Jack Callahan more violence in Virginia a van has driven into a crowd of people in Charlottesville Virginia punctuating a day of protests and cover protests we have a warning this audiotape is disturbing. And sounds come from a video of the crash captured by Brennan Gilmore who was on the scene a car hit a van 3rd vehicle slammed into that car and sped away a number of people have been hurt reports from the scene say those entries ranged from minor to life threatening the time of the people that was battling for her lawyer violence broke out when counter protesters showed up at a White Nationalist rally they punched they kicked and they beat each other with sticks. Paint balls and water bottles also thrown during a Saturday protest in downtown Charlottesville Virginia pitting supporters of white nationalism against counter protesters who. Might want to make up for. The confrontation the latest since the city voted earlier this year to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert e. Lee says Pam proves so President Trump preparing to speak momentarily among other things about the violence in Virginia but he has already tweeted there is no place for this kind of violence in America the president has been talking with world leaders about North Korean tensions of phone call with China's president last night another with France's president came on you'll Microland this morning countries in Asia preparing should North Korea make good on its threat to fire missiles toward Guam Japan deploying several Patriot anti-missile batteries in the event that North Korean missiles fly over its territory prime minister Shinzo Abyei saying same it he'll do what he can to keep people in Japan safe in South Korea residents reportedly stocking up on ready to eat meals and authorities plan to expand nationwide upcoming civil defense through muxes Alister one played fair and balanced. But you can. Do your part to fire adapt. This hour's top story a van has driven into a crowd of people in downtown Charlottesville Virginia during a day of protests and protests between a white nationalist group and other groups who are opposed to their message President Trump is expected to speak shortly about the violence in Virginia from his golf resort in New Jersey a Navy pilot reported on the harmed after ejecting from his f. If deemed fighter jet after an engine problem forced him to crash landed Bahrain's International Airport is objection coming as the plane ran off the end of the runway the cause of that crash is under investigation in another hot spot at least $24.00 people have been killed in post election violence in Kenya according to that country's National Commission on Human Rights a 6 year old girl who ran out. Police firing shots into the air and was hit by a stray bullet demonstrators claim most of the other deaths have occurred because the police there were allegedly using live ammunition. When trying to put growing protests about this week's election results we're interested to who we can you know has been officially declared the winner of the election the opposition claimed the computers holding poll results well hacked and opposition leader Reilly polling has not yet conceded defeat in Jana's But Paul Tilsley folks the parents of an 8 year old Ohio boy who hanged himself from his bunk bed with a necktie are testing the issue of school liability and suicides blamed on bullying the wrongful death lawsuit against Cincinnati Public Schools cites repeated examples of their son and others being bullied at his elementary school but courts have been reluctant to 2nd guess the school administrators Taylor Swift's allegation that a former morning radio host reached under her skirt and grab her backside during a photo session is bringing attention to a common problem judge last night dismissing fire destructors claim against Taylor Swift but there are other issues still to be decided resumes on Monday Jack Callahan watch news radio. 4 Sad night that desperate of the sports field is broadcasting wirelessly to your service. However you like it that you want. That call now. By 3. 5555 your host Pat. Good. Morning. Listen that does little more to be dying that does if you are the we are sports talk radio call in show we're here every Saturday from noon to 2 pm on cam y.c. Radio dot com You can listen to us can y.c. Radio 1410 am 104.3 f.m. Pat doesn't show dot com You can listen to previous shows and stream us live it's great to be here it's a big Saturday we got a lot going on we got a lot of people in studio we got some new faces we want to introduce But we want to start off with the in studio Big Dave's in studio Big Dave what's going on the Welcome back thank you sir for she always being there for me and we got somebody else in the studio we don't see much I don't know that Gaius already the parties in studio gentlemen I'm always here. I'm here in spirit very good welcome back Yes good to be back already back in studio ladies so if you want to start driving over now in 2 hours he will be walking outside to the car there and you can check him out so we have to get to we've got a lot to talk about just the football season it's got to be must be terrible So you're excited beyond belief I'm very excited you guys are Cowboy fans who got some things we got to talk about a little bit too week yeah I'll be going to Cowboys fans. I don't know what I did a previous life to deserve all these Cowboy fans around me I grew up with a cousin that was most of noxious borderline bully evil Cowboy fan and this was an Eagles country so he was that kind of guy he had never probably still hasn't been to oh he's probably a lot of fun how he was lovely to my parents make us all go stay in the basement or but in the basement I'll come up for 3 hours and I'd be down on his and he just at his beck and mercy is 3 years older than me Cowboys fan so I really hate the cowboys not only and then what they did to the Eagles for all those years back just destroyed us he would start playing in the 4th quarter and then Tony Dorsett and then Randy White any White grew up in my neighborhood and then he went to the Cowboys and destroyed us for fricken 10 years he was one of my career counselor great counselor Yeah so you know I got a real hard. Issue with the Cowboys so you Big Dave or Cowboy fans are your Cowboy fans must tell though well we don't know if you're in the show Zach is behind the glass He's an engineer by training he's a radio host he's professional radio unlike you us 3 were just regulars Yeah exactly Zach's a professional he Zach How are you and Joe great today Guys welcome to the show man of course you know when you got we were talking about this for the last couple weeks me coming back here to came I see and when we started talk about this I was more than Ray to jump on board what you guys are doing now is no use we need to training. Somebody you are already just just good at just me we agreed to tell us a little about your career here on Radio your broadcasting career tell us about yourself well I started it came white I believe it was 2007 when I started here was pre. Obama No it was a yeah I was around there was 3 Obama election time so I helped out with a lot of the political shows and over time I was helping out with their show that show and I'm like I finally got offered my own time slot so let me hear from 6 o'clock in the morning help me on the morning show so you know when my show's over 10 o'clock at night which was why sober fun all you did live here yeah I pretty much lived here for 5 years wow very good and then you heard our show you started calling in we started talking we do need some professional help we're just 3 guys that like sports talk radio Leon's on the board today and he's been a huge help but he's got a future ahead of his way beyond the small class box he's in right now having you on board I think is going to help our show a lot oh yeah I'm looking forward to the work and have you ever seen the. Super Bowl trophy case but. Like I haven't heard of already. It's I know the cowboys out of the line marks on the top of it. I know that party time. China already in time bad team got their bad guys Ok I'm just going to go ahead and say it you set a new standard Yeah yeah well he's not a bad guy what's your shirt say by the way my shirts I got my eagle sure yeah the red pretzels are present we got Gerald price band of of your Tolly character as well but you only get reduced sentence if you're beaten up probably. Different different standard So you'd like to talk about today but I do want to talk a little sports talk radio because we're going to be for our 1st break I am a sports talk radio fan obviously Zach is and you guys are 2 and and it's just something we enjoy a lot of people don't talk about like oh this is my hobby I like listeners words talk radio back east it's really a big deal particularly in Philadelphia and that's where I grew up listening to sports talk and it personally it started like 8687 but I remember calling a sports talk radio show in the seventy's after I think was the cowboy Steelers Super Bowl which was just fantastic Super Bowl and I remember calling so it was early in my life so I still listen to Philly sports talk radio and there's a show there it's called the mike Mr Nelly show is from 2 to 6 and he's a former journalist and he's a well established source talk radio host well this and I listen to him regularly and he's sort of my inspiration and my guide for when I do my show. Del parent Dalton passed away this past week and I don't know if you know he is that he was a catcher for the Phillies in 93 when they went to the Super Bowl I heard the story is kind of you know he was people basically remember that Phillies team in 93 faced off against the Blue Jays I believe in what direction they were supposed to win that World Series they were overachieving they would've won the World Series but they should win every World Series every year they were cheating they had to get by the Braves that year yeah I know it was they had Lenny Dykstra and these guys were juiced yet people forget the Braves were one of those teams that were always on television Oh they were the paper or they were always on television because of their t.v. Deal and then they were also very good. Great pitching staff they had clout and how that rotation only got one World Series as economically it is it is probably hitting it's as bad as eagles never get you know don't McNabb never get a Super Bowl it's a waste of time and like the bills there's a lot of teams that should have gotten it but it takes a lot to get over the top and this $93.00 team was a bunch of meat had they were called. Macho row is what their nickname was it was croc horrible Dalton Dykstra Hollins Aizen Reich Pete think of the Ilya if you look up today the word meathead the dictionary just picture will be there yeah so this is a real meathead team and Derek Galt was the catcher he was the leader of the team by all accounts an amazing guy had a lot of issues off the field later drug use maybe some d.v.d. Issues domestic violence issues. Kind of got himself straightened out became a real fan favorite came back to Philadelphia a lot he had brain cancer this is the 3rd Philadelphia Phillies to get brain cancer from the in that era because of this stadium right here the vet just full of toxics 3rd guy to have John Bukvich Pete. Dalton and somebody else died of it and it's just a nightmare so there and had this for a couple years it went away and came back so I guess what I'm getting at is he passed away they spent the whole day talking about their adult and taking calls and what it got I realize is that sports talk can be a community and that's what it was for me because their adult was important me and I got to listen I was you know put my headphones and listen to the podcast and people called in and leave in their memories and they were just it was just time well spent and that's what I want to build here that's what I want to do here I want to build a community everybody listening out of Beale Air Force Base you're invited everybody out Marysville Roseville I know you can hear us in this new time slot we're so excited at Roseville can hear us we want to build a community now we talk national sports we make fun of everybody team we're never all going to be on the same team we're never going to have the same team bus. We like sports we like the guys that play sports we pool for that we don't let us down but they're only human and we're going to give them a break when we can and we're going to call them out when we got to call them out I called out Pete Rose last me last week it's a bridge too far I'm done with the guy it broke my heart I got to move on but there is a sports talk radio community that can be built with some consistency and some openness so I want to invite everybody to the sound of our voice to pick up the phone calls at 877-718-4333 maybe Courtney to advance or you don't call the same time all 5000 or 530-742-5555 we are sports talk radio call in show I got a big Dave in studio got our to the party and Zach has joined us now so we've got plenty of points of you I feel a little outnumbered against 3 or Cowboys fans football season is coming out it's like a freight train and it's going to be a long road for me I'm not real thrilled about my Eagles but so before I move on next topic what do you guys think of that big Dave might my idea about you know building a community well our show is entirely based on The Passion of the people that are calling it I mean we're none of us are experts in this room right so our job just to bring a little bit of perspective to it and our own our own brand of passion and so people who want to call on I mean your opinions are always welcome I think it's right now I'd like it a lot I'm going to do it and we're going to do this with the we're going to do some remotes we're going to meet with the fans we're going to announce who we're going after the shows I mean you know what I'm talking about are you on board with my vision Yeah absolutely I think it's an awesome idea you know to. You guys know me my stats are not very useful Well that's past stats but I know I'm a passionate fan which a lot of people are you know especially younger generation. They're just passionate about their teams and they get behind it I think that's an awesome idea well there's going to be some great things happen I think in local sports over the next few years I mean that's really there's a resurgence of our 2nd to Kings I think that's on head in the right direction and hopefully that will be something that a lot of local sports fans can get behind how well until what happened the other night oh well that's yeah yeah that was it a proud moment. For spring for the teams that I like to follow it has been it's been a rough rough week you know talk about Zach Randolph is her only got trying to make some pocket cash by selling marijuana down in l.a. I just got one question for the guy I mean if if that he retired at 30000000 dollar contract why don't you have somebody else carry your stupid back and yet they did it I mean you don't get it you're brought in to mentor the young players. Are getting busted in l.a. With marijuana what sounded like like a street party to it was not exactly the right kind of environment for the morning I think yeah it wasn't the right environment for to be and they're turning on the police Yeah it sounded like a chaotic situation or and they couldn't let him go but he probably didn't deserve to be let go he probably had it coming don't because he was yapping and they cuffed him and stuff them. It's amazing what these players I mean because you're talking about briefly with the cowboy issues that's been going on since the seventy's I remember watching him in the ninety's where we on last name Newton and those guys were getting busted Yeah you know 70 team was pretty pretty straight Col You know they were there they were straight narrow that that team did not mess around Roger style back and not put up with any crap. I think I think Ronnie White was a little juiced that's for sure but oh yeah he's not a big guy no ninety's Cowboys were they were a mess they were about Jimmy Johnson came in and you know. Tom Landry was the officer that you didn't mess around with Tom Landry that's true and well you got to think when he came over for the University of Miami and the paucity of Miami was Do what you want but make sure you at least make curfew back in the dorm and ate it and when he brought that philosophy to the Cowboys were you already had guys that weren't exactly. Disciplined and Jerry did Jimi didn't really have that quality of parenting players really are professionals Why should you have to parent these guys I mean really what's your what's your at the pressure level you should be able to look after yourself I mean that's your job the rest of us have to do that nor do we just think about it though these are 22 year old kids who are being handed millions of dollars to some handle it some don't you know I mean it's your choice was a grown man and that's what is but that brings Zach again who's 500 years old. Certainly Wretch 36 no reason for this guy to be out behaving like that and it's really a blow to the franchise that trusted him yeah you know and I wonder why and maybe Memphis knew some we didn't know and now they've handed off their problem to us and now he's our problem and it's a you're never clear way back when in Portland those Zach had his issues to start his career so it was just a temper thing yeah I think they compared him to Marcus Cousins added to Dish raise he always played hard yeah of course he played hard on the floor but yeah he ran into some trouble at the court you know in Portland I mean they they were not that whole team was that way you had Rasheed Wallace back then and yet Zach Randolph back then there was a there was about 4 or 5 players in Portland that were not characters they performed well on the floor but almost every one of them ended up somewhere else yeah yeah I can see that well. They got a lot to talk about as excited me back it felt like last week I was like oh this is going to be long summer summer's over man football's back things are moving we've got a lot to talk about we've got a great show ahead of us. In the sports we are a weekly sports talk radio call in show calls at 877-718-4333 or 530742 put the 555 got a full house great show Head of us we'd love to hear from you and we'll get back to it right after these messages. 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Who's going to win the game why why not call 530 support to 550. 2 of the but there's been a 4 feet high impact as when you are the fi we're all in studio today you know these things come and go sometimes one of us is here sometimes 3 of us are here today there's 3 of us I got big day in studio How are you big day I'm doing great good coaster to be back on the show to thank you we appreciate it very much your rock solid it was. Got the office of the art man big daisy our man of sports talk radio is it with that guy that kind of comes kind of goes depends on the way the blogs are but why are you still part of the I love being here it's fun you know we love having it now and we're in traditional back to the show you know exactly appreciate you coming in he's going to be a producer for us he's going to keep things moving and keep our show sound good he's got some great ideas for topics he's an experienced sports talk radio host and a producer and he's had some great ideas about like for instance doing lists I think it's you know yet old and old thing but it's the right idea and called me up so we should do list so what we'll do it will probably come up with a list before the show during the week and welcome him with our list some argue about it. Ok You know listeners West are always good when it comes to going to pull the curtain back when they hear on radio but it's a great time killer and it gets debate going yeah right right right I agree Well before we went to the break we're talking about Zach Randolph who's officially an idiot if you are already how I feel about you knew there was king and I'm not impressed not going to get him not to be nice he's not to be the captain of the team and I'm not impressed man I think you would have been if it hadn't been for that well this isn't his 1st bust with weed either I was doing I was doing a little research on this earth a break and he's had multiple incidents as he punched a teammate during practice one time for all that ribbon Patterson you know God bless him for that but but he visually viciously assaulted robbed a man who was delivering weed to his Portland area mansion reporter who reportedly beat him savagely with pool cues Holy crap it's you know it's bad what do we do or call the cops on your back. That is horrible. I'm not so sorry. To be laughing about that is it with your t.v. I don't know and I don't know I know you're coming back maybe I need to come over and be a Philadelphia Eagles fan and come on she's you know say you wear the shirt you know problem well you know what's good we know that not all of these characters who are fantastic athletes are decent people and that some of them for their becomes their own indiscretions other times it come from bad backgrounds either way that we always have choices about the direction that we take our lives right you know we we all had high expectations for Zach Randolph coming here he's a guy who's a very accomplished player on the court and we all wanted him to be a mentor to these young players in this example as a 1st example when you're coming to Sacramento is it exactly what we were hoping for for a guy that was supposed to develop our players like right like Willie and scout and maybe Harry gyal every Giles and. You know we just would like to see more from a veteran that's coming over here yeah Vince Carter you know you don't hear any problems on him now you know maybe who is going to the captain your team but. Wow already but he'll maybe I think that you might also see. Really yeah I think that you know George Hill Yeah yeah yeah Ok I like that for you kings when you know I will watch the kings and if they're on Intel they're kind of Homer of a color commentator starts talking yeah yeah then I have to move to t.v. But for the most part all watching King's game up there on but the n.b.a. To me is just become. It's become kind of a cataclysm of 2 powerhouses and everybody else is mediocre and to me that God awful boring I mean let's face it the playoffs this year were the lowest rated begin b.a. In many years because we want more yeah poured on conclusion but the finals what they actually had good viewing for for the playoffs this year the for those of us who are fans we didn't like it that much but apparently the finals are going to be one of the highest rated finals we've had a long time yet you want it you want it it's kind of like. And seeing the bad movies before say the new Star Wars comes out you've got to get through all the bad movies to get to the one you really want to see and I think that was kind of the metaphor for this year's playoffs in the n.b.a. And I think it's true we talked about it and I held out hope all year that it was going to turn and it never really did it just really became a foregone Kalu conclusion but I still hold out hope that the season is going to be better I think teams like the Kings are going to are going to start to be followed and it's going to be a lot better I mean there's On the one hand there's fun to watch and the other hand there is winning and I think we're going to see a lot of fun to watch my Sixers included the Kings included Timberwolves included young teams a lot of talent and be fun to watch doesn't mean it's going to change the outcome at the end I actually am excited to see your team play I really hope they come out healthy man yeah I really do I think you know stacked stacked and past Act We got to change erratic don't forget we picked up the yeah pick up the power forward out of Boston you know you got the big 3 it's going to be fun man it's going to a lot of close I mean Johnson right there she goes yeah I mean Johnson same thing with the Kings so it's I'm excited about all that I'm excited about the sports landscape but just when we get started football season starts they go and I don't know why the n.f.l. Does this one of the drop this right now right at the beginning of that where when the n.f.l. Is trying to develop good news they drop the suspension on his e.q. I'll hit a very severe suspension right that not only is a severe suspension according to. John breaches article on n.f.l. C.b.s. Sports. He could be if he screws up again he could be banished from the n.f.l. I mean I saw that yesterday that's always a potential with how this collective bargaining agreement the player personal conduct policy is so that is it's almost just like the fine print in there that if you continue to screw up you can be banned they want to set a different precedent for how they're handling domestic violence because it obviously is a huge huge issue didn't you give a stat a few weeks ago that said the Phillies the only team in the league that does not have somebody on the team that's been accused or charged with domestic violence correct and that's not I mean that need to change we rated for a quarterback out of but Buffalo and I think you had some problems in Florida state there you go I don't know but we want to have a 100 percent you know I know this is a blow to you and your You've got you've got stars all over you got a one on your hat you've got one on your shirt you got one on your arm I think you're all start up what's your take on the suspension. Well if there was the Mexican islands which we've we talked about I mean there should be a severe punishment but with Big Dave saying earlier as well it needs to be across the board because I believe I probably get his name wrong but I think it was Josh Bowen or something like that last year admittedly I did abused mentally and abused my wife well thank God and got one game one day I think he's retired but I couldn't swear I saw it out it was it was what it was on Bleacher Report Yeah right it came through with a bad guy but he got one game you know that's not right that's a consistent big no no and you know consistency is the biggest thing I think that you see the league trying to make to reestablish a precedent that we're going to come down hard on some of the stars just like what they do with Tom Brady and you know so you see another young star they want to set a precedent they don't want you to feel like if you're a star We're going to let you off the hook so you know but they need to be consistent with this but the trouble is that the only problem that I have with what the league is not because I think that if you've if you've done something you should be punished court I don't like the league the league taking a year to come up with some sort of ruling on this I think that they should have acted swiftly last year when I 1st started this investigation if the police took a year to investigate something we'd all be up in arms about it now granted the league doesn't have to prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt they just have to say this doesn't we're not condoning this activity because it's player conduct that we're really looking at here right and. In kewl I mean there are just too many episodes right now I love the guy I do I love the player I don't know that I love the guy at this point because he's just been making mistakes left and right I mean right yes it is where you're in the wrong place and doing the wrong thing I can't say the guy is guilty or innocent of anything because I'm not the judge and I'm not the jury and in this situation but for God's sakes stop screwing around that you've got a huge huge career in front of you right the potential to be a hero to many many people and right now it's another example of a superstar that just doesn't seem to have his head on right and I don't I'm disappointed I'm really disappointed I want to see something better from these guys well I wonder where the team is as far as like like back in him they had a great bonding relationship last year and I don't understand why we haven't heard him maybe stepping in help out tax 2 straight legs you do not get involved in that well just like that because that was Go drink milk cookies I mean that guy seems to be. Yeah blue chip player and Guy right and you know how this stuff goes it's like Troy Aikman in and her yeah you know you know they know Troy knew what was going on you don't want to know as much but I think I think you're running back Emmitt Smith was probably got in a little and said Now I'm out right you know and so is degrees Zach What's your take on your cowboys and this is Ok with this suspension this should be interesting because obviously you're going to appeal it right because that tell it but my only problem with the appealing process has when the news to be a agreement came out is who do you appeal all suspensions to same guy who laid down a sack or his Roger Goodell who you 3rd party yeah obviously not something I was hoping the players would fight for it during the last e.b.a.y. Is we need a 3 person impartial a group you know panel of people to on need to spent and yeah rod. Your gal is basically running around like a dictator in some ways right it comes to being commissioner Well he is it's true and I guess that's where the owners like it I think it's a really good point Zach You know I think the system is set up to fail Yeah because it's kind of whimsical and it's arbitrary it's a very good point about Josh Brown he's a bad guy should he be playing in my opinion and then what they do to Zeke and then what they did to Tom Brady which is just bizarre weird world to tolerate anything when over for what a year and a half Thank you all up and down and I have never heard a player suspension dragged through a legal system like that as well you know what everybody is allowed to try to drag it through a legal system legal system said No you agreed arbitration get the hell out of here yeah it's all and that's when Tom Brady lost that's when he got a suspension so right anybody can take anything to court it just got thrown out of court so they're moving past that I gree with everything everybody said here I think you guys are being very level headed I am glad we had a couple days the cool down before you found out you're going to lose the best running back in the n.f.l. For 6 games your 1st 6 games New York Giants Yeah Broncos Yeah Cardinals Yeah Rams Yeah Packers. Niners Ok it's not what you wanted you're not due back til the Redskins if this if this happens he's not due back til the Redskins guard you guys going to be 2 in 4.2 now. Yeah it's Ok Here here's the thing the Giants started the Giants are an up and down team they have a pretty good off and they're on because you guys Ok you're right Manning this isn't the Patriots he's playing so you I mean just last year they pass one takes the beginning of the year and the Rams come on we're going to say you're like Ok well you could have the ranch you know the Niners I could see was in the Giants I know you're going to lose to the Broncos I know you're going to be really Cardinals I didn't know you could lose to the Packers but I thought the Broncos going to. They're going to show your hand they're going to sack that crowd you've made my voice go to another I came here because Packers and I went through such a blue color quarterback if you come all the way. I think I think you might flip it you lose the Giants you win the Broncos you lose to the Cardinals you win the Rams but how do we lose the cardinals Packers coin flip cards are good team cards are very good to bear I guess who is their core Yeah yeah that's going to be the big you know it is who is the quarterback right you know their quarterbacks like Father Time now oh my God it's coming along with thousands of Carson Palmer You know what. I'm saying every other year because that has a whole thing season yeah this year well that same thing with you I'm adding though to you my batting has a great year what you're going to tell your the next and Matt Ryan to Matt writes another guy that one year he's passed over 4500 yards and 3 touchdowns the next year he comes back and he throws 38 touchdown or 38 interception right you know that's the that's city's game I'm going to bring up to bring up the Patriots under this circumstance so finally talk pretty good suspect last year was supposed to be what 6 games ago reduced to 4 they came out nobody's like what are they going to do without their superstar because let's face it it's a quarterback league the league you know at the least. Spend something go to back up number 2 you at one point back up back up number 3 Yeah and still played well if you're a good team I think you're not sure why game suspensions so that suspension I think they only lost one yet awesome day there are 3 right now and that comes a question with the Patriots system in general is it Tom Brady or if he's that good so he's that good well they've progressed let's white survived it and now right my argument is you guys are not the Patriots by any extent you had a great year last year can you do it again you know I think not most Knicks not. Fight Great often have long Alford Morris in the back we've got what he called a terrible factor McFadden did not really impress me in game. But he rushes on a lot more 100 yards in like 10 games the year before we picked up Zeke right this isn't a bad running back right no no no we've got a better guys back there no not that is not a valuable member of the team in like us but we're not lacking office of weapons and like I always say I can run behind that often said line no problem right if I had. A call yesterday. From the road or. I got it right yet he snapped so hard oh god that was funny Yeah well I think I'm going to sit here and do this all year do you guys make you all worked up I'm not trying to be a troll or a pain in the butt I think the team is kind of chaotic kind of green I thought he had a great road last year I think the league is kind of on to Dak I think we showed the league how to play dac we had a great game against him by me and I think we're going to be able to play I think we showed the league how to play again and I think when you guys are sitting at $6.10 at the end of the year yeah. Yeah but you won't be where you guys a few years ago 3 and 13 right I mean what do you guys talking about I mean you had a good run when he did have a really good lay down in the when the point. This is the beauty of football though especially once we get to pre-season is everybody's ready to annoy somebody as you know next right like the Boxer on Hard Knocks was here and it was like the Bucs are going to be great and everybody's ready to watch the Cowboys fall again because let's face it as many fans as we have oh yeah there's just as many people who hate the cowboys they want to see us go back to a 3 in 13 or yeah right good old days so you know who are the Patriots besides Patriots everybody wants to be compared to them but nobody has the Patriots until they've won their division like 11 out of the last 12 years you know let's face it that team has had a great run so when you watch a thing about in the a.f.c. East who are you competing against the Jets yeah that dollar. Bills right boys how about that a phone call it'll be all right that trade was. You know just look at that see if you go how you talk about the Sammy walking I was blown away by that trade I'm like Oh you mean why did you get rid of Sammy Watkins what was the hurry I'm so proud and I don't regret taking the 3rd round draft pick your hired a guy Buffalo radio station saying they got to 1st 2 seconds 2 thirds next year and that way I know where they're going with it and remember that Taylor's going to pastor who Yeah this is well Jordan Matthews Yeah yeah and it is traded for George Matthews who. Is healed very well when you say no one knows Sammy Watkins who was out last year with the injury Yeah yeah I think he was out the year before when he's had recovery problems it is couple years so far but you know why you give it why you get a bank on potential talent instead of sticking with somebody who has proved himself to be a very solid player right now and Jay Mathews does not replace Sammy Watkins like Zach said he's not a number one no he's not to you're not heartbroken that Matthews of there I'm a little discouraged he was a real safety valve for a young quarterback he found his way open he cannot run after the catch he's kind of you know drop machine sometimes but that being said he's caught a lot of passes Well we're off to the. Here Paul is one of the sports show you give us a call the sports talk radio call in show or every Saturday for new 2 pm we're talking n.f.l. We get back touch a little bit on the n.b.a. Again and probably a little more n.f.l. 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Days open Pad as one of the sports 1410 Am Flight. Welcome back to the show with the 40 we are talking radio call in show we're here every Saturday at 2 pm y.c. 1410 am at 104.3 f.m. You can check us out of Desmond Show dot com if you like to advertise We'd love to have you we're always looking for business partners we like to work together to achieve goals you can see us on Facebook we're on Facebook live right now and said everybody for check in I got big David studio big day yeah and I got out of the party it's a little old There's a party wave at the Facebook live behind the glass Zach thanks again for joining us . To do the show we can't thank you enough he's going to be producing and engineering for us I like to my sports talk radio. Vision includes an engineer that's active that's got some drops does a little pre-production so we got some interviews we got some sound bites those sort of thing Zach said he's up for it he's a very experienced host engineer and producer So Pat does win in the sports he took a big step forward this week I think it's going to work out great yeah I think probably by October have you all talked out of being cowboys fans all 3 of you you know we're going to go for you on that road I got a question for Zach I know his Cowboy fan yes it's a long horn fan Yes it's got a pony on his shirt Ok I wore this today so you because I figure all the other Cowboy fans are going to wear all cowboy gear to this shirt was the only one that was actually clean it might. Still Texas Yeah so you from Texas No actually I spent a lot of time there and a lot of camps there and school and stuff love the state of taxes if no one the more gracious states in America after high school teams could probably play in college football talent and. Now it's just Texas one those states where unless you've been there you don't get it kind of thing there you go I can see that I mean it's like the Dallas airport you will pass by the same. Newspaper stand at least 6 times to get your connecting flight right. Now it's just Texas football in general it's just an amazing turn Yeah I can see that well he's got his s.m.u. Shirt on so yes so that's how we got in studio today ladies and gentlemen it's fun to be back we got everybody here I think football season this this place could be a fun ride guys catch any of the games this past I have not watched much watch the Eagles a little bit you know which nobody cares about but I enjoyed it Carson went to look great. Look terrible 1st preseason game too I mean what are the rosters right now or 82 players or 83 players yet like that right eventually going to be dropped I'm down in like 2 or 3 weeks to 53 right I mean that's you got to play a bunch of guys that are not going to make the team in order to find out whether they've got a shot to be on your practice squad or they're going to be any sort of contributor to the future of your franchise and so yeah there's there's a lot of bad football a lot of players that are what's wrong yeah I was watching a little bit of the the bears die and the rocks and the Broncos the other night and Mike Lennon just threw all the money they handed and then just I think it was in like 2 series alone a pick 6 under the 1st pass Yeah yeah Sol and then a fumble on that I think was a poem that watched on the next series Q quarterback controversy in Chicago Ok but he was playing against guys that were fresh out of you know janitor school yeah yeah there were to some threes twos and threes were oh yeah but yeah it's it is funny when your starter or your supposed starter goes out there and throws up a good as he gets most of the reps during practice during the week yeah well they don't want to put the future on Mitchell travesty in the 1st the 1st game of this year they're hoping to bring him along in a year or 2 they think that he's a talent that's going to change their franchise but they're not thinking that it's in 2017 now they're thinking 280-2090 when the bears a burned their bridges so many times in a draft quarterbacks over the last what 10 years yeah I mean there's a lot. And I mean people talk about the Browns and their quarterback issues and the dolphins were going you know the Bears have done it as well I remember when they were half a good Cutler you know yeah talk about I mean it stunk stunk I'm just saying they had a consistency there for years to stink and now he's what now he's in Miami right right right with that $10000000.00 that he saw before so really I think turning over for 2 year one year I would be surprised he performs you know he get out of that but that's what they said when he left Denver I mean it best you ever looked was in Denver the thing that I saw is the reason why this talk with somebody the other day they said well why in the world would you sign Jay Cutler in Miami when there's a guy like capper tick available and the only thing that I could answer on that one is. Is the often scored major and right that is right Cutler he's familiar with Cutler and if you dial in a guy that doesn't have to learn a system that's one of the few decisions I don't have a problem with I think that kind of makes sense because Gates is there and right now the colors got a lot of game left I don't know but he's just Ok so yeah he's not a guy that looks like using gauge Yeah who saw all that garbage out of this past week when he was like he was answer the questions about I don't want to be a great shape on the court of I'm a quarterback great news is I don't have to be any shape hard to tell whether the guys are great quarterback already you have to be my 4 foot 11. Years ago but you're a little t. Rex arms yeah so 2 handed you can throw it to him yeah I can. Show. Yeah every passer is about I could be the next Doug Flutie Well the n.f.l. Is just a constantly moving target and before we went to the break Big Dave you had mentioned Hard Knocks which is a show the tornado watch I always wind up watching a year later because I don't have h.b.o. I guess I should get up I don't come out of the house man I don't need another channel you know it's great it is it I don't need it I don't need another $20.00 added to my bill exactly the whole thing it's just been like that show a lot yeah and. You tell me that Tampa Bay's already you watched the 1st show of Persia and you know I love the behind the scenes stuff but sometimes I cringe because some guys aren't ready for that sort of close up it's true in most seasons will we was what Atlanta was at that late last night was rammed last year and land in Atlanta the year for that ran when I watched the year that it was manna they did they picked out a couple of potential rising stars right that they were going to they were going to follow like Freeman you know they had him on there they had an office alignment they had a defensive lineman that they were following but then the rest of it was all about the the special teams players and guys that might make the squad as a long shot but how does a good story behind you know they seem like solid guys seemed like they were they have the right motor for making a team in the right direction that they were trying to head and that was a lot of fun this year they come right out of the box and they've got. Big changes Winston they've got the big who is the big defensive tackle for him. Oh the if you temper what is that McCoy Yeah sure old McCoy Yeah Joe we're going to have to be art like 2 little pony tails on top of his head and look at it and see just what the way books had to block or Oh it's amazing the way he'll just shut off the guard to own it so they went with the star sort of the bat The only like also Rand guys the guys that could potentially make the team they showed like the interview with 3 or 4 guys where they call him and it's 1st guy cut and it was literally like you walk on into the coach goes what's inside it's not your fault there's nothing you could've done keep your head up right that was just was like to take a James with back to his his youth where he grew up that and that movie was it and it was it was yeah it was bad it was but was it oh too and he's he's sort of the House he's like yeah this is the part of the house where all the big come in Pete Oh wow well. This was the conversation that was part of the show I watch it and I was I was not very impressed with him away from football and I was very impressed with him in their in their meetings either while the guy is talented but we talked about last year we had a big conversation before Dallas in Tampa Bay played and I said James Weston is a guy that will go and make mistakes he will make mistakes yeah it was an opportunity yeah he reminds me of Brett Farve a lot of ways a guy that will keep you want to game sure but throw his way right he was when you and lose you a game in a matter of slackly Yeah I think that's that's a good point that's very good point one of the I'm just looking up because I want to get this right one of the most amazing things I ever saw on Hard Knocks and there's a lot of because it's real life was when they found pins brought in and cut Vontae Davis. Who is now one of the best players defensive backs in the n.f.l. Right and you know this guy is cutting this dude in Vontae days looks at him goes can I call my grandmother he said yeah you can call anybody you want and I felt so sorry for him and he went out there and he showed the world man and that guy's got paid He's been a pro bowls right I mean that is the sort of thing that's going on on that show that's real that's what sports is it's real life drama right isn't that where we had was a Danny Amendola whatever we had you know we had him we cut him to our practice squad and they and now he's a championship yeah la West always likes to say that there's no bad players in the n.f.l. It's just a matter of if you get the right situation and you get your opportunity every one of these guys is is a store there are some that are better than others obviously but in the long run if you made it to the n.f.l. If you get even invited to a cure you are a phenomenal player Sure absolutely you know these some of these guys just need another year or 2 to develop they really do you might not have the right running if your receiver you might be undersized you might be on a squat how 6 great receivers imagine trying to make the Dallas team as a running back this year yourself direct McFadden Albert Lawrence for Jim Morris they've got the other kid that came out of the Jaguar system that was you know that is set for hard to chart right draft uses a 7th round by the Cowboys as a running back you are just praying that somebody else gets to see you on a preseason game and tries to pick you up there's no chance you'll make this team right now for more I had to bring it up because I want to talk to you guys about last week and that Hall of Fame game yeah to see him come off for defenders in and do a spin move for another 10 yards and it was awesome he was I had to talk about kind of stand I'm Albert Morris you know he's got his legs are fresh. And he could make himself some money right you know within those $4.00 or 5 games he really could because he knows he could come back at the starting ball and he'll be ready to go knowing he was supposedly I was reading. An article where people like maybe put him out on the trade wire Yes I was here not to and I honestly not a bad idea but I wonder affix out of it yeah I don't players on one draft pick you could probably get a 4th round draft pick oh Alford Morris I believe I could say a 3rd Yeah I think a 3rd because a lot of teams don't value the running back early this year changed it because well last year changes because we are coming out he changed when people were starting to draft right back you right before this before you'll came out. 4th or 5th round because if you're here running backs got a shelf life of 3 to 6 years yeah you could find a good one I mean how many guys went in the 1st 2 rounds this year you had cornet cook cook to go to the 2nd room and cook was early 2nd right just before the Eagles they're going to grab them and the Vikings grabbed him a Christian I guess is tearing it up or Cafferty will say look at the other day about getting your man look really good for the Texans what Poorman looks really good for the Texans and I watched him play a lot in college so yeah already come out of the University of Texas. Guys are all shot Watson the other day too I did not know one or 2 about him he played well I was really impressed with the way he read the field really threw the ball well they always talk about his arm straight not being great and his arm straight looked let me go the other day he didn't throw for yourself the field but boy he threw I was mainly in pressure as a guy who played the position the way he said it's feet and read the field yeah that's what you're looking for just a lot of guys who are 1st year quarterbacks not setting their feet correctly when they throw a ball right I noticed that a lot out of the Rams quarterback he's a mess guard off I hate Jared all but work is just terrible thank God they took him 1st we got way about that right oh my god yeah seriously he is a mess seems like it seems like it you know and like seem to better nap but it looks like he's came. Out of Iran and they're going to rebuild his whole. Yeah well he came into it they do actually. They do others and he didn't have a very good outing last year either not last year the year before he did yeah last year when a team Jeff Fisher got fired from member right right after they signed with that huge yeses right. I mean that's why we're never going to run out of stuff to talk about the leagues are crazy oh you know. It's amazing that you can throw that kind of money around and then not worry about it I mean how many how many coaches are still on the payroll for 40 minutes right now oh God you know you're we're still paying Should I tell you guys are paying Chip Kelly I'm not pages well Niners Yeah yeah everybody. Right now they are still under contract at Oregon to. You know they're ready to leave their their practice field after 2 Yeah so well so check back you've been watching some preseason games I have not watched many Dave you caught a couple not all of well I've got almost all by the real game last night I don't watch the chiefs in the 40 niners But yeah I sat I said no more the other day and watched that I watched the Panthers and whoever the heck they were going to talk right yeah because I was talking a little bit about oh to invite you over Yeah Ok are you would you like to go to the bar and party with me you know because you are a part Alas I don't think I'm going there yeah a lot of hotel I get your number after the shot you're way too busy already the party it was because I when I was headed home from work late and I thought you know what there's a football game and I feel like I want to have a beer and so I just stopped at a local restaurant and settled out of the bar and end up having a conversation with another guy that was wearing a Houston Astros shirt so I could be like this year right yeah he's a Texas guy he was talking to the whole talking to the football game was on about how good Texas high school football is that's all he wanted to talk about he says Man those teams are fantastic they're it's imbedded into the culture you know if you don't get into high school football there you just don't belong in this state yes I'm here in Watson Keyser even packed my homes looking good these record homes look terrible deer in headlights last night at 1st t.d. Pass we wanted to get past the gate he did throw a nice little dumper. But for the most part he just looked like a deer in headlights to. Any other nice game but yeah why he did I was he like for a he did. He looked the part but he only had 49 passing yards Yeah but Keyser were that could come out of the door today no he won't make it he said you know he's the one way to get yourself to I can't he said I'm I can do Tom Brady all wrapped up in one like me that sounds familiar Billy Graham with Kaiser is his body looks like if he takes one good hit from a back or he's in the turf he's limping to he looks kind of small and maybe scary skinny do you know right but hey Doug Flutie did it he had the flu flakes. I want you know what you know why is because I watched his 30 for 30 the other day Ok and that guy was actually so hero sure he's a hero candidate he's like repaired is a God I think you could run for president most Canadian problem but. Yeah he's a great guy my for my for everything but the flute is his last play was he kicked a drop kick at that point that they call it I believe it's a drop kick Yeah I can do it when you're when you're when you're over 50 you could drop kick that. We used to drop drop kick your kids man we saw drop kick extra points a field goal it was fun yes man I could drop kick it's pretty good skill Yes an old guy thing yeah how many guys are in the whole thing for traffic and I probably hamstring again I tried dropping. A little thing here that t.j. Want showing up a.j. Little brother he already has 2 sacks but pretty interesting that he's out there he's named. The Pittsburgh t.j. Ok t.j. Well well we've been doing football football football maybe get a little basketball We'll get back to listen to Pat Desmond in the sports feed will be back after these messages. This is a Fox News alert.