And the fallout from trumps twitter attack against two cable news hosts. Is the president undermining his own agenda . Our powerhouse roundtable takes that on, plus our look ahead to trump and putins facetoface meeting. Well ask the president s Homeland Security adviser will trump confront putin about russias election interference . Everything you need to know as these debates rage in washington from the white house to your house, we take on the moments that mattered this week. Announcer from abc news, its this week. Here now, coanchor, martha raddatz. Good morning. And happy fourth of july weekend. It is a critical time for the president s agenda. One of his Signature Campaign promises to repeal and replace obamacare with Something Better on the line and in serious trouble with the plan put forward by Senate Republicans in critical condition. Every american has a stake in what happens next including the citizens of ohio, the ultimate swing state, a big reason donald trump is president. Its also one of those trump states that expanded medicaid under obamacare and now faces the prospect that future medicaid spending will be dramatically checked. This as a brutal opioid addiction epidemic is straining ohios health care system. Insurers are pulling out. Premiums going up. Its a real crisis. We wanted to know how the standoff over obamacare is playing with voters and whether ohios republican governor, john kasich, who ran against the president and has been critical of his own partys Health Care Proposals sees any way to work it out. Before we dropped in on the governors mansion, we stopped by tommys diner just outside columbus. I am a donald trump fan, but this is a Health Care Issue that i cannot support. Its awfully expensive to get everybody covered so i understand the tension between covering people and the cost of doing it, but i do think the federal government has a role to play. I hope that it doesnt be just something that they push through really fast to get something done because it was something that trump said he would do. Reporter Delray Stocker has coverage now but is worried about the future. Tell me what you think when you look at washington and the Health Care Debate right now. I think that people who have to work for their health care are not going to be able to afford it any long. And may lose it . Yes. Im afraid our might have to downsize it and us pay higher deductibles which its impossible to keep up with it now. What if that happened to you . To me . We would not be able to afford to go to the doctor at all so any major surgeries would use everything in our savings accounts. Reporter and its not just ohio. In pennsylvania where i was recently, they share that concern. I am a taxpayer and my Health Insurance is getting very expensive. I mean, its so bad that i mean, you know, if i have any issues medically, its like, do you go to the doctor . Reporter and in this hospital outside columbus, the doctors are not the only ones paying attention. Just breathe normally for me. I dont do much of anything normally anymore. I notice that a lot of my patients have been actually expressing their concerns about it. They never have before. It would affect a lot of the real hospitals and it would have a dramatic effect on our communities all throughout ohio. Youve heard what some of the republicans are saying, okay, come on. This will work. It wont. Itll be fine eventually. Youre not buying that. This is really a big tax cut for the ultra rich and its going to come at the expense of the poor, the elderly and sick. Im worried this bill will take away a life line for some of the most Vulnerable People in our society. Reporter but once again, the president distracting from the issues with a series of tweets lashing out against morning joe hosts Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough. His supporters in ohio dont appreciate the distraction. Did you see the tweets about Mika Brzezinski and nope, i stay away from the tweet feeds honestly. As soon as it started, i deleted twitter. A little juvenile. Obviously for a president , but, you know, hes a pit bull. Its like the old playground mentality, you know, you said this so im going to say this and thats ridiculous. I want him to stop, period. He just does not need to do that. Reporter and it was on the topic of those tweets where my conversation with governor kasich began. You know its unfortunate, and people are now begging the president not to do this and, you know, he ought to stop doing it, and well have to see what happens. Its one of the few things that i think brought republicans and democrats together. They spend so much time fighting then theyre all aghast. Its not the way we ought to be. The coarseness is not acceptable. You know, one of the things the staff says is that he has a right to fight back at personal criticism hes received. Look, martha, this is not designed to kind of excuse anything, but it was early in my administration when i was having trouble when i was first elected governor that my wife came to me one day, and she said, john, youre the governor of ohio, youre the father of ohio. Why dont you act like it, and sometimes it takes people a while to understand the way in which theyre supposed to lead and what i would hope and ive been saying this now for a long period of time, you know, im going to just hope he grows into this job and understands you need to be a unifier. Any politician who is not a unifier is not somebody that i want to be for. So im hoping that hell, you know, that his family is going to talk to him and theyll say knock it off. I hope so. But i think in washington we have bigger issues than people being outraged by somebody elses tweet. They need to look themselves in the mirror and figure out whether theyre serving the country or theyre serving their own party or their own interests. Im very concerned about whats happening in many Different Directions including, of course, health care. But this doesnt help. The coarseness doesnt help anybody. But i dont think it has much to do with republicans and democrats on capitol hill. All of them see it the same way and theyve all have said it needs to stop. Should he apologize . Well, i mean i would. But im not him. Im me. I do want to turn to health care. President trump did tweet that if republican senators are unable to pass a Health Care Bill, they should immediately repeal obamacare and then replace it at a later date. Do you support that approach . I dont know what that means. Honestly i dont think the president really i dont repeal then replace . No, what im saying to you is i dont know that he look, if somebody were to go to him and say we could sit down with the democrats and come up with a deal that would improve the system, i mean you call it one thing, and they call it another thing, i think hed be fine with it. He is a negotiator like a real estate guy. They negotiation is part of their dna. No, you just cant get rid of this because you cant leave people without what they need. And this obamacare needs significantly reformed. Theres nobody that i talk to either side of the aisle, the democrats side that doesnt think that there doesnt have to be significant changes. The exchange is weak. It could fall apart. It could collapse. What happens, people will lose their health care. Ive talked to people on both sides of the aisle about this, republicans and democrats, i hate saying both sides of the aisle. It makes me like a washington insider, but when you talk to them, there is sort of in the back of their mind a sense that ultimately theyre going to have to figure this out. But right now they dont want to concede anything. One party doesnt want to concede anything to the other party because maybe itll make the bill less, you know, less conservative. The other party wants the other party to kind of, you know, put their face down in the dirt and say, we failed. I mean, its silly. I have been involved look, i went through a Government Shutdown and negotiated with senator domenici the whole budget deal of 97 where we balanced the budget. Both sides have to have a willingness to achieve something and then both sides have to kind of back off and give some space to the other side. You dont put someone in the corner. You dont put an animal in the corner without the animal striking back. You dont put a politician in the corner and without them expecting to strike back at you. And right now i was hopeful. Right now theyre not ready. They are not ready to sit down and talk and put the nation first in my opinion. And you called for this bipartisan oh, ive been talking about it forever. With other governors. Yeah, thats been kind of a struggle to get many of them to come out because a lot of politicians now, heres what theyre worried about. If youre a democrat youre worried about your base on the left. And if youre a republican youre worried about your base on the right. Whats the incentive . Well, the incentive is no one will ever remember you. The incentive is youre in that business, you give up a lot to be in politic, believe me, people dont really think that. You give up a lot to be in politics. If youre not there to change the world, i dont know what youre there for. It doesnt make any sense to me. So you cant go home and look at your plaques at the end of the day because every politician has like a million plaques on their wall. Okay. You dont go home and look at that. You dont get anything for that and you cant go home and say, boy, i really served the Democratic Party or the republican party. You want to go home and, you know, fourth of july, you know, any of these special holidays that recognize our country, you want to feel like you built a stronger nation, which means you helped build the people and put them in a stronger place where everyone is lifted. I mean i dont know how you could sit down there and not put the Country First. Everyone we talked to in ohio, everyone is concerned that putting Country First is being lost, swallowed up in all the d. C. Partisanship. I really dislike the fact that it has to be one party against another. It doesnt seem like were working together. It appears to me that anybody that we elect doesnt seem working for us, they seem to be working for the party. Its either democrat or its republican. Its not about the United States. Its about democrats or republicans. Who is against something . Theyre either all for or all against. Thats all politics. It has nothing to do with our agenda. Hopefully we can get a few people talking to each other instead of just argue all the time. Im hoping that this will Bring Congress together and get rid of some of this partisanship and have them actually take a look at these things without thinking about the next election and do the job theyre supposed to be doing is what id like to see. How do you get them to understand it and the things youre talking about . If you say do you support obamacare, they say no. If you say, well, do you support giving people who need Health Insurance insurance, they say yes. You try to explain to them what it all means but at the end of the day, martha, its leadership. You do what you know you have to do. And talk really about whats at stake here. We learned yesterday that another Health Insurance provider in your state is pulling out of the federal Health Insurance exchange. So what are the stakes . Well, the stakes are that for people who i would say are drug addicted who need to get constant treatment or people who are mentally ill who constantly need care, you know, theyre bipolar, theyre schizophrenic, that they would show up to a place where theyve been able to go and all of a sudden the door is locked and theres a sign on that says closed. I mean where are they supposed to go . I mean we dont we should not everybody is focused on the drug problem because its unbelievable. Its horrific and we all know it. But think also about that other problem where we have the mentally ill either sleeping under bridges or living in a prison. You know, put yourself in their shoes and youll realize we cant have that. Youve made it very clear that cuts to medicaid in this bill will make it harder to treat opioid addicts. So is that your only concern really in this bill . No, no, no. My concerns are would that solve it . Its not just medicaid and the fact that theres not enough money in medicaid legitimately to treat people and be able to reform the program, but its also the issue on the other side, the exchange where the exchange is collapsing and you cant also give people 3,000 or 4,000 a year in tax credits and think they can buy an insurance policy. What kind of an insurance policy can you buy at 3,000 or 4,000 a year . I mean, your deductibles would be so high you couldnt afford to get any health care. So, no, its the whole thing. Its not just medicaid. Its the entire bill and entire package which i believe can and will be fixed if people will put the Country First. So just to be clear, a substantial increase in funding for opioid addiction would not do it. No, especially if theyre going to give 45 billion, okay, over 10 years, im getting almost 300 million, 600 million a year. That would give me a billion over 10 years . That doesnt not even quite that. Its anemic. Its like as i said to senator portman at one point, its like spitting in the ocean. Its not enough but thats what theyre going to use. These efforts to try to buy people off and theyll throw big high numbers but they wont understand what the impact is on the program and thats why i continue to speak out. Look, do you think that i like to have to fight the leaders in my own party over this . Of course not. Theres no joy in that. John kennedy may have said it best. Sometimes my party asks too much. And back now live were joined by our powerhouse roundtable for their reactions to this wild week. Republican strategist and abc news contributor ana navarro. National review Senior EditorRamesh Ponnuru and anna palmer and jake sherman, coauthors of politicos politico playbook. Welcome. Happy fourth of july weekend to all of you. The latest tweet and well get to health care but we have more tweets from the president saying my use of social media is not president ial. Its modern day president ial. Make America Great again. And at his appearance supposedly honoring veterans, the vitriol continued and he said the fake media tried to stop us from going to the white house but im president and theyre not. We won and they lost. So he continues on this. You are very passionate about this this week and the attacks on Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough, ana. And i continue to be very passionate about it. I am incredibly bothered that we are lowering the standards and the requisites of what it takes to be president of the United States in terms of character, in terms of behavior. It is very difficult to focus on policy when youve got somebody that is so diminishing and damaging and making such harm to the office of the presidency. No weekend like july fourth should remind us just how hard it was to establish this country. Just what this democracy represents. Men like washington, like lincoln have held that office. This is not modern day president ial. It is modern day crass, it is modern day coarseness. It is modern day one flew over the cuckoos nest. It doesnt seem to do any good. Youve been saying this for a long time. A lot of people have been saying this for a long time, so what changes . Maybe nothing. But that doesnt mean im going to lower my standards and i think a lot of the American People are not going to lower their standards. I think that a lot of people are in distress at seeing a president that is a man baby that is thin skinned like an onion that cant take criticism. Im distressed at seeing the inconsistent standards that people apply according to party. If this was barack obama tweeting these things out, republicans would have their hair on fire. Theyd be calling for impeachment by now. And it happens on the other side too. There has got to be consistency on the character that we require. So whether it changes or not, whether donald trump changes or not and, believe me, i know changing a 70yearold man is not easy, that does not mean you stop calling for the change because the moment we get numb to this, the moment we get complacent and accept this, then we have agreed to lower the standards of what the person representing the United States of america to our children, to our allies, to our foreign foes represents, that is not acceptable and we cannot do it. If you are an american, you have got to defend the standards of the presidency of the United States. Shes kind of a tough act to follow there, ramesh. Kind of . Let me say sure. One thing Sarah Huckabee sanders said is americans knew who they were electing when they got donald trump. Now, i found actually on the road that a lot of people really dont like these tweets but they seem to say, okay, well just ignore them or its juvenile, but, but, but. Right, you know, Joe Scarborough and brzezinski wrote an oped in the Washington Post where in response to his tweets where among other things he doesnt seem like the same man that they knew two years ago and while i dont know President Trump as well as they do, i havent spent quite as much time in his company as they have, havent been as chummy, they i think theyre wrong about that. I think that trump is acting exactly the way he showed himself to be for the preceding 70 years on this earth. And so sanders is right. People did know this is what we were getting. They either supported him, knowing this despite it and some cases because of it or they voted against him because of things like this. But its just its crazy to expect this is going to change. One of the things weve learned about him is that he is totally obsessed by the media. He is he is like the media critic in chief. He watches more cable news than people who work in cable news do and hes extremely thin skinned about it. And thats one of the things i think that set him off against brzezinski. She was making rather her own juvenile personal attacks on trump, and he responded just like a Junior High School kid. And, anna, i know a lot of voters got what they wanted and they liked these tweets and they liked him going after the media, but how does this reflect on republican lawmakers . Should they be speaking out more . I think you have seen some of them obviously in the latest round of tweets speak out against them. I think the bigger issue, though, is truly what this means for his agenda, right . If hes going to go after the media and, you know, kind of rail on that day after day what about health care, what about the trump travel ban that went into effect . What about the fact that they havent been able to get any of these major bills passed which in the 2018 midterm elections will be a much bigger problem for republicans. Jake, i will say the people on that i spoke to in the last couple of days were somewhat annoyed by the tweets but did talk about the fact, look, you know, were concerned about health care. Thats what were concerned about. Imagine if he used his platform to talk about those issues, right . I mean the Health Care Bill is nowhere. Its flailing in the senate. Theres no infrastructure plan. Theyve not started tax reform. The government runs out of money in a couple of months and the debt ceiling is not lifted. Those are big issues to deal with that have nothing to do with cable news, and i think the president would be wise according to republicans i talk to on capitol hill they say the president would be wise to back off. And, of course go ahead. On this point because i hear this a lot. I hear that same thing from republicans. And i just think its a little bit of fantasy land because the idea that the alternative here is that trump is going to be tweeting a bunch of convincing arguments for the Health Care Bill and going to be selling this to the american public, i just think thats delusional of that. There is no evidence that he knows what is in this Health Care Bill in that level of detail. Its not going to you know, if you look at the media sites that are most interested, they dont care about the Health Care Bill. Theyre not interested in these policy debates. I dont think it was delusional for many republicans and many people who voted for him to think that when he walked into that oval office the weight and gravitas of that office would transform him into a president ial figure. It is not happening and after six months i think its time to lose hope and i do think republicans have to be a lot more assertive. I think that words like disturbing and disappointed have to be erased from their vocabulary and changed for \unacceptable and, you know, republicans have got to take more action. I wish the republican women in congress would call for a meeting with him and would explain to him what it does to hear those words being used about a woman. What it means for children to be using his words and terms to bully others in school. Reports that we have seen are happening. This is affecting our moral fiber. We cannot let it go. Ana, i do want to get to health care here. Jake, i just want you the senators obviously went home for recess without anything happening so whats the state of the bill now . Well, they have the bill kind of getting scored for budgetary impact. I think if you saw Mitch Mcconnell yesterday in kentucky, he was asked about Donald Trumps plan to rework the strategy to pass the bill. He said, wow, its really hard making America Great again. And this is senator Mitch Mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate. Listen, this bill is going to lay out for about ten days while lawmakers are back home in their districts and theyll hear peoples opinions and the longer it lays out according to people we talked to all the time on the hill, the harder it will be to get it through. Health care is an extremely difficult topic, a hard topic, an expensive topic. This is quickly going to become 2009 democrats obamacare as soon as this is going to you know, its out there for weeks, months, this is going to be the noose on republicans heads when they go every single time. What are the chances President Trump will have a bill to sign by the end of the year . If you talk to republicans on capitol hill, they are hopeful but not terribly hopeful. Theyre optimistic but still there are he could only afford to lose a couple republican votes in the senate and then you go to the house which is more conservative where its going to be an even tougher squeeze so, you know, i dont like to make predictions because the prediction game is a dangerous game to get into but all i can tell you is republicans are seriously concerned. And democrats and republicans, you heard governor kasich say lets all come together. Lets Work Together. How is that possible . Whats the incentive for those . I dont see any evidence that either party is really interested in that right now, and partly its because theyre just too far apart on the underlying issues. I mean the democrats would be perfectly happy if the republicans would all accept a democratic bill which basically just funneled more subsidies into obamacare and republicans dont want to do anything that doesnt cut taxes, cut spending and deregulate. Theres a real clash of visions here but i do think that its possible that they could get together and i think if something does pass the senate, i think it likely will pass the house because it will have to have significant conservative support from people like ted cruz, people like mike lee and if it has that support i think it gets the conservatives okay. We have much more to talk about later in the show but well be back with all of that later so first President Trump set for his first facetoface meeting with Russias Vladimir Putin this week so how will the two get along and will trump confront putin over last years Election Hacking . Well cover it from all angles with our panel of russia experts and the president s Homeland Security adviser. Were right back in two minutes. Announcer this week with George Stephanopoulos brought to you by the maker of nexgard. Nexgard. Flea and tick protection is powerful from nexgard. Nexgard kills fleas and ticks all month long. 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I think so, yeah, i think so. That was then candidate trump. One year ago claiming he had never met with Russias Vladimir Putin after saying in 2013 that he had. We know they will be meeting this week when they both travel to germany for the g20 meeting of World Leaders so what can we expect . I sat down with three experts for their insights into the u. S. russia relationship, Illinois Republican congressman adam kinzinger, a member of the house Foreigns Affairs committee. Robin wright, a contributor writer for new yorker who has been traveling to russia since the Reagan Administration and peter baker chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times and author of obama the call of history who previously served as Moscow Bureau chief for the Washington Post. I want to start with you, robin. We now know that President Trump will be meeting putin on the sidelines, i guess, of the g20. What do you expect from that meeting . I think its going to be primarily on the sidelines. I think the white house actually doesnt want to do more than what they call lance the boil to try to break the impasse, get the two men in the same room, but i was told by one u. S. Official that they dont want to even see the two men sit down with each other. They want this to be a brief meeting. Theyre standing up, they go over probably three or four different issues. One is ukraine. Second is syria. Third is isil and a fourth, some kind of mention of the hacking issue in some nunced way. How do you do that . How do you really lance that boil . Does that mean he gets really aggressive . How do you do it . Doesnt seem like thats his style with putin. Every time people want to, his own staff urges him to he tends to go friendly instead and you remember for him personal chemistry matters a lot so thats one thing well look for. Do they have personal chemistry. We saw it with chinas leader and the king of saudi arabia. We saw it with Bibi Netanyahu and whether he can actually establish a connection with Vladimir Putin that doesnt seem politically perilous is the interesting question. Congressman, what do you want to see from that meeting . I want to see its one thing to talk. Thats fine. I meet with ambassadors from all these countries in my role as a member of congress, and you always have better relationships with those you actually personally get along with. Thats matters. If there is chemistry as was mentioned between the two maybe that can bode for something but i think the president needs to be very clear to Vladimir Putin. Lets try to discover areas we can Work Together. Thats fine. Were two were a world power. Theyre a great power arguably but at the same time were not going to give any ground. We have to defend our nato allies. Youre bombing hospitals with precision munitions in syria which is totally unacceptable. You were complacent in the use of chemical weapons. Youre propping up a regime that is perpetuating isis and thats not acceptable to us so i think have personal chemistry great but also be tough. My bet is its a very brief meeting, you know, no more than half an hour. They dont want him actually to go in by himself. They dont want to see ray repeat of the 1986 meeting between reagan and gorbachev which everyone had high hopes for on disarmament but broke down in a terrible collapse over the issue of star wars so theyre trying to prevent that dynamic where they both come in strongwilled. One is russia first, one is America First and they find out theres actually very Little Common ground. Peter, you used to live there. Yeah. He comes in this meeting how . He comes into this meeting trying to take the measure of this new president. This is the fourth president hes going to have worked with, clinton, bush, obama and now trump. He respects toughness. He doesnt respect weakness. He decided rightly or wrongly that obama was not a tough guy, and the question is whether or not trump acts tough. We know he can. Right . We dont know whether he will. Putin is going to be taking his measure. How much can he get away with . This is not exactly what putin would have wanted. He wanted sanctions to be lifted. He wanted a better relationship with the United States. Politically thats impossible now for President Trump even if he wanted to, so what hes going to look at this meeting and say, what can i get what can i get out of trump . How do i work with him or how do i work past him . So if you were putin, how would you manipulate him or try to get around him from putin knows how to run the kgb playbook. He knows how to work people so i would appeal to the president s, you know, selfimage. Thats i think how you can get to the president if youre Vladimir Putin. If im the president , im going to be very aware of that and again theres nothing wrong with getting along. But what Vladimir Putin hes a smart guy. I dont like him. Smart guy. He is going to advance the cause of russia until he hits a brick wall. Hes hit a brick wall in a few areas. I think we need to make it clear your growth of the former soviet union is over. You can be a great power thats respected. Fine. But this is not going to be the Old Soviet Union and youre meeting a new president now thats willing to stand up to that. Knowing that theres this investigation going on, knowing that, you know, people are saying hes not tough enough, can he overreact . How do you walk that line . It will be interesting. What will trump say about putin. Right . Remember, bush, president bush got in trouble for saying he had seen into his soul. He was seen as being too gullible in that sense. Trump cant afford politically at home you would think to seem too friendly with him because people will say, wait a second. This just shows this has been putin comes in much stronger than trump does. Of course. I think its been interesting though because theres been a lot of talk about him not being tough on russia. The actions of this administration and Vladimir Putin and President Trump are actually some of the toughest russian hawk type measures ive seen from this government in a very long time. But i think if we back away i will raise holy hell on it because it is very important for us to make a statement that russia does not meddle not just in our elections here and the future but in our allies. Peter, when you look at his Foreign Policy team, are their voices really being heard . You have some of the people on the staff around the president skeptical about russia. Theyve discovered as you saw with the meeting with sergey lavrov, the foreign minister where they released those pictures of the smiles with the staff only matters so much. In the end theres only so far they can go in directing a president. Its going to be up to him to decide what he wants to do and how he wants this meeting to play out. And, robin, i want to go back to something you said. You said putin goes in with a stronger position. Absolutely. And even when you hook at the recent pew poll that looked at Favorability Ratings among World Leaders and both Vladimir Putin and the president in china were viewed by the International Community as having being willing to do the right thing more than the american president. Donald trump only came in with 22 . So putin is much stronger and trump looks very vulnerable at the moment both at home and in the International Community. Congressman, i want youre air force reserve. Yeah. Youve been up there flying. What did you fly . Rc26. Still flying. Okay. Of course, youre in the reserves, there you go so you flew the rc26. Still flying the rc26. When you see what the russians are doing buzzing our airplanes, intercepting our airplanes, i know a lot of that is normal. We do it too. But lately it seems like theres been a lot more unsafe and unprofessional behavior. Its true and, you know, these are kind of old cold war tactics, both sides do it. When you have a plane that comes within five feet of i think a kc135, thats not intentional. Thats a bad pilot thats not really good at intercepts and when you come within five feet thats when it becomes dangerous. You have a military of Vladimir Putin thats not well trained and this could escalate to some sort of incident. So whats our policy right now if you had to explain to somebody towards russia . In some ways on paper its not that different than president obamas, which is find ways to Work Together where you have shared interests, you know, be tough in areas where you have conflicts, whether it be syria, ukraine and so forth. Whether its actually executed or not and how its executed is the real question. I dont know if i could describe our russian policy, i couldnt have described it under president obama and probably couldnt have described it under george w. Bush. Look, theyre a competitor, a strong nation, something we need to recognize but their economy is just a little bit bigger than illinois so theyre not our equal. I think its important to engage them and i think its important that we continue to fight for human rights which is essential to denying the next generation of terrorists their recruits and this is a longterm fight were in when it comes to the war on terror and i think the russians are exacerbating this by making people displaced and killing families and thats how you lead the radicalization. I think its still evolving. The danger i think is that the russians look at donald trump and theyre going to play him and im not sure we know how to counter that or that we have the clout or leverage to do it. 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I want to get to security questions and security concerns, but weve just had the president tweet a jff that i want you take a look at. You can see it right there. Whats going to happen . Obviously President Trump has taken some video and put a cnn logo on who hes beating up. Can i get your reaction to that . Well, my first time seeing it but first thank you for having me on the show. I very much appreciate it. My first reaction to that tweet would be the same as any of the president s tweets. Theres a lot of cable news shows that reach directly into hundreds of thousands of viewers and not always fair to the president so im proud of the president for developing a twitter and social media platform where he can talk directly to the American People. In fact, hes the most genuine president and the most nonpolitician president that weve seen in my lifetime and hes demonstrated whatever the content of that particular tweet is or any tweet, hes demonstrated a genuine ability to communicate to the people. He certainly can communicate to the people. But i want to ask you is that the kind of communication you want that hes beating up on somebody . Well thats hes beating up on the media. Youre in charge of Homeland Security. That seems like a threat. Certainly not, though. I think no one would perceive that as a threat. I hope they dont but i do think hes beaten up in a way on cable platforms that he has a right to respond to and he does that regularly. You dont think thats a threat to anyone. You dont think thats sending a message do that to the media or do that to cnn . No, i certainly dont. I dont think so and more importantly here hes a genuine president expressing himself genuinely and i think thats why he was electioned to be honest. Hes the most genuine person and people see politicians and him and find him to be someone they can understand and relate to. I got to stay on this for a minute. Sarah sanders said the president has never promoted or encouraged violence. If anything, quite the contrary. Hes simply pushing back defending himself but you know what happened to congressman scalise and you have these messages out there against the media. The media has had and i hate this to be all about us but hes making it about us or particularly cnn, i suppose. Some people had to get private security guards. Is that really fair . Yeah, so i think that the most important part of my message isnt just that hes genuine. Its that hes found a way of communicating directly to the people without going through whatever the media but i understand that. Im talking about the message, not how he communicates. But its a good example of you or the media producers here deciding what it is we talk about and what it is we dont talk about, so with respect, i think that thats why he needs to go around you and the producers that control the message and directly to the people and whatever he cares about speaking about that day and occasionally he cares to speak about those cable programs that are beating up on him unfairly. And with respect, we do talk about other issues and then when Something Like this comes up, it distracts from what we wanted to really talk about. Youre a very substantive person. I know were going to talk about substantive issues. I appreciate you and i appreciate you answering that. So lets talk about something thats on the minds of americans and weve watched overseas and weve watched in syria. Weve watched in iraq and were really pushing back isis, but weve also seen a great number of terrorist attacks around the globe from australia to the uk. Weve got the july 4th holiday. I know theres always sort of a heightened security because of that. These large gatherings, should americans be concerned . Well, americans should be concerned that were seeing a growing threat environment across the globe. Weve got a jihadi Globalist Movement that we cant predict and were seeing it manifest itself in ways that are extremely daunting to Law Enforcement authorities, three actors with knives are very difficult to thwart and interdict. We dont have as you heard the mayor say earlier today at a federal or state level any credible actionable intelligence so as people set out this weekend to enjoy their independence holiday with family members and with friends, i think that they should focus on that and feel safe and secure and at rest that were doing everything we can to protect them but i think they would be remiss in not understanding that the world we live is increasing in its threat environment and we spend an inordinate amount of time and resources as the United States but also as our partners trying to not only defeat isis and their control of the fiscal caliphate but the virtual space they own, their internet space. Theyre proselytizing and we have taken President Trump has taken a number of steps controversial and otherwise to protect americans. We talk about the enhanced security measures for all flights to the u. S. Yep. Laptops are banned on some of the flights but the laptop ban was not expanded. Tell me the calculus for that. Why you decide some flights, why not others . Yeah, so first let me say that the threat that weve talked about is real. It is extremely troubling. Its, on one hand, a trend that no one should be surprised with. Weve seen terrorists for some reason or another seek to go after our aviation sector since 9 11 with some zealotry, but this particular threat weve observed upon taking office has really alarmed us and secretary kelly and so the calculus here, i want to applaud secretary kelly quite a bit. The calculus here is that well never reduce risk to zero. Well never be completely safe and what we need to do is balance certain airports from places closer to the risk and we need to ban those devices that we think represent a problem to safe flight from those points of departure. But instead of as secretary kelly said playing whacamole with an underwear bomber here and a shoe bomber there and other kind of bomber, what hed like to do is implement a comprehensive increase in our Security Posture around the world. To be honest, this is the most comprehensive opportunity for Aviation Security improvement since 9 11. But when we hear about this threat, and it does sound very frightening, if theyre able to get laptops through, why not ban them all and not take the chance . We did that with liquids. Yes. So it it seems like there is a real danger here that you could solve by doing that. Absolutely something that weve considered and thats not off the table. But any Electronic Device represents an issue for Security Officials and we look at that in a very serious way but theres also competing interests here of trying to allow people to travel safely and conveniently and so what weve done is instead of going after certain airports and certain Electronic Devices secretary kelly has given the entire world an opportunity to increase their Security Posture. The entire world of all points of departure and if they do that well probably buy down a significantly larger amount of risk than if we focus on one laptop threat at a time. And i want to turn to cybersecurity. This weeks another major cyberattack, the Second Global attack weve had in recent weeks. Whats the latest on how this attack has affected the u. S. And do you have any idea who is behind it . I believe it started in ukraine so does that point the finger at russia . Yeah, so certainly many people have this is the same fundamental exploit we saw used in the recent wanna cry attack and that wanna cry cyberattack was particularly troubling to me and other Security Officials because it was incriminate. Indiscriminate. Whatever hacker launched it launched it without control of it and that was launched in a way that could hit any target. Those are things we look for as being particularly bad. Were lucky there were no deaths associated with that. If the russian government was behind this latest attack, it was a really silly and stupid move on their part because by and large russia was hit pretty hardly by it so if they were russian supportive hackers, the russian government should step up and take them to task. If they want to be treated seriously as people and as governments that want to act like likeminded professionals on the internet or be excluded from it if not. If the russian government did it themselves, then shame on them. Its unacceptable behavior. The president travels to germany this week to the g20 and hell meet with Vladimir Putin. Yep. Would you encourage the president to bring up this hacking with Vladimir Putin . Well, dont want to encourage the president to do anything right now. I think theres two things i would advise the president and ill tell you what they are. Weve got two of the Worlds Largest superpowers being in the same place at the same time. Its not unusual for them to meet. I think president obama met in the last five g20 summits with president putin. We dont know if this will be a long bilateral meeting or shorter pull aside at this point. Those details havent been set so in part that format of that meeting will dictate what they discuss and how they discuss it but i would say if there is an opportunity the president would recognize that we have an extremely low point relationship based on distrust right now and while we should condemn their cybersecurity behavior and we should condemn their behavior in the ukraine and sanction them for it and President Trump has said as much, he should also take opportunities to partner with them in ways that help us defeat isis and prevent the syrians from using chemical weapons. Okay, thanks so much for joining us this morning. Thank you, martha. Appreciate it. Good to see you. When we come back, more from the powerhouse roundtable looking ahead to the rest of President Trumps agenda. And were back now and were back now with the roundtable, and i have a feeling you guys are going to have a little different comment than tom bossert had about that gif. Lets look at it again. This happened just as we were ending our other roundtable. Oh, my god. Whats going to happen . Okay, ana, i got to start with you. I must say i think its unacceptable. I think that its the president of the United States taking things way too far. It is an incitement to violence. He is going to get somebody killed in the media. Maybe that will stop him. I am disappointed beyond belief by the answer that the Homeland Security adviser just gave. What a wuss. What a wuss. You could see he is ceding his principles. You are the Homeland Security adviser and you cant stand here and say the difference between right and wrong. Thats whats part of the problem. He is surrounded by enablers that do nothing but shake their heads and nod their heads in agreement with everything he says. They have got to stop. They have got to stand for democracy, for freedom of the press. This is just going way too far. The president of the United States is inciting violence against the free press and america, we cannot stand for it. Anna. I mean it is just kind of theater of the absurd, right . I dont think any of us would have thought that this is something that the president , any president would do. In particular it comes right as you mention after the shooting of Steve Scalise. Republicans and democrats, it is time to take the rhetoric down a notch. And this clearly does not do that. And everyone that we spoke to on the hill right after that incident said the president was actually quite good on that stage. He was reassuring, he called for the country to get together. He gave a really good speech and visited the hospital to see Steve Scalise and now this. Listen, i know a lot of people who work for cnn who have to be scared and wondering why the president has decided to physically pummel somebody with the cnn logo on his face. So it will be interesting to get some reaction. Nobody at cnn is scared. If anything, this is making each and every one of us more resolute not to cower at the bullying of this president. This is a free press. This is a free country. This is a democracy. And if he thinks that with these little tricks he will scare jeff zucker, hes going to scare anybody at cnn, hes got Something Different coming. We are resolute for continuing to search for the truth, speaking the truth and calling out right versus wrong. Ana, im sitting here thinking now what do americans think when they look at that . What are those voters think who i talked to in ohio . I know that when we talk about ourselves and we say, oh, its terrible that hes going after the media but that pummeling somebody from cnn. Well, i think that my guess is the president doesnt regard this as literally inciting people to violence. Im sure he thinks its funny. And i think that most people see it and they think pro of this they think thats sort of what hes getting at here. The problem is that its just its more juvenile behavior. Its something that most people including a lot of his own supporters want him to quit doing and he cant do it. You know, i didnt agree with the way Thomas Bossert was talking about this, but i think hes right that it is genuine in the sense that he is showing us genuinely who the president is. Ramesh, this is not funny. Look, theres way i didnt say it was. Theres way he cant think its funny. Theres way too many unstable people out in the streets right now at this time of impassioned and heightened passions. We all know it. Weve all seen it. We have seen the results of harassment and weve seen the results of shootings and seen the result of violence out in the street. And for the president of the United States who is supposed to be unifying this country on a july 4th weekend to be tweeting out incitement to violence, it is incitement to violence, let us not parse words. Let us not call it by any other name. It is disgusting by this president. Yet one more disgusting act. Well have to leave it there, thanks all of us. Thanks to all of you for joining us and happy july 4th. Well be right back after this from our abc stations. Thatss all for us today. Thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news tonight. Have a great day and have a happy and safe fourth. A happy and safe fourth. Up next, we are learning more about the suspect in a crash that left two children dead. His bail is now set as he faces several charges. Preparing for possible fireworksrelated fires. How firefighters are urging people to stay safe ahead h of this fourth of july holiday. Sgl we started the early morg with clouds, fog and drizzle. It is a live view from emoryville its been awhile since you first knew. Theres something very different about you. You have the power to make your marshmallow wishes. Come true. 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