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Dot com across her broadcasting God and country station. We hear a lot about what's happening in the White House and why it's so frustrating. But if I think. They really are then so I mean that for 8 years he recalled that he criticized President you're a racist and now if you don't criticize President you're a racist it's it's a very very confusing time obviously with different presidents so it's different people but but nonetheless you know that in terms of going after The Office it sometimes it gets to the point where you don't get the idea that anything good is really happening in the country because one story dominates over everything else not to say you minimize the story obviously with coming out of Charlottesville racial tensions the fact that we are having these conversations again I think it's very helpful please understand though as you look at the way the media is covering this this is not a spontaneous combustion this is carefully choreographed that rally for the all right neo nazi I can't believe these people are still in this country but they are group was 6 months in the planning. It was fairly well known what was going to happen what happens now is that the counter protesters will show up and then the media gets involved I was stunned but then again not surprised to see an organization I can't remember what their full name is I'm not going to give him credit for this but had been contracted by both sides people are saying wait a minute why don't I see black lives matters supporters and k.k.k. Supporters getting off the same bus to go to this protest and nobody was being each other up I mean it's almost like Do you remember the days of the roller derby that they used to show on television maybe they didn't show a nation why they did show in Los Angeles in the l.a. Area when I was growing up and the you had all the skaters out there and you know they were the good guys the Los Angeles t. Birds always wore white and then they had these different other teams that would travel allegedly across the country and you know the bad guys always were black or they were the devils and they were red and you know and you'd cheer and boo like this was really happening like I mean obviously they had to skate they were not going to each other off and calling off the jam but at some point you begin to realize hey wait a minute all these skaters pretty much work for the same organization and some of them are wearing the white jerseys today and some of them are wearing the black jerseys and the issue of racism is not that simply defined in terms of described in how people are going to deal with it but the way it's being played out in the theater of the media right now. Seems to be a lot different than if Americans across country would just sit down talk to each other and start listening and learning as opposed to watching the media narrative which is this group is bad no this group is bad no this group is bad it's like look chances are a lot of those groups are never going to impact you personally and so toward that end it's important to you know take a look at what is actually impacting it it's the same thing with laws in this country it's the same thing with the what's happening with immigration for example the president has I think rightfully so reestablish something that was the rule of law here until 2014 when it comes to immigration up until 2014 we had an immigration policy that still should have had some kind of not a fence necessarily but a gate a point of entry. And Ellis Island if you will for lack of a better term and this is the it's not a Bush or Obama issue this goes back to Bill Clinton back in 1906 when there was a kind of a wiping away of any sort of formal point of entry in a way to crack down on illegal immigration kind of doesn't make a lot of sense but that's the reason in part that we have the situation we have right now then they authorized the building of the wall the wall gets built for 500 miles there's still 1300 miles to go it's not finished in some places it's barbed wire and other places it's really nice and elaborate but it's incomplete and we have no border patrol to check the people who are coming in and going out of the country I mean the reality is though we had a set of checks and balances with regard to illegal immigration and 2014 the White House made a pivot there was an executive order issued that said look we're not going to pays close attention to who's coming in who's going out especially when you consider the number of people who have gone through immigration court. And had been scheduled by the court for deportation how many times have you heard that in the media here's what you hear in the media you hear oh other the Justice Department's going to be not going to your door dragging people out in the middle of the night and you know throwing them in paddy wagons and dropping them off on the other side of the border I mean that's in essence it's like a stop all raids and things like that there are not enough ice and Homeland Security agents to carry that out but when the current administration took office in January the the message was clear we're not going after the 11000000 people who came here illegally and the only crime they've committed since they've been here was the fact that they came here illegally Other than that they're law abiding citizens they're getting jobs some of them are paying taxes of course they're you know siphoning some benefits to but nonetheless Well now the media is in a frenzy and really looking for any story they can possibly find that will make the White House look like the guy in the black cat with a mask on it comes in the night show me your papers were dragging you out and dropping you off and of course what's the story the narrative is always families are being separated I mean who wants to hear that the worst possible news you can get I mean you see the image 3 crying toddlers in the home while mom and dad are dragged away and deported back to God knows where and then the kids wind up in social services and it's just it's a horrible story that nobody wants to hear. Well found a story in Oakland and we can think k.p.a. X. And a case c.b.s. For for the audio here. They kind of typifies where we are in this country because you've heard me banging on my table here for 5 years about immigration reform and the need is for immigration reform and people say yeah immigration reform bill all Ok that's not immigration reform. Immigration reform is what happens when people come here or want to come here and they get stuck in the system and they can't get out of the system now the way this story is presented is very true to the left leaning narrative lovely family been here for over 20 years family mom and dad are going to be separated from children ice is going to give them 90 days to leave the country the countdowns down to 5 days it's a very difficult situation etc etc etc Mom works as a nurse take care of cancer pay pay patients and it's we nursing shortage here in the United States we have to bring in foreign born nurses which every American nurses one in talking about I want you to hear the story and then let's listen and see if we can listen between the lines to find out what's really happening here Tamar if you would cut number one player is facing deportation in just a matter of days after years of trying to obtain legal immigration status I just gave them 90 days to leave the country Jackie Ward has their story into somebody's situation. I would have been a long fight after 23 years of living the American dream and windows essential as manly would be woken up from that dream in 5 days that I always did you know that it was going to go away and. It would be good to eat I don't. Do nothing you know Maria Mendoza Sanchez and her husband is Subiaco have more children they are taking their youngest with them back to Mexico but leaving the rest behind putting 23 year old the any in charge of her 2 younger sisters but her own immigration status is also in jeopardy she's in the United States protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program something President Trump has threatened to take away. Ok so far this is the story you can hear that how it's playing out here it's a narrative President Trump has threatened how many times will you see a story President Trump has threatened the trumpet ministration will threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten and what's here on the left is the left wants protection they're offering protection protection protection protection what President Trump has threatened to do he's actually done it's to reverse the executive order from the Obama administration 2014 back to existing policy that was policy for the 1st 5 years of the Obama administration when President Obama actually his 1st 3 years deported more people who were here illegally than President Bush didn't all 8 years he was in office it's a very subtle dig at the Trump presidency but nonetheless the Subiaco came the United States in 1909 Maria came here in 1902 he became a truck driver she became a nurse over the next nearly 25 years they've bought a home build a life they raised a family you know the story and now they're being ripped apart or are they I mean if we're not careful we'll look at this story and say and we know what's happening here here's a family and they're here but they came here illegally but the now they're being torn apart and if it wasn't for the deferred action the Dream Act Their oldest daughter could stay here and take care of the rest of the family but you know she get deported too and this is really terrible it's awful and you know if you've got you know if you have been deported and you've got over a year of unlawful presence now in the United States you can't come back and you know for 10 years and this is I mean it is a very very tender story but if you hear the root of the story you begin to find out why we need immigration reform so very very badly and that is what we're looking at today here in our God and Country segment of the bottom line. It is important to give George interview I thank you so much for this call 40 dollar donation here to child care worldwide Thank you George for that call at 85532328 getting to the root of the story there are all sorts of problems in Haiti right now and we've seen larger organizations like the American Red Cross come in and try to throw $500000000.00 at these problems and they rebuild 6 homes where the Food Program's going to go nowhere child care worldwide is on the ground in Haiti right now and they've identified I mean you want to talk about the poorest of the poor we can't save everybody in Haiti but there are $125.00 kids in a very very poor section of the poorest country in the world right now who need our help and George has called in a $40.00 donation to help one of those kids a lot of these kids will die from our nutrition before they reach the age of 5 that's a fact a lot of these kids are trying to fight off malnutrition their parents have very little they'll send him to school basically with a weak cup of coffee watered down and the water is really suspicious I mean the water there is not always clean and pure. Well Child Care worldwide has access to clean water and has access to good nutritious food and they can they've got a food program every meal matters right now where they can corporate that program in with where these kids are you have raised enough money to feed these kids 125 of them for 3 months and thank you for that now unexpectedly just out of nowhere God let a donor our way who said I will put up another dollar for dollar match here let's see if we can push the envelope and get us to 5 months so right now George is gifted 805532328 gets us to 9 children who have their extra 2 months worth of food Ok there's 125 kids take 9 away and you know what that means let's get to 116 and we want to count this down now when we I want to get to $110.00 by the end of the program today possibly even down 210-805-5323 extension 28 every dollar you give It's 38 dollars and $0.10 for month every dollar you give is match dollar for dollar to child care worldwide special match in Haiti call today 805532328. Impacting lives for God 12 20 am and 95.3 f.m. . The Bible is a revelation of the mind and will of God to man and in that we learn what God is and who he is all I'm Steve Greg host of the narrow path radio program every week day we open the Bible for discussion and would love to hear your questions comments and concerns about the Bible and about faith Please Join us weekdays from 3 to 4 b.n. Bibble grueling answers to your theology questions the narrow path is live and ready for your participation right here weekdays at 3 pm and always 24 seventh's I'd never do but you know I believe that our children are God country segment bottom line show today we are looking at immigration and this story out of c.b.s. News in Oakland a family in Oakland the of the Sanchez family Mendosa Sanchez family a couple who he came here as Subiaco came here in 1909 Maria came in 1902 they have 4 children their oldest is a 23 year old our name is Vianney Sanchez and she's a graduate of u.c. Santa Cruz and basically she's going to be in charge of her 2 younger sisters actually 3 kids and there's 3 kids that are staying there taking youngest went back to Mexico with them they have been deported and it's a very very sad story and yet. Well go ahead hear the rest of the audio here in the we'll take talk about what the real problem is here because the real problem the media would like you to believe is mean old Donald Trump is ripping these kids away from their parents or kids parents were for their kids but as we will read a little bit more there's another wrinkle in the story that's really important to look at kind of or to the Obama administration had put on an order of supervision which allowed them to stay here even though they had a deportation order the family's lawyer say this case and pay demise is the major difference between how the Obama administration and the trumpet ministration handle immigration has been ministration says that they want good people in that to my family and they don't want that only is that my parents have never ever done anything who criminal convictions Maria and her family say they don't blame ice for this they say they're just pawns of the administration which are and are doing their job or in Oakland Jackie Ward k.p.n.x. Fight the family is said to me was Senator Dianne Feinstein this afternoon but they aren't holding out any hope they've already bought their plane tickets to Mexico now did you catch the part where they talked about the differences in the administration so I'm sure a lot of people said here's the difference in the administration the Obama administration wanted to stay and the Trump administration wants in the Leave this is a classic case though of what really happened and why we're not getting the whole story they were deported they were scheduled for deportation this family had 23 years to get the paperwork together and did not get it for what ever reason and after 23 years of not getting it they had been scheduled for deportation and because of the Dream Act And because of the president's executive order in 2014 they were now on quote unquote supervision brothers and sisters Mary spectrally submit to you regardless of who you like in prison the office of president the the president 44 President 45 supervising someone who scheduled for deportation is not a solution. Now deporting somebody who says they want to be here is not a solution either but here in lies the rub and there's a 3rd part of this story the 3rd part is the family have been your dad's been here since 1909 driving a truck raising a family buying a home living the American dream I understand that when you come from certain countries it's not going to be automatic it's not going to be instantaneous but why on earth was this family able to live like they did I mean I'm a 23 years of living the American Dream How about 28 years my mouth is still pretty good one 192017 I mean come on. The countdown is pretty much over now they will be deported they'll take their youngest with them since they lived here longer than a year they'll be they would be barred from the United States and for your for 10 years so what problem do we have here is the Obama administration will put you on a suspicion of what will watch you will supervise you that's not a solution is the trump administration let's just kick him out because we've got a deportation order well Ok that's the letter of the law but is that going to solve the problem and then do the Mendoza Sanchez family where What's the hold up. Help me understand how you can live here since 1909 and not find your way to the immigration office not find your way to the Department of Homeland Security I understand that people are saying well we're living in fear and we're concerned that this might be a problem and Ok I get that Mr President you have a chance to take away that fear if you want to build a wall find if you want to put more border patrol at the wall fine but for those who are here I'm not suggesting amnesty I'm saying here's the line big red arrow you are here the line starts there there daughter graduated from u.c. Santa Cruz for crying out loud and no one can you know how difficult it is to maneuver through the u.c. System. And she did it. Undocumented. Why is this so difficult yes I'm a pastor yes I want people who want to be here to be here I'm not suggesting mass deportation but why is this so difficult in our immigration system why can't the Department of Homeland Security figure it out to my knowledge the president and the attorney general can unilaterally make the changes Mr Trump Mr Sessions get busy Mr Obama and Mr Holder and Ms Lynch didn't do anything but politicize it George w. Bush didn't do anything to politicize it Congress does nothing but politicize it guys you've got your orders. Please figure this out I mean it's a very very difficult story here but everybody has some kind of responsibility do they not and the media too let's not forget the media here's the headline from c.b.s. Oakland family to be split up by pending deportation after 23 years in the us that's not the whole story how about Oakland family be split up because Dad had been here for 28 years and couldn't find a place to sign up legally to register. How about daughter graduate from u.c. Santa Cruz but somehow the family could negotiate that enrollment and the state could monitor where she was but they couldn't figure it out for the family everybody bears blame in this everybody bears responsibility in this. So when are we going to fix it. As we continue burying blame bearing responsibility blame sounds like such a harsh word have a responsibility Ok how would you like to be new in your job and you come down 1st day of work and you take a look at the department you're supposed to supervise and you realize that it's really in the toilet and you've just got to do something to dump the whole thing flushable thing and that's your recommendation and your company says that's probably a good idea but scaled down this operation and start over again smaller somewhere else how about that. Ok. Well as we continue you're going to hear a man who faced that very situation only that job was not necessarily in the corporate world it was in ministry Michael Spurlock was called to the pastorate and his school church and he was faced with a rather daunting task he was called to a parish that was suffering financially parishes kind of dying off as they say membership had dropped to about 12 people what to do well everybody knew what to do and that was close the church sell the property and take the 12 people and find another place to meet but then God stepped in in a huge way and the end result is now being portrayed next Friday in theaters nationwide in a movie called All Saints starring John Corbett about how God brought some refugees into Smyrna Tennessee. And the Burmans refugees literally transform not only a church but also a village and it's kind of a a reminder to us as Christians that we don't pray that God would you know give us these huge challenges without huge responses but sometimes we just have to let God be God be creative about that Michael Spurlock joins me next to talk about all saints in our fundamentally transforming America segment of the bottom line sharing the Good News of the Gospel k l d c 95.3 f.m. . I've learned so much from the women of America today dory their pain and suffering with me how they were pressured into abortions by boyfriends or parents Alan Parker is looking for true justice it is also the greatest honor I've ever had a model I represent you know I'm a mom and. They are. I refer just that they were. On the brain to America and they recognize their role and they pretend they vote and live for the day that abortion is made illegal and that 3 decades later the issue is still about. Our American. 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But believe transforming America segment of the bottom line show today I'm Roger Marsh join for the segment by a man who has a very very fascinating story and now that fascinating story is being put up on the big screen the movie is called All Saints it is up at the trailers up at the bottom line Show dot com and it is in a remarkable story of a well of a man who moves into ministry who discovers that god he thinks has a calling for his life and then God completely reshuffles the deck once he gets into that calling that man is Michael Spurlock and he joins me here on phone Michael welcome to the bottom line show today there thank you very much glad to be here all the movie is called All Saints as I mentioned and there's a story behind the story here 1st of all this was for you in the ministry world it wasn't necessarily a career path that you'd started in to initially talk about how God led you into the ministry that you have right now. Spent 10 years or more in the publishing industry which I had entered into after college and. That as my stake deepened over the years I have wanted to devote myself full time service to Jesus Christ and. But my wife introducing me into her church when we began dating I've discerned a call to ministry through you know her domination. And became an Episcopal priest Wow that's over and that's that's short version of the longer I was going to say that's a really short version but that's quite a 100 well would it be a 90 degree turn I mean you're working in publishing and you're kind of have a tacit interest in ministry based on your wife and your wife a i m e e but I believe there's a different pronunciation it's an met aimé Ok she's she's really into this your kind of thinking Ok maybe God's leading me a different direction and so it's not every day that someone says a different direction for me is a physical priesthood but that's that's in essence that that's the road that you feel God Calling you. It was the road that presented itself gets by being in the church that was participating in virtue of our marriage I married into the church I would say. And I may and I committed to going to church together right when we 1st met. But it was my call it was really I think Jesus call to me. Give myself over as fully as I could basically what it was and they appeared scribble priesthood just sort of presented itself as the way that that was going to take place. I suppose it could have been if I had been in a different church it would have been ministry and that right in that way back it was all I knew now why I think about from the Book of Esther for such a time as this right I mean God or deigned you know right here you are and so the door opened and and presented itself and your 1st official assignment as an official priest when finishing your seminary training was one that didn't sound terribly glamorous to you and a may talk about that you know that it will it just was what it was for us but I'll tell you a funny story when I was ordained and had been assigned to All Saints my mother in law asked a bishop why he gave me such a crummy job. To be fair. This little church at this point was really not I mean but there are churches that are small I think the average size of churches in America for 80 percent of Churches is like 10250 people there they're not always mega churches but but all saints was kind of in the low end on that pool as well because that's right it had really been not be back on its heels and. Had suffered because of a congregational split and when I arrived they were well before I arrived it was they had 12 people who remained with the church but the time I got there about 6 months later it was up to 20 to 25 So did you call your boss and say look I've doubled the congregation since I got here I don't know it was already double I don't it's Ok because that I was for I'm looking for any sort of positive light so you can go back to the to the priesthood say hey look it was 12 now it's $21.00 so hey do I get credit for the extra you know almost 100 percent increase but here. Not been when but when I ran out of $25.00 we had an $850000.00 mortgage and $10000.00 in the bank and the congregation was contributing about $3000.00 a month in pledge in place and our mortgage payment was $5500.00 a month so we figured we were going to be broke by the end of the year and that's when we decided we needed to sell the church Ok So Michael Spurlock is with me today here on the bottom line I'm Roger Marsh the newly minted as of when the stories beginning here at the end document in the movie All Saints we've got the trailer up at the bottom line Show dot com comes into his 1st preset assignment and there are a lot of pastors a lot of ministry leaders who are listening in on this conversation right now and saying I understand how this works but for for those in the laity there are some economic realities the churches have to deal with in terms of the value of the property how much money is coming in I mean at the end of the day the lights do need to you know the light bill needs to get paid and salaries need to be done with I mean there's a business side of the church that I say I think a lot of times we don't we don't see if you're going in worshipping on Sunday maybe you're part of a mid week thing you've got kids and parenting classes or whatever it is but there you kind of had to walk into this situation and say on the business side of it how are we going to square a $5500.00 mortgage with $3000.00 in monthly contributions we're losing money every month we don't preventing out of money in the bank what are we supposed to do so who made the decision to say it looks like this is the end of the road for All Saints. An initially. I get the math and came to that conclusion I consulted with my bishop about our situation and it was usually agreed that we were that was probably the only option open to us was to sell the church and then try to replant it from scratch without the burdens of property Yeah so we might have rented space like in a storefront for a time was the thought then it was breaking that news to the parish to the to the laity that we didn't see a way forward and. The response to that was in some ways encouraging because they recognise. Actor Cohen financial realities of what I laid before them . And their numbers just didn't add up and. You know we also sort of set before them how many people we thought we would need to bring into the church all that get the month to month payment the expenses of running the church and churches just don't grow that rightly canard or nomination they go out and we thought we would lose that race and so we needed to. Our expenses by cutting our wealth the property was the biggest expense we had and it was an extravagance we couldn't afford Well you were talking about the growth here and I'm talking with Michael Spurlock today here on the bottom line he's an Episcopal priest he was the priest at the All Saints Church and an inspiration to and the situation that they were I mean RINGBACK you had the Congregational split people are moving across the way to the other church all of a sudden you mentioned the whole how do we grow our church in a way that's going to grow so quickly that we're going to be able to make the numbers work as it were that there was no real tangible way that you could put on any sort of evangelism program a certain a sort of outreach program but God's answer came from some refugees from Burma basically early strafe who just happen to show up to talk about these the people who are are this part of the story I think I love I love the most because so many people in the body of Christ are talking so much about the refugee crisis and they would not meeting internationally and what can the church to you basically have the crisis come to you. Right it was like doing foreign mission right there and they're going to say exactly with and in a perfect place to I'm sure you're thinking of us wait we've got 21 people worshipping here we can't make the numbers work we were considering selling the property and all of a sudden God's answer is 70 refugees who just show on the town what was it like for them coming there how did you guys connect. A small group of. Strange they were strangers and they looked like strangers they looked like anybody else in the pews showed up on. I think it was the 1st Sunday after Easter in 2008 and. Asked to speak to me and the 1st person their spokesperson was a young man named a win who figures who are Julian that in the film. Told me who they were which I didn't quite understand they were Karen people k.-r. And they were in groups from. There were political refugees sponsored. For resettlement in the United States by the government so they were here legally and they had a lot of money in the way of food shelter employment transportation medical care etc They had never a right I mean they had nothing but may had I'm not going but they did have some marketable skills. Ok well that was the other thing when it came to employment I said well what it turned out is then there were 65 more of this community that they were represented in and in the world and they wanted and they were also looking for a church to worship Ok What's that all and I'm going on Michael hold that thought for just a moment as we're coming up on a break but it's a great place for Ok so here's the the cliffhanger here these these Burma's refugees show up at this church that struggling in the church is saying we're not to be able to make it and they're here saying we have all these needs but we're Christians and we're also looking for a place to worship So what's God going to do with this mix well we'll leave you on the cliffhanger part for just a moment remind you that I'm talking with Michael Spurlock today here on the bottom line the the African version of this remarkable story is called All Saints It stars John Corbett's the well very well known actor also very Corben has a big part in this movie David Keith and others Shonda pierce the great Christian comedian we've got the trailer up at the bottom line Show dot com How were these Burmese refugees able to not only assimilate into this small town I almost called it a village but it is in Tennessee but not only assimilate but also revitalize a struggling Parish we're going to talk about that as we continue here on the bottom line the all new kale d.c. 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Michael Spurlock is my guest today here on the bottom line I'm Roger Marsh fundamentally transforming America segment of the program you know I get excited about faith based movies and this is a great one we've got the trailer of the bottom line Show dot com The movie is called All Saints It stars John Corbett and very Corben David Keith and Shonda Pierce and others the movie is going to be in theaters I believe August the 25th Michael is that the day this gets a big screen release that's correct that the National really national release for this movie and it's a movie that hits on so many different issues I mean a struggling church a guy like you in a midlife career change becomes an Episcopal priest these berms refugees who just landed in rural Tennessee and don't really have anything and even I mentioned before the break that the fact that I was asking to they have any marketable skills and you were about to explain a little bit more about what they really brought to the table because sometimes it's like well here come these people and they just happen to be able to do something that the town needs but the care and we're really like farmers and things I mean they didn't really have something that everybody in Smyrna said Oh thank the Lord we now have a whole influx of farming people. That ask for help finding jobs and I ask you when to provide me with a list of job skills that each people had so that we could more intelligently think about where we could begin exploring employment for them and I got a list of 65 names that all said Farmer. No no. This isn't this isn't what I was hoping for I was hoping for maybe you can Iker medical or something like that right you get 65 in there and farmers Oh my goodness so what it what and what was the decision from there I mean you want to help these people they need medical attention they need gainful employment they want to worship in your church but they're here they don't know the language and they're farmers. What Lee said is told you when upfront that we or our church was really hurting we were probably going to sell the property. And the church and the building I didn't know how and we didn't we were bereft of any sort of material resources I didn't know how we were going to be of any assistance to them but. For them to come on and we'd figure it all out together so they began attending and we began figuring and out a little bit at a time and we weren't able to engage with them and what I would call a handout ministry we just couldn't get them good or give them clothing or. Things like that but we began to look through the parish for at our people to see what kind of skills they had and turned out we had a man who had taught English as a 2nd language to Asians when he was stationed in Asia during Vietnam. And we had folks who were willing to drive the refugees to doctor's appointments and things like that so we began to be able to help with some transportation issues there to get them to doctors' appointments. Even to do a little bit of community trying to communicate with the doctor on their behalf get their kids enrolled in school. But the English language class became a life skills class because what we realized is. Not only do they need to learn the language but they also need to learn how to navigate the culture and do simple things like opening a bank account how do you do that how do you use an a.t.m. Machine what are what are all these things in the grocery store. What about cleaning supplies that laundry detergent How do you use a washing machine. Just basic things that we take for granted we were able to begin teaching them these sorts of things and that helped immensely one and not only that but i'm time with Michael Spurlock today here on the bottom line about the brand new movie called All Saints which is named for the All Saints church in Smyrna Tennessee that he was basically sent to his 1st assignment as a newly minted a visible priest his 1st assignment was hey the Church is struggling sell the building and. Find a new place to restart the church and then these refugees show up I love the exchange the fact to the here's the congregation you know that's looking for a ministry and looking for an outreach a new town thing into their skills too and saying hey you like the the e.s.l. Teacher what would a phenomenal find something that you would not have necessarily thought as a pastor to or as a priest rather to to pursue but this opportunity came up and isn't it neat how God just started working the your congregation together with the refugees and vice versa. It did not as a new kind of life on both sides of it within both communities I would say the Qur'an began to feel a welcome that they had an experience in the United States. And folks. Folks who were taking a real interest in their lives and that made a big difference I believe and then our parishioners did have skills that they were able to use to serve their neighbors who were in New York. And it just it did it sort of ignited a new kind of life for everybody you know it sounds like it it sounds like it and and so you know the making of the movie now how I mean it's a wonderful story and how many times have you had a conversation with someone about a remarkable thing and say with that make a great movie Well obviously here we are 10 years later talking about this movie with a you know it all star cast here how did that who got this story into the hands of people who could actually turn it into a film. Well there was a newspaper writer in Nashville who wrote an article in the Tennessee and the newspaper in Nashville and a writer from California was back in visiting his parents and I happened to see the article and he was the one that decided that it would make a great story contacted me and then it just took on a wife put on from there but the high. Out of the story and it wasn't just teaching English I think that captured the imagination it was the fact that what we wound up doing is that the church sat on 22 acres of land 17 acres of it or bottom farmland we wound up starting a farm on the church property and that really ignited the new wife in the interest and in the church and that's what began to capture people's imagination what called the newspaper writers imagination that caught the California writers imagination and what really drove drove the interest was a it was because it was a curious and unique ministry. Well it was kind of. It was in speak directly inspired by God you know but it wasn't what anybody was thinking was going to happen down there that's for it that's for sure Michael is with me today here on the bottom line I'm Roger Maher for talking about the movie All Saints which is in theaters August 25th encourage you to go to the bottom line Show dot com and watch the trailer of the movie I was reading an article Michael not too long ago here on the cover of guidepost magazine there with picture of John Corbett and he was talking about his role in in All Saints and I I didn't realize that the faith story for him was so I mean I've seen the pictures I mean sometimes I try to get like a dead ringer and I know you are as handsome as John Corbett and you should be you know American Idol you know that type of thing but I realize I that in this case it looks like the casting for this role was definitely done in terms of you and John having the same heart for ministry I mean not necessarily trying to get the physical appearance the same but but the heart from history talk about what it was like for you to you know to work with some of the actors and see how the story played out on screen. Well you clearly have never seen a picture of me. John told me when we met on the set that he was prepared to shave his head and put on glasses for the role but no you don't have to go that far John now if you'd done that then I could see the resemblance right but I mean I really got right that's right yeah but. But what I did discover in much of the cast that I got to me is that the director whose name is Steve. And I became friends over the many years that it took him to bring this picture to why and what Steve was able to do is pull together a community of cast and crew really had the same kind of heart that my parishioners and the Qur'an had for one another and these were good people who. Sort of got the story on the deeper level the good the level of Christian faith and so I was really grateful I mean I. Don't know what to say about the selection for John other than the fact that he was the right man for the role Yeah because of his heart yeah you can def Yeah you can see that in his performance and and just getting to know you here I can see the characterization you know this is so perfectly done it was a really great move on their part and everybody is just you know spot on in their roles of the movies out August 25th it's called All Saints and it's a movie that I highly recommend and it's been a while I mean we've had a bit of a drought here for Christian movies that I get all excited about this is the 1st one that's kicking off a fall season I think that's going to be a really great time at the box office and as we've mentioned so many times before here on the bottom line opening weekend is so important this is the time to to really make the noise heard and let people know that you're going to see this movie and you're supporting it because Hollywood pays attention to that opening weekend box office and so the more of us who go and buy tickets and say we like this movie that gets Hollywood's attention it happened a couple years ago with war room at the last weekend in August and I'm thinking you can see the same thing with all saints as well and it's the story of Michael Spurlock in the All Saints Episcopal Church into Myrna Tennessee Michael's for like it's been a privilege to have you on the program today thank you God bless you sir from all of us here at the bottom line. Yes And God bless you all too thanks for having me. Such an encouraging story and I think about that what happened in their church a lot now especially I'm working pastoral ministry a lot of churches are dealing with the majority of churches I want to say close to 50 percent of churches in America have $100.00 parishioners or less and there are a lot of pastors pastoral staff we're going through this with our church right now asking Ok this service only get so many people coming to this campus and do we do this style do we not do this style What do we do it's a little more glaring for the smallish church that only has one service and have small congregation and asking the question and often times how do we think that God's going to answer our prayer you know sometimes you take the business approach God answers the prayer that's what Michael Spurlock thought they thought God was saying hey you know what we're going to do we're just going to cut this thing off shut it down we've got enough property here we can sell it make several $100000.00 we will find a place to replant this church of 12 to 20 people depending on who shows up and somebody else can do something with the property would have been one. But then you begin to realize well Ok God might have a different plan here and God's different plan was just weird isn't the 1st time we've seen a lot of times it's great for you know it's a hey there's starvation and God says fill these jugs with oil while there's nothing there you know I mean I think you're going to have Food Trust me make a cake and then you were Ok I. God does interesting and creative things the solution for this church the All Saints church in Smyrna was 69 refugees from Burma with no really marketable job skills but the church had property and they had a desire to learn and live there and look what he did not just because it's an entertaining movie but I hope you'll go see it next Friday planned now you can plan today saying on Friday August 25th this movie will be in theaters and we are going to go see it. The movie All Saints starring John Corbett very Corwin's in it if you like One Tree Hill you'll recognize him and a host of others David Keith from Officer developments in this movie too highly recommended and we've got a link for the trailer at the bottom line Show dot com Some final thoughts on when God shows up in a rather unusual way coming up you're listening to the fundamentally transforming America segment of the bottom line encouraging messages of praise to get you through the day k l d c 95.3 f.m. And on the web at k.l. D.c. 1220. 3rd challenge African-American girl 6 years old. Now in an Amber Alert is issued you can get the same information the authorities get right on your cell phone sign up for free at wireless Amber Alerts dot org think of it something as simple as a free text message could free an abducted child I unit Amber Alert can be covered Thankfully it is in the wireless Amber Alerts dot org a child is calling for help brought to you by the Ad Council. 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Are even came from Burma to Smyrna Tennessee and begin to work the land was kind of the reverse of what we often think about in terms of mission work times we think of the American group going into Burma and doing the relief organization for example childcare worldwide is in is in Haiti right now they're well they're world wide literally but Haiti is the place that they're putting their focus on and I want to thank the anonymous donor who just called in with a 100 dollar gift at 805532328 they are currently working right now they work in small groups and they work with small groups this is not one of those you give $50.00 and we will tell you it's going to feed thousands of children we found $125.00 kids in an area with the where the kids are the poorest of the poor where their parents have very little to work with and and and trust me it's not through neglect these parents are doing the best they can but this is one of the if not the poorest country in the world and this is one of the poorest sections of the poorest country in the world so when in a country in a region of a country where a cup of coffee passes for a meal just the caffeine just to keep you going little bit of liquid keeping hydrated and the water isn't always the cleanest around childcare worldwide goes and says clean water we can do that nutritious meals we can do that too we have been able to raise over the past couple weeks and if money to feed these kids for 3 months 125 kids 3 months thanks to you and God working through you. Now unexpectedly a donor has stepped up and said we will continue this matching fund George in Irvine called Earlier I mentioned Gloria and Brant which is called in with a $100.00 donation It's 38 dollars and 10 cents to feed one of these kids for a month there's a dollar for dollar match so instead of just stopping with 3 months worth of food we're going to extend it to 5 months worth of food and here's how it works you call Child Care worldwide 805532328 give a $38.10 cent gift that takes care of one month's worth of food and then the donor match comes in and that takes care of the 2nd so what a great deal you can feed a child in Haiti for 2 months for 38 dollars and 10 cents 805532328 I mentioned George calling in that $40.00 donation Arlin Anelka home called in a $40.00 donation earlier Gloria and Brentwood just called in a $100.00 donation I mentioned that $100.00 anonymous donation and James in Antioch c.b.c. Listener a $300.00 donation that's great that's helping us get to our goal of feeding all $125.00 kids now for 5 months instead of 3 so we've got another $115.00 kids that need sponsorship that $300.00 if the James is called in is going to go a long way to do the math that's almost 10 kids and the match comes in and makes it you know 2 months worth for those 10 kids will you be as generous as you can $38.10 goes a long way in Haiti it doesn't go too far here in the States not like it used to anyway but a generous gift right now to child care worldwide. We'll bless these kids in ways that are unexpected because not only is there the food component let's face it but there's also the fact that it's done with the love of Christ this is a chance for us to be the hands and feet of Jesus getting the food to these kids is half the battle that helps them to learn more about him but you are listening to calle b.c. Very very one h.d. To all 28 and 95.3 f.m. 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