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President Trump says the base will be to about a good the nation's capital will be the show of a lifetime many of the nation's capital gree but not everyone is thrilled about the event I think is exciting the fact that we're going to be reminded of how we got this freedom to Washington d.c. Is great Boswell said today's event will disrupt some travel operations at Reagan National Airport all things for almost 2 hours tonight for the president's speech the flyovers and then the fireworks the 4th of July spectacular will in fact feature tanks fighter jet flyovers fireworks in a speech from the commander in chief himself it's the 1st time in years that a president has talked to the masses during the independence celebration the president has been criticized for the cost of the event and over for years he'll make you a bit political but he tweeted this morning that when he does speak today he will do so on behalf of our great country. Well here's some really great news a Georgia company is making t. Shirts with the Betsy Ross flag on it after Nike decided not to put the flag on its new shoes the veteran owned company 9 line apparel calls itself were limitless Lee patriotic and says Nike is ignorant about the history of the 13 star American flag Nike was set to release a new shoe this week that displayed the flag created by Betsy Ross during the American Revolution that she was pulled after a spokesperson column captured a Canuck There's said the flag had ties to an era of slavery. The trumpet ministrations attempt to allow military funds to be used for a border wall is getting another rejection mark me field with the story the 9th circuit court of appeals rejected a request by the government to stop a lower court ruling the appeals court explained that it was not constitutional for the executive branch to divert funds that were appropriated by Congress a lower court had ruled the funds could not be used in certain areas and recently reaffirmed that ruling and this month is the 50th anniversary of the 1st manned moon landing by Apollo 11 Phil Hewlett reports the Johnson Space Center is making the most of it Space Center Houston is giving visitors a chance to see artifacts from the Apollo program up close among the artifacts on display our moon rocks that visitors can actually touch the lunar roving vehicle trainer used to prepare the crews of several Apollo missions a space suit worn on the lunar surface that still has moon dust on it and the Apollo 17 command module used in the last lunar mission in 1982 failed Hewlett n.b.c. News radio the Phoenix City Council is considering a plan to create a civilian review board to provide oversight of the police department that has special policy meeting yesterday the council heard details about how the board would operate Vice Mayor Jim Waring said there already is oversight of the police are illegal 'd there and officers have been disciplined and arrested and fired her Kaikai Gago called for the special policy leading up to public outcry over the lack of oversight of the police department following a number of incidents and this fall the University of Arizona will be offering a Bachelor of applied science and intelligence and information operations the Us Defense Intelligence Agency is funding the program with a one and a half 1000000 dollar donation that allows the university to position itself as a national leader in cyber security and intelligence gathering education the new spot to you by fearless agent real estate coaching fearless agent helps real estate agents get rich every day go to fearless agent dot com That's a look at news on Phil Nash 460 The Patriot. From 960 to Patriot Here's a look from the Roberts' tax and retirement planning traffic center everything looks pretty good on your freeways earlier obstacles all clear us 60 looks good east and westbound from prison all the way towards I 10 and on I 10 coming in from the avenues no delays east or west bound from the 101 toward 7th Avenue even state Route 51 is checking endl a free Danny Sullivan for 960 the Patriot I'm Terry Gilbert and this is Terry's take on the topics recently the Supreme Court ruled that a 40 foot piece cross erected nearly over 100 years ago and dedicated to soldiers killed in World War One can remain standing the ruling rightly included the reasoning that because of 100 years of public devotion to it tearing it down would show hostility to religion which would be unconstitutional the ruling was 7 to 2 to keep it standing because when it was erected by the American Legion its purpose was to show respect for 49 soldiers who fell in war and that a Latin cross was representative of all faith beliefs now one of the reasons the issue went to the supreme in the 1st place was that this cross symbol was challenged as a test of religious freedom and in the lower courts attest to the separation of church and state but to the ruling 72 which allowed it to remain I say amen to that the court wisely took into consideration that the design was chosen not to promote Christianity in particular but to mirror the crosses that stood on all the graves of all the troops who died in the Great War The court also wisely took into consideration that by keeping the cross it doesn't mean it's a blank slate for other crosses to remain in other cases so to me as I reflect on this ruling today the 4th of July it also says something to me about how this current court feels perhaps about monuments in general especially historical ones about independence and liberty and religious freedom and should they get other cases about monuments historical signifying the fight for freedom and or symbolizing our independence including religious independence they may also lean toward letting those structures stay as well they should let freedom ring I'm Terry Gilbert. 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Doc ery Jop a great student of the Declaration of Independence on the 4th of July who for many years I replayed his interview in the afternoon but we moved to the mornings and Dr on his move to Dr Jeff has moved to his reward in the last year and Dr on his student agreed to spend a couple of hours grabbing some of the greatest hits of my conversation with Dr John for more than a decade ago and on the Declaration of Independence on this 4th of July and Dr I want to play for you I asked him whether or not only given Jefferson actually meant it when they claimed that all men were created equal Here's what he said number. In the 1st place you have to be clear as to in what respects they held that all men are created equal they were equal in their rights their rights with which they were and touted by their creator rights which were theirs and to the laws of nature to nature's God Now Jefferson for example. Admitted that there were great inequalities among white men. He also thought that maybe Negroes had such were inferior intellect or. Rational and various abilities even in the Atlantic ability his he thought that they were inferior in both body and mind respect that if that might be true but he said that has nothing to do with their rights he said Sir Isaac Newton may be my superior in every human respect but that doesn't give him any right to control my person or my property but Jefferson owned slaves that comes the retort no matter what so his speculations seem to trump his ideology well. Let's put it this way Jefferson like all of us was born into a world that he didn't make. And. Through and through of ideas and Jefferson's ideas that were in the course of time to change the world than probably any man that ever lived but to expect him to have changed the world simply because he was born into it or that he had these ideas he was simply through and not of just the nature it is an experience. That makes me laugh even when I hear it Larry are in other words you don't know what you're saying you're. Thinking about this thing class he would say the miracle of the founding. It's not that they committed to seeming contradiction. Contradiction in fact contradiction between announcing the equality of man and keeping their slaves by the way they did liberate to slavery over most of the Union pretty. The miracle he said was that a bunch of satellite holders should articulate the principles of Declaration of Independence on the explicitly of understanding often proclaimed that it condemned slavery that's the miracle that it was a miracle and I asked you about that and where it came from because those framers were steeped in classical education so I asked him what birthed that Declaration of Independence Here's what he said Number 10 Jefferson wrote a letter to Henry Lee I think 823 which is the most extensive exposition of what his intention was he said was not to find out any new ideas or invented anything new but to present the common sense of the subject as it was found in letters sermons lectures and the elementary books of the public right as for example Aristotle Cicero Locke city etc Aristotle Cicero law call it start with those are what it Aristotle say that he bequeath to the framers in Philadelphia I think that the idea of data as the norm for human behavior that's clearly has its hard truth what does Nature is the nor mean well. When Jefferson wrote that all men are created equal what he meant by that explained and put at least is there was no difference between man and man as any human be and the other human be as there was between man and dog for example were man and God. The authority that a human being has over who says her dogs or other animals come from nature because of the difference in nature that makes man. So superior to the inferior species that he has authority over them there is no difference between Tuman beings which makes one human being the master of that other human being because of a difference in nature then I went after him about Ok that's Aristotle here Cicero and I asked him what Sr impact was caught number 11 Aristotle did not have any. Explicit concept of natural law be a law which was transnational or International which covered people with or without respect to their membership in particular political societies Cicero did Cicero did in part because the Roman Republic had conquered the ancient world and has created a kind of international municipal law through the power of the Roman Legions and so the Stoics thought of. Governing mankind independently of positive law so and Cicero's conception of natural law was developed greatly in the Christian West by Thomas Aquinas and there would have been talk about lock and cut number 12 this is what he said Law contributed quietness and then hooker the. Idea of the. Party proceeding from from kings or princes. The idea that authority originated in the people and not in custom or and just in the object of truth of law. The deck allowed for example the prohibition against murder theft adultery the 10 Commandments are. Not all 10 commandments Ok keep going to the 1st the 1st tablet has to do with our relationship to God the 2nd when our relationship to each other over the 5th Commandment is ambiguous. But these things are recognized as being into. To humans. To the welfare of human beings no human society can so these were prohibitions recognized everywhere but then a whole lot had its origins in the authority of the people that was something new which was not in any For example in any democratic idea before the American Revolution so Cicero Aristotle Cicero and Locke and by the way Dr I know why you never got done with the book when you talk with Dr. But it but but it was this new to him or what the framers of said yes you're right that's exactly what we were doing. Well we can only you know 1st of all the framers were politicians and they were statesman and so their arguments are you know amazingly area but also there are practical political arguments for Jeff as a scholar. He's like a classical scholar in this way he speaks in ordinary terms he's been using a lot of technical terms you know when you hear him he never did. He's very analytical I mean he is simply brilliant you know I mean he's such a mystery. But what I think is what he says about them is built up out of their words and that's a very profound point. I studied with 2 main teachers I guess you'd say Harry Taff and Martin Gilbert and there are so very different but I know where they where they came together Martin Gilbert was a story and he wrote narrative histories out of the documents but he would always say the past is real and when the documents exist there is no reason or license to speculate you can read what they say. One of his deficit favorite quotations it's in both Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas this alone is denied even to God to make what has been not to have been that stage something about nature right one of the 1st things you have to teach people in this case and the thing I learned more than any other from Professor Jaffe and his students and my fellow students of his was that you have to approach things as if they are real and find out what they're like and so this work that he has done on the American founding and Lincoln is in my opinion a great act of recovery and therefore not foreign to them at all. And and not be being not foreign to them meaning I think that they would have consented to his interpretation of their work. I agree with that you know I we have a we in the study you know he we anybody who studies great figure in my opinion if they do it. In the word the way will marvel at them sometimes I often say to myself how did Churchill know that I know how I know it you know I had some great teachers and I spent many years teaching and thinking about it and talking to people about it and you forget that Churchill is just like us in that regard he's looking at the world and trying to make sense of it and he just was particularly good at it and the same is true of Lincoln and the same is true of the founders and so Jaffa understands them one of his great gifts from Strauss one of his great rules of procedure is you must understand a thinker and he understood himself before you make any attempt to understand him better we will be right back on this 4th of July talking about the Declaration of Independence the man who wrote it in ratified it the man who lived it meant instead he did Harry Jaffe in particular with Dr Murray and he'll tell college all things Hillsdale available he'll tell you go sign up for employment the speech I guess it's absolutely free that would be your declaration of independence from conventional thinking if you go and do that during the break I'll be right back on the chair. 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Happy 4th of July America cheer us celebrate the day the right way stay with me for the rest of this hour as Dr Larry and I are in the night celebrate the declaration by going back over an interview I conducted years ago with Dr Harry John a scholar of the Declaration of Independence in the last segment Dr on President Hillsdale College I think she'll tell available health care about 80 you mention Leo Strauss therefore I'm going to go to Dr John teacher Leo Strauss I asked him about Leo Strauss in the course of that interview let me play those cuts and get your comment on a cut number 22 I've been sometimes asked Who are the greatest man who is the greatest man of the 20th century and I sometimes offer you know will answer the greatest the 2 greatest men where Winston Churchill and Leo Strauss Winston Churchill have done throughout the world. And almost nowhere but what Churchill was to if there you know Strauss was there Martin Heidegger the philosopher of national socialism that's led to this the fact that Churchill seems to have what his victory over him seems to be complete. 3rd Rush was destroyed him and suicide and the world has seen at least something a freedom that would not have at his or one or. Sense has not been victorious he's been victorious over Heidegger in terms that he has provided there are the reasons the philosophical understanding which has within itself the power of defeating I think is not grounds you say that Heidegger is enormously popular and the reason that Scalia and Rehnquist believe these things because the height of his influence. Or my faith pre Heideggerian influence of the. Name of a come. Next Neighbor. How compact and beautiful is that. Heidegger . Heidegger you know defense he is a member of the Nazi party and holds an office under the Nazi party and office couldn't hold if you're not a member of the party and now is emerging his diaries which are called What the black books they were in some black oilskin cover and come to find out he was a more thorough going to finger of the program of the Nazis than was previously known and what does he teach really well 1st was very complicated Heidegger is a modern philosopher and that means there's a lot and a trait that's new kind of jargon that makes the system but Heidegger's teaching about being and about our understanding of the good of things is always can textual and we have some agency in the making of the context that's what historicism is about. And that led him to think I mean there's an added to that I read the other day been been translated into English lately from these diaries and it's. Something to the effect that it's too bad about the Jews what has to happen to them but someone have to suffer for the great now determined people to be realized and that thing when you get there then you can do anything to anybody you know and that's what interests rebelled against and that's what Abraham Lincoln rebelled against Remember Lincoln Lincoln one of Lincoln's. Condemnations the flurry of which were moral and which did stablished the rights of the blacks even though he didn't fully draw that out all the time the condemnation was it's the old serpent isn't it you work and I'll eat. And he also I asked him about Strauss and his city and man Book Number 23 profound crisis. Is shown on the campus is that there is no. What is that what is the ultimate human could as defined by philosophy professors on our campuses today a very popular expression of this that is that the highest human good is the emancipation of the uninhibited self emancipation the greatest example of an image about emancipated self that I can think of is that of he did exactly what he wanted. Every man would like to be a tyrant you see. So the idea that the emancipation of the who had self was this is the human freedom is defined without any regard to any objective moral principles whatever this is the dominant opinion on our campuses today this is the opinion underlies what is called political correctness. Not be a painting in the Declaration of Independence America more on that when I return with Dr Larry on on. I don't go anywhere near your job. 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Middle East radio Sunday. 60 to. 33 minutes into the air on this 4th of July America happy 4th of July to you I'm Hugh Hewitt My guest is Dr Larry are in present at Hillsdale College where the Declaration of Independence is alive and well unlike the campuses Dr Gary Johnson was talking about in the last segment Dr John passed away this past year he was my guest in audio tape for many years on this program of the 4th as I asked Dr on join me today to recall not only the declaration but also Dr Jeff a scholarship but when we went to break there we were talking about the crisis on campuses. It seems to me not coincidentally if you talk about the great document you end up talking about the great man and if you talk about the great man you talk about the great evil men as well it always comes up in the same conversation yeah if. These claims of right what do you learn from the classics and if you study them the way Professor Jeffrey did you learn it from Les right you can't forget it. The claims of right to infuse everything we do Hitler himself was making moral arguments right his argument was not what Professor Jaffe it is a belief was that but his argument was we can win greatness for all people by making it racially pure German people to Masters of the earth. They can they can overcome all the mediocrity in the world and be excellent and everything else can live in relation to their exploits right well if you just listen to those things never mind that they're crazy those are also claims about good right Hitler's claim was that his regime was good and that distorted claim raises the question of the good and invites you to think about it that's why it's so important for these to Tala Tarion regimes to punish what people say. One of Churchill's great new look at these look at these Islamic tyrannies right what is they like what's it like there if you raise an objection they will hunt you to the inside of the earth . And so turtle's point was think of the one of the men there in the Nazi regime that the shit quivering that somebody will say had a thing. I also asked him about Lincoln because the 4th of July was was celebrated by Lincoln in the Gettysburg Address which is the November address but it was about a battle fought on the 4th of July Gettysburg and I asked him about Lincoln why he was different from other tyrants who often destroyed republics this is what Dr Joppa said about that cut number 14 Lincoln was committed to the Constitution and he was committed to seeking political change only through constitutional means the Constitution the ante bellum constitution ready before the 13th Amendment gave the federal government no authority over that the Mest against the Titians of the individual states and one plank in the Republican platform which Lincoln repeated in his inaugural address was that the preservation of the sovereignty of the states over the best institutions this was essential to the perpetuity of our of our political institutions. And yet now the abolitionists or at least the extreme abolitionists were ones who believed that any political any power that could be summoned to destroy slavery was justified they thought that any time Lincoln or any president at the power to intervene to destroy slavery in the States he should use it Lincoln rejected that and in rejecting the Napoleonic approach he was rejecting that the approach that the devilishness were recommending Lincoln insisted that that as president as a candidate for president as president he was seeking only such authority as the Constitution conferred on the federal government and he was and now he he was that all of that authority was concentrated on one question in the decade before the Civil War and that was the question of the territories and the only game that the Republican Party had in 860 in gaining the presidency was to prevent the extension of slavery into the territories you hear so now it was a common belief and I think generally accepted and I think it can be accepted by us that if slavery stopped expanding it would have to contract it could not stand still so Lincoln was confident that if the extension of slavery could be finally stopped that slavery that a process would be initiated which would take place within the individual states just as it had just as the individual states had a ball of slavery north of the race and sex in line after the repertory of the revolution and the Constitution so the preprocessor would be to God which would lead to the emancipation of the slaves in the slave states themselves Dr I have to ask you Do you think that Lincoln force. Ah that the civil war was inevitable after his election even though he believed as Dr Joppa just said slavery would go extinct of limited to where it was intended to be limited by the Constitution do you think he saw the dominoes falling well. First when you have to isolate when they began to fall. When Lincoln ran in 1858 against Douglas for the Senate he intended to destroy the position of Douglas which was that. Each stage could decide for itself about slavery it didn't have any moral significance to the rest of the Union. And in fact not really even a moral significance for the people who decided however they decided and that was a plan for peace by Douglas Lincoln had an alternative plan for peace and that is we will preserve the Constitution leave it where it is but not let it grow I think in 858 he thought that that I think he thought that was right you had to do it that way because if you don't proceed lawfully then you're destroying the whole structure of law so I thought I think he thought he had to do that but in addition I think he thought that would work in other words that that could be accepted but then $859.86 and in the run up to the campaign and the election and then especially after the election then steps began to be taken for sedition and the and the rhetoric in the south and the north the cab especially in the South became more violent and so surely by you know I mean I know Lincoln didn't make any speeches between the time of his nomination until he got on the train to go and be inaugurated then they didn't make any speeches in the campaign and that was customary Stephen Douglas sort of broke tradition and campaigned himself in that $860.00 election all over the South but Lincoln did write a draft right in a couple of letters and draft a letter to President be canon to say if you start giving up territory to these guys I'm going to announce that I'm going to undo that when I take office so he saw the war coming by then for sure right and then I asked Dr Jaffe about the 2nd inaugural which is appropriate on this 4th of July to reflect upon one of the great messages of American history we can 2nd inaugural here is what I asked him about the importance of that cumbersome. It would be impossible to exaggerate its importance it was. I can't say that it was a great speech that Gettysburg Address I had cited and he but it certainly was Lincoln at the peak of his. Philosophical theological and political powers. It was most of all a. Statement that the Civil War was a punishment for the sin of slavery and that North and South were equally. Subject to to punishment for that doesn't rebuke those who would make common cause with c. And for a time in order to achieve a greater and because if in fact it's a punishment then that means the framing the Constitution was misconceived doesn't it no I think that the. Constitution certainly represented. A current involve a compromise but it was a rational compromise because any alternative the Constitution had not had these compromises with slavery it would not have been ratified had it not been ratified another constitutional arrangements which would have been much more favorable to slay slavery would have taken place so from that point of view I would say the founders are not to be punished but are not to be held accountable but Lincoln who ordered the both the Old and New Testaments won't do the world because of offenses it must needs be that the offenses of all into that ran by home any offense cometh see and make and afterwards to he thought that this reflected as much on him personally as upon anyone else. But he said still we must say that the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. In other words the founding fathers that he himself did everything they could it was not enough. But. The scripture says that. One through the world by whom the offense cometh that seems to be the. What the Bible teaches that seems to be the experience of man Dr and you agree with that assessment. If you think like Lincoln then you think this way you think that the principles of the declaration are universal and they become embodied in a nation a nation that has a mission to represent those principles then you think that the laws that are passed in the Constitution provides a structure for those principles to live and for a people to govern themselves under it it's precious The Constitution is imperfect of course but if you read Madison in the run up to the making of the Constitution in an essay he published called Vice the political system we are encouraging fight among ourselves and our union is going to come apart and we lose the Declaration of Independence that way but Professor Jeff as a point and following that is principles may be perfect human beings are not are not and so we will never have perfect laws Lincoln says very famously and beautifully. In a speech and I'll recount it if I've got one minute you do in July the 10th 858 closest thing to an actual 4th of July speech Lincoln ever gave he is the foremost both beautiful of all such speeches in life pinion and he starts out the way they always start out my want a great country this is and look how wonderful it is and look how big it's become and look how proud we are of it what an achievement. And then he says and we think back on those days in the beginning when when the founders started it and we think that they must have been iron men they fought for their principles he said but then we see a problem and that problem is that we are not a lot of the blood and flesh of the flesh of the fathers who came before us we come later. What makes it all the same and that is the electric cord and human equality it's there and that is always to be distributed for ever to be perfectly. 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I hope you've enjoyed America this 4th of July conversation with Dr Larry on the Hill to college Hillsdale dot edu I want to close our conversation dark drawn by playing for you from my old conversation with Dr Joseph about the Declaration of Independence what he said about the meaning of the pursuit of happiness and his definition of virtue and have you conclude by on reflecting on those 2 comments 1st cut number 24 Dr Joppa on what it means to pursue happiness the articulation of the meaning of the word happiness. For the Western tradition for more than 2000 years has been that's given by Aristotle and then they come back in ethics. And the word increase that is usually translated or you type on the which we just have a good time on another word his car yes which refers to wealth. But their meaning that the word has fratricidal is defined by Aristotle himself it is that good for the sake of which all other good things are sought. Happiness does nots Aristotle says consist in wealth because wealth is an instrument having wealth . Is good for the things that you could do with the wealth and the question is What can you do with the wealth. Happiness is not good simply for the sake of Honor why because on it depends upon the character of those who give the honor as well as in other words to be admired in on it by by stupid or vicious pen does not mean that the honor is worth anything. Stalin for example used to have these parades throughout the Soviet Union with praising him and with banners and and then he would look at the parades and and think that she was a great man i my of course he ordered to the parades himself and when Churchill was honored by the by the parliament it was by a parliament parliament which had already rejected him as its leader but the tributes of free men freely given to honorable deeds mean something but honor itself is a questionable good well Aristotle's final conclusion is that and this of course needs to be at its articulated throughout the 10 books of the neck of a human ethics that that happiness is and is an activity or virtue in a complete lie. So the pursuit of happiness is the pursuit of that I also asked him to define virtue can number 25. Goes through the entire list of a list the virtue of beginning with courage going to temperance and then on to back the name of he and that at the Justice and finally into happiness and to friendship . Virtue is an activity. In accordance with the right reason with respect to the different occasions in which human beings make judgments of right and wrong you know it to be able to act well. For example courage is that activity acting well in the presence of danger and to need it be not to run forward into danger needlessly to run away from it and I currently manage temperance is the right act the mean between excess and. Efficiency with respect to the pleasures of taste and touch so right to end up talking about happiness and virtue on the 4th of July when we should be talking about freedom happiness occurs twice in the deck Reisman and that it occurs 1st in life liberty pursuit of happiness and then it it occurs when it says that when people if people are just throw off their government and choose new forms most likely to affect their safety and happiness whisper fest Jeff would always point out is the alpha and omega of of Aristotle's politics. Now. Why is happiness mentioned the answer is that is after all the goal of freedom and to fail in happiness to fail to practice the virtues is to become the slave of the vices. And so people say sometimes the declaration of finance is all wrong because it doesn't name responsibilities as well as rights 1st of all this should read the damn thing but 2nd of all it's profoundly apparent in this treatment of happiness what do we want what do we want for our children we want them to be free do we want them to be free to do whatever they please we want them to live well you know idealist all we had commenced but the best I've ever seen Clarence Thomas was the speaker last year. And what is the point of commencement the only appropriate thing at Commencement apart from thank you this is speech is about living well and free people get a chance to do that and that is the decoration and that's what we celebrate today Dr Larry on thank you for going back I hope it's been more than nostalgia for you to hear your own Professor it's a beautiful and great thing I did you know I love that man loved him since the day I met him even as I say when he was typically ordering me about. The share that in common I remember that interview very well Dr on Happy 4th of July Happy 4th of July to all of you I hope you go and read the entire Declaration of Independence for yourself from start to finish perhaps out loud in a group and enjoy the rest of the day as we all do as free people any way we care to and celebrate the day but you might begin it with the Declaration of Independence Don't go anywhere America this great radio station will be with you throughout the entire 4th of July bring you the very best in entertainment on this the very best of American days that you're here which you know. You absolutely positively eat the truth this is where you turn this is the Hugh Hewitt Show. He would hear from my friends in Alliance Defending Freedom will you buy for your freedom every day Americans are finding their freedoms are under attack big government is forcing business owners to buy a lake their conscience left this university or. So much more. But. What. If. 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President Trump says with a salute to about a good the nation's capital will be the show of a lifetime many in the nation's capital agree but not everyone is thrilled about the event I think is exciting the fact that we're going to be reminded of how we got this freedom Well it was a great Boswell said today's event will disrupt some travel operations at Reagan National Airport will things for almost 2 hours tonight for the president's speech the flyovers and then the fireworks the 4th of July spectacular will in fact feature tanks fighter jet fly overs fireworks in a speech from the commander in chief himself it's the 1st time in years that a president has talked to the masses during the independent celebration the president has been criticized for the cost of the event and over for years he'll make the event political but he tweeted this morning that when he does speak today he'll do so on behalf of our great country well here's some really great news a Georgia company is making t. Shirts with the Betsy Ross flag on it after Nike decided not to put the flag on its new shoes the veteran owned company 9 lined apparel calls itself relentlessly patriotic and says Nike is ignorant about the history of the 13 star American flag Nike was set to release a new shoe this week that displayed the flag created by Betsy Ross during the American Revolution the she was pulled after a spokesperson Collin Kaepernick and others said the flag had ties to an era of slavery. 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