strands of her hair. Narrator and then the timeline. The defense lawyer challenged the prosecutions theory that david snuck out in the middle of his basketball game, killed his family and then returned to play ball. The defense attorney focused on the phone call made from the camm house at 7 19 p. M. When david said he was at the church gym. The state had tethered its timeline to that phone call. That was their smoking gun, which they had a bunch of those and every time they would have a smoking gun, we would just unload it. Narrator the defense unloaded by calling an expert from verizon, saying the timeline was incorrect, because of indianas jumbled time zones. Their 7 19 phone call was actually a 6 19 phone call. Narrator a call that david made to a client before he left to play basketball. Plus there was a solid alibi. The basketball players, the corroborate that he had been to the gym throughout that evening. Did he leave the court that night . No, he couldnt have left without one of you guys i would see him at one point in time running down the court. And then maybe just would have saw him at another point in time. So throughout that time, theres ten sets of eyes looking in ten different directions, as a group, i think someone would have noticed that he was missing. Narrator sam lockhart the uncle was playing basketball that night too . Is it possible that david would have snuck out . Is it possible that he could have snuck out, killed his family and snuck back in . Absolutely not. Narrator if david wasnt the killer, who was . The prosecution had its answer, it was the one that owned that sweatshirt, the one lying on the garage floor. The defense attorney Mike Mcdaniel had recognized the sweatshirt as prison issue. In the collar of the sweatshirt is the word backbone, and im thinking, thats a nickname. Narrator tests on that sweatshirt revealed dna from various persons, including an unknown male. But there was no match when it was run through the database. There was proof that someone else was in the garage that night. We knew that there was probably the key to solving this. We didnt know that person by name, by god we knew him by dn a a profile. Narrator finally it was up to the jurors. As reporters lingered in the hallway, the jury deliberated for three days. Guilty. Narrator david camm was found guilty of killing his wife and children. The jury comes back and guilty as charged. Thats what we wanted and now we feel like kim, brad and jill can be at rest now. But his sister, an emotional outburst. Before i even knew it, i was standing up and i was screaming, youre wrong, youre wrong, youre wrong. And a few people had to take me out of the courtroom. And youre being walked off in chains . Youre not leaving that courthouse . No. And knowing what lies ahead of me. Going to prison, a former Police Officer. There as absolutely nothing i can do about it. Narrator david camm was sent to the state penitentiary to serve a terms of 195 years. But his uncle sam was hanging in. You didnt think you were finished at that point . Unless they would have killed me, thats how they could have stopped me. No, it wasnt over. Narrator it wasnt over not by a long shot. But not even uncle sam could predict the stunning turn that would lay ahead. Reporter coming up, a break in the case, someone new enters the picture. As brain any as ted bundy and as brauny and mike tyson. Never have 80 calories tasted so satisfying. Light fit greek. Taste satisfaction without sacrifice. Dannon for centuries. This levian collection is amazing. Maybe its time to start your own. [ female announcer ] kay jewelers presents todays levian collection. [ gasps ] featuring exclusive levian chocolate diamonds. From the levian family where the latest in fashion meets fine jewelry. One more reason kay is the numberone Jewelry Store in america. Its. A work of art . Every kiss begins with kay you raise her spirits. We tackled your shoulder pain. You make him rookie of the year. We took care of your cold symptoms. You take him on an adventure. Tylenol® has been the number 1 doctor recommended brand of pain reliever for over 20 years. But for everything we do, we know you do so much more. Tylenol®. Reporter returning now to our story. A former state trooper has been convicted of murdering his family. All along, hes insisted hes innocent, and that the real killer is out there, walk the streets. And he may be right. Here again is dennis murphy. Guilty. Narrator in early 2002, david camm was found guilty on three counts of murdering his wife and two children. His sentence, 195 years behind bars. Youve been sent to the slammer that youre going to do time in. Youre learning how to become incarcerated. I had to. I didnt have a choice. I had to figure out how to survive. And i made my mind up early on thats what i was going to do. Whatever it took. Did you get confronted inside the joint, this is the guy that was a former cop, trooper . Not directly. But people would say things or you would hear people talking and so on. Did you think im done . I was bewildered at first, but i thought there was still a possibility, or a glimmer of hope, theres this thing called an appeal. Theres an appeal, another trial. Overturning a firstdegree murder conviction, long odds . Yes. Until you read that transcript. Narrator a new team of attorneys took the case to the state court of appeals. It wasnt long odds in my mind. It was way over the top. Narrator what was over the top they argued, was allowing all those women to testify to the sex t groping, the come ones. It was weeks after weeks, woman after woman. How is that relevant to what happened on september 28th . Jurors, this is a bad guy we have got here. Absolutely. Hes a louse of a husband and were going to tell you more than that. And it was intentional, too. Narrator and two years after the guilty verdict t Appeals Court agreed. The women should never should have testified. In review of some previous evidence and in view of some new evidence thats come to light. I have decide to pursue david camm for the murders of kimberly camm, bradley camm and jill cam. R. Narrator with another trial looming, the defense team was intent on bringing sharply into focus a piece of evidence it believed would set david free. The sweatshirt with that unknown dna. Sam lockhart says he approached the new investigators to run it through again. I wanted to show them the unknown dna in case this guy had been arrested now and we got new dna on this database, will you return it . No, they cant. We started saying, please run the dna through the database. And he said we wont do it. Lo and behold, we find charles bonae. I had never heard the name before, it was a complete shock to me. Narrator charles bonae, his business nickname was backbone, the same name inked into the sweatshirts collar. As brainy as ted bundy and as brawny as mike tyson. It began in the 1980s when he was a student at indiana university. Newspapers called him the shoe bandit and followed his bizarre crimes. There had been four separate incidents. He would wrestle the woman to the ground and take off her shoes. One crime he wore kind of those zul masks. Like creepy stuff you cant make up. Narrator the police were on to it. After one arrest, he admitted in effect that he had a thing for ladies legs and feet. He pleaded guilty to those crimes and in time his attacks became more violent. He began threatening women at gu gunpoint. One incident involved three coeds. He had been watching them, one night just walked into their apartment, held them at gunpoint to their head, took them out, kidnapped them to the car. Luckily somebody saw him with the gun leading the women out, called Bloomington Police department. Narrator he pleaded guilty again and was sentenced to 20 years in prison for armed robbery, but was released after serving only 7 years. At the time of the camm murders, he was out on parole. He fit the profile . Yes, he has a foot fetish, and when they saw at first that it was not a sex crime, we kept saying, well, not everybody targets the same place in sex crimes. Narrator kim camm had bruising on her toes, her shoes were on top of the bronco, her pants had been removed and bonaes sweatshirt with his dna was found at the crime scene. It took one hour and one email to find charles bonae. That could have been done in 2002. You would think on a case in which children and a mom are murdered, ambushed into a garage, the state would bend over backwards to do it right. Narrator stan faith was the prosecutor in trial one. The defense said, well, we asked you the prosecutors to send that out, to be tested against a National Register of dna . I asked the lead investigator to do that and he said we didnt get anything. When in fact he hadnt sent it out at all. I think he sent it out. He hadnt sent the proper dna. Narrator faith says he later learned that the detectives sent out the wrong dna sample from the sweatshirt. Mike mcdaniel, the defense attorney isnt buying it. When he says that the prosecution is lying to him. Lying means that you knowingly tell a falsehood. I didnt tell him a lie. I told him what i thought was true. Narrator but whatever the truth is, now more than four years later, there was a name to that dna. Do you a allow yourself to think, here we are on our way to case closed finally . Absolutely. We have got a name, we have got genetic forensic evidence, this is the shooter . Thats right, absolutely. Reporter coming up, the new suspect in the hot seat. If anything else links you to it, youre done. Stick a fork in you. I wasnt there. This intense interrogation, where will it lead . Door bell ] [ footsteps ] [ gasp ] holy. Im justin. [ jt ] i always love to get a fans story. And to also surprise them. [ sighs ] i dont know if i can do this right now. Come on, you can do it i love it, i love it. Oh, ohohoh [ male announcer ] if you have a mastercard, you could get a priceless surprise, concert tickets, trips, even a visit from justin timberlake. So youre a fan of me . Thats what youre saying . Of course. Sick but hes got such sensitive skin that you worry about what you use in the laundry. My tide, downy, and bounce all come in free gentle. So we get a cleaner, softer blankie. Uh oh. [ female announcer ] tide, downy, and bounce free gentle. Uh oh. Im here today at walmart row checking out pricesarties ever to see if i can make my game day better. Did you know that only 1 in 100 peanuts are lucky enough to be an m m peanut . No, no i didnt. Yeah, this bag on roll back . 7. 98. Wow yeah, and this bag . 4. 74. Score perfect for your party and, these delicious snickers are packed with peanuts and on roll back for only 1. 50 each wow, thats awesome ha thats crazy its not a party unless i serve m ms and snickers. Tthe pleasure you crave bjust got real. Leasure . Light fit greek nonfat yogurt. Irresistible flavors, like strawberry cheesecake, with a thick creamy texture. Never have 80 calories tasted so satisfying. Light fit greek. Taste satisfaction without sacrifice. Dannon friends are like family, so whos gonna be in yours . My girls, my lady and my fantasy league. Except jerry. [ male announcer ] but the more people you add, the lower the rate. Fine. Jerry. [ male announcer ] add up to 10 people and everyone gets unlimited talk, text and one gig of data for as low as 25 a month each. We can get one more. Add my boyfriend. Whoa whoa whoa his bill is separate right . [ male announcer ] all the bills are separate. Great. The framily plan from sprint. With a new price, a new plan, and our all new network, theres never been a better time to switch. Narrator by 2005, david camm had been behind bars for more than four years. Generally from september through february were my darkest times of the year, you know, the times of the murders and then you have the holidays and then the kids birthdays in february. Did you feel yourself becoming institutionalizes . I had to a degree. And for me it was a matter of sitting back and observing and seeing how things operate so i could fit in enough to be okay. You know, i had to lock the real me down inside. How were his spirits . Was he holding on or was he sinking . David would sink only briefly. He would have lows, there were times i talked to him and he would seem really low. But he couldnt stay there. Staying in that despondency, that hopelessness is excrucia excruciati excruciating. Narrator but now there seemed to be a break in the case. That unknown dna on the sweatshirt was identified as charles bonae. Just days later, the cops brought him and started drilling him on how it ended up on the crime scene floor. Somehow that sweatshirt got there, your sweatshirt. You explain to me how it got there. I have no idea. Narrator bonae admitted the sweatshirt had once been his, but said he dropped it in the Salvation Army drop box about a month before the murders. It shows up a at a crime scene, not a laundry, not washed. If it went through the Salvation Army drop box, that would have been a clean sweatshirt, chances are your dna probably would not have been on there. But it is. I see where youre coming from. Narrator as for david camm . Do you know david camm. No. Have you ever met david camm . No. Do you remember the murder of david camms family . On television, yes. Do you know where david camm lives . Only on television. I dont even know what his address is. Narrator the interrogation went on for some 12 hours, with bonae sticking to his story. But detectives released him with a warning. Make no mistake about it, if anything else links you to it, youre done, stick a fork in you. And see, that would normally worry me. I wasnt there. Narrator then two weeks after letting bonae walk, there was something else, something big. Early yesterday morning, i was notified of some additional Scientific Evidence that linked mr. Bonae to the homicide. The prosecutor revealed that a palm print found on the exterior passenger side of the bronco door frame was left there by none other than charles bonae. Investigators had been aware of the palm print for more than four years, only now did they know whose it was. Bonae was pulled back into the Interrogation Room and the questioning became more confrontational. Youve got some explaining to go here, charles. Your palm print is on that bronco. Youre there. Now this is the time, this is the place, this is your last stage that youre going to have to tell us what the hell happened there. This is it. This cant be happening. Charles. Narrator after hours of denial, bonae changed hid story, yes, he did know david camm, they met playing pick up basketball. In another round of questioning, the story changed and changed again. Finally bonae put himself at the crime scene. The reason why i was police said david camm asked him to get an untraceable gun. He said he was the guy caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. As events started to unfold in the investigation, it became apparent that this case was intertwined between two people. Now the prosecutor had a new theory, david camm did not act alone, he had a con conspirato. Charless signature was all over the scene. He attacks women, defenseless, innocent women, he takes their shoes, their socks, he holds guns to their heads and threatens to shoot them in the head. All of those things from his previous crimes is exactly what happened to kim. Why cant they see this stuff . They just turned a blind eye to the facts. Narrator but the prosecutor had a different set of fangts. We know that the defense has maintained that this is now the killer, that i should dismiss the charges against david camm. The evidence is not there. Narrator in january 2006, charles bonae and david camm took trial separately in two different courthouse. While i wasnt accused of being the shooter, bonae was tried on three counts of murder, he was sentenced to 325 years, and the Prosecution Team rejected any those tiny specs of blood that were on davids shirt, but not on bonaes sweatshirt. His shirt does not have high velocity blood spatter on it. So a state trooper is now going to be a coconspirator. Theres no text messages, theres no phone calls, theres no smoke signals. Theres nothing between david camm and charles bonae. The case against camm was pretty much the same, absent the female witnesses, the Appeals Court had thrown out. This time the state focused on the allegation that david molested his 5yearold daughter as a motive for the murders. Well the motive was kimberly was leaving david camm and she was leaving him because of the child molesting. And he could not let her leave, he could not let that secret out. That was the secret in the camm household. Narrator the defense countered, brought in experts to show there was no solid evidence the little girl had even ben molested. The states theory of why david murdered his family was purely made up. It was speculation. Narrator david camm had never been charged with sexual molestation. But that didnt stop the prosecutor from closing his case with the big dramatic flourish. He took his finger and stuck it in daves face and said you molested your child. Narrator the jury took four days to reach its verdict. Guilty on all three counts, i can tell you that david camm has now been convicted in the murder of his wife and the murder of his two kids brad and jill. Guilty again. Guilty again. With the same inflammatory evidence. This is just such a heinous act zagts. Narrator but the saga was far from over. Davidssed to retreat. Reporter coming up. They certainly werent done, but prosecutors werent done either. The placement of the sweatshirt led you to believe that david camm put it there. And charles bonae, he was just getting started. He wants me to deliver a second handgun. When dateline continues. Well. Your boss loves the beach. Really . Shes been to london, paris and her son plays baseball. You psychic . No. I speak pandora. He went to jared. [ female announcer ] celebrate lifes unforgettable moments with a fabulous selection of pandora charms and bracelets including this charm and bracelet, exclusively at jared, the galleria of jewelry. Telling her lifes story with just a turn of the wrist. Youre good. I know. [ female announcer ] thats why he went to jared. Chose prego traditional over ragu traditional. Prego . but i buy ragu. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices ive made. [ pop muzak plays ] [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. Choose prego. [ streat play more. Go more. Now. Save more at the petsmart stock up save sale. Save up to 25 on thousands of items, including all sentry® dog cat calming solutions. At petsmart®. These are the hands a pediatrician. These are pioneering advances in heart surgery. And these are developing groundbreaking treatments for cancer. Theyre the hands of the nations top doctors. Kaiser permanente doctors. And though they are all different, they Work Together on a Single Mission saving lives. Discover how we are advancing medicine at kp. Org join us, and thrive. Narrator sam lockharts mission to clear the name of his nephew david continued unabated after camm and charles bonae were both convicted of the murders of davids family. Now weve got the killer who killed kim, brad and jill. We finally got that accomplished. Now our next chore, were still after that. We were still after getting david camm another trial. Youre back to the Appeals Court again . Right. All rise. Narrator the Indiana Supreme Court heard the appeal. These crimes are also connected. Narrator they argued that the evidence that david molested his daughter was pure speculation and should not have been allowed in the trial. Theres absolutely no evidence at all that camm was the perpetrator of that, right . Narrator in 2009, the upper court agreed. Convictions reversed. Two words. Thats all i needed. Narrator a second victory for the camm team. The conviction was overturned and the judge ordered a new trial. Statistically a successful appeal of a firstdegree murder charge is a long shot. And yet you got it. I got it twice. That doesnt happen. Doesnt happen. You know, if you dont believe in something bigger, you need to really evaluate your spirituality because, you know, man, that was a god thing. Narrator in august 2013, more than a dozen years after the murders, david camm faced his third jury. A special prosecutor sam lefco was hired to take the case. When i first got it, it was just overwhelming. I have tried a lot of Death Penalty cases, murder cases, i have never tried anything like this. I never seen anything as complicated. Narrator with no philandering husband, no molesting father, what remained was the theory of the crime that david left the basketball game, killed his family, then went back to play some more. Once again t prosecutor argued that the scene in the garage was staged to look like a sex crime. And her pants had been removed . Correct. Narrator removed after she had been killed. Whats more, the positioning of kims body, he argued, was not what you would expect of a person that had been shot and fall fallen. Her feet are under the car, roughly 10, 12 inches under the car. Her legs were bent at an angle which seemed unusual. Unusual how . They werent straight, they were at an angle that you wouldnt expect them to be that way. Narrator and the infamous sweatshirt, the one that once belonged to charles bonae was also part of the staging t prosecutor argued. The placement of the sweatshirt was incriminating. I thought the way it was put there led you to believe that david camm put it there. Narrator tucked all too neatly under bradley camms body, as though put there on purpose to frame charles bonae. Remember, no murder weapon was ever found. The heart of the prosecutions case was still that freckling of blood at the bottom of davids shirt. Powerful, incriminating evidence, it argued, making david as the shooter. The little girl was seat belted on this side, as youre looking in. Tom bevel, a blood stain pattern analyst was a witness for the prosecution. In a bronco similar to the one owned by the camms, he demonstrated for us the way he believes david was wedged inside the car to get those specs of blood on the bottom of his shirt. Whats a likely posture for the shooter . Leaning in somewhat like this north to get the correct trajectory for her. I notice your shooting hand is up pretty high. It is. Is that an awkward shot . Its not necessarily awkward, but we have to go with the physical evidence, and the physical evidence isnt like this. Narrator but why so few spots . Bevel said its because most of the blow back hit the inside roof of the vehicle. Like much of the other evidence, the blood spatter testimony was essentially the same as in the other two trials. What would be enormously different this time is the star witness. The jury was going to hear from charles bonae himself. A huge risk for prosecutor lefco. You wonder what kind of witness this charles bonae was going to be for you . I felt like i didnt have a choice, i suspect they would have. But also i thought the jury ought to hear it. Narrator this is the story bonae told in court. He says he met camm playing basketball at a local park. We talked to bonae in prison. It was just a pick up game of basketball. I didnt know him or really anyone there. Im fresh out of prison, the scene is different. Narrator after the game, he said camm was bragging, talking smack about how easily he had beaten bonae. At that point, i said, i may have lost the game, but at least i have my freedom. Hes like freedom, i was like yeah, i just got out of prison. Camm told him he used to be a state trooper. At the end of that day, did you know him by name . No, i didnt know him by name until our second channels meeting. Narrator that meeting was about a week or so before the murders. They ran into each other at a Convenience Store and got to talking in the parking lot. The gist of our conversation was are you employed . Are you staying out of trouble . Then it evolved into what types of things did you do to get into prison in the first place . He was creating hiss own form of intel. He was learning quite a few things about charles bonae. He told him he had been inside for robbery. When i slowly started to let him know about some of the things i did in the past. He asked me, well, are you still able to get untraceable weapons . Untraceable . Thats what it led to. A clean gun. Something that cant be traced by Law Enforcement and ballis c ballistics. So bonae said he met camm the same day, met him in a parking lot and handed over the weapon. He said he paid bonae 250. But one begin is not enough. So he wants me to deliver a secondhand gun. So i follow him back to hiss house. I can see visibly exactly where he lives. Narrator they spoke outside the house for just five minutes. Bonae asked when he should return for the second gun . Im asking this man, what time . What time should i be back here . Why dont you come back on thursday at approximately 7 00, et cetera. So i knew what time to be back. So meet me here on thursday night in the evening and youll have some more cash in your your pact . Absolutely. Narrator it was thursday september 28, the evening of the murders. I arrived at mr. Camms house at approximately 7 00. Narrator he said he hadn d it over to camm wrapped in his gray sweatshirt. My sole purpose is simply to get the 250 for the second weapon. Narrator bonae says a few minutes later, the wife and kids arrived and pulled into the garage. And what happens . I hear a little bit of commotion. It sounds like somethings not right. It sounds like theyre arguing and then all of a sudden, i hear an immediate pop. And before i heard the pop, i heard her say, no. And it was a commanding no. Like stop. Then i heard a pop, then i heard the word daddy. Two more pops. Did you know what that was . It sounded like handguns. So what did you think . I was thinking this was a crime scene. As he emerged from the garage and pointed the handgun at me, i was frozen. So youre a target . Absolutely. So he needs to kill charles bonae. But the gun jammed. The thing is, once i realized that your gun doesnt have projectiles in it. Now my job is to get you. Youre going for him . Absolutely. Narrator now as bonae tells it, the scene moved into the garage. As i go into the garage, im chasing after mr. Camm, i heard him say you did this. And i took that as, this is your crime. Narrator as camm went inside the house, bonae says he saw the victims. The wife by the car door. He remembers her being fully clothed. Then he says he stumbled. I trip over shoes. I clearly touch something that is now a part of what will be a murder scene. So yeah, i did pick them up, i did try to wipe them off. Kims shoes, he placed them on top of the bronco, then he looked inside the vehicle and says he saw the two children. Mindful of leaving dna and prints, he session he touched none of the bodies. Then he says he heard david moving inside the house. And it clicked inside my head, hes going for a weapon. I mean this guy is a former indiana state trooper. Narrator at that point he bolted from the scene. He would have lied and said to his buddies at the Indiana State Police, i came home and found this black guy. Narrator after hearing bonae testify, the defense was ready to pounce. Thats his story, and it makes absolutely no sense, but it explains away all the evidence that they had against him at the time. But what bonae didnt account for was the dna that was going to be found and he had no story for that. Reporter coming up, new dna evidence. He absolutely fought with camm, he touched jill. What will charles bonae have to say now . Charles bonae, did you kill that family . Is 50 more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. Use less, with the small but powerful pickerupper, bounty selectasize. When im training, i always blisten to music. For the gym, its hiphop. For crosscountry, classical. And for jumps, i need something. Special. So i use my Citi Thankyou visa card for music downloads and earn two times the points. Plus a little extra inspiration. [ music plays ] the Citi Thankyou preferred visa card. Earn two times the points on entertainment and dining out with no annual fee. Citi, with you every step of the way. And so do mouth germs. But now i have the protection of colgate total® mouthwash. It works just as hard and just as long as i do. [ man ] rolling in 5 [ male announcer ] colgate total® mouthwash. It kills germs on contact and has a germkilling shield that keeps working for 12 hours. It doesnt quit even after eating and drinking. Hi [ male announcer ] colgate total® mouthwash. 12 hour Germ Protection even after eating and drinking. Even after eating and drinking. announcer introducing tidy cats lightweight. With a clumping litter this light and just as strong at neutralizing odor, youll want to say. woman hey toss me that litter announcer introducing tidy cats lightweight. All the strength, half the weight. Honey . Uhhuh . [ female announcer ] this valentines day, spend less time communicating. Happy valentines day. [ female announcer ]. And more time. Connecting. With the charmed memories collection. [ gasps ] [ female announcer ]. At kay jewelers. Featuring nfl, collegiate, disney and hello kitty charms. At kay, the number one Jewelry Store in america. Every kiss begins with kay there is absolutely no way he could have left that gym. You have to believe that he knew when he was going to get to sit out. He timed it perfectly so it would be right at the time he was going to meet charles bonae and murder his family. It is beyond belief what he would have had to put in place for this alibi to have worked. Its a synchronize your watches kind of scenario. Theres no way he could have possibly pulled it off. Narrator and camm had an alibi. There were 11 people playing basketball. There is not one shred of evidence that puts those two people together. Narrator Richard Cameron was a new face on the defense team. And the reason there was nothing there was because it didnt happen. Narrator the reason the prosecution insisted that bonae was in the garage that night. To make that point the defense called damon fay, a veteran homicide detective who now trains police in how to conduct murder investigation. Fay recited flaw after fwlau in the investigation. When a homicide detective actually gets some physical evidence that has somebodys name on it, and dna, you hug it, you love it, and they treated it as an artifact. It would have changed everything. First of all, within two weeks tops, they would have had bonae. Narrator and faye of all the crime scene possibilities, the most misinterpreted is blood spatter. You dont hang the entire case just on the interpretation of blood spatter. Youve got to have so much more. Narrator the theory of a staged sex crime, flat out wrong. They really never probed out the fact that it could be a voyeur, or somebody with a panty fetish or someone whos just excited with the view of a womans legs. Narrator one like charles bonae. Because the suspect they dont know about and wont know about for five years has completely reflected that that crime scene up to the point of how kim was found. Narrator and remember a bonae palm print had also been found on the bronco. And the defense said that he was the killer. Defense expert eugene lissio showed us how the palm print would have been lift by the shooter. Its just as simple as reaching into the vehicle like this to make a shot for jill. And then for bradley you would lean over a bit more, and fire a shot this way. I noticed that you braced yourself here. Yes. This is yes crime scene techs find a palm print . Yes, they did, they found a palm print up in this area. But it makes perfect sense if youre leaning in and you want to stabilize yourself, especially if youre making a shot. Narrator now the police have Scientific Evidence. Bonaes story of course was i ran in, i did this, i never touched anybody clearly not true. There is something in the field of dna analysis called touch dna. Lab experts use human cells to make an identifying hit on a suspect. Touch dna from bonaes skin cells was found on kim camms sweater, on her underwear and on jills shirt. The dna conclusively proofs that he absolutely fought with kim, that he touched jill. And the defense hoped its crossexamination of bonae would be still more proof. Camm had to steel himself to watch bonae on the stand. There was no way for me to actually prepare myself for that. And it was a situation where i really had to think about what was at stake and doing what was right in that moment, having to sit there and look at this guy that i knew killed my family and not react. Narrator the defense said bonaes story was absurd. For starters why would an excop ask an excon for a gun. The guy who got out of prison doesnt smell a rat . He doesnt think im being set up . It makes absolutely no sense. Narrator the defense took on b onaes story in crossexamination. We had some of the same questions when we spoke to him. How many versions did it take to get to the story you just told . Four, five times maybe in. I finally find out, the more i keep lying, i just dig myself deeper and deer, im not going to get out of it. And when i did start telling the truth about things, i didnt feel comfortable revealing too much too soon because i didnt want to be a part of the case to begin with. So once again, i resorted to telling a lot of stories. But the big picture here charles for a lot of people is it sounds like a crock, that a felon, just out of the slammer would hook up with a recently retired state Police Officer and do this gun exchange. It just doesnt seem to make sense. It doesnt pass the sniff test. Theres a lot of things about this case that doesnt make sense. If i were you, i would have alarms going off inside my head, here you are on probation, how do you know that this former cop is really a former cop and hes not setting you up with a sting. Although that did cross my mind and i had concerns about him. There was something about him, if you have spent any time with mr. Camm, he has a way of putting you at ease, he has a way of making you feel like he legit and making you feel okay. I didnt care what the gun was for. This guy was on a special weapons team with the Indiana State Police. This premeditated crime, hes going trust a hanged gun thats come off the street, that he haslemnt checked out, hes unwrapped it from a sweatshirt and immediately used it for his business. It was the gun. Those are questions that i cant possibly answer. Why did he want me there at the crime scene . We know why because he wanted mess to take the blame for all of this. Narrator so as bonae tells it, the transaction happens, he hears the gun fire in the garage and then david camm tries to shoot him. Why didnt you just belt out of there . Even on a prison level, if i got comes at me with a shank, im going goat that shank from him, a him. My intent was to kill david camm that day, you tried to kill me, and now im going to kill you. But before i had a chance to kill him, i stumbled across this beautiful woman, dead, lifeless on the ground. Then bonae says he stumbled over the womans shoes and took the time to place them on top of the bronco. But then youre down on the floor t way you tell it. You tripped . Yes, i tripped over the shoes. And your emotions are going wild, this mans trying to kill you, youre at a crime scene, you trip, oh, shoes, i got to put these on the vehicle. Doesnt make any sense. Im wiping the shoes off, and i see one little leg or something hanging out the passenger side. I go to investigate to see if theres anyone else in the back of the vehicle. And when i leaned in to look, i put the shoes on top. I dont even remember doing it. Doesnt remember doing it, and he says he doesnt know why. I wasnt thinking about why i did that. But i was cognizant and really thinking about the dna or possible fingerprints from having tripped and touched those shoes. But you know, that palm print charles is just where you would brace yourself to lean across and shoot that little boy. Thats according to a defense expert witness. You got to understand, the prosecutions got that same evidence, they dont see it that way. If youre so concerned about tidying up, why would you be so clumsy as to leave a hand print on the vehicle. I see the children inside, i didnt know i left that palm print. I i had known, i would have taken the time to wipe it ah i just wanted to get out of there. Narrator how does he explain his touch dna on jill and kims clothes. My skin cells are clearly on him, so anything that he touches can be transferred. Narrator while the defense couldnt tell the jury about bonaes past, the foot fetish and the armed robberies. We knew the past and asked him about it. When you understand your criminal history, the fetishes, what happened in that garage, seems to fit your appetites. This guys history just played out on a violent scale that he had never been through before. First of all, my history does not consist of killing women, shooting people period, i have not had anything like that in my past. Yes, i have been in possession of handguns, yes when i was 20 years old, i did some armed robberies for cash. Were you in that garage that night with a gun in your hand taking control of kim camm . No, sir. The kids started to cry, shut up. In your panic, forget the sweat forget about the trophies got totally out of control, and you massacred a family. Charles bonae, did you kill that family . In fact thats the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. A guy with a foot fetish kills an entire family just to satisfy his foot fetish . In a place where hes never been before . It never happened. What are you hoping the jury hears today . I have no comment. David camms third trial came to an end after nine weeks. Its over, right now. Would the jurors believe the tale they heard . The felon duped into a crime scene by an excop . For the first time in 13 years, his fate was in their hands. I was scared to death. I kind of had that same feeling. But none of us had the nerve to utter it. And coming up sunday on dateline. Two women. Both lock in the struggles to survive. They took me out of the car. They had me kneel. I was sure that that was it. They were going to kill me. World traveler, reporter. Adventurer, then she became a prisoner. Tonight, they have brought me out to kill me. Kidnapped, in once of the most dangerous places on earth. I was hanging on by a thread. Her best hope for freedom mama. I love you. Her mother, who turned investigator, then negotiator. Could she saves her only daughter . I just felt like i had to. I had to be strong for her. Reporter also on sunday. I just want do come home. A mom trapped in a powerful storm. I want to see my babies and my mom. Out of time and almost out of hope. Then, one chance to get out alive. I was going to die trying. One womans true grit. The sooner the sun comes out, im going to have to try to make it. [ male announcer ] lets go places. But lets be ready. Lets do our homework. Lets look out for each other. Lets look both ways before crossing. Lets remember whats important. Lets be optimistic. But just in case lets be ready. Toyota. Lets go places, safely. Two greek yogurts, one winner. I love this one. Yoplait its so much better than chobani. I really have to say yoplait. A winner, winner [ female announcer ] let your tastebuds decide. Take the yoplait greek tasteoff. Afghanistan, in 2009. Orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once its earned, usaa Auto Insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. Because it offers a superior level of protection. And because usaas commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. Begin your legacy. Get an Auto Insurance quote. Usaa. We know what it means to serve. [ female announcer ] bandaid brand waterproof toughstrips. Designed with a foursided seal. Theyre waterproof, shielding out water, dirt, and germs. cause bandaid helps heal me [ female announcer ] use with neosporin antibiotic. Why let erectile dysfunction get in your way . Talk to your doctor about viagra. Ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. To avoid longterm injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. Stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. This is the age of taking action. Viagra. Talk to your doctor. I love chalk and erasers. But change is coming. All my students have the brand new surface. It has the new windows and comes with office, has a real keyboard, so they can do real work. They can use Bing Smartsearch to find anything in the world. Or last nights assignment. And the battery lasts and lasts, so after school they can skype, play games, and my favorite. Do homework. Change is looking pretty good after all. Narrator the jury in david camms third trial had the case. For two families, there was nothing to do but wait. Kims parents wanted nothing more than to hear the word guilty again. The new evidence had not changed their minds. You believe david killed your daughter and kids . Why is charles bonaes testimony not enough to explain what happened in that garage. Too many stories have been told on both sides. And i dont believe neither one of them are telling the truth. We have gotten word that a verdict has been reached. Reporter the jury took ten hours to reach a verdict. It has to be guilty. I wasnt expecting anything but guilty. Narrator prosecutor stan lefcos glass was half full or better. I thought we had a decent chance. I thought it could go either way, but i thought the trial went pretty well. Narrator but kims mom was worried. The jury only out ten hours, i had a really had feeling from the beginning that it was going to be not guilty. Narrator david in a holding cell, got ready, shaking violently. I literally could not button my shirt or fix my tie or my collar and so on. The deputies had to help me. Narrator his family the lockharts were heartened by the relatively fast deliberation. Everybody kind of had that same feeling of this might be good. But none of us had the nerve to utter it, you know, because you dont want to say that because the hurt, and the pain when they say guilty is so devastating. Narrator julie was breathless waiting for just one tiny word. I had been trying to practice in my head, what will it sound like to hear the worth not. Not . We had always heard guilty. So i kind of just fantasized about hearing that word. Narrator and thats exactly what she and everybody else in the courtroom heard that day. The word not, as in not guilty. Once, twice, three times. You hear the first one. And then you hear the second one, and youre praying to god you hear the third one. And thats when i lost it. You know, knowing finally, finally the truth has prevailed, justice for kim, brad and jill, for me, for my family. And i just fell to pieces. Not guilty . Not guilty. 13 years. 13 years. 13 years of hell. Everybody around me was crying, dave was bawling. I just sat there. I think i was finally saying we got this thing done. Finally. Narrator for the other side, the parents, the grandparents, the verdict was a devastating blow. When they said not guilty, that kind of like they ripped my heart out right there. Im like this cant be right. What did these jurors see that the earlier 24 jurors in the past didnt see . You know, he was convicted twice by 24 different people. And these 12 people see something that they didnt see . David, can you tell me how youre feel right now . Narrator outside the cameras were waiting. This is complete vindication, after 13 horrific years. This is a miracle, my situation is a miracle, that we are here conducting this interview right here, god literally had to move a mountain to make this happen. But that mountain would never have moved without dedicated attorneys and uncle sam lockhart. I had people saying the only reason im doing this is because davids my nephew, thats a big reason, absolutely. But i know hes innocent. He didnt do it. And the only thing i knew to do then was continue to fight until we reached the solution that was proper. Narrator finally the david camm case, one that had dominated the news in Southern Indiana for years was over. Your name will be clean again soon, but you know theres still going to be people that are going to point at you and whisper and say thats the guy who got away with killing his fami fami family. If they choose to be ignorant, thats their problem, if they choose to be ignorant and it is a choice. Narrator for those who knew and loved kim, brad and jill, there remains a yearning to know what might have been for the wife and mother, for the two Young Children. No telling what kim might have been, what she could have been, what the kids would be doing. Bradley would be 20 years old, jill would be 17 or 18, graduating high school, we have last all that. David says hell never get over the pain of what happened in that garage that night. The pain becomes a part of you and you live with it. And its an element of who i am. And, you know, how i live my life. On the day of the verdict as a security precaution, sheriffs deputies drove david to a prearranged truck stop and turned him over to his waiting uncle sam. That was the moment he was really free, wasnt it . I think it finally hit him and hit me, like this guy no longer is in shackles, this guy is with me, he is knew ready to go start his life. Grief behind him, grief still with him and heading into who know what is down the road ahead. Me and one man, leaving together, heading home. Reporter thats all for this edition of dateline. Well be back again sunday at 7 00, 6 00 central. And ill see you again tomorrow. Of the week. Deals or how to find big savings on the things you need. Just make a Straight Line to safeway. Youll find huge club card deals perfect for the big game. Pizzas a football favorite. Digiorno pizza is 3. 99. Get your snack on. Wheat thins and other nabisco crackers are just 1. 50 a box. And dreyers ice cream is only 2. 88. Real big deals this week and every week. Only at safeway. Ingredients for life. Nbc bay area news begins with breaking news. Good evening. Thanks for being with us. Im raj mathai. Im jessica aguirre. We understand a person is hurt and a search involved for another individual. George kiriyama joins us live from that scene. Reporter jessica, an active scene here in southeast san jose. Police right here on the scene. Theyre telling me that one person has been taken to the hospital. Theyre actively searching for