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Good morning and welcome to living with your dog I'm sure like Alex's certified animal behavior consultant 1st on the list today are 2 responses to questions from from you the listeners and this one is about creating got extended probiotics are they functional so the abstract here is a program that is a viable microbial dietary supplement that beneficially affects the host through defects in the intestinal tract probiotics are widely used to prepare ferment to dairy products such as yogurt or really dry cultures in the future it may also be found in fermented vegetables inmates several health related effects associated with the intake to program addicts including alleviation of lactose intolerance and immune enhancement have been reported in human studies. Some evidence suggests a role for probiotics in reducing the risk of rotavirus induced diarrhea and colon cancer pre-biotic are non digestible 2 ingredients that benefit of over spice electively stimulating the growth or tablet pity of one or a limited number of bacteria in the colon and work with pre-biotic has been limited and only studies involving the in your limb type counts have generated sufficient data for their evaluation regarding their possible use as functional food ingredients at present claims about reduction of disease risk are only tentative and broader research is needed a minute claims are constipation relief suppression of diarrhea and reduction of the risks of osteo Poroshenko arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease associated with this may be made and insulin resistance obesity and possibly type 2 diabetes and a combination of program addicts and pre-biotic in a symbiotic has not been studied this combination might improve the survival of the bacteria across any other part of the investor intestinal tract thereby and Hansing their effects and a large bowel in addition to their effects might be additive or even synergistic and this is obviously referring to human studies I haven't found anything to gauge that indicates studies for dogs looking pretty good attics are non digestible they are fiber meaning that it's various types of non digestible gluten greedy and that nourish the probiotic bacteria that is found naturally in your dog's got an intestine or added to the appropriate except laments predicts whether given through food or supplements keep the good probiotic bacteria active and selectively stimulate the growth the next unity of a number of bacteria in your dog's colon and improves your pet overall health. Pretty Addicks are found in dog foods because Pediatrics are simply a type of fiber carbohydrate they are already included in dog foods in other food sources that are known to contain soluble fiber such as Reagan's whole grains fruits and vegetables beet pulp is another well known previous commonly used in dog food but care should be taken as some dogs don't profess to be called well this may cause bloating knowledge and flatulence raw garlic toxic to dogs in large amounts and dandelion greens are good sources of pre-biotic. Incidentally again dandelion greens are actually very high in protein and I personally enjoy them in my salad unlike probiotics which according to mention studies have little to no effect when included in dog food pre-biotic for dogs can have the exact same positive effect when they are given through pet foods home in food or in the form of the attic supplement the only thing that matters is the amount of pre-biotic given studies show and I don't know where the studies are that's part of what I consider trying to say that dogs pre-biotic regularly are less likely to get diarrhea caused by the overgrowth of bad bacteria and supposedly or there has been a study with that went back to females during pregnancy and lactation pre-biotic will provide enhanced immune protection to the puppies. Radionics and probiotics go together it's important to note that program attics and greedy attics for dogs form a perfect couple when it comes to improving your canines digestive systems and over all help this in the Arctic relationship means that 2 are working together as closely as they possibly can while spreading and being the good bacteria in the dogs got off and it's good to get both to maintain your dog's proper digestive health when you're thinking of them. This said That said this is not a hard rule and sometimes it's better to skip the pre-biotic statistics only with probiotics and because more about this god or no one probably got a. Program are fragile and easily destroyed in your dog's got pre-biotic very much sturdier because they're actually live organisms with a set of requirements to survive and pairing the 2 May give a better chance for progress got extra survive and actually have some positive effect a dog that just of track is responsible for about 70 percent of its immune system that's why many veterinarians often recommend using both probiotics and previous Addicks for dogs to ensure maximum benefit never 5 in this list are paring pre-biotic can be difficult one of the downsides of probiotics supplementation pre-biotic for dogs is that every bents digestive tract is completely unique and it is delicate and finally balanced in a delicate and finely balanced environment this means we can't be 100 percent sure percent sure which probiotics followed by pre-biotic there's fertilizer to supplement with in the order to get the a desired effect there are hundreds of different species of bacteria in your dog's got. Pre-biotic aren't always beneficial. Based on one matter review study were evidence for the use of pre-biotic for gods was examined and it's clear that we still don't understand the use of the something in it that's well enough to continue however while we do see some benefits there are also reasons when previous Addicks for dogs should be avoided in particular that extend be a bad idea for dogs with gastrointestinal issues this may be confusing because probiotics have been shown in studies to improve that condition yet in theory it's possible that propre biotics and aggravated certain g.i. Related conditions that say many pets today have conditions like irritable bio disease herbal bile and something Miki got small intestinal bacteria overgrowth etc The good to bad bacteria ratio in there that is not in a positive state and the last thing you want to do is be pathogenic bacteria really out actions that would make it worse. This is obviously a that there have been some studies and this is something that your doctor here in back or can explain and prove the odds are technically fiber because they are not and adjustable can also tend classified as a carbohydrate and she says shifts pre-biotic star sugar and sugar fees and other opportunistic bandages in the small intestine and that's where the guts can get much sicker from ingesting pre-biotic. Show obviously there's a lot of confusion here and I don't have any answers and that this was a statement that My dog won't eat. Pre-biotic rich foods pre-biotic rich foods that are high in fiber may not be every pooches favorite snack not only do many dogs find the food an appetizing they're also hard to come by in the average grocery store those who are however lucky enough to usually find it in their dogs enjoy eating at the amount needed to satisfy the dinner requirements are usually too high must remain your dog as the mountains and mountains of say beet pulp to get the health benefits of the addict show I don't think I've claimed anything anybody. You just made his mark if you just you said you don't know how to just post to have the answers. I give appropriate to my dog and he does she does get sauerkraut and that's the Granted one so there you go I mean it's out in the ballpark folks I don't know what to tell you and so you don't use a prebiotic supplement them no I don't but I think that in in for men to. And again. I think that some of the things they're coming by. Naturally meaning if we're giving it a very diversified kind of diet but I just don't have any answers I you know I read the stuff and I come away like ah so did we Yeah well you know you said that the pre-biotic star already in the dog food does that mean the dog feed that dry kibble stuff well if there's beet pulp and a lot of these commercials for roots which I'm not recommending and I wouldn't eat it in my dog so again it's just it's full of confusion and no mention. Associations with dogs but frankly I don't know what kind of stuff taken place and I couldn't find anything except for Karen backers there's action and again that still leaves us up in the air show I hear on your own folks. Well it sounds like you're feeding your dog a healthy raw food diet you will get both the pre-biotic in the probiotic because you said what the small amounts of garlic as we've talked about before is good for your dog and you said that is a prebiotic Well it's you know whatever of s.s. I think that I was asked to come up with some information for it about this and that's the best that I could come up with mirrors a lot of stuff out there but this seemed to be directed better to answering it and it still leaves us with confusion so what is a good resource Kiran Becker We know that yeah and so that's not so we can count on Ok The other question came up a couple of weeks ago was about hot spots. And I have a couple of things to present one is from Dr Gene dogs in the other when I was and I can't remember now underlying causes of hotspots a topic dermatitis behavioral environmental allergens lead bite or other insect bites food sensitivities or intolerances hypothyroidism and this orthopedic problems parasites poor grooming whether wet or dirty skin so let's look at a topic dermatitis as an example a topic dermatitis is written in flame skin caused by a dog's reaction to an environmental allergen or food sensitivity to dogs they tried to self medicate in quotes to relieve the itching sensation by scratching at it that's causing skin trauma that becomes pus filled by a traumatic dermatitis that's the hot spot. Diagnosis testing is important to figure out which bacterial and or fungal strain is infecting the hotspot but that testing only treats the current problem not the potential underlying cause its leaders or other parasites are causing them that's fairly easy to diagnose and treat However recurrent and problematic spots require further testing which includes such conditions as thyroid and other integrated dysfunction food sensitivities in environmental allergens Incidentally when it comes to fire right information in November we're going to have Dr dogs with us and she is a specialist in by Roy disfunction thyroid problems for dogs and if there is a there are a number of huge connections to that and I'm really looking forward to that Ok resistance and primary bacteria staphylococcus issues are doing that made us in hot spot because now acquired methicillin resistant. Show treatment has become more challenging and more expensive remember when you treat with an antibiotic you're not only killing trying to kill or inhibit the bacterium causing the problems but you're also killing and inhibiting growth with a bacterial bacteria on top of that the staphylococcus that I mentioned is come and so so it's always there what we want to do is control and reduce it definitely talk to your veterinarian about alternative treatments and protocols antibiotics are antifungal to control the problem 1st and only resort to antibiotics anti-fungal medications for particularly bad infections and after dad. Says these are accurate elect ran your Lomas or also known as accurately dermatitis their skin lesions that are typically found on the dog's lower limb or flank and are caused by excessive licking the cranial nerves are reddened sickened ard and irritated skin the constant licking causes the womb to become infected with bacteria What is the primary cause it may compel a dog to excessively neck or center spot she got stuck in a spot veterinarian Rod wrote a check of Colorado State University State seasonal or environmental a topic allergen is usually the primary cause he does not rule out a food sensitivity or intolerance as a possible primary cause. Uncommon or rare causes into trouble not a bone or joint pain a foreign body such as a pine needle the feeling of pins and needles might on the infection or behavioral issues such as anxiety many veterinarians believe that behavioral issues are actually a more common cause our Dr Rosie Chuck says that patients that develop accurately granulomas granulomas are due so late to behavioral issues generally that are that have it to be gracious generally examine additional behavior such as phobias tail chasing circling stress obsessive compulsive tendencies separation anxiety or rhythmic barking a common example is the lank shifting behavior of government ventures so yes there can be behavioral issues involved but this is not the highest ranking on probable cause of the hotspots I think that's the point to get there. These behaviors can exacerbate the granuloma caused by something else such as a topic sensitivity I think about it this way let's say you get a pimple and already exist exhibit obsessive compulsive tendencies like constant hand washing now the cause of the pimple is from excess excess seaborne and get thin skin cells getting trapped in the course of the skin however you trying to pop the pimple before it becomes white is a sign of obsessive compulsive behavior so you might be prolonging the light of it and be causing a permanent scar that you love that this might. Get Thanks Dr God Did you know if you behave in the issues other forgot your writing factors may cause a dog to continuously leg or worse and moving them are deep bacterial infections and or ruptured hair follicles. That's acknowledged granulomas are usually mocked multi-factorial they demand a motive prong approach testing the deep tissue of bacterial infections testing for specific bacteria and treating the role taco topically Dr Karen Becker suggests treating the room with better dine twice daily She also listen there are other topical remedies breaking the cycle you can attempt to break the if for the site but the deterrent effect is a topical treatment and a collar and that's of great big ones that fit around and is a beating collar We often hear the worry collar reverting to shock collars no this is you know there's a beef in the collar folks. Lacings or advantage placed on another part of the body to divert drugs adventure delayed mayor I love that one. And I like that someone can help testing for food seasonal environmental sensitivities and we suggest her you know Tristan sensitivity and intolerance test. And that's the other thing that she's going to be talking about when we meet with her in November which is testing for allergies and she has 2 methods. And we're going to be talking about each of them the new Tristan I think is a new testing problem and process that she's got going I think for hypothyroidism and thyroid I guess an association has been established between apparent behavior and by right dysfunction in the dog modifying behavior whether or not your dog is diagnosed with hypothyroidism or thyroiditis you should try to get your dog out and about more because boredom caused by lack of interaction or long periods of and by men can be contributing to the lake cycle veterinarian can prescribe antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications however these are generally undesirable except in so we're refractory cases so I hope that that's more clarification then the previous probiotics information I think that this is not stressing it that Dr Gene doesn't stress in this but I think the one thing that really has to be addressed is fleas. Wonderfully for a dog that has flea allergy dermatitis can get into a panic state of trying to satisfy an itch that cannot be satisfied and working away at a spot like that will bring on a hot spot and this doesn't talk about a topical treatment but I mentioned before you want to clean out that area I want to grin here all the way around it to expose it to the air and whatever you're going to apply to that when the Bene dying or anything else I strongly recommend that you distract the dog paint some you know butter or cream cheese on the refrigerator door give the dog something to chew on while you apply that so they don't immediately go in trying to get off so those are. That's that's the response that I have for the question about about possible. Ok. This is from a serious infection and I just it makes me want to cry but it's also enough that I think maybe the last thing is is better. She says and this is part of a very very long e-mail and I'm only here in your part of it comparing the proteins count of 100 grams of u.s.d.a. United States Department of Agriculture inspected and passed edible chicken to feed graded through chicken we find significant nutritional differences u.s.d.a. Chicken meat and skin raw per 100 grams there is a protein of 18.6 percent dark pro pet food ground chicken appearances fibrous meaty mass comes in frozen blocks milk for 100 grams of protein has dropped down to 10 grams of 18 for the real stuff there is no question about it pet food grade chicken is nutritionally in your inferior to human grade chicken so for federal regulation a pet food animal food is required to include the word imitation. In the product on the list when the food is this and then what is substituted for and resembles another food that is nutritionally inferior to that. This law means that all pet foods using c. Grade ingredients nutritionally inferior are required to be labeled like this and it shows a picture of the package of Beneful and I just get hysterically upset about any time I see a bag of Beneful in a school in a supermarket art it should say with farm raised imitation chicken. I'm serious I would love to see a imitation fundraised chicken that went with that view right now here's the punchline kids the young fortunate thing for millions of us pet owners this is another a lot that is ignored by f.d.a. So that's supposed to be on the package it's not and she said we will be requesting the f.d.a. Enforce these labeling laws should the agency respond it will be shared with you but don't you love with farm raised imitation chicken and one of the things that really bothers me so much about Beneful it gets tremendous blysse And again people are not reading the labels but the bag it has shows these beautiful vegetables the carrots in the green beans and whatever else is in there if you read the label I think you begin to see parents at ingredient number 17 or 18 well hydrated carrots. So that tells you a little bit about the deceived fullness of the packaging and this is something that you just all need to be aware of folks. Would be the same with all of the dog feed that is supposed to say imitation on it but it doesn't if it's not if it is not up to grade if it's not human grade Yes Ok right but it's totally ignore you know it Ok I remember you telling us that before is when we if we're going to feed our dogs dog feed make sure that we find the words human grade on the packaging that's right Ok All right so you have an adult because the little one wants. Now we have another alert from the standpoint of dog eating. If your pet food contains pork or a pork meal ingredient can I make sure you ask the manufacturer of the country of origin of the ingredients this alert is applicable to pet food manufactured anywhere in the world African swine fever is devastating the hog pig industry in China. Experts estimate that these will wipe out about a 3rd of China's production this year or $18000000.00 tons where well $18000000.00 tons of animals be disposed of. I think you may know the answer is probably in pet food ingredient yes we have a telephone call good morning. But I know I. Don't have right now but I have put that. I'm. Feeling. Hot or less so she did respiratory disease. One of the cats and that. So in the sentence you see the diarrhea along with respiratory difficulties and I do not trust Purina at all but they make. 3 by Arctic mix with digestive enzymes called for the flora and this made this little skinny cat begin to gain weight. The diarrhea slowed and. The cat actually got a little chubby. It doesn't always the I think it was the combination of the prebiotics and the. Justice in sometimes that. Made the whole thing work so. You know there there is that I mean Associated Press respiratory disease occurs in both dogs and cats and the symptoms are always different from what I've read. One last thing is. I firmly believe that you can control your cats getting into. Predating upon your local bird population by not letting them out into. The birds have a chance to get their breakfast you know say about not between 839 I left my now and you know not that would we have not had a bird in a while. Just a couple of things I wanted to add to the cat people out there so they do make 4 to 4 for dogs. And it can help my sister has a cat who has irritable bowel and this quest some other measures has this cat live. Thank you so thank you very much for your phone call hearing interesting information interesting about letting the cancer in after feeding time it's also really really important if you're going to let your cat out that it's never out there when the birds are clenching If they're much more likely to be caught and but cats can live happily live happy lives indoors I know they like to be absent they can live very well indoors it just takes a lot more effort on your part to keep them entertained and you know feeding situations and there are different kinds of little than I am Mouse shaped things that you can use to put caps who demand that they have to work getting it out and you can hide the food my dog my daughter's catch she may get a kick out of it having soon dropped into the bath whatever works for. You but thank you for that and I have not actually I must be honest I've never even . But in terms of heartworm in the cat and this is very interesting. Unfortunately our cats regularly don't get to see the vet as often anywhere near as often as with dogs in that you know huge problem they should be in on a regular basis for those health examinations but it's important when you have cats to get them accustomed to carriers show that they're not supremely stressed when you have to put them in a carrier to take them to a vet and they should never be moved in the car because that's a real disaster waiting to happen but get them accustomed to crate and that's not so difficult to do that's a cozy place for hiding on who can be in there and you can work on getting them to the comfortable when the gate is closed and and giving them lots of tasty treats or doing it it's the from thing to consider you heard of the product that she mentioned for the flora. No I'm not familiar with it but I know she and I are in agreement read or have much good to say about here in IP inclined to try and find the product from a different company if I were in that position but I know they have done a couple of good things over the many thousands of other things that are Nasser great but yes. Very interesting information and I really appreciated that phone call and I thank you very much and you can give us a call 29233911 of you have a question comment or concern about your furry friend does not have to be on the topic of the day doesn't even have to be about dogs Charlotte will gladly try to help you with your answer so before we get back to Susan Thicke Sting and the imitation dog feed Do you have a message for sure I do know how did you know the back clairvoyancy I guess right the traitor support for came back from the traitor serving the people of Northern California I mean guy into the Oregon border with just one magazine for over 21 years the traitor to buy sell or trade 123-4034. 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Dislike tells us that regulatory authorities are already aware that China is shipping pork pet food ingredients to the United States the f.d.a. Stated during the actual meeting that the African swine fever to see it cannot be spread to cats or dogs however they also stated little is known about the disease regarded as to whether cats and dogs can or cannot be sickened by African Swine Fever your pet should not be eating a pet food with ingredients sourced from African swine fever diseased animal or any other disease animal show this is an alert from an extension and you have to check I agree with her so they're telling us that dogs or cats can't get it but why would you agree to be diseased animals to your dogs and then it's supposed to be illegal to do that and they're out. And Ok how about gotta sneak a dog when it's feeling food. Ok we have a phone call good morning. I talked to about 2 weeks ago. I was trying to price. How do you do. And I'm having a lot of trouble. And what do you think now. I think we lost you know. Not sure what to do with the computer. Advertisements. The computer. Ok Have you gone to the and the and the dog organizations the deal with these livestock dogs have you gone to one of those breeders or one of those clubs that deal with guardian dogs stuff we could. Get on the computer but my girlfriend. She couldn't find a so I'm wondering if you could just tell us. What site. You're talking in terms of lifestyle guarding dogs right yes Ok Did you try just that livestock guarding dog. That's that's I think where you have to start. And I would find a live sound guarding dog association or livestock guarding dog breeders that you have people that are familiar with these breeds and know how to do it if the the sad thing here is that you bred the dog without having. Perspective owners before the breeding never took place right so that makes it difficult and men these puppies need to be socialized and they need to be handled and they need to be prepared for a new home and I think that that is really important to try and locate the sources of information because these dogs need very particular very special kind of placement they're not the. Typical president yes and with good reason. There are genetic program is such that they're not just a puppy that's going to sit in your lap and be happy and they need to have a job to do and it has to be done well so I think that's the best that I can offer and I'll try to check in later when I get off the air about livestock guarding dog breed clubs and associations but that's where you need to go Ok I'd love to leave my phone number and sit around and I got to be in the house but I hear about them if you can find anything for me to send an e-mail to me. Is the land line with the president so I got my number and if I'm calling about right now whatever you say. Computer time. Ok well maybe Nate can get that information from you and then give it to me Ok thank you very much thank you for calling we're saying we can find out. What your phone number. 68. All right so we're talking in terms of dogs that are sneaky So this is Linda key chase and we have Jim answer science and she is a well known trainer she says chippy are Toller is a terrible food safety of course the use of the word terrible is one of perspective and given his impressive success rate shipping would argue that he is actually a very good food. He's an incredibly sweet looking dog just don't turn your back on your toast or any delicious food and chip is become so proficient at his food theory that our dog brand all know to keep eyes on chippy whenever we celebrate a birthday or have snacks after an evening of training we're often reminded of our now infamous birthday cake incident during which chip and grace an equally talented Aussie friend succeeded in reducing a section of the mirror from this no evidence to be found Suffice it to say we watch t.v. At our house to be as well trained and even though he's famous for eating food he knows he shouldn't when we're not looking as long as we pay attention to him even his own birthday cake I say until we get the word then it's going to disappear fast like many other foods the chip is quite careful and he's delivering decisions. He will steal only when we are not in a room or when we are being entered in inattentive Ok another phone call great day folks Hi. Good morning I wanted to. Take on a question about heartworm medication what I do read about is that if you live in an area. Then you need it and so I guess I want to ask you just from your perspective. Or a letter though there is. And it sounds like it to have and then I also want to ask you about. It's a vaccination if you know anything about that Ok heartworm medication is really something that can be avoided at all in the southern part of the United States because mosquitoes are active all year long in areas where the mosquitoes are not active all year long and I think that has to be I mean has to maintain a temperature of about $55.00 degrees for them to continue to is there I so when you live in an area where we do have like where you are the cool season I don't believe that heartworm medication should be given year round now there are some veterinarians that promote that because there could be a mosquito but the chances are. Better a bit you're saving your dog from too many pesticides if you don't give them a big heartworm preventative all year long and I think it's something you'll have to check your local area but I think it's something like November to April that you don't have to give it and I strongly recommend that you not give it all the time heartworm is is definitely a disease it does take a disease to mosquito to infect the dog dogs that are primarily I was tagged in are not spending a lot of time outdoors at the dinner hour for mosquitoes they're not as exposed for starters so having dogs left outdoors all of the time and makes them far more exposed to being infected so I think that it's important to have the preventative the car Hibernate is if the dogs get heartworm those are worms that will thrive in the heart and your head and that's a very expensive serious difficult program to try and save them at that point so I think that that's important Ok And what was the other question. Part. Oh the part about the nation. What is parvovirus is a very deadly virus that effects the entire digestive tract to the point where the dogs are just shedding blood produces enormous die diarrhea huge diarrhea behind breaks the dogs completely and without very expensive or treatment of having them ripped through it intravenously they can't be saved it is a deadly disease it's very contagious and from what I've read the parvovirus can live in the soil and the ground for a year you're you don't know you're walking around in an area that has if you can bring it into the house isn't that. Part Is it accurate. It can live in. It's a byword. By or it's a virus and the vaccination protocol for puppies varies a little bit but the puppies me a series of vaccinations usually starting at around 8 weeks of age and the reason for the series is we don't know what protection they may have received from the kolache from from the bitch that being nursed at and we don't know and that's going to wear off so that the series of vaccinations is usually every 3 weeks or so starting at around 8 weeks of age and it probably should not end until at least 16 weeks of age when the immune system has developed enough that is totally effective after that got in the puppy series. A conservative approach as a booster so called booster in about one year of age. After that the vets are there are some vets that still promote annual vaccinations wrong for many years now and you will vaccinations have not been advised for many reasons down side reasons everyone 3 years is the protocol that I think every vet school in the United States uses but I don't believe that is the way to go I believe that blood should be drawn and sent to a laboratory to test the blood for the presence of antibodies and of the antibodies are there the vaccinations should not be administered so those come back to nation I heard I remember you having a couple shows talking about the concept. About having the blood being taken 1st to really see if the dog needed these injections or these vaccines are not right and that's called a tiger and the 2 locations that I recommend that the vet send them to because they are know to notably excellent laboratories and their prices are fair is the response in Veterinary School of Medicine and I think it's $26.00 to do that tighter evaluation or Dr Jean died and him a pet and that's I think a $52.00 charge of course you have to pay your veterinarian to draw the blood and lead a reasonable service but if it's more expensive than the vaccinations and she to get the vaccinations but not cheap I know the weight of what it can affect your dog . Right right and it's Ok to do that did you try to I'm just curious what say you're getting like a new dog when you think I'm the only see that you mention the there's the puppy series and then after that and their you know growling and they're getting older one when you think would be. Would it be then like 3 years of age because you're saying you don't have to do any of that every 3 years would be maybe 3 years where I'd want to get the blood to be drawn and maybe do a tiger again you understand my question Ok now we're talking in terms of I would suggest that after the serious puppy shots it's taken place or waiting until the annual a couple of weeks following bath fascination that the tiger be done now Dr dogs may suggest that every 3 years you do the tiger but that's being a very conservative approach so I think that I did not repeat the tiger on my dog I have done it and when I've seen that they're protected and have added granted bodies I've stuck with it because I believe the research that has been done is if they show that they have the antibodies the chances are they are good for life so Ok Ok Right yeah I mentioned Ok yeah this is vital information for me see if I understood that clearly from your perspective after the puppy series like for instance your New You know your newest dog that you got after the puppy series and he waited about you said a couple weeks and he went and got the blood taken and sent in to the tiger to see really what kind of antibodies is in this dog that you have. Rights that I can. That makes sense because then you're actually it makes sense to puppies has gone through the whole series it's grown up a little bit maybe it got some. Support from the colossal and from its mom. And me and then also the re the vaccines. I guess I should maybe research what vaccines really do because it's not like vaccines or antibodies. That vaccine isn't there to create it and to the back genus is supposed to create antibodies collage. It lasted from the mom is only protection for the puppy until it wears off and that's why the series of vaccination vaccines are administered because we just don't know when the bad breaks down but the lesson from the mom is just to protect those babies initially then the vaccines are to create antibodies and we don't know at what point that by the body of the dog is developing a knot and it really needs to be you need to be certain that the series of events genes takes place and it goes through to like 16 weeks of age because that's when the immune system is developed enough to be able to adequately correct to create to and to have those antibodies that they required the buildup is taking place but the immune system isn't developed enough to adequately provide the protection best the reason for the series now if you were to adopt. An adult dog a dog over 4 or 5 months of age or an adult would not need to go through a series because the immune system is adequate I know vets will say you need a series but from what I've read in the past if you have adopted a stray dog a dog Christmas tree is unknown and there are 56 months of age they need one vaccination for are going Iris and Pearl and distemper are the 2 that are really the big ones that are who are back seen generics I don't know that any of that in your area has ever seen a case of distemper but parvo indeed it's after it's almost epidemic in the area of our privilege and read way does that help. Yet really help I mean there's so much detail information there but I am going to leave the show does make sense among that and 16 weeks I mean like it's a brand new job like you guys have as a puppy basically a little over a year or a year and a half. You're doing it Tiger I like your approach like what you do if your dog you did a tiger thing Ok this is my dog now have an adequate and a body to sort of music and just to kind of live that life for the rest of its life . And you do the tiger then and then you can evaluate and see what's going on with the blood and if it does about a good and a body I agree why continue everything years 3 years to get it back seen not only why give your dog just something extra doesn't even need it and it's just efficient all around for your dog your money you're putting everything right but you still you still need to check and evaluate through the blood you know the antibodies and make sure your dog's in the just like it that way so it's been another another another good reason for tigers is the reality is that vaccines are not 100 percent going to protect all dogs there are dogs that fall through the slot so getting a tighter can determine even if your dog was properly vaccinated that the antibodies actually exist in that Dong I have read over the years that right writers for example are difficult to get to the level that they're protected and it I've seen it recommended that if you have a Rottweiler you may have to continue there was part of a virus vaccinations past 5 months of age it's just something that's with the breed so the Tigers will help to make certain that your dog is protected because all dogs get the protection from the vaccinations which is an interesting situation yes thank you yeah thank you so much but I buy them a great questions and great information I just want to is that what she was saying Tiger I want to make sure that we get this correct yes Frelich respelling t. I t. e r t t e r Tight turns. For the blood drawn and I do want to stress also that Parvo is a very it's a very big problem that we here have here in Southern homebuilt in that direction yes it is a huge problem and I think it's you know the heart of the homeless people that are trying to add to their lives and don't get these copies in for protection so they're watching around and it's sick. And the infection is out there and it's rampant and it's a sad situation their hearts are out there for the puppies but the packet isn't there to give the proper protection and it's a dilemma I think that the local vet does offer clinics periodically you may want to check on that it may just be rabies I can't answer that question for you but it's really really important that those puppies get protected and don't take your puppies out on the street until they have had at least 2 of their 3 or 4 vaccinations and I wouldn't take them out at all until they were up and 16 with an aged Now that's socialization problem you've got to get those puppies out and to know all kinds of different locations and seeing all kinds of different people because the window. For socialization is about 16 weeks which is when vaccinations are complete So you've got to get them out there but not walking around on the street in the backyards of friends who have protected dogs out and in with in the car you know if you've got a puppy that small enough but I mean I don't baby carriage procession lighting I mean that have and meet with this beard and it's funny Dale right. Careful be careful all right Ok So that is it we reached the top of the hour in the the end of another episode of living with your dog was sort of the pope's thank you to all of those calls Charlotte love to hear from you and I had some questions for you Charlotte that I'm going to have to ask you next week and if you didn't have a chance to call in and ask Charlotte a question you can e-mail her at anytime her e-mail is the name of the show living with your dog at Katie a new deal or g. So the things that we talked about today we started talking off started talking about prebiotics improved by addicts and. Well we're all going to. Exactly we're all confused some loosies some of the things I wrote down some probiotics are fermented veggies in meats yogurt. Probiotics can reduce health risks some prebiotics are raw garlic but make sure if you're giving your dog garlic you want to only want to give it limited amounts garlic can be poisonous to dogs and dandelion greens I thought that was pretty interesting probiotics are fragile prebiotics are sturdier c. Remember that every digestive track is unique so not one solution for every dog of course if you want to learn more about that you can check out Karen Becker and then from Jean Dodds Dr Jean Dodds we talk about hot spots some of the there's all sorts of different causes for hot spots it could be and insects food allergies poor grooming it could be environmental things like fleas and parasites you know bacterial it's a bacterial fungal strain. See to do the topical you could use topical allergens It's a topical allergen it could be a top college and this one got me kind of confused too obviously. But that also that was from Dr jean dogs and let's see then we were talking about Susan thick skin and the dog feet again. In comparing comparing u.s.d.a. Grade sticking with 1010100 grams has 18.6 percent protein but that stuff that they put in the food the dog feed only has about 10 percent so it's not as good as real fresh raw food and that's a shame that I was just about to get to that yes the law that is not enforced by the f.d.a. States and it's not enforced but it states that the dog feed bags should be saying imitation food on it but it does and annotation share your belief that. So on that note Charlotte thanks for this information do you have any last words for us yes. Don represents all that is best in man and that's why you and Chardonnay. Thanks for sharing. Was a pretty nice John Hiatt song I'll tell you that I had to think Who was that and then I looked up at the computer and I saw the name I recognize the voice I'll tell you this is honky tonk Bill honky tonk state of mind starts right about now it's 10 o one about 54 degrees in red wave or the temperatures are counted down a little bit.