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When Trump was elected and his fascination with Andrew Jackson of course Andrew Jackson was one of the worst presidents I mean compare him to George Washington who actually wanted to incorporate it of Americans into our country Jackson literally had a price on their head you know for children everybody and the way that thing unfolded it just made sense that that would be of course his famous his favorite president but Harriet Tubman was scheduled to be on the $20.00 bill and I remember when I 1st heard that I thought that's fantastic I think we're going to be on the $10.00 bill but then Hamilton had been my more Miranda to help him out and as he should because he was on one of most overlooked founding fathers we had but the thing I found fascinating was to see this the Sarah Tubman story unfold and then to see the mocked you know dollar bills and I thought to myself Of course it would only make sense that we might have an African-American and somebody who was responsible for bravery and freedom and all those things well turns out there's a great book right now called the Tom in command and joining us right now is Professor Elizabeth Cobb nice enough to join us 2nd time we've spoken to neither one of us can remember when the 1st time was what was your 1st book that we've been talking about well that might have been about Alexander Hamilton although my last novel was called the Hamilton remember now where I remember our speak I know we did in person or not so this is bad for I care you have terrible memory but your. Writing is anyway so so this is this is interesting there was an article about a month ago that I just I said your publicist and you just saw about minutia who's in the news today course because he's not been released from taxes but the the the machinations behind changing somebody on a bill is not apparently not as easy as it sounds and especially somebody like Harriet Tubman I mean is amazing story as she has and what you chronicle in your book. It's still she's African-American and she's a woman she's got both those things working against her right yeah but those should be things working for her I think right. Yeah I started writing this book because I just I just got so excited about her story and I felt like I didn't know it as well as I wanted to and this was actually even before you know the whole thing came up to put her on the 20 and I was not engaged in that original campaign in fact the original campaign was not to put Harriet Tubman on but to put a woman on because we're the only democracy modern democracy in the in the world that does not have a woman on our currency I mean everybody a liberty dime for a while but with the woman right well you have the right there's all that kind of stuff but you know it's just odd in a democracy usually your currency reflects your kind of national story and by having no women it's as if saying women were never part of the story that women played no role in the founding of our country or in the you know the growth of our country and that's that is how history books used to be written and in fact even I started researching this story thought well gosh I don't want to be one of those people who makes a mountain out of a molehill you know I want to know how exactly how significant this particular woman was and Tubman story is the underground where all of that it's so remarkable give us if you can like the nickel version of how she started the Underground Railroad how long it lasted the risks and what it was like in 1965 is that pretty much the well she started in basically $84960.00 yeah so she when she was $27.00 she herself was the slave and here's the crazy purchase she was married to a man who wasn't slaved to was married to a free black man who thought she was so amazing that he was willing to marry a woman with whom he would only have children who would be slaves so what that where they both in the south they're both in the south there was a part of Maryland where you had some free blacks as well as slaves peoples and so they were married and she left him because he wasn't willing to go with her. To help her get to freedom of course the only way she could was by by running and so after that he alongside it is an interesting and romantic story by the way which is why I wrote it partly as a novel because it makes such a fantastic to be a is it going to be a movie because I know you and your husband are filmmakers as well we are but there's also a new narrative film that's coming out very soon about Harriet Tubman so who knows but so long story short yes she's on the Underground Railroad for about 11 years she's the only person I know of as a historian and you know a lot of people involved in the Underground Railroad but no one no one like her who went back with a price on their head that got higher every year to get other people to free people were looking for her she wanted all throughout she was wanted her name was known although she had a code name we know she goes by the name Moses Now Moses is a man's name too in fact she actually had a brother she was one to one of 9 kids had 4 brothers and sisters who are older 4 who are younger. None of her sisters made out of slavery none of her 4 sisters all of her 4 brothers because she made sure that they got it so it's just you know epic story but that's not even my book. So there's more as they say so the book is actually about it takes place over a week and a half during the American Civil War when Harriet Tubman helps to plan and execute one of the most important raids to free people during that 4 year war. Where oh where was the raid the raid was on took place off the coast of South Carolina it was kind of this point the war were no he's really sure who's going to win because I mean you have to remember that the 11 states of the Confederacy are bigger than all of Europe all of your eyes yeah it was amazing it was amazing that the North I mean part of it was I think that since so many people the South did not own slaves they had to convince them that this was you know an intrusion from the north and that the north where there. They're to oppress them which was not you know I mean I did not play a little part of the the. The reason why I mean the South was going to go and they were going to go north so as long as they were there and the north continued to build munitions and all I mean was it really of the war about slavery to the north or was it about the South's succession Well that's a really great question and that's when those questions it gets seems more tangled sometimes over time I mean if you actually read the statements of secession you know like that declaration of causes for right of these states is the seated unless because South Carolina because South Carolina was the 1st and they say very clearly that they're doing this to defend their institution of slavery that's an important bedded in their economy that they feel it's their right so yes they are defending states' rights but it's the state's right to enslave people now the crazy thing and you're completely right the vast majority of white Southerners do not own slaves but you know they benefit from it in some ways I would imagine lower prices and things like that you know there's a buddy of mine that used to do a joke Grant Taylor and he said he goes from a mindset you know the Civil War one fought over slavery it was fought over economics because yeah you don't want to pay the help right but. It is funny you know because like I when I think of just how seriously they took it they could hang you for trying to escape right I mean the owner legitimately hang you owner could hang you for picking your nose right owner could hang your property tying your shoes properly I mean most people didn't want to destroy their own property any more than you and I will go out and put a match to our houses to collect insurance right but you know that's been known to happen. And the other thing is this just human beings to live with human being so you know sometimes you do have people who are crazy you know is one of the people I have to record again mind our listeners pressure Elizabeth Cobb you're you come with come tonight is a time at the Commonwealth Club tonight I hope people will join me that's at 6 o'clock in the next. Going to be down the peninsula at Kepler's books on Wednesday Wednesday evening so the whole idea behind I mean there are so many incredible stories of African-Americans in the south so one of you have seen this one about these. Guys these slaves are on this boat and it was like more like off Charleston and their owners would go in and to gamble or whatever and they were still on the boat when I was they realized we could steal this s.o.b we could just take this thing and they did and they went all the way up to where they you know the line of demarcation where they got free I guess was the of the version of the Mason Dixon line into the into the ocean literally and I saw this story on. C.b.s. Good morning or some one of those Sunday morning shows and they were talking about these stories and I thought how are these not movies the congressman right after the Civil War These blacks literally within a couple years ran for Congress and Senate and they were elected but then broke for b. Hayes cut a deal with the South when he didn't win the popular vote electoral college and he said Ok I will pull the troops and guard the polls and he did and then of course you know the Jim Crow came in for another 100 years it was the stories are just I mean they're tragic and amazing and it's you know an inherent time of all and you know I think that we we tend to shy away from telling them we're not sure who can tell the story right who gets to tell which stories I'm a historian I've written 8 books this is my 8th book and I always feel and I feel this when I teach as well that you know George Washington is all are here he's an American Martin Luther King is an American Harriet Tubman is our national patriotic heroine and so it's I think it's really important for us to kind of all buy into that and understand that and be ennobled by it I mean why do we tell those stories because they inspire us to be better people I think and like a light coming cyber better than that so it reminds us of the ways in which we're better than that and Harriet Tubman is like you know Mother Teresa and Queen Latifa and Spiderman all rolled into one she was she ever caught. Never never and that I imagine. Yeah or imagine that. There are a lot of people risk their lives to protect her day has her notoriety groove right what imagine inspired African-Americans at that time relate to although it's more that I mean she was a master of disguise and you know I always remember and I say this as a person and middle age you know they always say the best bank robbers are middle aged women because no one's going to suspect us you know and so with Harriet Tubman and she's 5 foot 0 she weighs like $110.00 pounds I despise it because she's always bigger on that where the image on the dollar on that 20 that that everybody looks big. So you know she says this little itty bitty thing and and she's very clever it disguises and she just cries or self as an old person or just a young person she's a bit of a flirt like there but there are stories where she goes up you know she's worried she's going to get caught I mean she's she's walking towards a boat that she intends to get on and she can't turn around because they've already seen or if she turns around she looks like she's running away so she walks right up to these white guys and starts flirting with them does the craziest thing you know she talks about I'm looking for a better husband this time because my husband such a jerk and you know she just does all those things that people do. When they are truly clever at clandestine work what's the status of her getting on the $20.00 bill what has to happen well it's you know in a way it's obviously Secretary Minucci and has to go forward it's it was a plan that was already approved it was approved and it was announced but that was under President Obama that Secretary of the Treasury and then when President came into office mission just said well we're putting our plan on hold it Geithner was Geithner his 2nd hour on it wasn't guy you know it was a 1st right last it was Lou But I yeah you forget I know he got some kind of scandal or something I don't think Yeah but now actually Alija Cummings the congressman over. Has it as a a bill in Congress of course it's still an administrative decision this is an executive branch decision so I mean I'd love to see everyone call their congress representative and say hey you know sign on for allies are coming says bill which is actually also sponsored by Representative catacomb of New York so that's a bipartisan it's Republican really. But it would have been a resolution right because it's as far as a bill goes I mean it's since it's an executive it's an exaggeration I says Jackson that was just a just the worst of the worst I mean he's one of the worst American presidents. Simply for what he did you know and I mean outs even outside the presidency to the Native Americans and that period of time was a shameful the Trail of Tears everything that came out of that you know the presidency was just horrible and just a book you know staying on. Another stain on the early American. History but so do you think I mean it's it's interesting I mean some of the Harriet Tubman should be bigger much better known there are some schools named after him things and all let me ask you this question this is kind of weird with just the like and even a minute left. Do you think we'll have any kind of semblance of a civil war or you're historian I mean with everybody's talking about what happens right now you know if Trump is defeated in 2020 and he doesn't want to leave office and have to drag him out of office I mean all these things play out I mean do you get a sense that we're going to get worse before we get better. We could get worse before we get better but I don't think we'll have a civil war I mean if you you know the economic integration of the 50 states is very deep our shared values on the very say only reason is our money well I'm just saying this sort of like the European Union I mean yes you know you're right people wanting to exit at times but we do have this really long history of working it out and I have great hopes for that is where against that will pull through your lips to America's ears I hope was with Cobb thank you so much for coming in and get the Commonwealth Club tonight and they can get the book anywhere at the top command by telling them a command and it's about the American Civil War I hope you read it and got romance Well what about for kids to get good is a good one for young people well as for like my book The Hamilton affair I think sort of younger adults would find it interesting it's you know it's as I said it has romance and it's very close the way it's not a movie yet and you know you can see I can see somebody like you know very well right I thank you so much for coming I really appreciate it big day everybody coming up the Kentucky Derby one horse won and the other one the lectern college anyway that's all coming up next Ok Joe Franklin. 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This is I'm a you're watching my fair share of the over Tiger Tiger Woods went to the White House later on put a freaking ribbon on and I just you know really only in you know how I feel about tribe and how I don't care about golf at all but I think that Tyra Woods has made it a huge accomplishment you don't like the president doesn't mean the Tiger Woods doesn't deserve the award the cost with him on many years that bothers me with him and you still like to before an elven he gets the medal and you know like amount thinking like there was a tip of the medal is the tipping point going to the White House is the tipping point but I am I you know I think that's you know I can refer I like Ricky Fowler or you know what's wrong with America I am your fickleness about liking people Oh that's all. Anyway the Kentucky Derby I love this story I love the trunk came out and called the politically cool. Thing. Because the political correctness it's the rules I mean what I say you know the rules of day don't apply I don't like the ending at that you know it's funny and sack who is. Pretty was in here we were talking about this and he said he had that horse it was a 65 to one odds one that one had smothered you about what's the name of the horse when I didn't write it down mother something. I think his mother and he said that horse had that horse run. Next week I had this Country House. Country and even I don't know what he was talking about he said there was another horse that maybe finished 3rd that had mother in it was the one that had mother well in his story makes no sense sorry right now I'm going to security and country house are the ones the 2 Ok there were on the interstates anyway but the lanes if you see he clearly got out of his lane even though yes he did yeah and he got many could hurt a lot of people he could get his money and needed to deliver the owner the horse was on Good Morning America this morning or today show and was talking about how he you know he says I want to appeal but apparently in Kentucky they say they're for their decisions final there's no appeal Well yeah but apparently also whichever one not some security whatever the one they want go the 1st one. He'll be in the race box as the winner though really Yeah I was watching the news and they were saying yeah he still goes down as the one across the finish line 1st yeah but I was shocked that I do you know I wonder how that affects his breeding fees and all that stuff to well that's what they were saying that he's not going to compete in the next Derby or whatever the looking like there's no point as I can't get the Triple Crown right any good start amount for a hell of money. Well you know I know but do you know that if you just drop the disease you know he will and I'm going to I might start free for example goes it varies depending on demand. And it might come up we'll talk about this I I don't understand how Trump could not turn his taxes over since there's a freaking law that says he has to will find out coming up next Ok. So. 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Special Counsel Robert Muller should not testify before Congress now it was just a couple of days ago he said well the decisions up to the attorney general Bill Barr the attorney general says I have no problem with that it's pretty confusing isn't it well to find out what's going on we'll talk with Shane Harris and he is a Washington Post national security reporter Shane it's a back and forth like a ping pong game you know a little bit although I think it's kind of following maybe a somewhat predictable law in here which you know originally from kind of deferred to the attorney general saying well it's really up to him and then the attorney general has really gotten himself in the crosshairs of Democrats on the Hill who are now saying he lied to Congress I suppose in that respect to suppression of the president's reversing himself but I think part of what's going on here too is that the public has had. Time to spend with similar report and start to digest some of it and by no means I think it all people read all 450 some pages of it but need to spectacle of having Bob Muller on television answering questions about this would recently I think the president wants to avoid it would reach millions of people and really create some kind of must see t.v. Moment soon as we know the president spends a lot of time paying attention to that so I think that's maybe what's driving him now to try and for strict Mala from going up and testifying all of which I understand but the key question I have is can he restrict them another words if there's a subpoena and he has to go and testify in front of Congress can the president say no you can't do that yeah that's kind of an open question I think the short answer that is probably not I mean no he could simply say you can disregard the subpoena but Muller is at least for the moment anyway still an employee of the Justice Department I suppose there might be some leverage the president could exert there it's just not really clear how the president would be able to Wolf legally and politically affect just absolutely stop Bob Muller from testifying particularly since the attorney general said he has no objections to it so that's a little squishy more kind of maybe an unprecedented area but I don't think it would be as simple as the president simply saying I won't let him do it is it as simple as Democrats are saying in other words the reason that the president won Mulder to testify so obvious because obviously he's hiding stuff and Mullin would expose that I don't know about that because I don't think that Bob Muller is really going to say much beyond what see in 448 page report I don't think we should expect that he has some big new reveal that he's been hiding or that he didn't put in the final report saying what the president you know again is more concerned about is that Bob Muller testifying on television is going to reach many many more people and inform them of his findings and simply Bob Mueller putting out a lengthy and very dense report Yeah but don't forget it was Mahler who wrote the letter to Barney said something like that the investigation didn't fully capture the context the nature and the substance of his work that's right so we know he's already had concerns in the past about a misstatement to. Mischaracterization leading to a misapprehension on the part of the public and he need to say that in the letter that he writes a parson actually look the way you just read the report is going to lead to confusion about what it really says so that may be some motivation for Mahler to want to come up and speak to it and make sure that he can clearly and in no uncertain terms say what he meant one more question you've got an Adler and he is the head of the committee and he is saying contempt of Congress is a very likely citation that could be issued on Wednesday Well what does that mean well it's likely the issue a contempt citation and it's going to set up a legal battle over the report itself and it's going to kind of I think you know enter into this entire practice that we have going on right now I mean you know we kind of know how this plays out I think it's probably more political ramifications to it and legal ones. Thank you so much for joining us Jane is national security reporter for The Washington Post we'll talk to you again thanks that's the No one's report every weekday at 1130 again it's 330 and 730. Now that's Franklin. That's of course. We're with you today till 6 o'clock Monday through Friday doing this messy thing I love to have you join us 810 should trump. 2 questions here today and the 1st one is the Nancy Pelosi of course and you've just put She said it out last She's a speaker of the house and she question whether or not Trump would would leave if he lost a close election and you know what I mean I can picture him saying no but then eventually leaving but I can picture him trying well course I can picture him doing a lot as well making his nose leaving the builder on the wall who knows what you 1st. The 2nd is. What is he hiding I mean. If everything I know you know that you do have that sound can you play that sound of him with the outside talking about his taxes we get that it's Ok we don't have it I just listen to him just stumble through this I won't do it if I'm not under orders I won't do it I have no problem with that but while I'm under audit I would not get my dad because there's no law whatsoever down I will say this. I would love to give them. But I'm not going to do it it is very simple Remember I got elected last time the same exact case you were the same intensity when you last night had issues are going to try to scare Dani anyway 5 Dani you lost that one anyway so the question really is to there's 2 questions and well you can respond 810 and number one should trump have to give over his taxes every other American has to I mean there's no executive privilege of this going to go to the Supreme Court the Supreme Court's going to rule that he has to turn over but he's trying to buy for time I think the Supreme Court hopefully will ask for the case right away so it doesn't hang there in the wind and that's up to Roberts Roberts can expedite that and say give us a case right now we'll tell you and maybe the Democrats might do that they might appeal to the Supreme Court enough you can but they're going to you know a court's going to tell trump that he has to turn him over that's what's going to happen well yeah but it's going to take a while that's what they're saying but I don't know I think you know anything that goes through the courts has to take a certain amount of time no really the Supreme Court can actually ask for the case right away I think the Supreme Court's going to ask for the case this is an important or less Let's find out go to former prosecutor now criminal defense attorney friend of ours our Randy Zelin Randy how does that work in the Supreme Court if they think that's really important expedited the kind of like in the on the case of Gore versus. Bush back in 2000 Absolutely but then of course it begs the question it's true they want to. Jump into this pool and create a further partisan divide create the further possibility 'd that this could actually backfire on the Democrats how does the way that the well let's let's let's take a step back what we're talking about when we talk about a lot what we are talking about is that where there is a written request from the head of the House Ways and Means Committee upon that written request for example v. Head of the I arrest the head of the iris shall not say not I'll get back to you not let me think about it shall furnish those tax returns and if the taxpayer does not want it made public that's got to be done behind closed doors and it has to be done privately So yes there is a lot not too many people know that it exists because how many times does the House Ways and Means Committee demand of the head of the r.s. That you turn over a tax return certainly never happened with a sitting president because historically sitting presidents turn over their tax returns voluntarily in a show of transparency right but I always worry at what point does this become piling on and at what point does the president simply look at his base and look to the country and say My God people. Look how much money you have in your pockets every week look at the stock market look at the unemployment rate what do you people want for me we're girding had a 22 month investigation where I have been cleared of criminality that's a lot not accurate and it's not accurate he has not been cleared of criminality or indicted because he couldn't be an underage us to have rules that we're now splitting hairs and getting into the weeds but he sure you're trying to hold on you're trying to talk like you think the American public thinks is what you're saying or you don't. Know but the same way the Supreme Court can agree not to take a case or to the case on a technicality and then you would all of the time Ok Go to the argument be made that to special prosecutor did not come out and say the president committed obstruction of justice not President colluded with the Russians to influence the election and it was brandy hold on a 2nd wait a 2nd our special counsel would not say that because that would be inaccurate that has to be determined by a jury and or judge not a special counsel a special counsel's job was to accumulate as much evidence as he could and lay it before the Justice Department and let them do it with what they will and that's exactly what he did he was not supposed to go in there also the special counsel was in fact a prosecutor and prosecutors make prosecutorial decisions well yes he did he did 34 people exactly I don't I don't think this one and it may very well be on a technicality because you can indict a sitting president which by the way is not a law it's policy but that begs the question why don't you plot if you want to turn around and say listen I can't you want to think unless Janet Reno Janet Reno Janet Reno. Had it not been for Jan arena we might still have an independent counsel which could have done all those things but that's kid that was under Ken Starr and Ken Starr was such a cluster bomb they got rid of it and they got this we need thing that had a can do actually do nothing for anybody look all I'm saying is if we want off on a tangent Here's the House Ways and Means Committee under law has the ability to request any Us citizens taxes that is the law or the president is not to hold on it's not going to comply with their request that is a violation of the law that needs to go to the highest court in the land to determine exactly how to resolve this and it has to happen fast correct. Ok can and it can but the question is will it or are it or is the president going to try to run out the clock which by the way creates another dilemma for the president because once he's no longer a sitting president he can be indicted Oh yeah boys boys what you gonna do you got to wonder you gotta wonder what do you do do you say let's deal with it now why you can't do anything to me. To not keep you why do you think and look what a great job I got for this country or do I think I'm smarter than everybody and say I'll just wait this all away to all noble The President Well what you're no longer president that everybody gets to see that the emperor ain't wear it in the clothes . You're now going to Randy zealot who is the ultimate contrary and I love you and he has he this so what do you think if the president loses let's say by what say it comes down to like a like a 11 or 2 states or one state and he loses the and electoral college very violent 5050 points or some like that so he says I'm not going to leave office I was I was robbed and I'm not going to leave I mean he asked to leave there's no one votes of certified and then they get goes through the Electoral College and they're given to the House of Representatives and certified. When they come it when they come in and just what Marshall's remove them got I would love to see well I think it's really the opposite I think what you need to get to and I read I read up on a lot of this because I find the fact that it could happen by the way Nancy Pelosi is afraid it's going to happen that's why we're talking here is what you're going to do you need to do a couple of things 1st of all you need to go to the military and you've got to get a commitment from everybody in a position of power in the military that if the president loses the election you are not going to listen to him any longer because technically he's no longer the commander in chief so you. Got to promise me that you're not going to do anything stupid very quickly and have a real quick although Randy though he could lose the election of Amber the 3rd but he's still president told January the 20th so. Why do you think I listen top 10 or 20 percent. Yeah you're not going to listen to this guy you gotta go to the governors and say look you guys run your individual state you girls run your individual state you've got to promise me that you are going to support. Who ever is the incoming president and you've got to go to the Electoral College folks you've got to say listen you got to promise you're going to vote the way you're supposed to vote and you're not going to be influenced out of fear or any kind of craziness that this country is going to end up in a civil war if President Trump should decide you know what I'm not really digging these results luchadores I'm not going anywhere Well it's already been a slow moving coup in my opinion and that that this this I mean you just look at the federal government there's not a son man that he hasn't the positions he has and failed and the people that he's put in the positions that are there and then you start looking at all the people that have been close to him what they have said from McMaster to Teller son from madness to Priebus to Kelly to go down the list they're all kind of everything from f. And moron to Janet Yellen said he didn't know anything about macroeconomics the whole thing is ripe for him to do something crazy especially especially if he's facing jail when he leaves the economy stupid everybody even today the market was down 450 some odd points and then all of a sudden it comes back people are going to say what is my paycheck look like do I have a job do I have money to take my family after dinner to go to Disney World and if I do that everything else yeah I mean while the ocean levels keep rising the temperature gets warmer the weather gets more severe you know he has to he has a military fleet headed to Iran right now just to distract us from this I mean there's no reason to go over there why why are we attacking Iran when Russia is attacking us and he 7 phone calls in a little mad you know little sessions with Putin on the phone by the way the Russians say that Putin that he called Putin and it was 90 minutes not 60 Minutes I don't know. What it whatever it is as I said I'm kind of not honest Alan I'm counting on you to leave the resistance that's all I'm saying I. Ok Randy thank you my friend always great talking about it Randy Zelin again former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney I'd say that does freak me out that he would not leave I mean you know. Because I think it's ridiculous to think of that like Randy said you're going to get him out it's just you're not president any why do you think that that particular thing that people are so fed up with having to listen to this president the once the American people have spoken he is no longer president they won't help it scored him out he has 60000000 people crazy people look at I think our energy bill at the White House the people that would be in charge of physically having to remove him if it actually got to that position oh if I were him if I was going to do this I would I would start the day I lost the election and start getting military fired trying to find military people military works I just think that you're undermining. The the loyalty of our military to abide by the rules of this country I mean traumatizes president and he has undermined many of our our norms but I do not think that that would happen I do not I mean everything indicates to me that he has absolutely no respect for anything that we do in this nation that I get I get it but it's not the men and women that serve this country and have a job to tell you right now these aircraft carrier and these frigates are all headed towards Iran right now and they all know this is ridiculous that the CIA and the n.s.a. Haven't given any updates to the White House and months now because they're freaking out you know I've every body that doesn't think he's capable of this I think is why does no Evil bill of having a temper tantrum and not wanting to leave I am just saying he will be forced to if he loses the election coming up on your phone calls 8810 want to talk to you about it also what's wrong with the South there's a boob there's a little boogie bar in every corner of the south right but breastfeed your kid in a courtroom and they'll put your kid in protective services. Do you hear the story I got it for you next. 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Joe in Castro Valley you know I think it's likely that Trump would not want to leave I think that's all bunch of Ballyhoo. Agree with you here because they know or care if you listen the last couple years of military every general that he's out of disagreement with they think he's he's basically a president that does not go to Constitution the generals know the Constitution 1st you know from back in also to remember they've also sent him a message about a year ago saying that if he had been reasonable ordered they would not follow it that's good to hear. But that's a worry a little bit of the dog thing like this saying in Iran right now why are we sending carriers over to. The Mediterranean I mean it seems to me like he's trying to distract us and I worry about some might that. Well you know he might just try to distract us but it might be on your line a reason why they're going over there he just tried to put his name on every little movement that we knew behind the scenes to take care of you know issues that might rise but you know your followers around the country that call themselves Polish and then are. You know guy sort of the military showed up the all right. Question. I thank your service and I thank you for I coming out what the future will of what human beings look like.