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An Artist Community where people were living cluttered with old wood. And the slew of complaints this morning. Debris, garbage and trash. Those violations were accurate. Could this all have been prevented . Were the warning signs missed . Complete coverage of this deadly fire starts right now. Good sunday morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. And this is a solemn morning, a morning where were still trying to understand the scope of the loss from this fire at a concert in oakland, california. Inside, a dilapidated warehouse, which was known to hold parties. Firefighters working through the night picking through debris from the burned out structure. A collapsed roof making the Recovery Efforts slow and potentially dangerous. Overnight, there was a memorial for the victims, people leaving flowers in memory of those who died, as many questions are swirling right now over how this fire start. Heres what we know so far. At least nine people killed. There are possibly dozens missing. This venue, a spot known as the oakland ghost ship. Yes. Its a tangle of makeshift spaces filled with clutter. Some of the survivors telling us they lived there. Officials say the building appeared to have no sprinklers. There were stacks of wooden pallets serving as kindling for this fire, but were going to begin with the latest on this recovery effort. Abcs Neal Karlinsky is in oakland to start off our team coverage. Good morning, neal. Reporter paula and dan good morning. Such a tragedy. It is still a very active scene out here right now, but with one major problem. Its still too dangerous for fire officials to get in and look around because they fear the entire building might come down on them. It was 11 32 p. M. Friday night when the calls came in. A party at this oakland warehouse and artist collective was erupting into an inferno flames ripping through windows. Panic, man. Panic. Total panic. Reporter firefighters could be seen breaking in with pickaxes, desperate to reach people trapped inside. Bob mule was on the first floor and saw flames spread so fast, he barely made it out. I had some pretty gnarly burns on my arm, my hand, my shoulder. Reporter by daybreak it was clear the fire was far worse than anyone imagined. Its very heartbreaking, and this is just an extreme version of the loss. Reporter dozens were reported missing. People began flooding facebook desperate to find lost loved ones. Everybody on facebook is like theyre going on her page and posting about her, and how she related to their lives. I just want to know something. Reporter this man looking for his brother. I hate to say it, and i dont want to sound selfish, but im only thinking about my own and i have love for everybody. I dont want anybody to be hurt. But i mean, thats my little brother. What am i supposed to do . Reporter body bags marking some of the dead. Officials say nearly all of them appear to have been trapped on the second floor. There for a Party Featuring electronic music by an act called golden donna. Officials believe the victims trapped on that second floor had little chance to escape. The only exit, a makeshift stairwell constructed with wooden pallets. Quickly overtaken by flames leaving no way out. Eventually, the entire roof collapsed from the heat. Crashing down on the second floor. That upstairs soon burned through as well partially falling and burning to the ground. This is going to be a slow process for us. We are anticipating being out here for a minimum of the next 48 hours, so we will be at this scene. The scene will remain active until its entirely searched and gone through. Reporter the warehouse known as the oakland ghost ship was well known as an eclectic gathering of artists. Some even living inside. The official death toll stands at nine, with some two dozen people still unaccounted for. There is no official causes yet to the fire, but arson is not suspected right now. That number is expected to go up. Dan and paula. Neal, thank you. We want to speak to some of the survivors of this terrible fire beginning with bob mule. Bob, youre a photographer and an artist. You live in the building, and we want to ask you. How were you able to get out of the building in time . Well, i was like one of the first people to see the fire. I yelled and notified everyone as best of my abilities and was trying to find a fire extinguisher. I wasnt able to get it to work and i ran back to get my camera and thats when i ran into my roommate. He, who is a larger gentleman, coming down from the loft inside of his space, he broke his ankle, and needed me to pull him out, and the fire was just getting too hot, and i was, like, felt my skin melting, and i couldnt breathe, and it was getting too hot, and i had to leave him behind, and i know he didnt make it. I just i yelled, and i just i ran out after that just screaming his name. Just in complete disbelief through all of this. Bob, that just sounds absolutely horrible, and we here in new york are sending you our condolences. Do you have a sense of what may have started the fire . Im not really sure. I mean, i just kind of seen it through a wall, and, like, i dont know what could have caused it. I mean, maybe it could have been anything, electrical, could have been i dont know. Were hearing from some other survivors that in order to get up to the loft, it was basically a makeshift staircase. Is that where you were when the fire broke out and when your friend asked you for help . I was just getting ready to paint, and all of a sudden, another member of the collective smelled smoke and called me and said investigate, and thats when, like, you know, we saw some smoke, and the power went out shortly after we saw that, and we saw the fire, and thats when we notified everyone. It was just a mad scramble and everything just kind of went really quick after that. Bob, how many people were living in the building, and were there any fire safety precautions taken . There was anywhere from, like, i dont know. 15 to 20 of us that are in and out of there. You know, we have like went out of our way to put fire extinguishers all around the house, all around everywhere and, of course, just, like, in that moment, youre, like, where are they . You know, you dont have enough to, like, think about where they are, even if you had, like, seen where they are every day, and, like, it just happened all so quick. So, you said there were fire extinguishers, but there were no fire alarms present at the building . Correct. Thats correct. And how quickly did it go up in flames . We are hearing reports that it was basically a tinderbox. I dont know if a tinderbox but, you know, definitely, like, within, like, minutes, you know, like, it happened so quick. I was just about to start painting that night, and everything was, like, pretty mellow, and, you know, after i started running through the halls, screaming fire, another housemate, you know, he ran upstairs to try and get everyone, like, to let them know what was going on. And it was all just very frantic. You know, like once it kind of came out and people started smelling smoke and the power went out, you know, so it was like it was dark. Bob mule who has been really living through a nightmare. We really appreciate you coming to talk to us this morning. Were very glad that youre okay and were very sorry for the loss of your friend. Again, thank you very much for your time this morning. Thank you for being this is, of course, an agonizing time for friends and families of the missing. So desperate showing up at the scene of the fire also using social media, all in hopes of finding their loved ones, and diane and covering that part of the story for us. Good morning, diane. Reporter dan and paula, good morning. These people are desperate for answers right now. Both trying to confirm whether their loved ones were definitely at that party, and then of course, whether they made it out alive. For many of them those questions are still unanswered this morning. Pete, if you are out there, i hope you are safe. Reporter this morning, friends and family are crying out for their loved ones facing the horror of not knowing. I pray that you made it out of the fire. Reporter this woman is overcome with emotion as the silence sets in with no word from her daughter or her friends. Shes not answering her phone. Hes not answering his phone, and no one can get in contact with them. And i tried calling, and its not like her to not respond to a text. Reporter some in this Oakland Community are starting to lose hope. I have four friends who i believe probably perished tonight in the fire. Their bodies are probably right there now. Were missing some people, and we have been here, and thats all we have so far. Reporter even witnesses are having a hard time dealing with what they saw. They were in the party. They ran down the stairs, because of the smoke and they stood there crying because their friends didnt come with them. I didnt see very many people come out at all. That was what really, really bothered me. Just not seeing anybody come out. Reporter anna mendola is now desperate to hear her taughttaugh daughters voice again. Please, just call us. Were all looking for you. Your mom, your dad, everybody. Your husband, please. Can you just call any of us if youre around, something happened, we dont care, we just want to know if youre alive or not. Reporter and we have seen the number of people unaccounted for fluctuate. While some are losing hope, the the bottom line is we really dont know. But for some of these families, thats the hardest part. Dan and paula. Certainly is, diane. Thank you. So heartbreaking. While officials are focusing on recovering victims there are new details emerging about the warehouse and whether or not it was safe before the fire even broke out. This is such an important question, and abcs lauren lyster, who is also in oakland this morning, is covering that angle. Lauren, good morning to you. Reporter good morning, dan and paula. You know, Officials Say that building was under investigation for safety violations, and a null of people in this Community Say they have feared the conditions might lead to Something Like this. This morning, an inside look at the oakland ghost ship. The warehouse and Popular Party space that burned through so quickly early saturday morning. It looked pretty junky. The whole place was. Reporter now questions over what role the condition of the artists studio, crash pad and improvised concert venue may have played in turning the fire into a terrible tragedy. Its a little scary, the steps, the lighting, the steps getting up to the second floor. Reporter in fact, records show a slew of past complaints about the buildings safety and appearance. The most recent three weeks ago, citing junk piling up outside. Debris, garbage and trash. We were able to confirm that those violations were accurate. Reporter these pictures showing furniture, sculptures and piles of other items stacked near the entrance. There is a lot of debris and a lot of just the stuff coming from inside onto the streets. Reporter inside the walls, floors and ceilings covered in old carpets, tattered sofas, broken chairs, a seemingly infinite collection of flammable material. Seen here in photos from the artists collectives Facebook Page. It wasnt just the collections. Authorities say an unknown number of people were illegally living inside, and the buildings owners have received warnings about illegal construction as far back as 2005. We had received recent complaints about light and unpermitted construction at the property. Reporter in those photos, you can see the only staircase leading to the exits, makeshift steps made up of wooden pallets. On friday night, ghost ships fans gathered for a party like this one, earlier this year at that venue, deejays, dancers and other revelers packed in. Officials believe its the ragtag layout and apparent lack of sprinklers that may have played the biggest roles in the number of deaths. At this rhode island nightclub back in 2003, similar safety violations contributing to a massive death toll after a fire broke out at a concert due to pyrotechnics. And according to the l. A. Times, family members of the owner of that warehouse say no one lived there, but clearly were hearing from some people who called that building home. Dan and paula. All right, lauren, thank you. And joining us now are abc news contributors former new York City Police commissioner ray kelly in studio and former fbi special agent brad garrett. Gentlemen, lets talk first and foremost about those 48 complaints against the building and an Ongoing Investigation into possible illegal construction. So, ray, lets start with you. Was there plenty of warning to prevent this tragedy . Sure. Hindsight is 20 20, but 48 violations is an awful lot. That will be part of the investigation. Usually, if criminal charges come forward, its because of gross negligence, sort of a depraved difference in view of the situation, so i think thats certainly a possibility down the road. And, brad, you think this place should have been shut down . Theres no question about it, paula. I mean, you think about whats going on here. This was zoned or had a permit as a warehouse. You werent supposed to live there. There wasnt supposed to be anything inside that other than perhaps storage. But, you know, as the reporters have mentioned, i mean, this place was just full of stuff that would once it caught on fire, youre not going to be able to control it. Do you think, brad, that theres a potential for criminal charges . Well, i think commissioner kelly has got a point here. I mean, not probably that it was arson. Nothing is indicating that, but they dont really know yet, dan. That its somebody who is basically saying, this is just a warehouse, and you can just see visually, dan, from the pictures. It was a multitude of things, including apparently, rvs parked on the first floor. Oh, wow. Although, chief, you said you were surprised that they seem to be ruling out arson so early. Yeah. I wouldnt rule anything out at this juncture. The people were saying the flames spread very quickly. That sometimes is an indication of an intentionally set fire. We dont know that yet, but i certainly, you know, wouldnt say thats not a possibility. We know that the integrity of the structure has been damaged significantly making the recovery effort really difficult so how difficult is the recovery effort going to be considering that the roof collapsed and firefighters arent really able to go in right now . Very difficult. I think the goal today is make certain that nobody else gets hurt. Theyre going to be using heavy equipment, and they have to use it with Great Respect for the bodies that are there, so its going to take time. No question about it, and its going to take time before i think the investigators can get in there, and start a fullfledged investigation. Chief, very quickly, how exactly do investigators figure out what caused this fire . What is that process . Well, its usually a process of elimination. Theyre going to go in there. Theyre going to recreate the scene before the fire, as much as possible. Theyre going to go in and look at the electrical system, and look at any accelerants or fuels. The fact that this place was sort of unwieldy is going to make the investigation more difficult, but its going to take time. A lot of questions, and it may take a while before we get answers. Ray kelly, thank you very much. Brad garrett, thank you, as well to you. We want to switch gears now and check the forecast, and for that we kick it over to rob marciano. Hey, rob, good morning. Hi, dan. Good morning to you. Breaking overnight actually some flash flooding across Southeast Texas and southwest louisiana. I want to show you pictures out of texas city in and around galveston county, their wettest december day on record. In some spots, over 7 inches, and some spots over 9 inches, and lake charles, louisiana, also getting half of a foot of snow in a short period of time. And theres ryan street there flooding out quite a bit. Familiar with that for sure. Flash flood watches out not just through today but tomorrow as well. We have nover batch of rain that will come through and this will get up in the northeast where theres cold air, chicago, detroit, milwaukee, snowy day today and some gets into upstate new york as well tomorrow. But tonight and tomorrow, this low will spin its wheels and create another round of strong storms, which will probably have Severe Weather as well and more good sunday morning, a few high clouds and sunrise like that will help to get you going as it is another chilly start, partly cloudy and cool today, dry and cold through wednesday but well look for the wet weather to return thursday and into friday. High tmgts today, still on the mild side, low 60s coast and mid 60s in the south bay. The accuweather 7day forecast, chilly and there will be a few nfl games today that will be in the snow, fun to watch. Talk about that and the approaching snow for the northeast in the next half hour. Winter is coming. Its here actually. It is here, although we havent seen any snow. I think were all okay with that. At least here. Sounds like he may have bad news for us. Uhoh. So far. Ron, great to see you. Lets check in and see what youre covering. Some significant news out of cuba this morning. Thats right, were going to begin in cuba where tens of thousands of people gathered for one final public memorial to their former leader, the dictator, fidel castro. Castros ashes arriving in santiago on saturday. Cubans gathering in the plaza de la revolucion, the revolution square, to pay their respects, ending a nineday period of mourning for cuba. Castros ashes will be buried in a private ceremony. Back here in the u. S. , a massive tenalarm fire tore through eight buildings in cambridge, massachusetts. 60 people have been displaced and relocated to shelters. Two Police Officers and a firefighter suffering minor injuries, fighting that, a thick smoke from the fire spreading all over the boston area. No word yet on what caused that blaze. And a wild scene in philadelphia where an entire city block got covered in foam. You see it there. The foam gushing out of a local Power Company substation, in some places reaching up to six feet high. It looks like snow, doesnt it, rob . Uhhuh. Crews pushing the foam down sewage drains and washing it away. Its believed that a power outage triggered a fire alarm which then released the foam. A clean mess. A clean mess. And Army Sergeant bowe bergdahl, who is facing a courtmartial trial for desertion in afghanistan is now asking president obama to pardon him before the president leaves office in january. Bergdahl, of course, walked away from his post and was captured by the taliban and held for five years. He was released in a 2014 prisoner exchange. President elect donald trump has been very critical of that exchange. He called bergdahl a, quote, no good traitor who should have been executed. 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You can see the blue tents back there. They are still deep in the process of looking to recover more victims. Even at this hour, they still dont know exactly how many people they are dealing with. This old warehouse was a converted artist colony, unofficially, but nonetheless. People were gathered here for a Party Friday Night when the fire broke out. Officials believe most of the victims were on the second floor and critically, they think they were trapped up there with only one way out. A makeshift stairwell, described to ugh us as just wooden pallets, that were stacked up. That was quickly blocked, engulfed with flames trapping people tragically on that second floor. The fire burning so intense eventually the roof actually came down on them. Right now at this hour the official death toll is nine, but some two dozen more still reported missing, dan and paula. Describing such a harrowing scene with that roof collapsing. How long before investigators are actually going to be able to go back into this structure . Reporter its really a challenge for them out here, and we see them with their heavy equipment and machinery coming back and forth. They are worried about the building coming down on them. Its just so unstable. Fire officials have told us that there are more bodies that they have seen, but that they are not able to reach safely right now. They have actually had drones up in the air trying to look down in and get a sense of the structure, so theyre moving slowly and methodically. Neal, thank you. We want to turn now to another person who was at the party on friday night. His name is michael rosen. It was his first time at the warehouse. Michael, you described the place as a tinderbox. Can you tell us more about what you saw inside . So, when you walk in, there was a ton of kind of wooden elements to the space. Theres literal rooms that were kind of constructed out of antique wood. It was just very clear that the space was very much constructed of wood, very much kind of, you know, primed for something if something were if a tragedy were to happen, the elements were kind of in place for it to happen. Yeah. Now, michael, you and your friends stepped outside for a little bit of time when the fire actually erupted, but you were on the second floor in the loft where so many of the victims were found. The roof had collapsed. How tough was it to get up that staircase to the second floor . Yeah, i mean, it wasnt, you know, like, climb a mountain or something, but it was a very unstable experience. Its a very steep incline, and there wasnt much to kind of latch your feet on to. Gives you a sense of how difficult it may have been for people up on the second floor to get down and out in time. As paula mentioned, you and some friends had left to go to the store nearby, and when you came back, you saw the place up in flames. How bad was it when you returned . When we returned, you could kind of see a plume of smoke, and it was billowing. It honestly didnt look that bad when we got there. I think it maybe just had started. The ambulances, the fire trucks werent even there yet when we showed back up. But we stayed for a little bit and it got progressively worse as we were there. Knowing what you saw and basically the tinderbox conditions, how surprising is it that it did go up so quickly . I dont know. Its hard to say. Im no fire expert or anything, but i think in the morning after putting the pieces together, it was yeah. I could kind of see how that might have been the case. Well, michael, were really glad that you are okay and that your friends are okay. We really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you so much. Appreciate it. We do want to turn to some other news this morning. Family and friends are gathered to remember joe mcknight, the former nfl player who was killed in what police are calling a road rage incident. Abcs eva pilgrim is in new orleans with the tributes pouring in right now, plus more about what the witnesses saw when that driver opened fire. Eva, good morning to you. Reporter good morning. We have spoken with several businesses here in this area that say authorities have taken their security video as they try to piece together exactly what happened in this intersection. [ chanting justice ] reporter growing outrage about what authorities are calling a road rage shooting taking the life of former nfl running back, joe mcknight. If he was man enough to pull the trigger, he should be man enough to take his lick and still be in jail. Reporter police say this man, ronald gasser, seen on the ground in cuffs admitted shooting the football star in the hand, shoulder and chest. Those nearby, staring in shock. I just stood there with my hand on my face, like, oh, my god. He really just shot this man. Reporter Authorities Say it all started just after 3 00 on thursday on the Crescent City connection when one of the drivers cut the other off. The cars drove almost six miles stopping when the two pulled up to this stoplight. Witnesses say they heard the two men arguing. The sheriff telling abc news, mcknight was out of his car, not armed when gasser fired his gun. Witnesses say after the shooting, gasser got out. He walked around to the front part of the car, but he kept his arm locked. Reporter and pointing . Pointed at the front of the car. Reporter mcknights family and supporters in the community incensed his killer is not in custody, not charged in connection with mcknights death. We got a serious problem on our hands. We need to deal with it. Reporter fellow usc running back, reggie bush, planning to honor his friend tweeting out his cleats for todays game featuring a picture of mcknight in his college uniform with the dates of his birth and death. The jets will take a moment of silence for their former teammate monday night when they take on the colts. And mcknights family telling me that they now want an independent autopsy done, dan and paula. Eva pilgrim on the scene there. Thank you. Lets check the forecast and get it back to rob. Hey, man. Hi, dan, hi, paula. I want to show you a picture of light and hope that the Holiday Season brings. A lot of towns lighting up their christmas decorations, breckenridge one of them. No new snow to report there. But theres snow now falling in minneapolis, and dubuque, iowa. Over two inches, chicago, green bay, two Football Games happening there if you like to watch football in the snow, be aware and tune in and also some of the snow will get into upstate new york outside of new york city and the ground still kind of warm, so itll have a hard time really accumulating. Not going to be warm for long. Bigtime cold coming in all through next week. Windchills are going to be below zero in many spots, all the way down into the deep south. Thats a quick check on the good sunday morning, a beautiful picture here. High clouds throughout the afternoon. Tmperatures will climb too the 0s by noontime, this oontime, this Weather Report is brought to you by petco. Take care of your pets this week as it gets cold. Bring them inside. Bring them inside. But lets go back outside for football. Speaking of, coming up, you guys ready . Ready. Im ready. 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And joining us to talk about it is espn sportscenter anchor and host of college gameday, rece davis. A big day. Thanks for joining us. 14 weeks to get here so excited to see what the Committee Comes up with. Thats right. So its all about the four teams, though, that will be playing for the national championship. Basically, alabama and three other teams. But its not going to be such an easy selection for the Selection Committee, is it . I dont think so. I do think there are three spots pretty solid for the Selection Committee being ohio state at number two, albeit that one a bit controversial in some eyes and clemson will be one of the top four, as well, what order clemson and ohio state are in remains to be seen. The real question, i think, comes at number four because you have Washington Team, which won the pac12, but has a horrific nonconference strength of schedule. Penn state won the big ten last night by beating wisconsin, and then theres michigan sitting on the outside. Michigans primary argument is that they drilled penn state by 39 points when they played in the regular season. Yeah, and michigans two losses also came on final plays of the game. Got to ask you, which team and or teams in your mind and estimation are really going to have a legitimate beef for being left out . Michigan may be one of the best four teams but michigan won one game all season outside the state of michigan and only two road games against rutgers which was dreadful this year, and against michigan state. Had michigan won either of the iowa game which it should have won, or the ohio state, which it could have won, then the wolverines would be sitting pretty. Penn state with two losses will have a difficult time arguing it should be ahead of the Washington Team at one and if washington is even left out, then their nonconference strength of schedule would be to blame. Its second worst in the country. Real quick. Rob and ron want to weigh in with you, rece. I think its a strong argument michigan did a better team than washington but washington had the one loss and michigan had the two so rece, do they take into account how strong a team is late in the season . You can say penn state certainly is a better team now than when they lost to michigan. I think they do account for improvement during the subjective part of the evaluation, and certainly, that will be taken into consideration, but one phrase you will hear often on our show today, when we talk to coby, hell say, total body of work. They want every game in the regular season to count as much as possible so while i think there is some credit given to improvement during the latter part of the season, they really try to put some emphasis on what happens in the early part of the season as well. Rece davis, thanks, ron and rob, thank you for weighing in, as well. Youre welcome. Reminder, you can catch the College Football selection show starting at noon on espn. 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And china. China said they have already complained. We want to get the trump response to that as well. So a lot to talk about with the Vice President elect including that carrier deal and all the fallout from the carrier deal this week. President elect trump on a tweet storm this morning also saying that any more companies that move their jobs overseas will face that 35 tariff, so well talk about that with the Vice President elect as well. So youre going to be on the show this morning, and you will also be interviewing the retired general David Petraeus. Hes reportedly in the running for secretary of state. As many people may remember, he had to step down several years ago, when it came out that he gave classified information to a reporter who was also his mistre mistress. After this Long Campaign after trump railed vehemently against Hillary Clinton for endangering americas secrets with her private email server, is it going to be difficult for him to explain to the American People why he would pick petraeus if he does so . Well, thats going to be one of the key questions, one of the questions ill put it to Vice President elect pence and also to general petraeus this morning. This was somewhat of an unusual occurrence this morning. Politico reporting that the trump transition is going to be watching general petraeus this morning to see how he does now that hes one of the finalists for secretary of state. Of course, he met with the president elect this week, president elect trump said he had a good impression of general petraeus. We want to talk with general petraeus about that as well, but several republican senators have said they have a high level of angst over this, so well see if general petraeus can answer those questions, reassure those senators. 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Right now we know there are ten confirmed deaths. But crews have been able to clear out a lot of debris in the warehouse an they say they saw more bodies inside the building. Friends and family are anxiously waiting for any news on those who are still unaccounted for. We know that some of them may be showing up again this morning. Katie is live outside the alameda sub station where families have been told to go to seek more information. Good morning, katie. Reporter good morning, reggie and carolyn. These doors are open to family members and only in the last few minutes have we seen family members start to arrive. The looks on their spaces truly speak to their heartbreak, complete devastation. They asked us not to film them out of respect. Weve also seen in the last few hours, counselors begin to show up. A woman with Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services told me they will have four to six counselors here all day to help people deal with their grief. Last night there were at many as 50 family members here waiting for answer as and many had to go home without answers. The Sheriffs Office can make notifications to family members last night. Something we learned last night, the 14 people who were actually living in the warehouse were able to get out of the fire and were taken to the hospital to be treated. But other than that, it has mostly been very painful pleas and stories from family members begging their loved ones to call and check in. To that end the Alameda County Sheriffs Office did tweet this morning anyone who has made contact with someone who was previously missing, to please contact the Coroners Office and let them know that so they can keep their records up to date. Live in oakland, abc 7 news. Thank you so much, katie. As we go through the News Conference, hopefully well get more confirmed numbers as far as how many people are actually missing. We knowvanessas Facebook Page says she started at berkeley in august. Her cousin posted on twitter, shes been missing since the fire broke out and this man, Jason Mccarty has not been heard from. His picture was posted on twitter saying he went to the party with two colleagues. Its three from u. C. Berkeley still unaccounted for. The missing are not just from here in the bay area but all over state, even outside the country. Many families are fearing the worst. We spoke to a man whose niece was still missing. She was center of attention, loveable kid, everybody loved her and her personality, even when we talked about pop out of nowhere, hello, guys, what are you worried about . Lets go home. His niece is ara jo, 20 years old and painter and lives in oakland. Her uncle said it is not like her to not keep in contact with her family. Again, we are waiting on authorities in oakland to step to the mics last we heard is at 6 00 last night this News Conference is expected to start at any moment. It is at 31st and international boulevard in oakland right outside the scene of that warehouse fire. Sky 7 got a revealing shot from above showing the patch work of what enframing and debris rescuers are forced to work through. This is a slow process. A closer shot shows some firefighters inside that framing. A lot of that debris inside has melted and firefighters said they would actually have to cut bodies from the wreckage before those people can even be identified. We spoke to a woman inside who says what the ghost ship actually looked like before the fire broke out. So here is what she saw. It looked pretty junkie and lots of boxy like weird boxes with curtains and people lived