Where Kansas City Chiefs So there still are still some some time to do this by the way the life that right now Raiders plus $23.00 and a half. Have a council and I don't think that is good I think the expert how are the picks doing this week Gavin Oh awful Ok there we go that's why I see I'm just lending more credence to to what I was saying one of the earlier games today was a rematch of what we saw just a couple of weeks ago that was the Cleveland Browns going to Pittsburgh this time to face the Steelers in the I don't know what you want to what's what's the rematch that we could call is it swinging helmet Gates is it a brawl gate whatever the case is the Browns and Steelers renewed their rivalry Pittsburgh goes today and gets a 2113 win over Cleveland and I'm watching this game from and I'm realizing what we saw with Freddy kitchen's just a few days ago wearing a t. Shirt that says Pittsburgh started it when I thought. Silly me about the Bronson kind of put all of the shenanigans behind them that they were ready to turn the corner because this was a team that was in playoff contention but to see something as I don't know as silly as a t. Shirt and I know it's fun hahaha but the probs a legitimate Li were in the playoff picture in a game that you have to win with the Pittsburgh Steelers making a change at all of course some guy named Duc and the Hodges and the Cleveland Browns could not get it done today and I just look at the Browns of the difficult thing for me is when you think about the organization that went oh and 16 you would think that a resurgence of that team would be a heartwarming story something that is well received but the Browns have had so many things happen to them or they've done so many things to make their feel good story a feel bad story and today I think was the perfect example of it if you have a rematch in this game Freddy kitchen's wears the t. Shirt to make things I guess stoke the fire a little bit and now they're 5 and 72 games back to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a wild card and essentially put a huge dagger in their playoff hopes and Kyla Murray just was picked off that game is over that one that one is over with for sure. In Arizona 33 nothing extra point coming up but I have no sympathy for the Cleveland Browns and I think there are a lot of people that feel that way as well not only just with the with the hype but from whether it be Baker Mayfield's comments or him you know telling a reporter walking off the podium everything that the Cleveland Browns have done I thought that they turned a corner after the miles Garrett situation because they said we can't do that stuff it's a bad luck in it doesn't seem like it did any good for them today it didn't and immaturity Like I said and discipline this starts where it starts with the head coach he can well the funny shirts you want to make light of whatever situation it happen but you still have to go out and play the game and if your mentality is hahaha. Look at us and joking around and it's been like that the entire season for the for the Cleveland Browns they've underperformed and you would say well they have 5 wins I could that be because of the upgrades did they made across their roster often civilian defense of Lee the momentum that they had last year and the hoping that Baker mates will can take that next step and with all that said they've done none of it. And it seems like the I'm sorry to to cut you all know what they accomplished they felt that they accomplished something by getting to 5 and 6 and it was just like when a couple of weeks ago when they were playing the bills at home and Jarvis Landry got the penalty on the 1st touchdown of the game because of taunting but it felt like that they had accomplished something by scoring on their driving it felt like all right now we've accomplished something because we're $5.00 and $6.00 so we can go back to doing whatever we want to do not run the ball in the 2nd half against the Pittsburgh Steelers after Baker Mayfield cracks his hand on on a helmet at the end of the 1st half like these are the things that you're right it's coaching it just for some reason it doesn't sink in to the Cleveland Browns and it's got to go back to the head coach it does and it starts at the head coach and it finishes at the head coach and obviously this is a team that is going to self-destruct and have been self destructing the whole year they lead leading penalties often deadly and defensively and discipline unsportsmanlike penalties roughing the passer penalties we saw what the fiasco was a week and a half ago so I mean this doesn't surprise me you can't line up against a division opponent and lose to the 3rd string quarterback you can do that. It any point in your season in you look at the roster and you let you look at the names you recognize them and I mean Cohen Right right like Come on James Washington had a breakout day and people were like well who's who's Washington right duck Hodges. Dukkha just beat you to death and the James Washington scores and they've had a bit of a report which is interesting because Washington in recent Rudolph played together at Oklahoma State but now it's dark Hodges and James Washington are the ones that together basically Pittsburgh is like we're going to just throw it up non field and James Washington made an amazing gets for one of their touchdowns but it wasn't there wasn't anything a Pittsburgh was doing that was to make you be like oh we didn't expect that or they fooled us with that I think about this if you were to tell me a team doesn't have their number one quarterback their number 2 receiver that I mean they're number one receiver they're number one. Running a running back they don't have their number 2 quarterback and the 3rd string quarterback his name is duck. It wouldn't matter who they were playing now you would think that's him you have to when you do you would say hey whoever they're playing definitely has the advantage rests absolutely in the Browns were favored they were favored by 2 and a half entering this game there's Pittsburgh So there's a there's a saying that you got to win the game just posed to win and if you're if you're down your entire oftens of staff are your entire oftens of team then you get Yeah you got to win those games and they're not doing that because there aren't discipline. And they really can't get out of their own way. And that's a shame because they have a lot of talent and a lot of people were expecting big including myself were expecting. Big things from them and the division is up in the air to take I mean I mean well outside of skewing the outside of vaults of yeah There's a while they were in the thick of the wildcard Hans All right you beat Pittsburgh you end up winning the season series against them you are both you both are $6.00 and $6.00 so you would have the advantage over them if you were to get to a tiebreaker their other 6 and you know the Raiders may fall the 6 and 6 they lose to the chiefs today were down 21 nothing but you're still in the thick of it in Ephraim what's worse about it is all of the things that had to be going for Cleveland today you then look at their schedule had they still have 2 games against the Bengals and they face the Cardinals they do have a matchup against the Ravens but it's not out of the rubble possibility to think that this team is going to go $3.00 and $1.00 down the stretch if you win this game is a very good opportunity for them to be in the wildcard hunt and they didn't get it done today they abandon the run in the 2nd half this after Baker heard they couldn't get the stops that they needed and now Cleveland is likely to miss the pill playoff Kyle emerges through another interception. Kansas City just scored more points they kicked the field goal so it's still a 3 score game for the Raiders who could go down and score in still maybe stay in this contest with the if the Kansas City Chiefs I'm laughing because I don't know what play the Chargers just tried to run with tie rod Taylor and Philip Rivers but it was a a snap to. Taylor and then Philip Rivers was split out so it was a backwards lateral the Broncos read it so then Philip Rivers just threw it I get to not have run out it was a bad football you know what targets us what type of play it was is terrible football the game in Denver right now is the only competitive game that we've got. At least the from think so I don't think the chance they get the Raiders Raiders could go down in school or they're still going to be some football to be played in Kansas City going to happen Chargers are getting a 1st down in the 3rd and 7 completion to Keenan Allen down to the Broncos 30 yard line but Denver and drew lock a lead l.a. By a score of 7000 to 10 for catches on the day for Keenan Allen for a monster $32.00 yard sign being sarcastic or come to life from the get go Fox Sports Radio Studios 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more on current turns was a guy could account for a free rate quote he from Salaam get him on Twitter at a from Salaam I met Dan buyer on Fox And coming up next we check in with Alex Marvel as an ask him Is this a preview of what can happen in Super Bowl 54 with what we saw in Baltimore today we have to that question next year on Fox Sports Radio. Please call. The coach he's going on the side of. The number 1220 and up that came from. 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To find us want to get your television go to Fox Sports dot com for details. To. Me. This name. As well as on the radio he said. 3 games going on right now but only one of them is a game the Raiders win a lot of the teams to get definitely gold make it 24 nothing and then head upon it back to Kansas City so that means she said the ball up 20 no no no no no no no you don't get the bill out of it now all right it is still a chance right 20 Well if it gets to 31 nothing that's going to be difficult to 27 not having I mean but I'll still say the Raiders have a chance in this one still to be still could be a ballgame because Ephraim they're still 906 left in the 3rd quarter there's an opportunity it's still a 3 story game as the a.f.c. West supremacy is on the line in Kansas City Other than that you can focus on Broncos and chargers right now which is a $17.00 to $10.00 game midway through the 3rd quarter it could be the beginning of the end of Philip Rivers considering out today has gone so far because he hasn't done much to his throne 8 interceptions in 2 and have games it's been a it's been a tough go tough go of it in the Chargers with some slim slim playoff hopes he's even Salaam good amounts would already from slow down by run Fox or net guest is on Twitter and Alex my best joins us every week at this time you can hear him on Sirius x.m. N.f.l. Radio Alex mommas joins us here on Fox Sports redzone radio Hello Alex will be a great Thanksgiving How are you I'm doing great much better than the Oakland Raiders who have been outscored 55 to 3 Ever since they kicked off against the New York Jets last week I'm top of that there wide receiving corps one catch freight yards today represented by state Jones that is it when it comes to receiver production they are quickly fading Unfortunately for Raiders fans out there that's for the Chargers when you do stupid things but they just stayed with a with a pretty good roughing the punter penalty on 4th down hard to win games we're going to put a lot of it on Philip Rivers but let's be honest here this off on 3rd line is not giving Phillip much of a chance to see them I think it's an office without an identity and the defense just hasn't. As dominant as you would hope and that leads to Gus what 4 and 7 to lose on the Broncos Andrew Lock the guy who was compared to a baseball pitcher who could throw the ball really hard but knew no pitches this was during the preseason by his own head coach Rick Sanchez and they're up 1710 well they are facing a team that can only hit a curb can't even hit a curveball so you can you can say that that's maybe the same you're gonna know what's up with the Chargers they're 4 and 7 pretty much out of the playoff picture kind of a kind of a disappointing late set of gains that we've got here Alex but earlier in the day it was anything but with story line there and everywhere what's going to be your biggest take away from the Ravens Niners classic showdown in the rain at Baltimore once one of the 17 Well I think we I think we all realize this could be a Super Bowl 54 preview right I mean it looks efforts just go show that they could handle Lamar Jackson to a point I mean listen Lamar making n.f.l. History right becoming the 41st quarterback ever to have 4 games of 100 or more yards breaking Michael Vick's record an incredible tool threat but you know the 40 niners at speed on defense right and I think that you know the big question is this the 2nd time around when you play when you play the Ravens what's going to happen and I'm referring to you know listen some teams are just not going to be good enough right but it but at the Patriots play the Ravens again what happens a 2nd time around now that they've seen a lot of these concepts and I think the same thing for the San Francisco 49 ers Of course you're not going to see it until potentially the Super Bowl and we'll see if they're able to get that far but I just had a great game you know really and you know comes down to Justin Tuck or at the end the most clutch kicker in the n.f.l. He's the Adam he's the anti-venom Terry at this point unfortunately for the Colts 'd and you know that that's what we get but not of really really fun game great way to start off the day and yes you're right this slate of afternoon games very tricky although I'm wondering to does Sean McVeigh keep Jared Goff in to try to break the norm than Rob Rocklin passing record of like 551 yards in a game because if you did keep him in for 4 quarters and all the way through quite honestly I think the record would follow. Zona Vance Joseph when we talk about coaching changes at the end of the season Ouch watch out might be gone is to say oh we have an interception again the city sure did yeah in the end zone Patrick moms picked off I'm telling you this game is not any way not over Alex. Dance time unlike the Raiders now just telling me I'm not over whatever I want to rewind always back to Thursday and I want to talk about the state of the Dallas Cowboys and that front office in terms of Jason Garrett It's got to be time right what I mean when the killing the season's over I mean look the kicker has less job security than Jason Garrett At this point right because they brought in 3 today apparently they're not going to sign any but Brett Mars' missed 6 of 12 a kicking at home that's not so good as you know in 2 key ones on Thursday so you know we'll see how long he's going to be able to keep his gig but that being said yeah I mean look we all know what's going to end up happening here the big question too is who ends up replacing him right I mean already you've got a whole bunch of names that are out there speculative with what Yuri Jones wants but the question too is the infrastructure of this team a couple questions here do they want to keep telling more is often said coordinator they believe he has a bright future in this position that he's going to grow into it they don't maybe learn to call a few running plays here and there that you've got the talent in the backfield but what they want to go with a defensive coach who's going to agree to the structure where Jerry Jones is so front and center and talking about the team and you know just really basically just is the guy running the organization and so many ways publicly that and ways that he reveals it like his own radio show and things like that and saying things that I'm sure Jason Garrett would prefer to keep in-house So I mean I just think there's a lot of questions about where the Cowboys are headed in the future and if you're Jones you know knowing look it's been 24 years now since the Dallas Cowboys got to a Super Bowl right Super Bowl 30 and that was when he was you know Barry Switzer was there and it was the guys that you meet Johnson had for 24 years he's been trying to win the Super Bowl his way it would be exceptional 4 years ago par sells that isn't really working out all too well you win some games but you haven't been an n.f.c. Title game since the 1095 season Jerry reassess. His role in this organization not sure if you want to do that does the Cowboys they can make change all they want but I'm not sure someone else is going to come in and necessarily do a better job the way this team is set up Alex my friends joining us here on Fox Sports redzone radio he from Salaam I'm Dan buyer rounds of never made it to a Super Bowl they're not going to go this year dropping the 5 and 7 after losing to to Pittsburgh today no not officially out of it but I'm saying pretty much so despite what they have on the on the schedule even when I talked about this earlier in the Freddy kitchen's t. Shirt was was a big point of mine of I thought that they may have turned the corner when it came to maturity after the Myles Garrett incident with Mason Rudolph and then the see the t. Shirt made me think that nothing changed in any from broken down of how do you lose to the 3rd string quarterback on a team that doesn't have a star running back that doesn't have their top wide receiver how much of a setback was it today by losing to Pittsburgh for the Browns and for the kitchen's job status I mean it's huge unless a Stillers players are saying that yes the Pittsburgh started a t. Shirt served as a form of motivation for them but when I look at the Cleveland Browns Ok I just look at a team that was number one in the n.f.l. And penalty yards coming into this game right and you saw a whole bunch of mistakes that were made earlier this season the lack of attention to detail today though I think what you saw as much as anything from the Browns was how John Dorsey himself you know made some big mistakes are general manager and let's not give him a free pass here because he has look he found Patrick Mahoney to get a great job in Kansas City but what he's done with this brown steam it's almost like he went to the desert line before eating his vegetables and when I say that because he got fat and happy on wide receivers right and Odell Beckham Jr and acquiring a living a Vernon but he ignored the office of line along the way and why did the Pittsburgh Steelers win this game today predominantly defense right and that's where they were able to make Baker Mayfield's life miserable and Baker got back to some really bad habits and some sloppiness of delivering the football as the game one folded because he was under so much pressure and I get a great rom. It was out of the left tackle with a concussion but it isn't like Gregg Robinson is all that you know is going to remind people of Joe Thomas either other than the fact you think plays the same position so I just think from the brown standpoint I do believe pretty kids will get another chance to get it right but that being said I think John Dorsey got a look in the mirror himself and got to recalibrate what's going on with this team in the offseason specifically addressing the often sublime and just trying to figure out is pretty good is right man for the job but I do think he gets another year. Fast forward and back to reality watching the that San Francisco Baltimore game. Lamar Jackson what he's able to do against the number one defense in New England at the time the number one defense now against a 49 er's I mean is is there a defense out there that can stop Baltimore from doing exactly what they want whenever they want. You know the question and he from you see it you know because where they cause so much confusion you know with some of the things that it's not so much r.p.o. As much as it is wildcat in some ways but they just get they people don't know where the football is and they're chasing ghosts and that's what you know Eric Weddle said it after the money and I came last week he he didn't know he had mittens one of the best safeties of his generation he didn't know where the football was half the time when he's chasing it so I think that's that's got to be part of it can you also keep this game can you keep the Ravens to long down and distance situations right where you know and that's a weird one too because we're a team that goes forward on 4th down they're not scared so it really changes the way you do things right because the Ravens aren't playing in a 3 down type of attack they're thinking for downs so you may get him on 3rd and 9 but they don't mind they'll go and get 5 yards and then they'll try to pick up the 4 on 4th down right so I think that's something that's a big deal and also can you get into Can it be a team that Quinn to shoot out with the Ravens right is it Kansas City that did beat the Ravens earlier this year can you outscore Baltimore you know and I don't I don't know you know if that's the case they're pretty darn solid on defense in terms of being able to pressure the quarterback we know their back end is very productive with Marcus Peters coming on board although we had a rough game today at times so yeah I mean listen they're formidable let's not forget though right now it's still the New England Patriots that have that edge when it comes to home field advantage throughout the playoffs one of the Patriots went out the rest of the year well the Baltimore Ravens if they met in the playoffs they'd have to head to Foxboro and that's not easy for anybody in update the interception by the Raiders was overturned on appeal replace an area Shady McCoy then took $21.00 yard pitch from Patrick Mo Holmes and is in the end zone so nothing is going right for the Silver and Black now down 3rd in the nothing with an extra point to come Alex Marvin is joining us here on Fox Sports redzone radio even Salaam is giving me a look listen I just know that the rate is you know I didn't overdo it in the way they were Ok Now if you want nothing acknowledged is because the Raiders can't do they can't run the ball now down $32.00. Point thanks let's leave it so let's let's wrap up with this Alex because the Cincinnati Bengals got their 1st win of the season's a day and it was against the New York Jets but what I thought was so interesting was I heard Jack Taylor job rumblings for the 1st time this past week and that if you go in 16 it may not be you may not be around the next year and you go back to Andy Dalton and those rumblings and that move correlated to the new way or is it just the time is right how do you sort out what the Bengals did is they get week number or when number one on the season today I think that Taylor has better job security than you and me to be quite hot really Ok yeah and I say that because and knowing this organization you know as well like I do and I've I was with 25 years ago when I 1st started covering the n.f.l. That was my 1st team to bangles and knowing how Mike Brown thinks there's no way he's making a change after one year remember he was with he was with Dave Shula through 19 and 51. I mean so Carol Green was great for me in fantasy by the way for like a season or 2 so exactly what fantasy football 1st started yeah yeah yeah you know what I'm saying so look at the thing was active it was going to change just trying family had to change me just simply wasn't ready and Zach Taylor knew we needed to try to win some football games and if you don't look as much as we all believe the Bengals are going to draft a quarterback you know with the 1st overall selection or wherever they end up picking in the 2020 draft any Dolphins under contract for another year and there's I think a pretty good chance that he'll be back it's a very team friendly contract when it comes to salary for a quarterback and you buy yourself some time you know if you if you don't think that Joe hots you know the Hodson is a rap star job or rather from the last few tigers if he's your guy or to his own below or whomever you end up picking for that quarterback if you don't think that they're ready to play right away Andy Dalton is a good alternative to have there as a starter doesn't hurt you also potential trade bait along the way as well so I mean look big win for the Bengals but I think an even bigger loss for the New York Jets and you know just makes you wonder what out of cases do it I mean the Bengals were giving up 166. Point 3 rushing yards per game they ran the football 15 times what is that you know I mean they got away from some of the things that they do well having scored 34 straight points in 3 straight games I mean just again it's all such a this is just you know makes you just not believe in the Jets and listen they are not going to have a winning record for the 4th straight year for the 8th time in 9 seasons Jake bad bad bad. That's for youth that's Alex Marvin as get him on Twitter Alex Marv as here on Sirius x.m. N.f.l. Radio will do it again and we 14 Alex thanks thanks Alex thank you gentlemen good insight there on the Zach Taylor stuff because I did hear rumblings in the media you see it on Twitter and all this and Andy Dalton goes back to being the starter which that decision to go to Ryan Finley maybe on the head coach is well bird could be from up above about a let's take a look at this rookie but now you've got a scenario where the Giants are to win team the Bengals are a one win team even if the Giants get the 1st overall pick you from the Bengals are certain quarterback or x. Yes So they'd go chase young likely number one and then the quarterback would be sitting there at number 2 for Cincinnati he's even Salaam Dan buyer this is Fox Sports red zone radio company live from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios Let's get an update on these barn burners from the news desk where David gascón is Hello David a Dan I was checking back in the Box Score and Super Bowl 48 Seahawks Broncos Yes I thought with about 5 minutes to go in that ballgame Denver still had a chance. Of new and Percy Harvin So the opening kickoff in the 2nd half of the us there was there was he was done that was my point yeah I thought the game was over with the high snap and that's not for sale I kid you not I'm dead sure yeah yeah one team came to play in the other team and you know unique story because in the Super Bowls I've been fortunate enough to attend there's auxilary seating they put you in the stands Yeah some Super Bowls we've been in the the last row where the fireworks are the only. Thing behind the lead all the halftime show that's Super Bowl we were put behind the end zone in the 1st level where that play happened right in front of us that's pretty good in all of us and now you see the ball in your oh my goodness but yeah that may have that may have been a precursor net correct me if I'm wrong didn't take you an hour though during the middle the week to go to the press conferences weren't you away from all that stuff that was going on there or there was some stuff here's where those crazy the Broncos met the media that week on a boat in the Hudson River oh boy the worst Yeah this shallowly weird it was like I got seasick interviewing get interfaith and. It wasn't like they said Sam You know it wasn't like they set sail it was docked everybody went on the boat in so when you have a team of football players motioned Yes just starts going it was it was crazy but of all the places in New York let's just do it on a boat docked in the Hudson. For. Old guys that we had 3 games that are going on right now 2 of them are one sided and one of them is in Kansas City shotgun this time for car slam patter got us talking about the 4 I 35 got another siren that's one tornado. Touched down because suddenly oh thank sex for the rookie from Virginia man she's radio network as it stands right now 31 nothing keep in mind Oakland was just a game back in Kansas City and the a.f.c. West chiefs at 7 for the look like are going to go eat in for on the year Meanwhile speaking of boats to get a boat race in Arizona Rams are pounding out the Arizona Cardinals $34.00 nothing colorist on a pick 6 in this ballgame just got off 424 yards passing into tv's down I think you had him on your fantasy team to write me like we both did I said good bye to him and week 8 I did I did not have it off no I didn't you have than I do Russell Wilson but I ended up trading him. Why so well my team wasn't going anywhere but you stockpiling your draft picks for twice the money you spent like the Raiders day . Card let's take the 30 for nothing l.a. And from that let me l.o.l. 8 teams get beaten Denver and now 17 and 10 call in sudden for grabs 74 yards and a couple scores dreadlock in is debut he's got a couple touchdown passes early yawn Meanwhile earlier this today Bengals got their 1st win the season they beat the Jets by 16 points Dolphins shocked the Eagles 37 to 31 Derek cannery 149 yards on the ground 26 touches Titans 3117 over the cold air Rodgers 4 to jump passes pack beat the Giants in New York 3113 Ravens at the buzzer and beat the 40 niners 20 to 17 Baltimore's 18 in a row Browns lose at Pittsburgh by 7 in the n.b.a. Lakers have a 10 game winning streak snapped at home but the Mavericks won 14 to 100 looking dodge it had 27 points 10 dimes and also 9 rebounds in the victory Ok see leads at New Orleans by one San Antonio getting blast right now in Detroit 72 to 59 fellows . Thanks you guys thanks a lot Dave Fox Sports reds on radio he's Ephraim Salaam d.n. Bi I want to ask even moves top 3 teams are in the a.f.c. And I want you to put in order but 1st I gotta let you know that as we come to La from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios it's easy to say 15 percent or more on current events with Geico going to get a good i com or call 809 for 7 out of the only hard part figuring out which way is easier the reason I ask this is I think I know 2 of the teens Ok 2 of the teams that you're going to have in the rankings The question is I'm wondering are curious yeah what order you've got those 2 teams and one was going to be at number 3 right now if you had to take your top 3 teams in the a.f.c. Who would they be starting Ed number one I'm taking the Baltimore Ravens. Team's inability to decipher the cold that is Baltimore is all fenced in one Lamar Jackson is it gives him the upper hand I'll bet whether good weather it doesn't matter this young man is having the special year at number 2 I'm going to put the New England Patriots you say what you want about the lack of weapons did decline of Tom Brady's abilities they still have the best coach in the league and they still manage to find a way even when they're struggling to win a number 3 I'm going to put the Buffalo Bills although there are some inconsistencies at the quarterback position that defense that they have is one of the tops in the league and they're physical they're dominant in that off into line as a physical dominate group and if you didn't know all you have to do as re watch that Dallas Cowboy games that happen on Thanksgiving and you'll see how physically dominant that buffalo often to the line is I'm not saying there are mirror images of each other of each other but I do think that there are a lot of similarities to Baltimore and to Buffalo Yeah and I even think at the quarterback position I know Josh Allen is in this dynamic is Lamar generation but when you see what Buffalo tries to do I think that there are similarities and you talk about the defense I don't think that there they are as far off I mean obviously Buffalo is different than a Kansas City team that we're looking at here and that was kind of why I asked the question as well because you have a Chiefs team that's going to go in for likely with this win over the radio station it's not anybody you know when we when you really get down to and we've seen that with the chiefs before you got to be able to stop somebody because anything can happen on or off into position where you know somebody fumbles in my terms a ball over whatever that is. You gotta have your different roll out there and get you the ball back and actually stop a team from scoring and they can't do that they're playing against an inept Raiders team right now who is shooting itself in the foot with over 11 penalties but when you get into this the playoffs and in the dog days of the season in teams positioning themselves for a good playoff run you're going to have to be able to count on your defense to step up and do something they just don't have it so I can't put them in the top 3 there also could be a scenario where by the end of tonight the Tennessee Titans may be in 1st place in the a.f.c. South of the Texans and up losing to the New England Patriots all the same the Titans a legitimate playoff contender and not only that with the way that they run the ball the way that Ryan Tannehill has been playing crazy Ryan Tannehill is the n.c. . There's the talk about a return. There's there's something happening in Tennessee I know they got the special teams play today but then it was the long touchdown pass by Tannehill after their interception the seal it yes something's going on with the Titans Broncos in charge are still in that $17.00 to $10.00 battle just under way in the 4th quarter the cardinals are in the end zone Kyler Murray a touchdown scamper pulls them to within $28.00 with the extra point coming up and then the Raiders. You know that not. Coming out on the $31.00 nothing to Kansas City is the start of the 4th quarter in. Easy from salami I'm Dan buyer this is Fox Sports red zone radio get you from on Twitter at the from Salaam I met Dan buyer on Fox You can always listen to the show at Fox Sports Radio dot com That's where you can find the Podcast as well coming up next taking is gone in the National Football League We'll explain a little bit more here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's see. We do things the right way and they're all going to jail. 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He's Flomax by how the Dallas Cowboys are performing any Jerry Jones got sucked into all the hyperbole which he helped create most of it regarding the Cowboys of 29 he truly believes that this cowboy team was as good as any other team in the n.f.l. They were with the elite teams in football and they could go blow for blow with anyone in the n.f.l. Unfortunately it's the same old Dallas Cowboys the beef the bad teams they lose to the good teams Dallas is still sitting at the kiddie table for Thanksgiving in the n.f.l. Hierarchy they're not with the grown ups Jerry Jones has been blowing off some steam here the last couple of days with the media it's like therapeutic My theory is it's therapeutic for Jerry to do these interviews and he clearly is intentionally turning up the pressure on Jason Garrett and there's nothing wrong with that I am to be able to freak out about everything you should do it now you have your head ache it is always nice to be public private privately you have a position but publicly if you don't do it well to get the rest of what big bets that. Searching. There's always you can hear the bad valor show week case from 2 am Eastern 11 pm Pacific right here on Fox Sports radio followed by law. Ok coverage will play Travis cherry. For the most money in the history of the sport $110000000.00 guaranteed he is a literally the highest paid player in the history. And all of that has threatened to call. Down around the rain it's not just shot McVeigh who was such a genius that everybody who had a connection to Sean McVeigh got head coaching job it was how quickly everything has fallen apart for the Rams including Todd Turley who the Rams not very long ago paid the highest paid back in the history of the n.f.l. As well girlie has completely disappeared it's coverage with Clay Travis. Box for trade. With this oh the end of the Rams this is not just Ok the Rams season is in the tank because it is because look the Rams now have a huge way to go just to even get to a wildcard but what's really at issue for the Rams is they have really overvalued the players at certain positions Jarrett office still sitting 11 touchdowns to 11 games and you gave him a ton of money when you really don't know is he that good Todd Gurley is clearly not Todd Gurley and defense is not working I don't all the change you make you want wallet for last year changes for this year that's not working I don't see how the Rams get out of it for next year because of all the money they have towards guys but specifically Jericho. You are listening to Jason with my karmic. Box. Sometimes we just gotta take a little. Take that deep breath take a breath relax I'm very relaxed and say yeah we're living our best life yeah. Let's Setterfield the test. Today and. See flooded. Us walk. One last one of your television go to Fox Sports dot com for details. I want. To say. Easy for them by their 3047 games for the Rams knowing he's done more than enough for you have to go in that game I did mention earlier that Travis Cal she had a bit of a look like a hamstring tweaky spines playing the Chiefs are rolling past the Raiders 31 of 3 early in the 4th quarter still in it. Is just been picked off Chargers are going to get the ball to Denver 38 yard line with an 1132 to go in a match up a.f.c. West teams that really don't have a shot at the postseason but tied up at 17 we'll see if the Chargers can cash in and one of our competitive games one of the 3 late games that's actually competitive in week 13 the the story lines today are the Bengals get their 1st win the Niners and Ravens play a classic with Baltimore coming out on top Eagles end up losing to the Miami Dolphins and blowing a 20 point lead there's other teams Tennessee winning it with Indianapolis is it is a big deal but we touched on something last hour that is just to me it's a bigger deal there is no way that the Dolphins were going to go all win 16 although the way that they were outscored at the. Part of the season sure made it look like it the Bengals get their 1st win maybe that's something to build on and when Alex Marva said that Jack Taylor's job was safe in Cincinnati they turn to Andy Dalton and he don't make stick around some more just come see the overall point you can maybe do it in the n.b.a. But you can't really do it in the National Football League it's too long of a season too long of a grind to receive teams that we didn't expect much from today the Redskins go to Carolina beat the Panthers Panthers really didn't have a shot at the postseason anyway but Washington goes and gets a victory so some of these teams that we maybe just threw off at the end playing some football right now I sit every year this is the time end of November December when teams start to separate themselves right teams were pretenders or contenders we start to see them putting games together all year Kansas City's had its ups and downs losing at home things that are here interesting for a team that this is this talented defensive like a sieve you know and now you see him they come out of $3013.00 they're really hammering down on Oakland because they understand Andy Reid understands to hey this is the time for us to really step up and shoal the league and shore sells what we're about the Dallas Cowboys and the Buffalo Bills that played on Thursday right Gnome of these teams who's a pretender who's a contender right we yeah this is the time right this is the time you answer those questions not only to the masses not only to us but to yourself and to your team I thought Buffalo turned from a nice little story to well yeah yeah right they were nice little story when they gave New England all they got him to write but now it's like oh wait a minute. Do we want to play Buffalo you know and there were legitimate questions for the simple fact that you know they did go to Cleveland fell to the Browns and you're like Ok well maybe that's a game if you really were. And to prove yourself of against a team that we thought was was less than them but yeah Thursday was the was the wake up call really if you hadn't been noticed it was a nice story look at look at those nice little Buffalo Bills Ali the bills Mafia jump at their tables now you're like wait we've got to face them in the wild card round they went into Dallas and stomped a hole in them period they physically dominated them up front on both sides of the ball and the all the money they put into that Dallas Cowboys line and that running back and to get embarrassed like that on national television is the most watched Thursday Thanksgiving game since 1992 so than the majority of the country watched you come out as pretenders and not contenders. And that's the Dallas Cowboys season in a nutshell Michael Badgley off the upright no good with his field goal attempt so the Chargers are able to cash in on that turnover staying tight at 17 in Denver between the bolts and Broncos and again the chiefs up 31 to 3 on the Raiders and the Rams try to put out the Cardinals 6 minutes left 34 to 7 let's get to our fantasy leaders for week 13 of the National Football League big thanks to Sam Sam the intern Samantha is going to be leaving this Sunday she's the one that put together these great stats that I get to run down for us so j.t. They need very yes Jets Jets there are no old jets on the sled but there is a. Good big can only beat Jared Goff with 424 yards and 2 touchdowns Robert Woods one of his favorite targets at least the day 13 gets his 172 yards for the Rams my guy what about Ryan Fitzpatrick $365.00 yards for the Dolphins today 3 touchdowns was picked off once but it didn't matter as the Dolphins stopped the Eagles Derek Henry on the ground for the Titans winning in Indianapolis 26 carries 149 yards in the score in a loss to the Ravens Niners I was going was going to calm the beast back bring the monster most xcuse me most carries 146 yards in a touchdown and if Lamar Jackson 16 carries 101 yards on the ground and a score of much of the Redskins victory today against the Panthers various Guyse 10 carries 129 yards into scores the Vontae Parker caught a lot of those Ryan Fitzpatrick passes and 7 catches for 159 yards and 2 touchdowns those are some of your fantasy studs for week 13 in the National Football League and it's starting to be playoff time in fantasy season's weeks more team 15 and 16 if you play in a week 17 league you should quit that's what I'm saying are you doing it wrong or doing it very very wrong he's. Salaam of the empire this is Fox Sports red zone radio get it from on Twitter at you from Salaam I mean at the end by you're on Fox in coming up next we dive into what happened earlier today with what I think is the biggest surprise in week 13 we'll tell you about it next year obvious. Hate spend Mallare great news there's a quick way you could save money switch to Geico all it takes is 15 minutes to find out if you could save 15 percent or more on car insurance and Geico offers coverage for more than just car insurance got a motorcycle guy goes got you covered got an r.v. 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Is a football laboratory where mad geniuses are all the time trying to come up with ways to stop often geniuses in ways to help guys like Sean think they. Are really right now the secret sauce magical licks are that Jackson Gregg Roman and John Harbaugh are bringing to bear each week it doesn't have a good answer well last year we saw a sudden answer emerge in the playoffs with the Chargers went on the road and effectively shut down will Mark Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens to their credit. Company went back to their lab and came up with a new scheme which so far for the most part has not been slowed down and in particular while a lot of our focus is on Jack there are some pretty wild stats out there. That will blow your mind including this one last night against the Rams the Ravens ran the ball $48.00 Monday night they failed to gain yardage on only 3 of those rockets Robert Griffin the 3rd 3 nailed down to the game so while there is a lot of attention on the flash and the dash to get the rest of what Clay said on my search. Always you can hear the coverage with. Big right here on Fox Sports Radio. It's still sad Mellor show that the n.f.l. Does not have a crisis on their hands I'll tell you what's going on here is the n.f.l. Officials are following the playbook believe wants them to follow a lot of dumb Dalton's don't seem to understand basic common sense when it comes to the officials the only reason the n.f.l. Put that Fluke e.z. Pass interference review. Was to appease the crybabies in the by you this was never intended to be more than a token gesture and that is why there have only been 15 reversals of $77.00 pass interference reviews less than 20 percent even no problem 80 percent look like to the naked eye that should be reversed so the league office they're not upset by this is no crisis going on here it's the best Mellor show on Iraq weeknights 2 am Eastern 11 pm Pacific exports I hate to say I told you such a sin no you don't know my karma and now no I don't feel it's I really like to do it you've got 2 friends. And 2 of the best in the business I said but yes that's it and then reside on the Jason Smith show with my carmex weeknights at 10 pm Eastern 7 Pacific. There are 2 words to describe these 2 guys I've said it enough there to give. Not think you're right and this train scene is. 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Easy touchdown Oh walk into to their son final shot shady call on a counter that touchdown and sun set a Chiefs Radio Network they're doing work right now on the Raiders $31.00 of 3 right now is the score there's under 6 minutes to play in regulation Rams 347 the 2 minute warning over the Arizona Cardinals right now in Denver Broncos and chargers 1717 Denver actually led this game 173 at one point to put the bolts came hard charging back and say just scored against they now leads 37 to 3 earlier today since day one for the 1st time today but the New York Jets 22 to 6 dolphins shot the Eagles 3731 on David gascón. This is Spock sports Red Zone radio. Like the place to talk to the head was recapping the early game sweep that you don't know about and bringing you the hits in plays that are going down that much better box Forte's red zone radio we like that's come from the Geico Fox Sports Radio.