It's been fought by corporations and it's absolutely essential to return power to the people that I have been doing exactly what my parents taught me to do which is to take on the biggest problems in America directly and fight for them every single day thank you Mr Stier congressman over. I've always tried to bring people in to the solutions that we have to our common challenge me years ago making sure that we could get a small tech company off the ground in El Paso Texas did it as a member of the city council where I saw my colleagues not as Republicans or Democrats but my fellow well past ones who had a responsibility to deliver for our community as a member of Congress or member be an incentive Tonio I was visiting the v.a. Their March of 2017 found that my flight had been snowed in in Washington d.c. Happen to be in the elevator with a Republican member of Congress will heard and on a whim I said do you want to just rent a car and drive from San Antonio to Washington and he called my bluff we got in that Chevy Impala last car on the lot it was spring break drove 1600 miles across the country live streamed the conversation a Republican and a Democrat finding out what we had in common by the end of that trip not only had we formed a friendship but we had formed trust we worked with each other on each other's bills I got will to work with me on an immigration bill showing party leaders from either side that Republicans and Democrats can work together on an otherwise contentious issue and then across Texas I mentioned winning more votes you need Democrat we won independents and Republicans in record numbers as well I will bring people in and together to face the common challenges that we have and to make sure that America rises to this opportunity Senator Booker tell us about your most surprising friendship and look I have so many I don't know when can i was the mayor of a large city that with a Republican governor he and I had a former friendship even though I can write a dissertation on our disagreements when I got to the United States Senate I went there with the purpose of making friendships across the aisle I go to buy. Will study in Chairman Inhofe office he and I pass legislation together to help homeless and foster kids I went out to try to invite every one of my Republican colleagues to dinner and let me again say finding a dinner in a restaurant agree on one with Ted Cruz was a very difficult thing I'm a vegan and he's a meat eating Texan but I'll tell you this right now. This is the moment in America that this is our test the spirit of our country I believe in the values of rugged individuals and self-reliance but think about our history rugged individualism didn't get us to the moon it didn't beat the Nazis it didn't map the human genome it didn't beat Jim Crow everything we did in this country big and Vice President we have done so many big things the fact that there is an openly gay man a black woman all of us on the stage or because we in the past or all inheritors of a legacy of common struggle and common purpose this election is not a referendum on one guy in one office it's a referendum on who we are and who we must be to each other the next leader is going to have to be one amongst us Democrats that can unite us all not throw elbows and other Democrats that are unfair because the preparation is being the leader that can revive civic grace in our country teach us a more courageous empathy and remind America that patriotism is love of country and you cannot love your country unless you love your fellow country men and women and love is not sentimentality it's not a need make love a struggle love is sacrifice love is the words of our founders who said the end of the Declaration of Independence that if we're ever going to make it as a nation we must mutually pledge to each other our lives our fortunes and our sacred honor I am running for president to restore that sacred honor and if you believe in not like I do please join me by going to Cory Booker dot com Thank you thank you Senator Mr Yang. First I want to thank all of voters tune in at home if you don't feel like you answered your question you got your question answered tonight it's understandable there are 12 of us I'm going to be answering voter questions for 10 straight hours this Friday my web site Yang 2020 dot com And if you ask your question tonight is a better chance I'll get to it my surprising friendship it's been so much fun running for president as I got to meet so many Americans I never would have gotten to meet otherwise. Other friendship that sticks out for me is a guy named Fred who's an avid Trump supporter a trucker he let me ride in his truck for hours you spend some time in jail I heard about his experiences trying to get other people off of drugs and I'm happy to say that after our ride together she actually said that he would move from Donald Trump to my campaign which was a thrill for me and we remained in touch ever since the truth is that what happened to the 4000000 manufacturing workers here in Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Iowa did not care about our political party the 4th industrial revolution is now migrating from manufacturing workers to retail call centers transportation as well as to white collar workers like attorneys pharmacists and radiologists it does not care about our party Donald Trump had a set of solutions and 2016 What did he say he said we're going to build a wall we're going to turn the clock back we're going to bring the old jobs back America we have to do the opposite of all these things we did turn the clock forward we have to accelerate our economy and society as quickly as possible we have to evolve in the way we think about ourselves and our work and our values it is not left it is not right it is forward and that is why we must take the country in 2020 history Yang thank you very much Senator Harris thank you. Probably Rand Paul he and I actually I invited him to join me on a bill to end the money bail system in the United States he and I agree on almost nothing but we agree on that and after we joined forces he said to me calmly you know Appalachian loves this and it really made the point that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us and I guess that's why I'm running I do believe that should beat Donald Trump but also to to heal our country we need a leader who has the ability to unify our country and see that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us and I'll tell you my mother. Was 90. And she left India alone and she wanted to travel to learn science because her mission in life was to cure cancer and so she arrived in California she got. You know just post 7 arranged marriage but she got involved in the civil rights movement she met my father and that produced my sister and me they got married but when I was 5 that marriage ended but my mother convinced us that we could do anything and so I became the 1st woman attorney general of California the 2nd black woman elected to the United States center and I will tell you that's part of why I'm running because Donald Trump if he had his way my story would not be possible and I am running to make sure that that dream the American dream American values American ideals well always hold true and so that's what is that stake in this election and I believe I am uniquely able to see the commonalities among us and to speak the story of the American dream and the need to reclaim it thank you Senator Harris mayor but you just. Think about the friendships that I formed in the military people who were radically different from me different generation different race definitely different politics and we learned to trust each other with our lives when they got into my vehicle and when we want to outside the wire they didn't care if I was going home to a boyfriend or girlfriend they didn't care what country my dad immigrated from and whether it was documented or not we just learn to trust each other for the fact that I want every American to have that experience without having to go to war to get there is one of the reasons why I believe national service is so important I guess I'll follow in the pattern tonight and point out you could go to Pete For America dot com and read all about it. It's also about building a sense of belonging in this country because I think that's what friendship and that's what service can create and I think we have a crisis of belonging in this. 3 that is helping to explain so many of our problems from our politics being what it is to the fact that people are self medicating and we're seeing a rise in the deaths from despair I believe only the president can build a sense of belonging and purpose for the entire country the purpose of the presidency is not the glorification of the president it is the unification of the American people and I'm asking for your vote to be that president when the dust clears over the rubble of our norms and institutions at the end of the Trump presidency pick up the pieces and guide us toward a better future Mr Mayor thank you Senator Sanders. When I was chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs. Trying to get through the most comprehensive piece of veterans' legislation in modern American history and I failed I only got 2 Republicans to vote with me in the Senate so we have to go back to the drawing board and I work with John McCain and I certainly did not get in that legislation working with McCain all that I wanted. But it turned out that we were able to pass a very very significant piece of legislation including $5000000000.00 more for the Veterans Administration a more recently I worked with a very conservative Republican from Utah Mike Lee and Michael understood although he and I disagree on everything that the u.s. Involvement in the Saudi led war in Yemen was a catastrophic disaster for the people of Yemen and for the 1st time in 45 years we were able to get the War Powers Act utilized and get us get the votes to get us the u.s. Troops out of that area but I think at the end of the day. What I appreciate is that we have got to end the hatred there Trump is for storing on our people that the bits of this trying to divide us up by the color of our skin the where we were born or our sexual orientation or our religion and there is no job that I would undertake with more passion than bringing our people together around an agenda that works for every man woman and child in this country rather than the corporate elite and the one percent a progressive agenda that stands for all is the way that we transform this country so that our Sanders thank you Senator Warner Home has to bow out of a surprising friend. For me it would be Charles free. 27 years ago when I was under consideration for a job he was someone who had been. George Bush the 1st of solicitor general a deeply principled Republican and we didn't agree on much I was far more liberal than he was but he also was willing to listen to my work about what's happening to America's middle class and Charles engaged with it over and over and ultimately is the person who made sure I got the job you know I grew up out in Oklahoma I have 3 older brothers they all served in the military 2 of the 3 are still Republicans. I love all 3 of my brothers and there are a lot of things that we're divided on but there are core things that we believe in together we want to see all of our children get a good start in life we don't want to see any of our friends or neighbors not get covered by health care we're willing to get out there for the things we believe that look people across this country whether they're Democrats independents or Republicans they know what's broken they know that we have an America that's working better and better and better for a thinner and thinner and thinner slice at the top and leaving everyone else behind people across this country regardless of party or ready to say no more we want an America that works for everyone 2020 is our moment in history it is a dream honor to be here to be in this fight I know what's broken I know how to fix it and we are building a grassroots movement to get it done that includes everyone thank you Senator Warner Vice President Biden. This is reassuring in the fact that we're all acknowledging that we have to reach across Yarrow difference done. No other way to get it being done in this country the 2 people maybe surprise you the most were he's been mentioned twice but John McCain John McCain worked for me when he worked in the Navy and he was mine was assigned to me to travel around the world we became close friends became very close friends of my wife Jill visit our home of the shoulders and on his deathbed he asked me to do is you which John I would say to John John you didn't see or you never wanted to fight he said you didn't see a problem you never want to solve but he was a great man of principle he was honorable he was honorable and one of the things that's the reason why I'm running we have to restore the soul of this country that's why I'm rude doing this in fact this president has ripped the soul out of this country divide us in ways that are absolutely outrageous a liar he cheats he does not do anything to promote people generally Secondly we have to rebuild the middle class and I'm going to do that is to be able to reach across the aisle My dad used to say a jobs but a lot more in a paycheck Joey it's like your dignity we have to restore people's dignity and lastly we have to unite the country because folks it's time we stop walking around our heads down we are better position than any country in the world to own the 21st century so for God's sake get up get up or remember this is the United States of America there's nothing nothing we're going to be unable to do what we decide we're going to do it nothing at all period. 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From going to probably again Party he has a high probability of being reelected no stand what you need to defend a problem and I hate you sometimes I was going to hell I didn't say I don't believe me sometimes I don't miss our next class when we explore the word likelihood joining a chip sometimes we do afternoons 3 to 6. Guns and and but the bottom line is some Walt saved that ship they dodged the bullet so to speak and he would receive a Bronze Star for his heroism in activity during that period the war ins with the victory over the Japanese and Admiral Hansen is in China at the close of the war and they're dealing with the Japanese in the last moments of the Japanese navy he meets a young Russian emigre in Shanghai in these last moments and he marries her after knowing to knowing her for 2 weeks and I think you emphasize that someone was a gambler is that correct Larry. He was a gambler and he played with Satan we should say that he was I think one of the most interesting parts of his early career was he had been made as you know the prize crew Captain and so he was on the 1st ship to basically he had this Japanese ship the Attica that was not no longer flying a Japanese flag but was now flying an American flag and he's the 1st ship up Shanghai Harbor and you know there are thousands and thousands of Chinese on both sides applauding Amen cheering the rival of the Americans the liberators and presume all of this prize group captain and he's invited them to that special dinner and that's where he meets this woman moves who is from Harbin Manchuria who herself has her own. Past and really extraordinary life they had fled the revolution and they were living scattered she lost her mother very romantic stuff all right you can't make this stuff up stuff that's right but she spoke no English she spoke no Russian and within 12 days for they were married and he rolled the dice and he was supposed to deploy in this is to speak about being a gambler he was supposed to deploy the day after their wedding with the Robertson crew you know. Served you know as a team there and he was supposed to deploy the next day and had to back the. States and say to this cause. The transfer to was delayed and he and his wife were able to spend an extra 2 weeks together and and. 9 months later their 1st porno movie. Was born and named after his father the end of the 2nd War laugh. With the decision to stay in the Navy or to leave and go to other occupations he always thought he was going to be a visitation like his parents he decides to stay in the Navy and this is the post-war Navy where the career of young officers was an obvious because of the everybody was leaving the services going back to as to their lives but the young Bud zome Wald does stay in and he becomes and he's an educator in a. Training Corps for the Naval Reserve University of North Carolina I follow a path through the fifty's in which he's both on shore and on land he was an exceptional graduate of Annapolis did he regard his career in the fifty's as slow was he frustrated by this bouncing back and forth. Well you never look back and after some thought that it provided him with a great education what it did was provide him with great tools for leadership and it taught him a great bit about survival but he was one of the great critics of the of the quartet type type of coursework or that it was an awkward to talk about going across roads the great crossroads for him was that meeting. With General George Cabot Marshall. Went down to Pinehurst North Carolina and here is General Marshall both the secretary in between being secretary of state and secretary of defense and some water is pretty sure that he's not going to go into the military is going to go to medical school and it is General Marshall convinces him that his country will need people like him after war after the end of the world at the end of the war and that would stay in the service and he decides to do that and of course that leads him to the other great mentor of his life. Yes Well we'll go to the Pentagon next this is through the fifty's into the sixty's because there's a tension here that we have to identify that meeting in Vietnam was not as successful Mome move by. Walt in fact that was meant to be the end of his career because the tension in the Navy is between the aviators those who believe they won the 2nd World War in the Pacific and I have reason to believe they did the battle that the aircraft carriers were the great weapons system not the guy not the big gun fleets of the battleships or their helpmates the destroyers but 0 becomes the black shoe Navy used to be called The Gun Club and when we come back the gun club versus the aviators in the 1960 s. The book is some Walt The Life and Times of Admiral Elmo Russell ball Jr Larry Berman is the author on John Bachelor. John Bachelor I'm changing. 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I'm John bashing and this is the John Basser show and I'm speaking with Larry Berman his biography and others on the life and times battle Elmo Russell June describes a period where the United States Navy truck was transformed not just by the 2nd war and the victory over the Japanese and the successful rebuilding of the fleet into a battle fleet senator around the aircraft carrier and the aviators rather than the battle fleets of the 1st war and the imaginings of Yamamoto and the great admirals who thought that it was going to all be a gun club but the transformation into the fifty's in the Cold War period and then into Vietnam and the crisis of that for America Larry we we need to go to the Pentagon here because the naval officers career bounces back and forth between going to see taking to command and then being on the shore admirals. Of Bud's I'm Walt as he climbs through the ranks is going very fast and my reading of your book is one of the reasons he goes fast is he meets a man named Nitsa Who is that and what does it do for bugs this is towards the end the fifty's in the sixty's when he met Paul Nitze and it was the assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs and he was at the time one of the most distinguished. Foreign policy x. Where x. Experts and in the country highly respected highly regarded graduated from Harvard . Been a kid been a lawyer. An investment bank but the bottom line is that he was one of the keepers of u.s. Foreign policy a real true cold warrior in the best sense of the word and someone who had extraordinary distrust of the Soviet Union which by the way who would become characteristic of some wartime I call the chapter Plato and Socrates because it really is by some what sort of mission. This man told it sort of basically taught him how to think politically about things that he had never learned in the Navy he is executive assistant senior aide to Paul Nitze secretary of the Navy from December of 63 that's a period of crisis for the United States you could this is after Jack Kennedy's John Kennedy's assassination Lyndon Johnson is now president until June of $65.00 during the the L.B.J.'s decision to launch America in Vietnam but knit say is chiefly a man concerned with Europe and the Soviet threat the fact that Zim walls had married a French Russian into a French Russian family Orthodox Russian ceremony and he learned and least nominally Russian with his wife in those early days of courting does that help him with nets or. Well yes it does help them when it's up because 1st of all it's a really light. Wife. And of course one of the things that happen is that the punches of Wall Street get not only from my ass a but eventually but it's more to director of the Arms Control division that usually would go to someone much more senior just a great increase and this is all because the war had such faith and the wall perspective the issues of nuclear proliferation and foreign policy so what we see here is the evolution of Walt as a thinker as a foreign policy strategist and no one knows it's going to become c. And o. Are going to be sent to Vietnam and I many ways I think if I was grooming him for a career. In the Defense Department in the Pentagon on and someone who might be of service to president says if they had had been for Tenet also I think that is the really crucial point here I think the saw in some Walt are true protege someone who could hold and the best sense of the word and these are 2 brilliant men were headed to Vietnam as a side car here because right now there's a battle that continues to this day and it's policy stuff but that's the u.s. Navy. And some wall to my reading Larry a look at the plans for the f. $111.00 b. And propose that it is not appropriate for the aviators for the battle for the the carriers they eventually chose the f. 14 which we know is probably still flying right now is somewhere in the world it's the big the big It's the big missile platform of the 1960 s. And seventy's and eighty's and ninety's but that battle that is knit say and some Walt who are black shoe dunk a gun club taking on the aviators more and Miller Jerry Mary Miller How do they win that. They say they win that battle primarily because it's out both of them and they've got to and they've got to you're both the president and they've got to you're the key Senate committees and. And they also were able and this is were someone really was valuable they were able to generate tests and study that showed that the feasibility for the team was so much better than the previous model that you know were and more course more hold it against the wall for a long more was at that point scieno sec. He was he was you know at that time what is the significance that we keep calling it scieno is it for a bunch of Navy brats What is the scieno its naval operations which is the which is the head of the Navy and lives in the vice president's house or the other way around the vice president lives in the scieno south that's correct at the battle however has consequences because while Nitsa remains the man who is very much promoting and moving does very quickly what do you call a deep promotion right when they screw over a lot of your senior officers senior colleagues to a to choose you to be a captain or an admiral keeps getting deep promoted but he hits a wall and the wall is that more and Miller resent him or resent the whole idea of the black shoe Navy and now we come back to Vietnam it's 968. The the fact is that some wall has not taken frigate commands he's been in Washington with knit south through this period 65 and he thinks that he's going to take a frigate but he doesn't he stays as plans and that's why the did the debate over the aircraft and whether it's f. 111 b. Or the f. 14 but more gets his revenge because he plans to sue. Send him to Vietnam why at that time was that seen as a defeat for for Forbes and Walt was the death of anyone and any Admiral because there had been an average who went to Vietnam when he when ever heard of and of course but it been a systems he was the head of systems analysis in the Pentagon that is really crucial because that's what he was generating the studies that were driving more crazy because every time the systems analysis people did a study it showed that basically what more was saying wasn't holding wasn't holding its weight and the more data that they had the more compelling it was and that led to these defeats and someone had to figure out a way to get this guy out of Washington d.c. And then time was Admiral of that time in Vietnam was coming up and he decided that he would stand. Some wall to Vietnam and present it as a promotion but the only problem was that it was only a 2 star position and he knew it would never let So war go without getting a 3rd star and making it a promotion so he put the board on the trade him or said Ok I'm going to let him go to Vietnam will give Mr Starr no one will ever hear from him again and but what sort of strategy he got his 3rd star and he went to Vietnam and let me just say I'm a war was wrong. Creighton Abrams says the Navy's got to get involved Bud's them all gathers his command he has some craft it's the brown water navy the swift boats you know them well because of the campaign in 2004 that emphasize that John Kerry now secretary of state was on swift boats so was buds son Elmo on swift boats but that isn't the problem the problem is the sniping and the pot shotting by the Vietnam by the Viet Cong and the Vietnamese from the heavy foliage and the solution is or Agent Orange What is that Larry. Well it's a chemical to full and that when you when when sprayed or dropped. Kills the vegetation to move and took the took the advantage away from the c c That is prior to that time these small crafts with patrol but the enemy could pick them off and I should by background I should say the Navy was taking casualties at a very high rate because of these because of the new off answers of with the 1st question you asked me to and I was there what happened at that meeting between Abrams and the wall and as I said that Abrams told him you know you gotta get back in this game and if you don't get a game you're not going to get to see the table will assume all got into the game and he was very aggressively taking the war to the v.c. The problem was that the v.c. Still had the advantage of respect to camouflage the far of the foliage so something had to be done h.r. And offered an answer to take that advantage away Walt asked is this stuff harmful to any and to anybody any living things except vegetation he received a guarantee that it that it was only would only kill the plants and the weeds and he gave the order to spray and of course that led to one of the tragic ironies of his life that his son who was a who was a swift boat commander. Would eventually succumb to cancers attributed to Agent Orange and I might say by the way that it wasn't just spraying raster remember these sailors and I must talk to 60 of them wrote this book many of them who had cancers are ready. And were and were now covered. They drank the water they faced they bathed in this water and so this stuff didn't kill plants it eventually would kill our own sailors the book is a moth to life in times of Admiral Elmo Russell blood film junior Larry Berman vs. Was meant to be the end of his career. 1970 right before the. For the Nixon administration. 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Listening to the John Bachelor show. Larry the. Life and. Went. Back to the Cold War in the 20th century fighting the Soviet aggressor April of 70 Richard Nixon invites a bud some Walt the 3 star to be chief of naval operations he's 49 years old this is very young for c.n.o. What was the advantage to Mr Nixon at the time why didn't it so prove this. Well this this is this is really a great question and the answer is no route rather evident which is that every one interview for the jobless you know had an answer suspect How did you want the Soviet navy Oh how did. Deal with the war in Vietnam but no one had an answer to the to the following question which is we're we're no longer going to have a draft we're going to have an all volunteer army and no the old volunteer service and no one is signing up to join the realist rates and if you're lower than all the other armed services but some Walt had a People Program that's what he called it he had a program for how to make the Navy attractive how to make service attractive and how to increase reenlistment rates and and Secretary Laird and Henry Kissinger like that was secretary of defense Kissinger of course was the national security adviser and they they sold it to the president and one of the great ironies because later Kissinger and somewhat would become arch rivals and the president went for it and and so here comes the Walt the youngest scieno in history is 3 predecessors had been aviators the person he was replacing with now Admiral Moore was now as boss and had not really even supported him for this job before he was way too young to become scieno and that his career would be over by 54 years old and that was a tragedy thought he should have been sent out to be the head of the Pacific fleet and there were big challenges the Soviet navy that was increasing in size and versatility quality and it was confronting for the 1st time the United States and free will lakes and what was the strategy going to be and and then how how was this Navy going to be attractive in an in an old volunteer for an old volunteer service and how could the Navy compete for personnel and resources with all the other services and then there was the war in Vietnam where Nixon had just announced that we were transitioning the intimidation of the war we were transitioning out so what would the wall too there and these were trying times and after a decade of burgeoning military spending this is a period of reduction and it all fell on a wall. The feud in the Nixon administration I'm surprised to learn was between Laird and some Walt and Kissinger I don't know where Mora was this more was promoted to chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff What was that what was the basis for the few did they have different visions of Vietnam or different visions of the Soviets which what drove it or what drove it was arms control and and so waltz the waltz feeling along when it's. Sort of actually resignation as it's from government was that Nixon and Kissinger and the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks salt salt were from the American public the truth and that they were cutting a deal that the American public and the Congress knew about it they would oppose it because they were giving away too much in it. And so it was believed that that so desperate with Nixon and Kissinger prickly Kissinger to secure this deal that they were treating American strength and superiority and they pushed and pushed and pushed and as you know from reading the book This led to some really great battles but it really centered centered on arms control and the sort. Melvin Laird was the secretary of defense did he side with the Malden it's and this. Was it was much closer to some one's position and Kissinger and Nixon much closer this is salt one and the debate is over the Cold War It's not forget Naam although there was this other part that and Laird and some all very much opposed the way Kissinger did business which was they back channel. Another words not straightforwardly but retires from the Navy very young man 53 July of 74 he runs for the Democratic candidate say for the United States as a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate from Virginia against the very famous if and longstanding Harry Byrd. The incumbent senator he loses and now as a young man he turns to other occupations the business but also Agent Orange he's asked eventually by the Pentagon to head up a study group about Agent Orange as his son lays dying eventually dies Elmos Walt a veteran of the Swift Boats that dies in 1980 is bugs him while responsible is he the one man to look for to to say that Agent Orange was fairly a regarded in the late 20th century as the the cause of all the damage to these veterans. Yes I think that's a that's an interesting way to put it yes. His his status drove the drove the Pentagon because they were very reluctant Well right what happened was of course that is as a son lay dying Colton's on and he pledged to his son. That he. Is a man who had dedicated his life to duty honor and sacrifice he pledged to a son who would find out who would lie to him and who would miss misled him with respect to. This you know this decision aren't but more important that his son was dead but all of these other sailors and their children were being afflicted by cancers and so but said to too many people and said My son is dead but I'm going to fight now for all the rest of my sailors because I felt so responsible for what happened to his son it's a terrible thing and so when and so he worked for one dollar a year for a congressional committee investigating this that was Congressman Durst Committee and with the 15 of power that he had he began subpoena documents and. Studies that previously had never seen of what he uncovered was a giant cover up by the chemical companies who had a doll in mint Santo they had created from the federal government from the Pentagon the fact that their own. Laboratory tests showed that when you heated these chemicals at 40 or 50 times which is what the military grade for this isn't the stuff you and I use in our garden to kill weeds even though it is called the oxen this is you know this is military grade that they had evidence that this was killing. Myself and rats and causing birth deformities in laboratories and so and so. President Bush. The 1st Bush. Gets the studies he says he's devastated any and he is he's the 1st president to order the 3 cancers will be covered. For those exposed to herbicides envious and in Vietnam and but it's under President Clinton where someone becomes a special advisor on this issue and $998.00 Clinton gives them all the Presidential Medal of Freedom the highest honor that we can give to a civilian in arc in our country for never stopping the fight and the battle for the Vietnam veterans and by the time some what was done $21.00 or $22.00 additional cancers recovered and I think when people think of them all today this is my experience from talking to his sailors he was always loved by his sailors it's very easy to find admirals and they say they always speak disparagingly against him because he shook up the system so much but the sailors loved him and they loved him because he never stopped fighting for them and you know when I meet these sailors today most of them were my age now in their sixty's or in the beginning of their seventy's they think back to what some wall did for them not only in Vietnam but for the rest of their lives it's the story of what Ernest King meant by leadership that's what someone does live by and that's why at the Naval Academy where he was buried in the year 2000 is only one word on his tombstone one word is you know it's reformer because that's what he was the book is a moth to life in times of Admiral Elmo Russell bods Jr Larry Berman is the author on John Bash. 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