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Pre-owned and offers a full range of services in part reading Subaru invests in the community service and that's one of the reasons. They're on the web reading dot com. For anyone reading. Thanks. For the support Welcome to the Bioneers revolution from the heart of nature. Chemical. We are broke the world is broken and. To protect what is to protect what is gentle perhaps the wildness we fear is the power between our own heart the. Face that says we live only by crazy wild. Wild mercy in. The. End. Relative. Of the threshold of historic opportunity in the human experiment to reimagine how to live on Earth in ways that honor the web of life each other and future generations it's a revolution harder and the human. Revolution from the heart of nature. Social and interfere with breakthrough solutions for restoring people and planet creating a future environment of hope. This program was made possible in part by organic valleys pasture raised organic dairy products bringing the good from our family farmers to your table at Organic Valley Doug co-op Mary's gone crackers inspired by a conscious approach to eating organic gluten free and non g.m.o. Products in 2004 at Mary's gone crackers dot com funding also provided by a grant from the park foundation dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues and by the generous support of listeners like you when scientists James Lovelock and Lynn Margulis developed the guy hypothesis they propose that the entire symphony of all things exquisitely suffer regulates the earth's conditions to create conditions conducive to life. Yet today we're hurtling into the Age of Extinction the 1st ever caused by the human hand we're shredding the very web of life on which our own lives depend but the stakes are even higher we're diminishing the variability of evolution to adapt. As natural Janine Benyus has pointed out when we finally realize that an incumbent evolution is more precious than any vein of oil the rationale for protecting wild places will become self evident. This program right or natural as an activist Terry Tempest Williams invokes our deepest humanity to honor and protect the wilderness that's the cauldron of evolution and of our own imagination. This is a love that is wild. Matters in the 21st century My name is Neil Harvey I'll be your home welcome to the by any revolution from the heart of nature. Terry Tempest Williams is a globally celebrated writer naturalist environmental humanity scholar at the University of Utah and activist her classic books include refuge and finding beauty in a broken world she is known for her deep emotional vulnerability courage in facing and embracing the wounds of the world in order to heal them she said that when we have a hole in our hearts we can look at this hole as a wound or we can see it as a window a new perspective and vista of possibility Terry Tempest Williams spoke at a Bioneers conference. I want to tell you a story in July 2010 I made a pilgrimage to the Gulf of Mexico I needed to see for myself what had happened to our birds are migrating birds as they flew to the Gulf of Mexico. The b.p. Oil spill I met barefoot pilot from Alabama in time hatchings who offered to fly me over the Macondo well deep water. Ground 0 it was 100th day since the spill and in the New York Times the right hand corner above the fold it said 80 percent of the oil is gone not to worry. Me across that water. 800 feet above all we could see was or oil for as far as we could as wide as we could as long as we could bat. It was all lies. I said to Tom how do you handle this grief. What do you do with a heartbreak. And he said 2 things one. He told me that when the fires broke out and. When that oil was raging on the surface of the ocean. From the vantage point of his plane in a tipped wing. A part of dolphin. I. Had on the edge of the flame watching waiting wondering. To he sat my daughter Brinkley. He told me about his daughter Brinkley who was a student working for Greenpeace. He said I want to do this for her but better than I am she tougher than I. Fire on the water why grief what do you do with the heartbreak mark to the window the human heart is the 1st home of democracy it is where we embrace our questions. Can we be equitable can we be generous Can we listen with our whole beings not just our minds and offer our attention rather than our opinions and do we have enough resolve in our hearts to act courageously relentlessly without giving up ever trust in our fellow citizens to join with us in our determined pursuit of a living democracy. The heart is the House of empathy whose door opens when we were the pain of others. There is where bravery lives or we find it a medal to give and receive to love and be loved to stand in the center of uncertainty knowing this is all there is. The heart is the path of wisdom because it dares to be vulnerable in the presence of power. Our power lies in our love of our homeland. My home ground the American West the Red Rock Canyon a 7 year trial the Granite City Dells of the Grand Tetons the salt flats of the Great Basin where Great Salt Lake is water in the desert that no one can drink she is the mother calling down the migratory birds to rest American Avocet Black next dealt ready Duk pinned. Great blue herons. I made a vow as a child that as long as long build Curly would grace the briny shores of Great Salt Lake our world was safe saying a place every generation and return. They are still. A childhood becomes a lifelong quest to stand on behalf of animals and birds and all that is while all who cannot defend themselves against Human Project How then shall we live with a psychosis of mass extinctions. Again Terry Tempest Williams I think is such a poignant time. Where every single day of the full range of expression I think that turning shadow into trance in beauty and you know living in the desert you hear the coyotes cry. Coming up to me the. Drought. Fairly stranded on the crack sand. Catcher surviving and you think if there were fire catcher can continue to sing between intervals of thunder and we can't hear and I think I cry every day and not because I'm sad but because I feel and I think in many ways that I'm most important task at this moment in time is not a very hard case to not allow ourselves to be numb to the world I think being numb is another form of side and you know the question emerges how shall we live and I want to live as openly as wildly as present as I can. I think. The wonderful haiku. In. Florida in down river in and I think that you know that's what we're doing or are singing all of us. As a naturalist although Leopold famously said The 1st rule of the intelligent tinkerer is to save all the pieces that is exactly what we are not doing Michael soulé the father of conservation history has written an emotional call to arms and I ask you what is wrong with emotion. He says quote perhaps the hardest thing to grasp is the geological and historical uniqueness of the next few decades there simply is no precedent for what is happening to the biological fabric of this planet and there are no words to express the horror of those of us who love nature but loss of habitat and loss of species is not the whole story. Perhaps even more shocking than the unprecedented wave of extinction is the cessation of significant evolution of new. Among Us plants animals. Death is one thing but an end to birth something else. And nature reserves are too small to eat. Half the earth. What wildness is the highest form of imagination imagination leads to creative acts as Terry Tempest Williams observes quote wildness wilderness it's not something or some place outside of us wildness is within us and it is our source of our greatest inspiration our energy our power unquote. On creatively imaginatively to stop the unprecedented cataclysm of the age of extinctions we do have a strong sense of what's happening with climate change we do have. Knowledge that half of the other beings on this planet are gone or disappearing we have scientists like you know well who are saying half the earth must be wild you know has half Earth project have to be open space. The art of the rioters talk of the dancers the children the biologists we know what is happening. And yet we are very powerless why because those in power have so much at stake in maintaining the status quo. All right we have this knowledge we have a logical knowledge we have the historical knowledge we have the political knowledge we are working towards the spiritual understanding so how does that translate to power and I think all of us are saying the same thing it's true community it in our own way each with our own can it's in our own time here in our present returning back to our own communities going back home and that's what I'm finding more and more compelling for me is returning home. I think that's our no power. To protect and care for our homeland translating knowledge into power in community and that we can no longer look for leadership beyond ourselves you know we we now Congress is broken we know the presidency. And how on some level can we expect anything else . I think we just have to expect more from ourselves and each other which seems like a real burden but I actually think that's where our joy. Is looking each other in the eyes and how are you know how to make something together ever hope is a verb with its sleeves rolled up as David Orr has said for Terry Tempest Williams we have to transform our grief sometimes the only appropriate response is anger after all if you're not outraged you're just not paying attention. But unlike temper you can't avoid it right. And you know many of the things I've written have been written out of anger tar sands being one with oil and gas development in the American West being another the loss of habitat for prairie dogs I think up on and on and on nuclear testing. The fact that half of my family is dead. Because. Of radio active fall out in the 1950. 9 women in my family have all had messed up to me 7 or 10 and. Yeah I mean going but I think the question is how do we take our anger and transform it into a quick rate so that we can be of use so that we can be heard. Most importantly so that we can listen and I think you know anger can be a gift but it can also be a proud. Every day I have to just kind of sit and pray and. Be mindful of the beauty around us and then think what's at stake and take that fury that temple inside me which is my name and find a language that opens hearts rather than closed. And so broken I've made a commitment that we're having difficult dinner parties. And in these difficult dinner parties we think Ok we have a table of. Even have a conversation with and where where we having a tough time having that conversation difficult dinner parties speak the unspeakable in language that opens hearts. In her neck of the woods fracking for oil shale and mining for tar sands oil are on the table within sight of the famed canyon lands National Park I think it's time that we break bread among ourselves and really listen and find out what what they where we agree where we disagree and how can we move around the table and not compromise our core principles that's what I'm interested in. Right or an activist Terry Tempest Williams When we return she asks can we love ourselves each other and the earth enough to change this is a love that is wild why wilderness matters in the 21st century I mean Harvey you're listening to the Bioneers revolution from the heart of nature. To explore all available Bioneers radio shows and video programming please visit by New Year's Day. And our thanks for the generous support from listeners like you in the face of so much death and destruction it's easy to fall into despair denial and distraction how can we stay present and navigate through these times again Terry Tempest Williams. All I know is that when I am in and it doesn't matter if I'm in New York City it doesn't matter if I'm in the wildest place on the planet it's Am I awake are my ears open to the sound of. You know are my open to the fish city a booming in Central Park and I aware that in Central Park in The Ramble you know we've got a whole migration of whatever's going on am I aware when I go to work at one street someone has a chance of picking up dead birds that have flown into the glass windows in the urban canyon. You know am I aware. That oil and gas is absolutely scraping the soil and all. Of the Southwestern tenser. There's a high cost to being aware right so I think you know how do we create situations where a lot of you know how do we take care of ourselves so that we don't fall. To the world around us so it's not outside us it's inside and they can I just want to have dinner parties you know and say Are you are you awake you know are you bored I'll take this televised attached to your grandmother's press route and I don't know but I just want to talk about real things and I think when we talk about real things and our hearts are open then or alive then we're not afraid to fail because someone willing to go that route with us. Keeping it real open hearts open minds in community at the age of 50 Terry Tempest Williams became a mother when she and her husband broke adopted a son from Rwanda a nation ravaged by war and ecological destruction. And now we have an adoptive family and they have adopted and if you would have told me 10 years ago that I would become a mother at 50 I would not have believed you but Fountain who. Are adopted brother texted me the other day from Rwanda and he said mom Terri why I asked myself why every time we talk you talk about the environment I said to myself I don't understand but now I'm going to tell your story that explains something he said there's one tree that I go to every day and every day I sit against that tree and I play my guitar and I revise myself and my music every day and he said on Friday I went with my tree and the tree was nowhere to be found and. He said I could have cried. And I realized I hadn't since there are. I understand why you're talking about the over. These are the conversations we're having over the world. In our own language each with our own point if you know and I find that. Tied to a fidelity that is in our d.n.a. . The next question is. Now what my fasting do with that emotional grief anger could rage I am in action. Direct experience create direct action. And that is our prayer repeatedly. Maybe our earth. Can we love the earth and have to change can we love ourselves enough to change can we love each other and have to change because if we continue with this kind of behavior be it in a familial relationships be it in our own personal lives be where. Our own community. And I think clearly we will continue on the path that we're on you know what you think in your other and the irony is. We are so afraid of other. Even others. And if we can find our way into that place of honoring not divine. Of earth but of. This. Fast expansive breathing throbbing creative force. And I believe anything is possible. That the very nature of the earth is transformation at the very core of this. Universe. Expansion and you know I think it is holding all these 200. And for me it is about love it is only about love. The very nature of the earth is transformation. Can we be big heart. Can we transform grief into reference. Wilderness. Is not an abstraction or an idea or our recreation. It is our sanity it is our survival wellness in the 21st century not a sight of me for what once was but rather the seabed of creativity for what we have yet to imagine in our evolution let us be clear let us be bold let it be unapologetic passionate in fear let us play our bodies down together in the name of love our wild heart telling their every single day are we listening. Are we feeling. The death of our animal nature. This is our alchemical moment. We are broken. The world it's broken. And it's beautiful. They will go witness to the building that remains and reimagine ourselves on the planet in the name of wild mirth we can do. Here in this room we can do this. Time for us to go home and half. Of the future are looking back at us. And they are praying that we might see beyond our own time. They are kneeling with hands clasped that we might act with restraint that we might leave room for the life that is destined to come to protect what is wild to protect what is gentle perhaps the wildness we fear is the paths between our own heart. The silent space that we live only by great. Wildness wilderness live by the same great wild mercy is in our hands. Let this be our prayer reimagined. Thank. I'm . One temple. I love that is why. I love this man in the 21st century. Explore radio shows and video programming online at Bioneers dot org for information on attending the National buying year's conference Bioneers events in your area please visit via nears. Or call 1877 by New Year. By any years revolution from the heart of nature is a production of and collective Heritage Institute executive producer Kenny possible written by the county office of our senior producer Neil Harvey managing producer Stephanie Welch relations. Interviewer recording engineer Jeff West. Theme music taken from the album journey between 5 aka beyond used by permission of Hannibal records a writer this label additional music was made available by Sounds true that sounds true dot com for more information please visit Bioneers dot a largely the opinions expressed in the by New Year's Revolution from the heart of nature radio series are those of the presenters and are not necessarily those of Bioneers and collective heritage the underwriters for this radio station. My name is Neil Harvey thank you for listening. I invite you to join the pioneers in inspiring a shift to live on Earth in ways that honor the web of life each other and future generations. Program number 15 support for the revolution from the heart of nature provided in part by Organic Valley family of farms and Mary's gone crackers . Marker. Around a mountain and you are listening to k k r n 88.5 bell of. Programming and kicking our own community radio is made possible in part by listeners like you and healthy faster healthy fast community collaborative working to make the healthy choice the easy choice and Shasta County by encouraging physical activity and healthy eating healthy fast to remind you to get outside and play every day for i.d.s. Visit healthy Shasta dot org or call 530-225-3745 Karin thanks healthy for supporting community radio. The radio I'm a peaceful country. Was. The life and times are few tough Philip how I became an activist. This is the 2nd half of a one hour talk by the great storyteller folk musician organize and activist you talk. You heard in part one the story of his childhood and his time in Korea when he returned from the war he made friends was a man handed at the Joe Hill House for transients and my grounds and he became a pacifist and began to use music as a political weapon. In the early 1916 still and Lake City Phillips was involved was Fair Play for Cuba and eventually must regain He also started. An organization called the Poor People's Party. Gratian of the life of Utah Philip who died on May 23rd 2008 in his home in Nevada City California. 4 years earlier he had spoken in Berkeley California about the event changed his life. You will be able to see why he is now remembered with such admiration and love here in Utah fell at. Because part of the crowd in Trier early in the children everything we wrote everything we spoke about was it dropped entirely in the children who are in their part of town feeling that if we could address. All the other needs to take care of me. As you were thinking about. Hard to argue with. For most of all that it was organised. Coca-Cola there were laws. Had to have a certain temperature in them but they were really forcing people through has really improved in those rooms. Because. I don't get your advertising you know. In. $300.00 rooms. And they gave me. My. Past and I gave. Them with intent along with a little notebook and a pencil. You write down the temperature in the room and then everybody all 300 could turn a lot of time down the Planning Commission and move the ball. And it worked. That was demonstrated the power of it. Then it was time to do the hard work of union manual and the Tenet union then you will not only have landlord responsibilities everybody. Electrical. The plumbing the landlord. You. Still rights movement. Trying to get an open house. Another thing if you get cooperation from the church or because. Of enjoying the peace if. There was a revelation. By direct revelation. My visit. To Washington you want to. Thank. Is that I was acknowledged through to the 1st Black Panther Party. Conference Against War fascists still in value to. Denver their way when friends from the Communist Party of Utah it turned out very formal for at least 20 years. There was a thrill. There then people can even Universe 967. We want to get on the ballot. In Utah and. Present for us. Would you be willing to murder People's Party. There are many faculty people at the risk. If so I went back to the convention in Ann Arbor and back. Here our state convention got nominated for the. We got on the ballot. Was our president. Here's. The great pork vice president and it was all just. I think all these events. I was a mole of the base of the state capitol documents 75000 feet of public records. Believe in their service ran a full campaign all $47.00 counties. In 90. 8 give. It my job. To parties. Governor reopen wherever I went to get it I couldn't get. Hold of blacklists it always called me even loading dock Ok. Couldn't get shot. In the back of the where. There was hard because everybody village got me into the back to work with the universe. And all we have. Gone by then trying to get the. Draft dodgers anymore. And a little bit of money working for the mag we were working on organizing. The removal of the market. We're going through a whole. Dependable. As they went by. That. Time for me working with them. I learned from the organizer. You don't. You know are people now who. Advertise and if they're organized well no. Sale. From their. Job is to identify the informal leaders community and then train them and then they become the people who've. Happened. I remember when they. Really had their 1st big meal and we were the chief organizer. We work for the meeting and just. Somebody stood up and said you know why are you there are you here you don't belong here. We were told to leave and we did and. How do you feel about that as you'll just praise. Him If you're going to you got to. Go for. The Eagles if you were around. With. Wealthy organized cooperatives for. What you call a laundromat. On the bridge over the railroad tracks. If you couldn't get it how. About a garage. Washing machine. That we that we got together. I began to be dimly aware of a real problem that I found when I left Utah to be chronic and that was. What happened to. Me was happening to the Black Panthers. And I became aware of the fact that what the. What they were doing was letting organizations develop charismatic leaders. Cultivated further than it did and then rip it off. And turning an organization into a defense. That all of this money and effort was going into legal. Going into the defense committee and going into the job in the presence of all of your you know your goal and I became pretty persuaded it was that one of the one of the great problems you had in our movement the development of charismatic leadership the place of being so close. I remember old. Jack Miller who was on the for their. Story. To Everett Washington and when he sailed into the harbor sheriff the great deputized every drunk in town and given a rifle when they were in the dark and when they lowered the gangplank. A walk at the end of the organizers who are your leaders with one voice back we are all. That's what I mean everybody's got to do everybody else. Know you. Well I'll do this one here real quick. Because next I'm very. Militant. I thought the best way to bring Margaret housing in the county up to code. Down the old housing sort of the community supervise the building of the new well Governor was a good go for this because he had only of 4 Ph. D. Organize. Then the joy Hill House. Of young men I want to set up a switchboard for them to get them back with their parents. While I was gone or a volunteer a cook a really weird dope one of the hospital the cops are on the way over. My recount after the organizers had to leave town I couldn't get work anywhere because of the blacklist I had. $75.00 in my pocket old Carl. Was over my v.w. Bus at midnight in the rain replacing the transaxle in that thing with high quality it was revenge. Of crossing. $75.00 in my pocket and that I could detect the words. I didn't know that I thought we had to be told that. New York. Cafe Leena I've been told that was ground 0 for going. And it was there. Over the country people working for $25.00 a night live and driving all cars. Wonderful people are people. Not people making records not people have a minister or making. Love of our own people unwilling to leave the move to be able to go places. All. Back and forth and they took me in and embraced. I organized. Traveling storytellers wild flowers Springs do your. Very organized and pay roof or even think about. What he had. Paid into. Pension. 3rd generation or that finally renewed old John because if. A whole bunch. Of 1000 American Federation of. It's growing local over here. Where 30 years will be one. Way to go I wound up working. With wonderful wonderful people my elders. Are all been gone in. Nimrod work and George Cukor the great work it was always her very words in free speech. And Mehlman. Will know. Who we're going to do logging in from 96 in July 55. On the docks. In Jack narrative talked about Rosario the last living survivor of the Lord Dragon. With people many corners who told me about the Triangle Shirtwaist . People I hang with my partner. They gave me their memory they gave me they gave their own lives. You can never be lived again but a living of created. More powerful more beautiful more passionate and more you. Have a rare. And those stories are mine now. Some time ago when you know my old. Well. Here and. At some point you decide which riseth you can inherit because. You put in the world and I know what my inheritance and. Put in the world smiles Horton came in. For organize their. Idea if that if you take people from the community problem and put them in a room to provide food provide information provide experts if they need them you know and they come in a way. And. Eventually they already have a solution to their problem and it works and work and year after year after year there was an organizer miles Horton passed away long ago now Miles Horton for miles. Well it. Was. A little town in Kentucky. Well the minister was afraid that Miles is going to be feel. Broken he didn't have any ammunition and he did not use it anyway. He was looking out the window of his room there on the 2nd floor and a big long black car pulled up. In there and he knew he had it he opened the window. You fall down there yeah what I mean something you can tell it's not important oh yeah i can i got what you gotta get you're not organized You got me you're going to. What do you mean important get organized well you're going to come up here and kill me but I got this. Bill the 1st one to come in the door and I'm going to kill the 2nd or 3rd one is going to kill me thing is you've got to decide who's going to come in the door 1st you got a good morning thanks. So if they thought about it for a while I got in the car and rolls away my. So he was invited to a little town and. Have a talk on. Paper with the place where he was. On. The walk around town time wasn't he walked around until he found a bunch of people they were going to war. And so he's all of them. Sure enough there was a dame on a reader board and they all sat down and he sat down on the back as soon as. He walked down the aisle up to the podium stood up the. Leadership signing a bunch of people who look like you know where they're going and going in and sat down stand up and talk about leadership my. Final visit. And then of course very very firm and. We talked about his p. Talk about the day before I drove through. That meeting in Berkeley before the car . Notion that the mayor the mayor can escalate. From a cop on the beat with a handgun. We have to have rich and everything in between. He always come up that will come up that role if you want. All you want keeping it real because if you take a. Piece. Of a real. Nonviolent tactic practical. Or ramble here I've never put together. What needs to. Happen. Laver. Internationalize. The boss. For National. Workers against each other if you miss American auto workers and he's already there and he's No one International Auto Workers Union. Airlines every. Donkey. Thinking in those. All the. Nice from the government. From the government. Deregulation private what we already own together. And an army ported at public expense to protect. And now not only are getting their corporate. Government. They were. As internationalized Labor has been a nationalized big deal he was 19 or 5 of the founding invention of the Industrial Workers of the world world labor the world Union couldn't do it there it took it took. To get to Australia we had rain but now we have all the. Communication with the tools. To begin to build that kind of international. All the able. To move. Another big part of the area. You know my mother all that was on the progress of the game together when everybody put their differences and moving in the part of the Depression and what came out of their. Workers' Comp a. Minimum wage bill that we had the power of the power of their. The boss recognize you know you have power you know how to use. So would you ask. For your political action committee elect your Congress. Or Washington and they will. Leave what you would normally have over a bargaining table and we fell for it. There are vest organising right off the shop floor right out the door and it worked. No it didn't work so we got done as they have in Canada Hargrove. They're building the one big union but they've turned their back on the new Democratic Party. He said that has worked especially the bargaining table it's back to organizing to the point of production. 21. Very treasure their. Political power is in direct proportion to. Your economic power if you have the economic power you have no political power so what do you organize organize with it if you. Can become a reality. Young people that I talk to have got to wonder. These old timers I worked with. Even if. They were all virtually. Every head than if you mean from. Europe. They love the market. But they took it into the workplace and tools they call the National Guard for the boss is sincere about a March seed of. Heaven if you do. Young people got to understand noise and noise for the most important vote they will ever take. To bring the unions into their workplace because that's when the real. Reason to rebuild. Rebuild. And the market was there and even some of the people were there who knew how to do their funeral or if they're on the honor elders among our true elders a progressive movement with every inside every. Act and moving together putting a different. Voice becoming. A corporate fashion. Where. You understand what I mean really why we are right. We have to reveal the progressive movement and none of this. None of that none of this very rare not of this. Radical no. Therefore there needs to be something for every level of commitment in this progressive movement. Not about denigrating any other part of it we have to want to put direct action and political action are 2 hands of the same body fanatic fighting against each other but work together come together. No activist left behind thank. You. And the other thing the other thing is we have to rely on the tactics. Tactics of the peace movement. We came out of the. Civil rights movement was meant for oil in an environment in the south and of course the people who lived and worked there knew knew what. And read out. These young highly motivated political people came into the new. Group the anti-war movement and they brought the. Never. We have been using the same tactic way down to here. Are predictable. Even. The kind of revolving door. Reevaluating our tactics. And how. We got to. Dealing with dealing with the failure of our failure of the tactics to be even heard it from movement be a banner for breach of the appropriate for the movement they were in. And. I went through a couple of families. Long a way to. Contact with a number of proud of the new. Me Even the people around me in the. Movement reborn progress movement is going to transform the world. We must be more careful and every child I think. Of this regime. To be humane. Even the anger against. Your hatred of. The Foundation. Could not. Find her and her. Compassion with each other. And I love and. Thank. You thank you for me. And I have to you. This is the end of an hour long talk.

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