In the mind of God who loves them because it's man was God man would not love me any man would it with 8 and not love those who offend and rebel against him just like the brothers assume that Joseph hated them want to harm them that's held me and thinks of God and that's why God makes these statements just to me and to show to tell them I am not like you when he says things like in numbers 2319 numbers 2319 God is not a man that he should lie neither the Son of man he is repent as you said is surely not do it have you spoken surely not make it good. Or he tells the he tells men seek me he says and Isaiah 556 they say a 556 seeking the Lord while He may be found call you upon him while he is near Let the wicked 1st take his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts and let him return to the Lord and He will have mercy upon him and to our God for He will abundantly pardon for my thoughts are not your thoughts and neither are your ways my way stay at the Lord so here's God speaking to Israel that they should seek Him that they should call out to him that an Israel is is thinking just like Joseph brothers. Why should I seek someone who hates me and wants to harm me and God was saying to Israel that they should repent of their sinful thoughts and return to God in Israel's thinking just like just as brothers why should I return to the person who was one who is going to take revenge on me and so got told Israel that if they just saw him if they would seek Him that they would call out to him that they would for sake there's their lot their thoughts are returned to God God says I'll have mercy and I'll abundantly pardon and Israel's thinking just like justice rather good God help mercy in part because I wouldn't be that way and then god. Explain how he could have mercy and he could have a pardon them and he gives his position and he says look you've got to understand my thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways my ways and that's God saying I'm different from you I'm like I'm not like you I mean I think of mercy and unlike you my ways are forgiveness and it's only when a person really understands this that God is so different from them both in the areas of holiness and mercy and pardon that God is so different from man that only one of me and understands as he got to repent of his sin and he's going to call out to the Lord Jesus to be saved and this is really what made the difference between the 2 that came to the temple one day the fairest sea and the repenting publican because the Thera the fairest he thought that that God was like him that he was like God and the end the publican understood that God was not like him and when the publican when even lift desire was to heaven and and so you get this contrast in Luke 810 Luke 810 words says 2 men went up into the temple to pray the one Affairs the the other Republican the fairest he stood and prayed thus with himself God I thank the that I am not as others are extortioners unjust adulterers even as this publican I fast twice in the week I give ties of all that I possess so that put that person there is the fairest see he sent God I thank you that it were the same you know when to do these terrible things not like him and the publican on the other hand standing afar off in verse 13 Luke 813 and the publican standing afar off would not lift up so much as use eyes and to heaven but smote upon his breast saying God be merciful to me a sinner I tell you that this man went down to his house. Justified rather than the other for every one that exalts himself shall be abased he that helpless so himself shall be exalted this is what the brothers didn't understand the brothers did not understand about Joseph and the Assume that Joseph was just like them and those brothers knew that that it is they they harbored hatred in their hearts they gave a safe harbor as safe harbor to hatred and and it is at the end which they had kept about Joseph ever since Genesis 37 for Genesis 37 for when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren they hated him and could not speak peaceably to him they had been harboring that hatred against Joseph for many years and they didn't have any room in their hearts for a full enough free forgiveness of themselves and and a love for Joseph because they just assume Joseph is like them and and and then you think about that the tragedy of that great loss because you think about all the time that was lost when they could have developed this a wonderful relationship with Joseph but they didn't because they thought it he was like them and we could see in that help me and in any if he has these great losses in his life of all the opportunity to develop a great relationship with God because he thinks God is just like them I mean all the brothers could think about is help their the how how they got to get out of this this vulnerability this danger of Joseph taking revenge on them so they think Oh we know we will use our debt father as a very powerful Mediator now between us and just I mean now that Jacob is dead all they could think of is that is that. Oh boy Joseph is going to be like. Uncle Esau because I was Uncle Esau to them who after Jake up had stolen the birthright uncle Esau said in Genesis 27412741 Esau hated Jake up because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him and Esau said in his heart the days of mourning for my father and he and then will I slay my brother he is the worst of the reverberating in their in their in their minds here and there thinking oh boy we've just finished the days of the morning for our father Jake and now he's going to kill us that's what Jesus said so they're expecting for Joe So just to be like he saw but so therefore they come up with this this this plan here which verse 16 they sent a messenger to Joseph saying vive father did command before he died saying so should you say and it shows forgive I pray thee now the trespass of their brethren and their sin for they did an evil Now we pray they forgive the trespass of the servants of the godly father Joseph wept when his bacon to him So what did they do with all this problem they sent a messenger to just now. I mean why do they do that why do things why do you why do they want what they send a messenger to Joseph and they didn't go themselves what do you think they did that that frame they're just afraid they're afraid and so they send this message was interesting about the messengers not name so so so Ok so that that creates for us a little bit of fun Who do you think that messenger was. Say it. Benjamin you think as Benjamin Yes I think as Benjamin to why it's perfect He's the only full brother to Joe's and all the other brothers were half brothers to Joseph So Benjamin is perfect and so so is he he can't really pull on the heart of Joseph I mean you know and can't you picture this that you picture all the older the brothers you know grab and bench by the scruff as make to me or the look of a kid and you do what we tell you if you know it's good for you and and then they rehearsed this law into his head you know and Benjamin knew it was a lie he knew it wasn't true but he knew it was good for him so he'd better just tell the lie so I mean it's pretty rough to be the youngest in the family right and so and man what a family says anyway so here comes Joseph full brother Benjamin he's telling a lie and and and I wonder if just of could look at Benjamin to tell he was lying in self Ok so tell me what tell me what the brothers told me to tell you until he had to give me this deal so so so banjo we assume was Benjamin he got his lines down perfectly and he starts out by saying the father did command before he died not just these words you know vi father you know that in Joseph is saying to himself Oh brother lay it on the father I mean it isn't he your father also I mean what is this Di father stuff or an answer right off the bat Joseph a started to see through this whole play and the next lines in the spiel are the 5 father did command before he died we can see Joseph say he commanded before he died right I mean who'd Who did he come in and before he died I mean you're saying that my father coming ended that I should do just think forgive you if my father cut me ended before he died that I should do something I spent a lot. I'm with my father before he died don't you think you would have told me you know what I was supposed to do so you expect me to believe that that my father commanded you of something what I was supposed to do and we can see Joseph thinking this whole thing through and and he's listening to this field and he's thinking this this is this is very fishy this stinks and now just of here's the phone in the phony story that his father commanded that he should forgive and he told his brother and that that before he died and the messenger says you know and then the messenger transitions in and verse 17 says all forgiven now forgive I pray thee now the trespass of the servants of the of the God of the father I mean wow what a performance right they should get the Academy Award because 1st he was told that their deceased father had a dying wish that Saint Joseph I prayed the you know and well how could Joseph deny his father the dying wish you know still humming you know and then this field goes on to make this full confession to justify calling what they did it was a trespass the trespass of by brother and then they say it was a sin it was a sin and then they call it the evil that they did to Joe's So you know it was not of this we made a mistake stuff you know and like a new bridge over they had the other night when I asked him if he knew he was a sinner he says Well everyone has sinned you know as I said no no you can stand it so these brothers they really confessed when they called out what they did is the evil that we did to just and then the messenger he brings this this person a quest for give you know and he and then they go on and they say if he says. 17 The request is forgive the trespass of the servants of the eye of the god. Oh that's something they call themselves the servants of the god. Of his father Jake I can imagine Joseph falling off his chair when he heard that one of the servants of the God of the father makes us almost qualified share here the brothers call themselves the servants of the God of Abraham I mean of. Jacob. I mean that reminds me of a time when when our youngest son Joshua it he was little and he did something really bad and I don't remember what it was but he needed to be disciplined and but he went into his room and he shut the door and so you know I came in there and and I opened the door and there were the lights down very low in the room and what is he doing he's needling by the side of the bed in for here. I mean he looked like the picture of George Washington of Valley Forge kneeling and praying I mean there might as well have been a halo over his head he looks so angelic they are praying earnestly praying you know what I thought he should get the Academy Award anyway oh that's what these brothers doing here that's what they're doing it as they call themselves in verse 17 the servants of the God of the father Wow Wow Wow That's Dr. Well you know how could show surprise when I thought how could I you know there's this angelic little boy here I'm going to anyway out to Joseph take vengeance on the servants of the God of the father so the whole story just doesn't make any sense and Joseph sees right through the lies of the father and for one thing. Joseph knew his father knew him better than his brothers knew him and and he Joseph knew that his father didn't have to command because Joseph knew his father just knew that he was going to love his brothers and he was going to forgive them but what's really evident here is how the brothers especially with this messenger business they're really distancing themselves from any close relationship with Joe So I mean the brothers really wanted a close relationship with John with the with the with with just a they would have said Our Father in verse 16 they would have said our father did command in verse 17 it would have said that they were they were the servants of the God of our father not all this die father died father but our father but the brothers they had no intention of healing to what they had in common with Joseph their father they just want to just have to forgive them and and you've got to admit that sending the messenger with this concocted story was pretty ingenious was pretty brilliant you know to try to get just that for to give us pretty pretty good and and using their dead father's the mediator in with us pretty smart but you also got to get it Mitt that by sending a messenger instead of them coming themselves was kind of insulting to Joseph and they were doing I mean you know just it would sit there say what such an important message from my father you couldn't come yourself you've got to send someone else to tell me those kind of insulting and all right so that was their message to justice and now what's justice response I mean how will Joseph answer them what does Joseph give us an answer at the end of verse 17 was Joseph the answer by the at the end of 1st Evan team what is it. He cries he weeps Joseph Webb when they spake unto Him So what was it that was just a stance or that's all he went that's it no words just crying I mean just this research 1st response to them was no words he just cried and that was the strongest message that Joseph could give in reply to them just cried and so the question is what did that reply of crying mean what was the message was sent to the brothers I mean why do you think that Joseph cried when they heard that message I mean why didn't Joseph just say I'll come on boys you expect me to believe that what's next so me the Brooklyn Bridge I mean why do you think that Joseph just cried the death point and that was his way of answering by Christ you know of all the characters in the book of Genesis you know Joseph Weitz the most and we saw him weeping many times you know we saw him when Joseph wept after when such a long time had passed and he and he was the governor of Egypt and finally Caesar's brothers in their company Egypt for food and Genesis 422442248 says and he turned himself about from them and wept and returned to them again commune with him and then went to Joseph wept in Egypt when after such a long time he finally ceased Benjamin in Genesis 4330 Genesis 4335 Joseph made his 1st ballot Your upon his brother your and upon his brother and he sought where to weep and he entered into his chamber and wept there and then when Joseph finally makes himself known to his brothers in Genesis 45 to Genesis 452 he wept aloud in the Egyptians in the House of of Pharaoh heard and then when when he gets close to Benjamin and it is as he wept on Benjamin's neck. 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Ssage came to my mind a few years ago as I stood shivering in the autumn chill at the graveside of Father years the populace go yours he was a young pastor who wants to live in the dynamic messages that stirred the Polish people to overthrow their communist oppressors his theme was always the same the Christian is called to defend the truth and overcome evil with good for the years he was a young man pale and gaunt and his sermons were neither fiery nor eloquent yet his monthly masses dedicated to the victims of communist persecution attracted tens of thousands of Polish people he never preached revenge or revolution he preached the power of good to overcome evil it was a passion that dominated his own life as well in 1900 martial law was declared in Poland tanks and troops clogged the streets until the entire country was one vast prison yours he hated the occupation as much as his countryman but he thought it using God's weapons of overcoming evil with good on Christmas Eve or is a slog through the snow handing out Christmas cookies to the despised soldiers in the streets and even in his death years he was victorious in 1904 he was kidnapped by the secret police the nation was electrified introduces and indeed in factories across Poland people gathered to pray steelworkers demanded his release threatening a national strike 50000 people gathered to hear a tape of his final sermon then the blow fell yours these body had been found floating in the 1st killer river he'd been brutally tortured his eyes and tongue cut out his bones smashed yet the gentle pastor had taught his people well after his funeral hundreds of thousands of Polish people marched through the streets of Warsaw right past the secret police headquarters carrying bene's that read We forgive they were assaulting evil with good and under the impact the communist regime soon crumbled in 1903 I travel to Poland for the Chartering. A prison fellowship potent a ceremony held outside the very church where years he had preached his grave was in the courtyard and as I laid a wreath of flowers on the grave I looked up at the balcony where the market pastor once preached his most powerful message overcome evil with good Suddenly I felt a stab of conviction as though the Holy Spirit was saying to me pick up the baton make that your message to in that instant it was clearly that the message yours he preached has always been God's strategy for overcoming evil the supreme example is the incarnation itself which we celebrate tomorrow the event when God himself entered human history to overcome the evil of the world America is not in the grip of a communist regime as Poland was yet Christians are battling a hostile secular culture and we often wonder how we can fight more effectively the answer is that God's people are to fight evil using God strategy and God's weapons when God wanted to defeat sin his ultimate weapon was the sacrifice of his own son on Christmas Day 2000 years ago the birth of a tiny baby in the obscure village in the Middle East was God's supreme triumph of good over evil the breakpoint Colson in Washington. 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The celebration of Christmas is like welcoming an old friend some place since this time last year this is. The place to Christmas never explore for sinks deeper and forget loves. His gifts are. Infusing your morning with the light of God's word your 2 am 67. 8. 95. And streaming worldwide at 670 calle t.j. Dot com. This is David Jeremiah your teacher on turning point heard weekday mornings at 730 on the mighty 670 k. L. T.t. Please join me now as we honor America with the national anthem Oh. Hello. Slow. Load the. Bullets. The. Load. The slow slow to. Load. A load. The. Closer to. The load. A year 0. 0. A year now more than ever we need to be God's light to this nation in our daily lives this is David Jeremiah May God bless you and God bless America. Welcome to victorious face we believe he will be blessed encouraged and received fresh face to begin your day as he listens to today's message with international missionary and Bible teacher Sherry Campbell. Good morning welcome to Victoria's face I'm Sherri Campbell we have been studying how to be led by the Holy Spirit and that also means how to recognize and know God's void.