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Hideout. All that, plus the powerhouse roundtable. And that nobel prize stunner here today. All of you are telling us and all of the evidence coming in this week is proving that point. Government now shut down for at least two weeks. Americans face the risk of default. Right now, hopes for a deal to avert that cat strophe rest with two leaders that havent always been on speaking terms. Starting with abcs chief White House Correspondent jonathan karl. Jon, the president s talks with speaker of the house collapsed friday. This Senate Leader negotiation is the only game in town. Reporter thats right. Its the only game in town. A game thats not going well. The two men are trying to craft an agreement that would keep the government open and postpone default until november 1st. Republicans have given up almost all of the demands that led to this crisis, major changes to obama care are not even on the table right now. But the talks broke down yesterday, over democratic demands from harry reid to increased spending. Reid wants to end most of those spending cuts that were put in place under the sequester as part of this deal. And george, keep in mind that, as these two men hold the key to whether or not this is solved or not, that these two have seen their relations deteriorate so much that they have barely been on speaking terms. At the same time, senator mcconnell is sending out signs that he wants a deal. Reporter going into these talks yesterday, mcconnell was already preparing for a backlash from the tea party republicans. He gave an interview with a local newspaper in lexington, kentucky, saying that he wants a cometogether moment with democrats. As much as i would rather have a republican president and would rather be the majority leader of the senate, im willing to work with the government we have not the one we wish we had. Mcconnell is willing to crave in most things, but i dont think hes ready to give in to spending cuts. Jon karl, thanks very much. Lets get more on the economic fallout from our business and economic correspondent rebecca jarvis. Any sense of how these latest developments are going to go down . George, more downside than upside potential. What we saw last week, the market cheering on the news that House Republicans had put something on the table as far as the debt limit was concerned, even though it was short term the markets like that, now, when you look at the upside, ahead of the october 17th deadline, you have a 1 potential for upside. 1 upside potential in the markets if it looks like a deal is getting done. But the Downside Potential is much more dramatic. Ahead of the october 17th deadline, we could see the markets drop 2 , even 3 , if it looks like a deal isnt getting done. But, again, george, this isnt what happens ahead of object 17th. October 17th is dday. And after that all bets are off . After that, all bets are off. Every bank on wall street has been gaming this out. They have war rooms set up. Theyre thinking about their exposure to this. We could see a disorderly decline in the markets then, were talking 500, 600 points of downside as far as the dow is concerned. Rebecca jarvis, thanks very much. Now, from the congress, three very distinct perspectives. Republican senator Lindsey Graham, democratic congressman Keith Ellison and republican congressman raul labrador. Leader among house conservatives. Senator graham, let me begin with you, you were working on a deal with democrats and republicans in the senate, it seemed to collapse yesterday, shot down by the democratic leader harry reid. Right now, is there any deal that could get through both houses of congress and signed by the president . I dont see one. If you break the spending cap youre not going to get any republicans in the senate. What im worried a deal comes out of the senate, that compromises Speaker Boehners leadership. When this is over, do we really want to compromise john boehner leader of the house . I dont think so. Understanding that defunding obama care and delaying for a year is not a realistic possibility now. Thats a pretty high bar. Let me bring that to congressman labrador, the democrats have been absolutely clear thats not going to happen, you dont have a majority for that. You know, it seems strange and were four days away from breaching the debt ceiling. We gave the president a pretty good offer. The offer is we would actually extend the debt ceiling without any requirement for six weeks. We can continue negotiations on the debt and continue negotiations on the continuing resolution. The actual budget and the actual spending bill that we need to do. I dont see why the president is not accepting that and why hes not working with us. I think its been very difficult to work with him, he wouldnt even come to the table to negotiate. Now that hes coming to the table, he rejected two offers. I thought that the house offer was a pretty reasonable one. Im surprised that he also rejected the senate offer. Well, i mean, its very simple, we can negotiate and talk all we want to after we reopen the government. As a matter of fact, we can open the government and can have any kind of discussions over anything they want. We got to reopen the government and pay america debts. Lets not forget, george, this whole thing started when republicans say we want to delay, repeal the Affordable Care act, which gives millions of americans insurance reform and access to health care. Including about 200,000 in idaho. And now, theyre saying unless we stop all that, then theyre not going to open the government and thats not realistic. Let me bring that to senator graham, you just said thats unrealistic, senator graham, to exhibit any changes in obama care. So, how can you convince House Republicans like congressman labrador right here, that there could be some kind of agreement that doesnt include that. Give democrats most of what they want. At the end of the day, i really do believe that the democrats have moved the goalpost twice in the senate. Were in a freefall as republicans. But democrats are not far behind and after listening to all of us talk, now probably understand why 60 americans want to vote all incumbents out. To my colleagues in the senate, were ruining both institutions. Its unrealistic to expect us to defund or delay obama care by shutting the government down. But the fight on obama care is far from over. After this mess is behind us, obama care will be a liability for democrats and the Government Shutdown we can survive if were smart. Paul ryan is working on a plan that could start in the house, that i think would be, involving very Good Government proposals, to prevent future shutdowns. In terms of correcting the problem and quite frankly putting every member of congress in the same plan. On the same terms as all americans. I hope that would come from the house let me bring that to congressman ellison. Its better to start in the house. Congressman ryan has talked about perhaps relieving some of the pain of the sequester in terms of entitlement reforms, can democrats accept that . Well, its all about details. Lets see. We cant say i cannot support saying that were going to diminish and lower Social Security in exchange for i dont know anything. I mean, these folks who exist on that are already on meager amounts of income, so were not going to inflict more pain on them. Its all in the mix. Lets reopen the government. Lets pay americas debts. But it will be us giving and taking and them giving and taking. Not a situation like we have now, which is, we will stop inflicting pain on america if you get rid of health care which brings insurance reform and access to millions of americans. We cant do that. Congressman labrador, if the government is opened again, extends the debt limit deal for several months, its not the kind of deal that majority of republicans, will there be retaliation against Speaker Boehner from house conservatives if he schedules that vote . I dont think so. First of all, whatever passes the house of representatives is going to have the majority of house. Keith said he wants us to reopen the government. He wants us to go ahead and vote on the debt ceiling. But hes unwilling to talk about what hes willing to negotiate on. Hes unwilling to tell you what things hell be working on remember when its your job, raul. No. Remember when the president said he was for change in cpi. Social security. Every democrat in Congress Every single democratic senator said they wouldnt do it. This is the problem that we have. Any time we talk about entitlement reforms, democrats will only do it if we raise taxes. Every time we talk about the real spending problem, if you look at obama care, the president and his administration have given exemptions to their friends, to businesses, and all were asking is to give the same exemption to the American People. I dont think thats too much to ask for. We can talk about all of these things once we reopen the government and pay americas debts. Improve the Affordable Care act and there are things that i propose that we do to improve even socalled entitlement reform. What if we negotiated drug prices as opposed to just locked in and let the pharmaceutical industry charge what they want. Thats thing that i could do. There are numbers of things that we could do but we cannot do it under the gun as we are now. We just offered you a sixweek extension of the debt limit. Six weeks is no good. You want to do this again in six weeks . Raul, thats crazy. I want to take one final question to senator graham. It looks like were almost there. You got democrats and republicans right there. I can see a bill coming together. Tension between Senate Republicans and House Republicans. I was struck by this tweet. By robert costa. The political dynamic now between house rs and senate rs. Is tense. Senator rs feel like cantor. To sand strong is a middle finger. The truth is, we started down the road with unrealistic expectations. The government has shut down, obama care is still up but not running very well. What breaks my heart is that, for the last 12 days you have had a complete meltdown of the portal called obama care, the whole system is just not working. And were overshadowing how badly obama care has been rolled out. But, as between the house and the senate, we really do share a common goal of trying to replace and repeal obama care over time. We never had the leverage through the shutdown to repeal or replace. That was unrealistic. Our democratic friends keep moving the goalpost in the senate, thinking theyre winning. My belief is, paul ryan should lead this effort with john boehner to pass something out of the house that doesnt delay or defund be would be Good Government. But as between house and Senate Republicans, the sooner this over the better for us guys and to our democratic friends, you own obama care, and its going to be the political gift that keeps on giving. So, the shutdown will be old news next year. Obama cares faults will be front and center in 2014. If we dont screw this up. That will have to be the last word this morning. Thank you, george. Those interviews just moments ago. Now to the roundtable. Peggy noonan, david plouffe, dan senor, and paul krugman. Welcome to all of you. Peggy, let me begin with you, senator graham didnt sugarcoat it all, theyre ruining both institutions. Yet, there doesnt seem to be a way out . Yeah, its fascinating that nobody seems to know where this thing goes and how it ends. I mean, it is a crisis, normally people have a sense of it. I think Lindsey Graham was very correct when he said we all be better off and the republicans will be better off when this particular shutdown ends. I think, look, people dont like these things. They like it when government works. Both parties suffer when stuff like this happens. But the essential point that nobody knows where this goes is the great mystery of this battle. And were getting so close, paul krugman. And republicans do seem to be trying to negotiate, led by mitch mcconnell. First of all, i think its important, its not exactly october 17th. If we wake up thursday morning and they havent defaulted yet, that was a false alarm. It could hurt before october 17th. Yeah, probably not. It probably runs it may well run a few more days. But the point is, thi is very close. Were very close to the edge. The democrats, the thing that you get, always from them, is their basic principal, we dont give anything under the threat of extortion. The republicans want a fig leaf and that fig leaf has to involve, we got something for our extortion. Much more than the details of the budget is a stumbling block, whatever happens, the democrats say, you lift the extortion threat, then we negotiate. As long as the debt ceiling is still in play and the Government Shutdown is still a condition for other stuff its not a deal. Dan senor, you have been a close adviser to paul ryan, the congressman, former Vice President ial candidate, his experience this week points at the dilemma. He comes forward with a plan, unacceptable to democrats, yet he gets hammered by his own side. Right, he gets hammered in the blogosphere. But house consecutives have been behind him. What hes saying, hes calling the president s bluff. He said, look, we need to get through this period, mr. President. Lets agree on reforms that you have been for, you know, increasing contributions of federal employees. These are all proposals that were in the president s budget 2014. You said you want these things. You say you want to do real reform. Its not as massive as savings as paul would have preferred. But hes telling the House Republicans, lets call the president s bluff. David plouffe, you worked closely with president obama. He thinks that the consequences of negotiating are even more severe than the consequences of actual default, does he really mean that . Well, obviously, he takes the threat of default seriously. After what we went through in 2011, we got this close to default, no president wants to do this again. We have to take the threat of default off the table. Reopen the government. The question is right now, i do think that theres a possibility of something coming out of the senate that could get 70, 75 votes, but if boehner insists doing this with most of his caucus, i dont think the tea party is capable of reopening the government. I think the notion that this going to be easily solved this week. My son said, i have been writing, republicans made a mistake, they picked a fight. They had no strategy, they had no endgame, they had no plan. Thats what it is, it was a mistake. That having been said, i think the president has made countermistakes. Not only in the famous stories of the things that were forcibly shut down. In the shutdown and all that stuff. But the sense that hes communicated, hey, im not having a conversation, were not having negotiations. President s have to negotiate on debt limits. They have to own it. We have all seen we have worked in white houses. We have seen president s do this. You call what the other side does to you extortion. But it really is an argument, and a deal and attend, you trade some horses. Nothing like this has ever happened before. All of the alleged former examples there was a budget deal that included a debt ceiling raise. The debt ceiling wasnt a hostage or once once tip oneill held up the debt ceiling for one day as symbolism. There was never before a case where one party pushed the u. S. Government to the edge of default. Demanding concessions in return. Every attempt to make this sound business as usual, this is not. This is out of the experience. It is more heightened but its still part business as usual because it takes place within the context of an american president having to deal with the reality around him. Opposite party having to deal with the fact that he has the presidency, he has the executive, make the deal. Political reality here as well, pretty striking, the wall street journal poll, i want to go through some of the numbers right here. It shows the Republican Party taking much of the brunt. 53 blame the republicans. The view of the Republican Party, 24 positive right now. According to the pollsters of the wall street journal. 24 positive. Only 14 of the country thinks were going in the right direction right now, and as Lindsey Graham cited early, 60 of the country would replace every Single Member of congress. Dan senor, republicans taking a fall greater hit, dont they have to figure out a way to end this dynamic . Absolutely. Theres no doubt that this damaging to the republican brand, that said, a year from now, this will have long resolved and i dont think voters will be talking about this shutdown and the dysfunction. What people will be talking about is the failed implementation of obama care. There are very few house seats that are really in play. Tiny percentage of republicans members in districts that president obama won. There are six democratic seats that need to be defended. So, the feel both in the house and senate is much more favorable to republicans. I think this is a bad moment for republicans. I think it will pass. I think the feel the history of the party out of the white house winning i want to Say Something about that. The obama care thing will also be long passed. They messed up the software for the federal version of it. But we have the exchanges working fine in most states. California has a functional exchange. If you can do it for 30 Million People, you can do it for 300 million. So, obama care will be working fine. Another threat of what you just pointed out, when i look at these deals being negotiated right now, a fourmonth extension of the government funding resolution, a sixmonth extension of the debt limit. David plouffe, i look at that and say, this is not going to be over from a year from now. If predicated on longterm budget negotiations, arent we going to be back in the same place . We can completely destroy the economy around the holiday seasons. It makes no sense. And we got to remember, were already at republican budget levels. This was not a budget discussion, peggy, this was they wanted to inject health care into the debate. I think these numbers are damaging in the long term for republicans. I think you have to understand, theyre facing already fatal demographic numbers. And you add this into the mix here, youve got suburban women, are really souring on the Republican Party. For their politics, listen, America Needs a functional a functioning Republican Party again youre seeing that sense of frustration really growing. Those commonsense people who want to govern not destroy the government will have their voices raised. The governors are key. Everywhere you go among republicans, they Start Talking about whats happening in washington, the house and the senate and then they go, our governors are great. Indeed, theres much excitement there and i think the future of the party, 2016 is there. Paul, i got to tell you, i dont think i disagree with your point on obama care, i think for the next year, as dan said, its going to be a big wound. Theres too much connecting to it thats going to be a constant grind of tension. One thing, Congress Passes things and they get special benefits and American People dont get it. Thats not true. The main point is that software its more than software. They have them stitched together web platforms. For the department of justice, health and human services, in order to make this enrollment work. Its a technology disaster. The architect of the website said in march, well be lucky if this thing doesnt look like a third world experience. The thing is, again a state with more than 30 million, has a perfectly functioning exchange, that says this is doable. That says theyll fix it. I cant imagine. To davids point on the republican brand, the changing demographics, again, i think the house will stay in republican hands. I think its a tossup in terms of where the senate winds up in 2014. You look at 2016, you look at the people thinking about running, chris christie, is going to have a doubledigit win next month. Susan martinez, governor of new mexico. Scott walker, i mean, the idea that republicans, who are actually working on things are somehow damaged by all of this chaos in washington we got to take a minute left. Quickly around the table, is there a deal before thursdays deadline, do the consequences of default start to kick in . I think theres no better than 50 50. The country needs to prepare that this could go on for a while. I think the house is nervous, the senate is nervous, and the white house is nervous. Nobody knows how this end or exactly when. But there will be great pressure to clean this up especially if damning polls continue to come out. Its no better than 50 50. The positive 50 comes entirely from the likelihood that the markets are going to Say Something very loud when they open tomorrow. I think theyll get through it 37 republicans will get through this and move to the debate on obama care. And well see if House Speaker john boehner survives that kind of a vote. Thank you very much. Next, hollywood takes on Julian Assange in a new movie and founder of wikileaks fires back live from his london hideout. Later that nobel prize surprise. The chemical weapons inspectors who won and why they were chosen. And whats next for the young girl who came so close, malala. [ woman ] my father loved the sea. He taught me that whales leave footprints, glassy circles on the surface that show us where theyve been and sometimes where theyre going. He would always say, if you know where youre headed, you can make the smart choices to help you get there. And his legacy has helped me achieve my goals. 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Guess what, im reporting civilian casualties. Countless incidents of friendly fire, this is information that the world needs to know. The scene from the fifth estate. New movie tracking the complicated story of wikileaks founder Julian Assange. Hes taken some shots at the film. Abcs linsey davis sat down with the actor to talk about that challenge and why he accepted the part. Reporter until now, british actor Benedict Cumberbatch has been recognized in the bbcs sherlock. And most recently, hes captain kirks nemesis in star trek into darkness. Quite a departure from his starring role in the new film the fifth estate. As wikileaks founder Julian Assange. Attempting to criticize the messenger is to distract from the power of the message. Reporter playing assange is complex enough. The same whistleblower was opposed to the movie. The difficulty was trying to portray him as a threedimensional human being. Not vilify him or glorify him. Reporter so you reach out to him trying to get a fix on his character and how does assange respond . He slammed the door pretty quietly, but pretty firmly. Reporter an email written to cumberbatch from assange in which he says, i believe that youre a good person, but i do not believe that fill system a good film. By meeting with you, i would validate this wretched film and endorse the talented but debauched performance that the vipt will force you to give. The story and his character and this particular moment in time was needed, wikileaks achieved great, great things. I think the film celebrates that. I think its far more diversive than the perspective he feared it would be. Reporter how do you play a man that refuses to meet you . Its hard. You have to make leaps of faith and you have to connect the dots. Reporter you have said before, were all citizens of democracy, how aware of you are the snowdens and the issues that surround this debate . Very. Were living in a time, in order to fight terrorism, were eroding Civil Liberties at a rate thats alarming. Its difficult. I think it needs to debate. Reporter debate precisely what he believes the fifth estate will provoke. This is information that the world needs to know. Reporter for this week, linsey davis, abc news, new york. The fifth estate is be distributed by Touchstone Pictures and with that, lets continue the debate. Lets turn to Julian Assange. You heard Benedict Cumberbatch there, he said that he tried to glorify nor vilify you. Celebrate the great things that wi wikileaks has done. Do you accept that . Well, mr. Cumberbatch wrote me a charming, very polite letter and with genuine concerns about the nature of the script being used in that film. Hes reported to have said to vogue and to the guardian, that he had fights with his director, who wanted to present me as a quote, cartoon batty, that was mr. Cumberbatchs words. But of course, hes under a contract and hes limited to what he can say in the film. I do know that he tried to enumerate some of the worst elements of the script. But, unfortunately, with limited success. What is your biggest complaint of the film . Well, i dont know where to begin, we released the whole script well before this happened. There was no approach to us by dreamworks, other than an informal approach, by Benedict Cumberbatch just days before shooting began. This is a film that is based upon my lifes work, the work of my organization, we have people in extremely serious situations, Sarah Harrison who companied Edward Snowden out of hong kong now effectively in exile in russia because of the terrorism investigation here. Jeremy, an alleged media source. To 25 media organizations. An ongoing grand jury investigation. What are the responsibilities for ethical filmmaking in that context . None of the suggested changes that we sent to Participant Media ended up even in the final text of the film. But theres been a big cashingin thats been going on. You mentioned a rich organization that is yeah. You mentioned sarah. This is a rich organization, dreamworks, that is making a lot of money and is continuing to make a lot of money from this process. But theres no contribution to our defense fund, to the defense fund of our alleged sources and so on. Lets move on to Sarah Harrison, shes with Edward Snowden. Snowden received an award from four american whistleblowers. Harrison, a prime member of wikileaks. Shes been with snowden throughout his time in russia. What can you tell about how Edward Snowden is doing right now . Whats next for him and Sarah Harrison . Edward snowden is safe. We through a lot of work, and particularly by Sarah Harrison, managed to gain him asylum in russia after our attempts of russia after our other attempts of gaining him asylum were denied. So, hes safe. Hes working to educate people. The journalists involved in these disclosures as to what is going on, he very rightly received that award from a former nsa cia, fbi, doj whistle blowers for integrity. Its a serious matter. Its a threat to u. S. Democracy and democracy more broadly in the west. To have a surveillance apparatus on every Single Person would be the dream. Of eastern at the same time, on those revelations of Edward Snowden came under strong attack from londons Andrew Parker who called the leaks a gift to the terrorists. Nsa chief keith alexeneder said people will die because of the leaks. Your response . Well, we have seen this for 50 years, every time the press embarrasses the security establishment shows they have been acting unlawfully, acting against what they have said to congress or to the media, they trout out this old when were discussing harm thats happening right now, as a result of these abusive programs. The budget procedure you mentioned just recently, an interesting side effect of that, the National Security agency has used the debate in congress to cancel, even its own internal investigation, but the people in the review panel are enumerating. Its quite interesting to see how they obama says, yes, we need to have a debate. But at the first instance they can, as soon as there is a distraction, they try and subvert their promises to the public. What is next for you, mr. Assange . Any chance youre going to leave that embassy any time soon . Well, i would leave this embassy, its a bit of prison in some way, but i have good people here, but where would i go to . I would end up in the outside world. Where you are. But what is happening to the outside world . Thats a much bigger consideration for me and my staff and the 12 different legal actions we have going in different countries. But its a consideration for everyone what type of place is western democracy going to be . Is it going to be a place with a collapsing rule of law with mass surveillance of entire populations . Or the practical elements of a totalitarian regime, we dont yet have that. But were getting pretty close. Is it going to cross over into Something Else . That would be a hard place for an investigation place like wikileaks to work in. Its a hard place glenn greenwald. Hes in exile in brazil. Sarah harrison, in exile in russia. Edward snowden, asylum in russia. Me, asylum here. The best and brightest who hold the government in account, are in asylum or exile in other countries. We have seen it before, dictatorships in latin america and soviet union. Your fight is going to continue. Up next a nobel prize surprise. Why did chemical weapons inspectors win the peace prize . And whats next for the inspiring runnerup malala . [ male announcer ] may your lights always be green. [ tires screech ] [ beeping ] may you never be stuck behind a stinky truck. 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This is knowledge. It can neither be eastern nor western. The young woman so many expected to win the Nobel Peace Prize this week, malala yousafzai. 16yearold pakistani girl who survived bullets insisting girls should receive education. It went instead to chemical weapons inspectors for the tough work they do around the work. But first, lets go to abc chief Foreign Correspondent terry moran in syria. Where the winners are doing their most crucial work. Good morning, terry. Reporter george, there are 28 Nobel Prize Winning chemical weapons inspectors on the ground here in da must kus. They have to locate and destroy syrias entire chemical weapons arsenal, more than 1,000 ammunitions. Do it in a few months in the middle of a raging civil war. We met with the team the night they won the prize, they are a closeknit bunch, not without a sense of humor. The chemical brothers they call themselves. But theyre under no illusions about this. They themselves are personally target. Many of the rebel and jihadist groups in this country dont want them here. They wanted the American Military strike that president obama promised. They thought that might help change the balance of power. In the war and lead them to victory. For many ordinary syrians the work of the chemical weapons inspectors is the work of peace. And they hope that it might offer the chance of a beginning of the end of their Long National agony. George . Thank you, terry. And for more on the Nobel Peace Prize announcement, were joined by david milibland. Thank you both of you for joining us. David, let me begin you, there has been criticism of this choice, do you think its justified . I think they do amazing work. The truth is, they probably wouldnt have gotten this prize if president assad hadnt used weapons. It takes the abuse of weapons denies that is to reinforce their work. But theres also a danger. 1400 people were killed with chemical weapons. 120,000 people have been killed in all, 7 Million People displaced from their homes and people like me running an organization, like the International Rescue committee were concerned that people think that chemical weapons being agressed the regional conflict. I mean 7 million. Think of a country like jordan, a big ally of the united states, 1600 refugees. Its like poland arriving in the united states. Its a massive hit to these shiza, how did malala take the announcement . She said if i ignore the nobel committees decision, i already feel like i won, because people all over the world have been sending in love and prayers. So she wasnt expecting it, she said i have a lot of work to do. And thats what shes focusing on and shes wished the opcw luck in their tremendous task. As you talk about the work that malala wants to do, if it not getting the nobel prize, was somehow a blessing in disguise, does it help her in her home country . Shes 16. Its a heavy burden to carry. She carries many burdens already. She has many, many years ahead of her to win the prize. In pakistan, people were hopeful and expecting it. I think it brought the nation together around a cause and it served its purpose with the nomination. She said at some point, she could see herself seeking elective office, but what is the focus right now for malala and the foundation . For malala its school and getting back to having some sort of a normal life which also carrying her campaign. To take her campaign forward with her vision which is really getting girls into school and helping them to be powerful agents of change. This is something that you all worked on when you were British Foreign secretary . Yes, its not a political revolutions that get the headlines. Its the education revolutions thats helping to change lives. And this spirit thats so evident in malalas work, truly inspiring work, is one of great hopes for progress. Of course, if you just go back to that syrian crisis, 300,000 kids in lebanon, boys and girls, syrian refugees, with no education. They need ngos to really mobilize. Because thats if were not careful, a forgotten and dangerous generation. Their potential as a generation is magnificent. But the danger is obviously very huge. Do you see hope in pakistan now . We do. We see malalas shooting really galvanized people to get up and say, i denounce terrorism, i name the groups that have done this attack, which had not been done in the past, and thousands of girls got up and say i am malala. That was revolutionary. And we see progress. Maybe back in a decade and see malala as a Nobel Peace Prize winner . I hope so. Organizations like the pakistani government, ngos theyre mobilizing for education in pakistan. Because its the future of that country. Big change. Thank you both very much. And next, senators get a surprise scolding from their chaplain. Its time for our lawmakers to say enough is enough. He tells us why in our sunday spotlight. Us why in our sunday spotlight. Let us pray. Oh, all right. Lord, give us strength. But especially to those in congress and let them stop being a bunch of knuckleheads that go on television and say all kinds of nonsense. Until you want to smack them across the face with a bag full of quarters and thats change i can believe in. [ laughter ] that is saturday night lives take of the man in this weeks sunday spotlight. Senate chaplain barry black. He unleashed a surprisingly sharp scolding to those he pastors. Abcs john donvan has more. Look upon with favor on president barack obama. You have seen him before, lots of time. We praise you, the giver of bountiful gifts. Reporter the prayer guy, big ceremonies, hes there. You didnt know his name before this, did you . Let us pray. Reporter until a few days back when the content of his prayers turned to the Government Shutdown. Save us from the madness. Reporter so that suddenly the prayers guy is making news. I think we have had slow news days, john. Reporter thats way too modest, because barry black, thats his name, is a former navy rear admiral, a ph. D. Psychologist. And the u. S. Senates 62nd official chaplain. Since 1789. Who gets the senate floor a minute a day to talk out loud to god. But lately. Forgive them for the blunders they have committed. Reporter but hes been informing god of some flaws he has seen in lawmakers. Like ending the shutdown for the nations sake and for gods sake deliver us from the hypocrisy of attempting to sound reasonable while being unreasonable. Reporter so, you want them to hear this conversation youre having with god . Well, the fact that they overhear is just one of the fortituous advantage. Of what i do. Reporter attend a Weekly Prayer Service with him and they also do bible study together. One senator came to me and said, chaplain, i hope our lawmakers are listening because i have been following your prayers very, very closely, for the last four or five days, and theyre really making a difference in my reflections. Reporter indeed of the several senators we asked, all said theyre good with his recent focus. He has the respect of everybody, democrats and republicans. I think were lucky to have barry black. When i grow up i want to be just like barry black. Reporter but the shutdown continues. During which, the man who prays is not getting paid. Youre still showing up . Thats pretty special. Right, thats not going to buy the lunch . Youll be amazed what it can do for the fish. Reporter that tells us what were praying for here its called a miracle. For this week, john donvan, abc news, washington. Now, we honor our fellow americans who serve and sacrifice. This week, the pentagon released the names of six Service Members killed in afghanistan. And that is all for us today. Thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news with david muir tonight and ill see you tomorrow on good morning america. In the news this sunday, negotiations are set to resume shortly at bart and its unions try to avoid a strike. Hours away from a midnight deadline. We will have a live report. And a car crash into an east bay home. Why Police Arrested the driver. Good morning. From our camera, partly cloudy skies, 51 degrees downtown san francisco. There is some fog south of the city, but not for long. We will talk about our warmup next on the

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