And as it turned out well had too much support to be dumped so but it is the discretion of the president who makes a recommendation to the national convention then you go from there is that answer the question. Yeah plenty of them are illegal as. Well let me explain to you that a vice president is chosen by the president of the United States and it is constitutional in the sense that. Political conventions are not mention of the Constitution they are the 1st convention was an 832 the Democrats held a convention but it is the convention which nominates a vice president let me give you one other example to great point you remember one George McGovern was nominated in 72 and his running mate was Tom Eagleton senator from Missouri and they found out the evil twin had a mental had a shock treatment by the way he was completely normal wonderful man I interviewed him many times on my program but Eagleton left how do you replace the nominee Well the National Committee the Democratic National Committee met in the summer of 72 and they nominated the choice that George McGovern had and that was Sargent Shriver who I would remind you was the last pro-life Democrat to be nominated and put on a national Democratic ticket anyway hope I've answered all your historical questions always happy to can't wait for the conventions when you imagine what fun we're going to have there 415-808-0810 I am John Rotman will take this to the top of the hour and then we're going to talk about Rudy Giuliani right here on k g. 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I agree with you on Trump's situation I think the more information that gets the more clear that can make a decision. And a question though. Then pieces for Trump and made to find that Pence is implicated would that be a separate process or does it is it just one process all grouped together no it would have to be separate impeachment is directed against an individual am the if in fact Mike Pence were removed from office it's a very interesting question Spiro Agnew asked the House to impeach him the house declined because the Department of Justice already had a criminal indictment in the works so but each case is considered individually so. There would be a trump impeachment and then the question of the vice president would have to be dealt with separately Ok so 2 separate trials then of one person absolutely and the other question nope that's good I'm glad I was able to answer. I'm waiting to see the evidence come out some of mine and we'll talk about it right here on this program I promise you probably didn't come out sooner thanks for your cow Mark commercials it makes me want to drive to someplace go to get my groceries but believe me I couldn't ask for a better place to shop and tell them John Rothmann sent you I thank you very much for 15 effect for I get more people who stop me about the Cal Mart commercials Ok We're going to move on but before we do Lynn handed me something I want to share this with you just a moment in history on this state October 25th 1991 Bill Graham the great rock impresario died in a helicopter crash. His helicopter was flying in inclement weather he collided with a high power line on his way back to San Francisco from Lewis and the news concert in Concord California. I knew Bill I knew his nephew. Who died of cancer who was a very dear friend of mine. We want to Washington high school together and Bill was a remarkable man so Lim thank you for reminding me what happened by the way I saw Bill a night before he died and. He was a good man Ok When we come back we're going to talk about. Another question. Giuliani the president's lawyer. Every day. It looks tougher and tougher now the president defended Rudy Giuliani. Said he was a great guy wonderful guy. And we're going to talk about because Rudy Giuliani may be. May be the straw that breaks the camel's back. 415-808-0810 I am John Rosemond and you are listening to. This is. Now an Amazon. Inquiry validated Amazon snubbed member of a coup sac a federal judge ruled that House Democrats are legally engaged in an impeachment inquiry the decision undercuts president Trump's argument that the investigation is a sham the ruling came in an order that directed the Justice Department to hand over redacted evidence in the report to impeachment investigators snubbing Amazon correspondent Jeff McKay reports that Pentagon awarded a multibillion dollar cloud computing contract to Microsoft instead Jeff Bezos owns Amazon He also owns the Washington Post a newspaper the president is often criticized as promoting fake news the deal is a major win for Microsoft's cloud business and Amazon released a statement saying they were surprised about the government's decision but in the end it was Microsoft the winner of a cloud computing contract expected to be worth $10000000000.00 over 10 years states of emergency declared in California as wildfires are raging the Kincaid fire in Northern California is Sonoma County near Geyserville the tick fire burning in Southern California about 30 miles north of Los Angeles and the miller fire near San Diego in them dozens of homes and other structures damaged. 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Jon Ronson with you right here on stage of time remember just chatting and you know we were talking about Rudy Giuliani and how the president would never turn his back on his personal attorney. Ever wait a minute wait a minute where is Michael Cohen today. Why am I laughing it's not that I want to laugh I do want you to understand that the president of the United States has relied on her Giuliani and evidently deputized him to go out into the world and represent him really in foreign policy matters but if you notice this week that you Leon he was not at the White House earlier this week when his fellow Trump lawyers met with the president for a review of the impeachment strategy. And by the way I would suggest that because people are heeding concerns long vocalized by many of the president's aides and outside allies that is that Giuliani's media interviews were hurting the president you know I make people laugh and I'm not giving speeches and I say Would you hire Rudy Giuliani as your lawyer but did you notice this week the Mr Giuliani made no primetime televised network appearances and by the way I checked this he hasn't for the last 2 weeks and Giuliani's only public comment in recent days was a cryptic evening tweet on Wednesday 48 hours ago in which he said let me let me read it to you. With all the fake news let me make it clear that everything I did was to discover evidence to defend my client against false charges Dems would be horrified by the tax on me if my client was a terrorist but I don't believe Great Donald Trump has rights justice will prevail I had to stop and I did a double check on this. The president claims Giuliani is his personal lawyer but you know he's never paid Giuliani and if you heard the really funny thing today Giuliani must have sat down on his cell phone and he was caught I don't know how this all was revealed but I listened to a little bit on t.v. Earlier. Trying to raise money that he needed money so I am telling you that Giuliani may hold the key because you could invoke theoretically. Client lawyer privilege but remember the Giuliani has argued that his role on the Trump legal team. Is very important and should not be disrupted why because resisting a Democratic a penal subpoena for documents and this what you Leon he wrote you can't get a lawyer replaced by sending them a questionable request not for testimony but documents some or all of which are clearly covered by attorney client privilege but wait a minute the president has never paid Giuliani so is Giuliani really his lawyer and what happens when you have the Department of Justice declining comment and this has been for weeks about any specific investigation of the president's lawyer. And I want to remind you that at one point during the Reagan administration Giuliani served 1st as the nation's number one or number of 3 rather law enforcement official and then as u.s. Attorney for the Southern District of New York but this is a very tough business now Jay Sekulow the longest serving member of the president's legal team rejected the idea of the Chilian he was in any kind of legal jeopardy He also dismissed questions about Giuliani. And he put to rest the president's outside lawyers have any kind of a bind. We have no concerns about any of that he's a member in good standing of the president's legal team so let's let's establish something the president says he's part of the legal team Jay Sekulow says he's part of a legal team and now the question becomes what happens if Giuliani is subpoenaed can the president invoke executive privilege Giuliani has already said go ahead and subpoena me I'm not going to testify and there is also a question about a $500000.00 payment that Rudy Giuliani has publicly acknowledged receiving for work he did on behalf of a company owned by his 2 business men associates who are now facing federal campaign finance charges you've heard the story of left and Igor Freeman who orchestrated an alleged scheme to buy political influence on behalf of a Ukrainian government official and a Russian businessman and both men of pleaded not guilty when they were arraigned Wednesday in New York but it's a serious question because that means that inevitably Giuliani is going to be involved now Mr Giuliani has traveled extensively in the u.s. And abroad with both of these people and well now we're going to see what happens but will the president will the president keep Giuliani close and what happens if Giuliani doesn't stay close to the apartment of Justice has grown more interested in Giuliani over the past year and 2 people again unconfirmed sources familiar with the investigation say it now includes additional attention to what he's been doing in Washington and outside of Washington. Initially federal prosecutors. And the f.b.i. Were examining him and now they are proceeding without examination 415-808-0818 senior Justice Department official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Has indicated there is something going on now and the d.o.j. Is criminal division gave a public statement last Sunday. Which indicates that they might be looking at Giuliani and his connection in all of this 415-808-0810 do you think the president's lawyer is safe and would the president turn his back on Giuliani as the president turned his back on Michael Cohen now you know Karen and I were joking with each other about it but it doesn't really work it seems to me to be the president's personal lawyer and confidant and if Giuliani really knows everything that we think he knows what happens if he turns against the president or under oath tells the truth would the president be in trouble 415-808-0810 Let's go to han calling from San Francisco and welcome to k g o. Yeah John Cook quick question for you and I guess just business with me pretty much goes to where I was growing rhetoric that way if the just for everybody that's around them your side are just the Congress the courts and everybody said we will not deal with you on any subject for any reason period what happens there I think the president would be doomed because then the Congress would say the president is obstructing an investigation is refusing to answer questions and I think Republicans not Democrats but Republicans would have a hard time defending the president where he lived out of him diverted great I'm tell you right now. I'm a conservative myself Ok it's being discussed right now and it's far as him being convicted in the House and in the Senate that's not going to happen so that the lid that being said in the Senate or flat out you're saying in the Senate I'm sorry no no I'm in the Senate he will not become addicted in the United States people have already stopped their foot and said it will not go to me explain a few things that you know let me just explain to you something I worked with Richard Nixon for a long time I remember when there was a solid block in the Republican Party that said they would not vote to remove Nixon from office and he wasn't removed because the Republicans. Held firm until the evidence was overwhelming and then the Republican said we don't want to have it come down to a vote just go on in Florida. Now I'm talking about not to let's go to Clinton because we're talking then about 1999 and the answer is the Democrats. Came to the conclusion that they were going to stick with the president and in that case he survived so the problem will be and you've set it up beautifully I really compliment you on this you've set it up beautifully the Republicans will have the same choice the Democrats had the Republicans with Nixon said no the Democrats with Clinton said yes and the Republicans no matter what position they've carved out now it will be dependent upon what the evidence is and by the way whether the president sticks by Rudy Giuliani because if he doesn't what will Giuliani do then I turn in client privilege John taught me about it I will. Try it would apply if Rudy Giuliani were an attorney representing the president but he's not he's never been retained by the president the president has never paid him he has simply been sent out on missions I have to tell you I think what would happen is the same decision the Supreme Court made in the Nixon case if lawyer client privilege were declared the Supreme Court and went to the Supreme Court I would not be surprised if the Supreme Court said yes lawyer client privilege prevails unless there is a matter of criminality and then he would be compelled to testify and Giuliani has a lot of concerns Giuliani is not a rich man. He's paying alimony to his previous wives he has a lot of expense a high lifestyle and I don't think he can afford to to do it I wonder the president said today that Rudy Giuliani is a good man the reason care and I were chuckling is because that's the same thing he said about his previous personal lawyer who now sits in federal prison Michael Cohen. Oh I hope I've answered your questions I understand you one last one last one last one last one last and I just you know basically I want to know is straight up I mean I think you may have answered it before and I forgot there's a question I was just going to ask but nevertheless the vice presidency Mr Mr Mr pants and not to you you think he'll have issues there have they really started talking about him and they're going to they're going to go after him also Ok I've had only a hunger for the president right I only read the speculation. But the question becomes was Mike Pence privy to the conversation of the president had with President Selenski Now we know that Mike Pence was not present but a member of his staff did participate in that call was the vice president fully briefed I don't I have to tell you my own preference here to Hon I'm more concerned about the president we have to have a president who is clean as a hound's tooth. Possible. Possible it is possible if as the president says there is nothing incriminating nothing that he's done wrong and that's why this court ruling which we talked about in the last hour was so critical if I were the president Merican people there and their rights and they would be in there right when it comes to putting a president up and let's face it John we've got to say some hard to some hard facts here we've got a bit of a caste system that's forming in this country Ok Because the fact the matter is we've got a. Country with a lot of folks believe if you don't have a relationship to smoke been in office before if you don't have a stack of pedigree degrees you don't win a right to run for president I would say Merican people to be American people have material as you can have all right I know what the Constitution says but in actual right to Aleck somebody to fire your bureaucracy do we have that right I'm asking you as an American I'll tell you what you have a right to whoever is president of the United States. Has a certain latitude in terms of hiring but I can tell you that you can't fire a tenured federal bureaucrat that you're not allowed to do because they're protected by their union and by federal law if you're asked. If no no no no no trump is not fired people in the federal bureaucracy what he did was to remove key policy did not understand it go ahead. Ok what I'm saying to you John bottom line is Ok. The American people you keep asking the question a lot of folks on the silky best of luck to us loyal supporters not want to abandon Donald Trump we hire him sit him there on a mission to do certain things and he should see for ma its chief among them was to find a way to and I want use every wish not ridiculously I won't go off and reuse it again but we want him to go in there and do what ever he has to to fire anybody that's been there listen if they longer than 15 years can't do it Ok what you can do a president's prerogative and this is a big challenge for a president let's assume to han tomorrow you are if you were elected president there would be several 1000 vacancies that you can fill which are political appointments a some of them require congressional confirmation others has in the case of John Bolton who was national security adviser did not require Senate confirmation so you would have a large cast of people who you could replace But here's the problem with any president in a transition how do you find all those people and that's the question the sniper shoot the call I mentioned. John Bolton you heard the news today. They're now talking to John Bolton and Bolton is not happy with the president. So one of the things you have to think about is not only Rudy Giuliani but John Bolton if John Bolton you'll pardon a very bad pun I hope if John Bolton bolts if he goes off the reservation and I'll tell you the analogy the analogy is John Dean John Dean was loyal to Richard Nixon until until he wasn't We'll continue the conversation on John Rothmann right here on John Rothmann on k g o 8 The city sponsors presenting its finest to Davy Symphony Hall with fantastic performances on the big screen and stage great American cinema like never before with the score perform live by the us of symphony on Friday November 1st cd Emmy award winning smash hit it stars a music loving boy who makes a dazzling journey to the land of the death of his great great grandfather visit Radio dot com for your chance to win a pair of tickets to the event tickets furnished by the assets into. John Rothmann here James asks me a question by e-mail John referring to a couple of callers back from presiding and is not in p. Pretty run for office in 2020 yes or 2024. The only limit on Donald Trump is that if he's elected for a 2nd term he can't run again. And that would be the only limit and by the way the exception to that just so you know it is if you see one less than half a term is completed then maximum now a president can serve as 10 years so you'd finish out the unexpired term be elected in your own right and then be elected to a 2nd term 415-808-0810. Let's let's keep going here let's go to Johnny calling from Vacaville Johnny welcome to k.g. . John can you know me I can Johnny thank you for calling go ahead yes no problem. I just have one question. What it what happens if. Let's say all this thing nothing you have. Election came in and he became he got reelected what. Well you know them going to do now oh well there's several things 1st of all Trump is reelected he will be elected to a 2nd term and I think that would really do it unless again there were a violation of law if the Republicans continue to control the Senate he's completely safe now the president argues that this whole thing is a hoax and that if there's a lot of proceed he thinks the Republicans will take control the House or whatever the case may be impeachment is not something pursued frivolously if the president were to be reelected I think he'd serve a suction term. I was feeling he will be because for the past 3 years I mean week it is these 25th Amendment question coalition and all these bombshell in fact she say I watch him on c.n.n. a Lot almost on a daily bases that Hess during the Mueller report or to Mueller investigation he has more than enough. To know what do you call it certainly. Evidence beyond circumstantial evidence. Let's be clear all Muller could do was write a report was sent up to Congress more or made no recommendations which some people thought my right and there you know what happened today proof that that Adam Schiff. That he's been talking about. I can't say I can't answer because I have not seen the redacted material now we are going to see the redacted material and what I think they're looking for is that in his report more suggested there were obstructions of justice we'll see I mean I'm not Johnny All I can do is answer. I may be wrong but they already passed me Russian meddling there knowing that you crazy things. Well let me explain again I think it's very important the Ukraine issue is the big issue have they passed the Russia thing it depends if the un redacted material turn something up you can be sure it will be included in the Articles of Impeachment my own view is and I've said this publicly they ought to stick to Ukraine if in fact the president invited the leader of a foreign country to investigate it potential opponent in a presidential election I believe that would be grounds for removal from office but it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to the American people now we will get a better idea because a key member of the president's staff Mr Morrison is going to testify next week the White House is trying to prevent him from testifying but he is going to testify and he participated in the talk was all in if he affirms what was stated by Ambassador Taylor the Republicans are have a problem because the Republicans the Republicans understand. It's funny you mention about Taylor every time they have a star witness. A whether they call Trump or never tempers like Taylor now I heard this morning he said George Soros I mean it's not correct Taylor is absolutely clean as the driven snow Bill Taylor you know he's one of the most highly respected people how they do George Saunders No no no no but you see that's part of the dissent from ation campaign that's being spread will say it's not true you can look him up and read his record he's been a professional diplomat for almost half a century he has no political involvement he was appointed by George Bush yes and who put him back in the Ukraine Mike Pompei Oh did you hear what the president said today well you know sometimes people might miss next he says sometimes people make mistakes yes especially for me that. You know your Tsars spent all kinds of money yes but at some of us but Taylor has nothing to do with George Soros and Morrison who will testify next week and I don't know what he's going to say I only have the preliminary report that he's going to confirm Taylor's things Morrison is a member of the White House staff the president is very upset that members of the White House staff are giving testimony that's why he's been invoking executive privilege but Johnny I want to make a date with you Ok because I can't answer because I haven't seen the material yet next week when he testifies when Morrison testifies will devote time to it and we'll also see whether the judge's ruling today is enforced and the material is turned over for inspection by the house so we have to wait and see but I promise you Johnny you want to I will take a look at it together All right well my only concern if I may for the last one. They need to get to the bottom of it is a.p. Is in Miller Spahr we waste a lot of taxpayer All I can said well actually I don't have time to talk about that right now it's never a waste when you find out the truth and let me assure you we have a long way to go you and I will agree we're going to find out all right I appreciate the call it is 732 I'm running a little late I apologize Here's traffic and then around the ones report right here on just Rothman on k g o. H n trafficking a look at k g o traffic some better news and Livermore down 580 as you're approaching Greenville road the c.h.p. Is polluting multiple vehicle crash from the 3 left lane so all ains have been reopened they've canceled a traffic advisory or similar for those length losers' But the delays are still stretching back to around ask a road that will take a little bit to unwind on the Bay Bridge eastbound just after you're blind a total of 2 vehicle collision that's over to the. And shoulder and then westbound as you're approaching the island another 2 vehicle crash that is currently in the right lane with traffic backing up to the toll plaza and then continue slow right up to the one of one split traffic and Ted has forgotten. No one's report on. The voice of reason for 43 years a member of the National Radio Hall of Fame Here's Ronn Owens impeachment the big word when it comes to Washington d.c. Never seen a town quite this active and that includes Watergate and the like Joining us to talk about it political analyst Gary Dietrich Gary so much to talk about let's talk about the Republicans according to the hill it appears that a lot of these g.o.p. Senators are saying in private we're losing this thing well I think that you know right now there's no question need ministrations on the defensive side of publicans in Congress have been on the defensive now we'll see where the saying goes the actual inquiries progress a potential impeachment vote is taken then of course you can chill in a pending trial in the Senate right now you got to say No question no on their heels you have Lindsey Graham the Republican from South Carolina one of Trump spigots supporters overall except for Syria and he came up with this resolution to condemn the House impeachment effort and he said the White House needs to step up its game well I think importantly the point he was trying to make Was he doesn't like the process in the house and then nature the closed door hearings and so he's trying to compare that to previous impeachment inquiry Nixon Clinton snatched his historical perspective that's why he's pushing now resolution of course the resolution not going to have any savvy and they but it is an opportunity for the Republicans to try to punch back look what's happened in the last 2 weeks. Turned around and said Well the administration was in fact holding back to defend save and then he of course he had to walk back but the bottom line is he made that statement he got that and then of course he got William Taylor the acting u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine and this guy apparently is really just a stellar guy absolutely a political and he's kind of digging a grave for Trump no question that he didn't kill or. Testimony Kay Gates' aunt has been what appears to be the most damage you know will she when it all comes out in the wash but clearly because you know father's a political nature and secondly because you know some of the things that he clearly corroborated right now I think that's why Republicans are nervous and by the way I think right now for public and senators it's simply a matter of hedging their bets they don't have enough information I don't take him out full throated either way on the president and so I think there's a lot of sense sitting going on right now it's really more information regret Riverrun but I think there were like 9 different Republican senators who didn't sign on to the Lindsey Graham Bill and I think that's why they don't want early on certain marker on the table and after Chechnia have to walk the head back remember you know we have Senate race are going on next year too and seventy's Republican senators don't want to get caught having come out and put their chips on the table too early All right let's also not forget there's a presidential election that's going to take place in November of 223 interesting people making news of one thing you've got to live with Warren and Bernie Sanders and it seems like they each trying to outdo each other as to how much they're going to spend when it comes to their proposal they just see no question that Elizabeth Warren in particular got nailed in the last debate how she's going to pay for all this and of course people been harping on Bernie for that for a long time right now there's no question that they are battling for the shame laying the liberal part of the party is it took him between about these 2 now warnings which surging in the polls as of late full of shit that holds and you know only one of these 2 eventually is going to survive this and you know I expect it down the road it's going to become a curious 3 person race and both of them are trying to get one of those slots do you see one of those slots the actually filled by Hillary Clinton this is a gift it keeps on getting for Republican any trumpet said repeatedly he would like nothing better than for Hillary to run again I think many Republicans probably feel the same way but he keeping this open it's so interesting to me that she Gwil not closest or officially or spokesperson said that again this week and you know going after Tosi Gabbert people like what is that about but the biggest challenge for Hillary is really clear on what lay. Is he going to run in I mean there's already women in the race he can't claim that can he be the moderate Well Biden's already kind of said That's my place so I guess that a question now it's elbow out in the way were she to get in the race Well my comment on her presidential ambition is easy get over it I think it is actually quite late a number of people a party that would agree with you on dairy Dietrich political analyst it's always great to have you on thank you my friend. That's the Ronn Owens report every weekday at 1130 again it's 330 and 730 on. Now more of John Rothmann. John Ruffin with you by the way I want to throw this in and then I will go to Rob in Richmond who's been waiting a long time Rob I apologize we're getting a 2nd trumpet ministration plans to end subscriptions to the Washington Post The New York Times I mentioned that. The other night. But it turns out that now has instructed all federal agencies to cancel the Washington Post of the New York Times. All right Rob Your turn welcome to k g o. John you know with Rudy I think it's more like Roger Stone if he's got some criminal liability they'll be quietly put aside and I will never feel more or less fall on his sword rather than turn like Michael Carona does I think and so he might even have some problems legally but he'll remain a friend of Thompson vice versa he's been a national hero for those of us the support I know but the National here are regardless of that but the question becomes if in fact it's a choice for Rudy of defending the president or going to jail what do you think he'd do. Well he'd find a way to minimize the job jail exposure and not but not turn on Trump too much I think but you know I have to applaud you for making somewhat of a concession to the Trump folks like on green Wheeler Tom was saying and and as a matter of fact. During the Nixon impeachment period the minority the Republicans were fighting tooth and nail to get subpoena rights and they didn't get him till the House vote which was February 6 1974 that was way long after almost a year after the famous Senate televised riveting Watergate hearings led by Sam Ervin now you remember those and remember the public was brought along and that time because of those riveting hearings it was a year before well it was about 4 months before the House because it was not an impeachment hearing but you had on the looking into Watergate writing what you had was Howard Baker the Republican as Vice Chairman Sam Ervin as the chairman a Democrat they worked together and you will recall that Republicans and Democrats could both ask questions in that public hearing it wasn't impeachment Bob Haldeman testify John Ehrlichman testified John Mitchell testified you can do more you know and feel good down the list the people who were called you know the one thing no one let's get to the impeachment question the impeachment question is once those hearings began which were separated from the urban committee then you had a whole different set of rules well now there's 2 phases to that and you're so right that a lot of this investigation can go on quietly behind doors without subpoena powers being given equally to both sides and witness calling all that but on October 30th 107310 days after the. Saturday Night Man. Secor That's the 1st time that the Judiciary Committee opened up its initial procedure to look into the inquiry just to gather information and they did and they and they deny it was Peter Rodino he denied that minority to have any subpoena rights he's the only one by himself to call the subpoenas out and so that know me just point out that it's because of the power of a chairman but let me remind you that when the impeachment process began and I was I knew people on the committee who were Republicans including Charlie salmon of New Jersey in the end they were able to counter with questions and they did and. They only saw a hole they only got full equal rights when the full h r 803 bill passed by the House February 6th 74 and then they had equal subpoena rights this is what you know and by the way people say your side is saying oh it's just you're arguing procedure because you don't have any substance I just didn't fact is a solicitor Graeme very eloquently has said and he's sticking to it that that the Senate as Don said the Senate will not convict on this list he call it well why don't we don't know that because we don't know who you don't home or you don't don't you know what Mr Morrison is going to say next week I know it's not the other way we want this to go forward I'm so glad you say you want to of course I don't want to for let's make a point you're making an adult one but you're making an adult and all the little mole hill turned into a mountain hold on you're making a judgment based on a view that you want to prevail and I've been a predictor of who's been accurate on Trump from day one of us not that brought it on that's not the point no one is a prophet everyone does allowances right about sometimes he announced in a whole lot on only. One. I can only tell you that when the information comes out if there is nothing incriminating then Donald Trump will not be impeached or removed what we have to do is get all the evidence so you agree with me that the judge's ruling today was a good thing it's a great one just like John Durham's ruling in the Justice Department going forward with a criminal investigation into how Russia day started so they're both great to see and I mean and I'm in favor of a full investigation but the issue here is not Russia Kate the issue is Donald Trump and I together and I don't need to do You can't just make a statement like that the Ukraine situation is separate and actually the reason the Ukraine thing is so complicated from one point of view. It is because the president's own statement his summary not a transcript but a summary of his conversation which led to grave concerns because it doesn't ply a quid pro quo because Ambassador Taylor affirms what he understood and now we have Morrison coming in who participated in the discussion so there and now there's another very interesting thing and that is the question of what John Bolton will say and you and I know that if both turns on the president he's got a real problem. So I'm not he want any one number if you're even though I went my way see it's not a question for me of whether he will or we won't I want the truth and I assume you do too well I do and I also know that the whistleblower statute if you read the Congressional Research Service It says that it does not include foreign policy differences policy differences at all this the final analysis on house now you know it's a foreign policy difference and that's why Senator Graham is so assured and made to . Thousands millions of Americans who support that it will amount to a molehill and unless unless evidence is submitted and verified that the president did something wrong what he did do say he did things wrong all along no I'm talking about you wondering I'm going to write to the level of Ok Ok I'm only saying to you and I know you reject it but that was the argument made in the next in case that it didn't rise a lot was the argument made in defending Bill Clinton it didn't rise to the level what got Nixon or his own words right and I will tell you where it is the greatest single mistake that Donald Trump made after the release of the. Summary of the conversation was to appear on the White House lawn and say what he said and went from the present time. Orders the bombing of the Brookings Institution on tape like like Nixon did then I'll worry not till then that wasn't what got Richard Nixon Well it was part of the no no no no no no no no no no I beg your pardon you know you are you kidding let me let me explain something to you what got Richard Nixon's is so you can look it up was the June 23rd smoking gun tape and one of the things that Donald Trump did and it was a mistake if he had good legal counsel if he were listening to his lawyers and he hadn't said what he said on the White House lawn affirming basically what the summary of the conversation was Alinsky said we wouldn't be going through this the problem is that Trump doesn't listen and and when I will see with Rudy Giuliani how much license did he give Giuliani and for that we'll just have to wait and see by the way that but dial by Giuliani mentions wrong words Rob is wrong in Turkey it's not me or any of the other fine Rob supply your soldier may I say you are the 1st thing that crossed my mind given the amount of money being talked about I was going to suggest if you could take me out for dinner Rob It's always a pleasure thank you very much thank you I 415-808-0810 you know I have people who ask you know why why do you use Rob as often as you do the interesting thing is if you look at Rob as the quintessential Trump supporter and you have the kind of code conversation I just had with Rob then you have to hope that there can still be some sense made of all of this 41580808 let's go to Danny calling from Mill Valley Danny welcome to. Yeah Hi John I am speaking of listening not sure you're listening the caller John for year all the trunks I've been telling you they don't care John ask or sign to listen to them they don't care all the legal points you made don't have this is this is a scandal proof loading block these least sometimes are more loyal than the Brownshirts word 8 Ok I'm only saying to you I never use Hitler in an analogy but I'm going to tell you this the president. And I'm telling you that's I don't really like that and I'm indicating that to you what we do know is that Donald Trump said that he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and his supporters would stick with him I have a choice on this program any I can ignore the Trump supporters or we can engage them because if push comes to shove and the evidence is overwhelming I always go back to Richard Nixon the Nixon while ists whether was my old friend chuck wagons or whether was Charlie Sandman or rather was very relevant to next only. Gave sir. They were loyal until they realized that they had been lied to and if you read Barry Goldwater's book he'll tell you he came to the conclusion that Richard Nixon was the greatest liar he ever met. The trick here for variational unity and for an eventual conclusion that resolves this is that we know that for us dead natural conclusion is John. All right this is how this is the senators won't change their vote in the Senate and tell the Trump shops to Trump and this is how the one of 2 ways is the only possible ways to let go of the transistor one which you could play it if you get the recording which happens every day of trial mocking the stupidity and gullibility of the Trump chomps if you get one of those recordings that would sway some of them to fall away or John and you use Going to me I really want to know why you and. Really I think the criminally negligent and not reporting the most egregious trumped cry against Americans that you don't reported on which is I'll explain it to you if you don't understand cause i told us before in USA Clinton used explained to me what the great crime is trumping illegally and immorally change the e.p.a. To the environmental pollution agent so he is literally he is literally poisoning the air water in Ca me I don't merit agree with you if you listen to my program I've gone after Trump on the e.p.a. Many times that is not an impeachable offense. You know and carrying it out is not just one regulation it's a fact you know if you learn that your poisoning your poisoning the health of all Americans I agree with you I agree and I that's why I've taken on a Donald Trump on environmental issues I'm human and Democrats have to emphasize on point hold on to any and listen for a minute I agree with you which is why Donald Trump needs to be defeat. At the polls but when you read the constitution on the question of impeachment it is bribery treason or high crimes and misdemeanors Now all you need all Americans is a bassinet biggest high crime there could be and I just point and I hope he's defeated at the polls for doing it but that would you not don't say that if you don't say that it's wrong to say wait for the polls you know let's wait till I hear their kills all the jury's going to search for a matter of service or 1st of all yeah waiters hello and now I'm sure it's over. You know something one delegates a way for the Don't Say wait here. You have to wait because that's the only way it works the system works and the only way that impeachment works is if you stick to the rules you can't just throw somebody out of office because you disagree with them on policy it's very important it's critical to understand that Danny you want down Trump removed and so to why there are 2 options impeachment if in fact he is guilty of bribery treason or high crimes and misdemeanors only Congress can determine that but the ultimate judge will be the American people we will go to the polls in November of 2020 and if you've listened to this program Danny you know that I've talked about his crimes against the environment repeatedly Some would say odd nauseum because you're right it is a high crime. But it's not an intense for which Donald Trump can be impeached you can't remove a president because you disagree with his policy at least that has been the traditional approach you can only remove a president if there is bribery treason or high crime and misdemeanor Now if you could prove to me that Donald Trump was accepting money from major industries that would be a high crime and bribery. Were brought up to the top of the hour take more of your calls I do want your reaction to the fact that Trump has instructed federal agencies to cancel Washington Post The New York Times subscriptions. What a petty thing to do all right when we come back more from you on the John Rothmann program right here. San Francisco always good for a chuckle has a proposed office of the emerging technology there can be no innovations unless there. That's Monday morning Armstrong get. You right here you know. I'm up against the clock Martin I'll give you about got about 30 seconds Martin but I want to hear what you have to say fire away by treason bribery high crimes and misdemeanors bribery invented a new term for bribery they call a campaign contribution you know something you're right it's also see all insurance companies you name it what do you call mess oh blood worry cannot happen without the promise of a savior you know I agree with you I agree with you 100 percent and that one of the reasons we need to reform our campaign finance laws is that reason Martin I appreciate it very much Ok I'm up against the clock let me tell you what I want to do in the next hour I want to talk about 2 things the Us deficit hit $984000000000.00 in 2019 soaring during the Trump era and turns out Turkish and Kurdish forces are clashing in Syria we'll turn to that and I'm going to few more things up my sleeve right here on the John Rothmann program or I'm wearing short sleeves but you know what I mean right here on the John Rothmann program. This is. Court action passing the torch. Speaker Nancy Pelosi applauded a federal court ruling that orders the Justice Department to hand over redacted information from the report to house impeachment investigators Pelosi called it another blow to President Trump's attempt to put himself above the law more on the court action from Correspondent Linda Kenyon in a brief order Judge Beryl Howell has given the Justice Department until October 30th to turn over the redacted information and underlying materials in July the House Judiciary Committee it sued for the release of the information as part of the ongoing House impeachment inquiry against President Trump California's governor declared a local emergency to assist in fighting destructive wildfires in the state more on that from correspondent Jim Roope Governor Gavin Newsom's declaration opens the state coffers and resources for battling the Kincaid fire in northern California at the Tuc fire in southern California along with several other fires burning destroying not just acres but homes sending tens of thousands fleeing to evacuations.