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Coming up on Thursday pop calling the injury quote not good jabs continue steamroll through the postseason make it 6 straight victories following a 125103 win over the Raptors in game 2 Bron James with 39 points as Cleveland becomes the 2nd franchise to start 6 you know back to back post seasons baseball Orioles Red Sox coming off an objective for hitting Zander Bogart's with a curveball Adam Jones object in the 5th for our going balls and strikes as the Red Sox were in the wind for 2 airing George belting his 13th home run of the season Yankees improved to $123.00 at home with a victory over the Blue Jays battle 1st place team in the n.l. With the National stopping the Diamondbacks to one Ryan Zimmerman the go ahead r.b.i. Double for Washington Staley Come playoff Penguins Capitals game for Pittsburgh without Sidney Crosby if they get the big 332 up 31 in the series Dr No t.v. 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Radio from the game last night Cavaliers go out and win again in convincing fashion 125210311 of 3 excuse me in the 2nd round of the Eastern Conference playoffs over Toronto on their home court you heard there Le Bron James in the process passing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for the 2nd most points of postseason history all time now just 211 points behind Michael Jordan needed to pass him in what was another dominant performance from a Cavs team that we criticized a lot coming out of round one for. Winning yet another series sweep another round one sweep for the Bron James but not winning by nearly enough for the standards of most so how do the Cavs respond in tow well they decide that they'll go out and take the team in the Eastern Conference the most people thought had built their roster up to stop this Cavs team to stop this Le Bron James led team thought they might have the best chance of anyone to give them a run in the Eastern Conference and now they'll head back to the 6 they'll have a chance up there on their home court it is worth noting that last year Toronto lost the 1st 2 games of the series by 50 points and then won the next 2 after that but I wouldn't bet on it at this point now Series to some a lizard home Mike those are the facts Here's the facts they always stand for you it's one of those things they always say they always say it for a reason then they always say it for a reason because it's probably true now to run a loser's game 3 in 3 Out series over they're going to lose Game 3 to series over. It that doesn't even feel like a hot take I get feels like such a gimme at this point to bet on the Le Bron James led cabs the way they're starting to look in this playoffs here now because we just mentioned the big stack coming off of last night and you could you could pull off honestly a lot because Le Bron James is really just starting to absolutely green mushroom and one up everyone in these postseason record books last night he also became I think just the 2nd player since 1904 to score 39 points on fewer than 15 shots in the game last night he had 15 off free throws 15 in transition made for 3 days which interesting enough how about this for a stat because we don't often think about Le Bron James in this light Le Bron James is now the 4th player with 300 career post season 3 joins Ray Allen Reggie Miller and money. But one of these things is not like the other in that group. And yet vats the kind of rarefied air that Le Bron James as he continues to just stack up deep postseason runs is going to start to run into we know he's up to no top an assist is well and he's just going to to keep adding to the postseason records is another $134.00 points per game the 2nd most in a $60.00 start in postseason history just behind Kobe Bryant just ahead of Michael Jordan that's the best a good sandwich to be a good place to email then make that straight talk straight talk while it's best phones best networks have the cost rate talk wireless nationwide coverage on America's largest most dependable networks and the performance has been so good so otherworldly that to Marja Rosen's actually out here making offers you can't refuse if you can come over and stop the king sometimes and not bother buying the bros will we got a kick out of a go slow to let China progress I think it's 1.2 Cucolo they go by take a go who knows this will you find somebody who will stop Le Bron you know in these moments and you know I do think you have doubtless there would be so enough to be able to take out all of a key players and not let that get go and for us to you know take advantage of a $100.00 and now it seems seems awful low can sit and we've got a league full of guys the G.M.'s have been paying to try and stop Le Bron James but fetch a little higher price so if you're someone out there walking the street who thinks maybe I can cough Libro And James just know you know you could you can get a lot more than $100.00 for you call me I'll be your agent will make this happen and we'll both get a nice little payday but it directions absolutely right as far as what you need to do what it what a great thing for someone to say about you like I would obviously as a player never got to touch that group that warrior elite of guys you say yeah he's going to get his life we understand that you're not going to stop him from getting his. And to be honest I don't even know if I phoned that Channing Frye category was I going to worry about him going off or you know 20 points a game too it's like yeah we might be able to check this guy we might be all right let him just ride out he's going to self check a little bit which honestly you could have said that to an extent about the Raptors back court last night you're talking about toward the Rosen who was just nonexistent last night is the Cavaliers to some traps and ham allowed the Bron James to go back there and play center field in a way that really frustrated him last night just to leaven the shooting in 31 minutes for a whopping 5 points Kyle Lowry with him started off the game red hot was really keeping them in it in the beginning stretch this game he left in the middle of the 3rd quarter with a ankle injury will wait and see the severity of the apple limited him for the rest of that game and a tough moment tough moment for Toronto looking for any anything to really grasp at I mean if you want if you're Toronto and you're looking for things to build on going forward you've got some big time minutes from valance Yunus who came off the bench the other night as Toronto goes back to that line up where they put Serge Ibaka in that center role and try and get a little bit smaller create a little more matchup help for them and so balance units responding the way you'd want to guy to who's now relegated to coming off of the bench maybe you can take that home with you and look for something to build momentum on especially from your bench that will usually play better in those home situations that's if you're looking for any sort of silver lining Unfortunately those really are just going to be hard to come by at this point what Again you're dealing with just an otherworldly performance and now what's I think becoming the norm of this performance for a guy who's 32 years old on the Bron James is having I you know I heard Brian wooden horse on the way in here. Talking about one of the best postseason performances so far of his career and being able to do it at this age and seeing the performances that we've got of resonated with a lot of people including our own p.j. Carlesimo e.s.p.n. N.b.a. Analyst who I think is going to make some waves with this one place to get defensive I think because I knew Michael better because I coached against Michael I knew him for so long spent so much time with him and I said C'mon you can't compare it to look at the championships look at what he's done well guess what Le Bron is shutting me up because he's accumulating those things that what I thought was the difference with the Rings and the things that you know the consistency that Michael had done with Le Bron coming up he knew a good he was and he was saying he's been I say wait a minute he's got to do the same thing he's got to get those rings he's got to do he's got to sustain it for as long as Michael did while he's doing it and you know it's not an accident he's on that page you look at the page and it to hall of famers bracketing Le Bron in the middle he deserves to be on that page so if I'm hearing him right I think I am sounds like we get back into the greatest page in sports the proverb says Jordan thank you p.j. Carlesimo for the shout right there is that something we're getting increasingly more comfortable with though like you're hearing someone from that Michael Jordan peer group someone is p.j. Noted coached against Michael Jordan understands the greatness he brought to the table as well as anyone and is now starting to see the light with the Bron James that I feel like most people turned the page on after last year's title after the title they got back to Cleveland this all the sudden made a lot of the criticisms known void out to you guys 887293776 are you getting are you getting comfortable with this idea that we might actually be seeing that moment of change how many years do you think Le Bron has left playing at a high level making it to the playoffs and making the run I would probably say making deep runs. 4 years he's going to pass Jordan and playoff points all likely this year oh yeah and then put 4 more deep runs on top of it I mean he's going to bury Jordan that's the thing is the record books that he's going to rewrite especially postseason wife because we reconcile that Le Bron really doesn't care about the regular season all that much anymore but the postseason records that he's going to continue to just bury are going to put a ton of difference in that in that the time of year we're supposed to wait over everything else all we hear about is postseason success now I understand the hardware matters a lot and that puts some point looking back retrospectively like we will years down the road I think history is going to be awful kind of this guy just a hunch again 87293776 Le Bron starting to pass the goat we'll let you guys weigh in on that also coming up next one of the guys coaching the goat Tyrone Lou still thinks that he might have the hardest job in sports we'll get to that in just what he might mean coming up next year its 1st and last Michael Jr here on e.s.p.n. 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And radio in the e.s.p.n. Apple presented by Progressive Insurance Now you can save hundreds on your car business or recreational vehicle insurance from a local independent e.g. Go to progressive dot com today now that's progressive. Talk in the Bronx coming off another stellar performance last night $39.00 points for King James in a decided victory over the Toronto Raptors and our own p.j. Carlesimo sought fit to lob us up the softball of all softballs in the sports talk radio business Le Bron versus Jordan and so we figured we'd open up to you guys to go to Jack in St Louis Jack you're up here on 1st and last Michael do you know what's going on what's going on like I don't have. First of all. Everything you. Know work to Jordan you might 2 be well acted up. Like there's that chlorine teenager and shorten the teenager it up until you know the grown man. Is not even close why already all championships you can only change like titles that's about it but it's far same being the greatest he has some tax code the 1st. So that's I mean in the few. Who are the who are the few other guys I can understand a couple of the. Big shot by. Robert Horry Robin. Robin and immediate You are right well. We appreciate we appreciate the co-op I'm here to entertain a lot of things in this discussion here Robert or his name put a bubble of Bron James that's no disrespect to him is a laughable promise in this conversation and that's really I feel like you only place that. The real the people who want to hold out and die on the Hill for Michael Jordan are always going to be able to fall back on that ring conversation because when you've got comparable players it's another measurement tool but you can't use someone like Derek Fisher's got 5 rings but we're not going to put them in the same conversation those don't outweigh what Le Bron's brought you as a player but I feel like that conversation is kind of dismissive of the things that we're watching Le Bron James do especially by people that have seen him been able to compare both groups I mean you mentioned watching abroad as a teenager Dan we were talking about this before the show there are only a handful of athletes in all of sports like across any sport that had the burden of expectation from the time they were 1415 years old and gone out and delivered on it I mean that list is short few and far between when you talk about the Le Bron James the Wayne Gretzky's of the world you could start to argue for a couple young guys coming up in the n.h.l. Right now off in Austin Matthews economist David of these teenage feet that are brought in and said you are you are supposed to be the next big thing and early return for those guys say they deliver but Le Bron's done it over the course of over a decade of work now he ran up to it which is what is to me the worst argument against someone being the greatest which is he has lost championships should you be docked points for losing in the finals whereas Jordan lost in the 1st round in the Brawn I don't think ever has he been docked points for her making it farther every year but somehow that the knock against you I don't understand that argument but it because it's all they it's all that crowd has like you see that's the desperation it starts to fill in which is strange because again Michael Jordan doesn't really need to fencing but he's not a guy like his resume's always it's going to echo through eternity it's going to live on because he was that great. But the Jordan defenders get sensitive very quickly now in this case I understand because his name was actually invoked will find their way into conversations that really they have no place in but it is one of those things that they're they're looking for any flaw in the resume because when you actually look at it like people of maybe best resume he can have that conversation but as an actual basketball player I don't know how we're still knocking this guy's game considering all the different facets that he's shown us right now and so you get a lot you get a lot of that that comes up you get a lot of the defense of Michael Jordan you get a lot of the talk about these great players you don't often hear the conversation from the coaches usually we hear a lot of these great players of Proctor great coach up we don't usually hear the other side where the coach talks about the difficulties of having to coach one of these all time great players and what that brings but that's exactly what Le Bron James coach Tyler who talked about when he was on the e.s.p.n. N.b.a. And walk down podcast just a hard job before. It's a hard job but you know I'm I've been to a lot of things my life anyway and I just tried not to listen to the outside noise you know to the media and what they have to say you know loans I have the support of you know David Grisman you know Dan Gilbert my players the city of Cleveland you know the state of Ohio along I have the support that's out of matters and you know understand that you know it was a while the players cry about 70 years ago I'm trying to talk every report affects our marriage you know that now come to realization that you know it's not worth it and. People can say what he has to say and you know they got to sell books and I got to tell stories they got to you know they have to do that's a job but I just I don't like it when it they make stuff up or they live make stuff up if I didn't do a good job or I didn't do something then I understand that's your job you got to write about what you make stuff up that's the part that I don't get and you know kind of makes me mad but that's Ok so. Couple things it's not going to be well received. When you are seemingly saying that because you've got to you've got the best tools on the planet as a coach as far as going out winning that somehow that makes it the most difficult job but I kind of understand the sentiment because listen we've seen plenty of coaches come and go with Le Bron James if anything coaching look at someone like Le Bron James and useless you've got 2 other All-Stars on that roster as well so you've got plenty to work with but with a guy that we're grading on such a high curve in Le Bron James where making it to as many finals as he has in suspension where all those deep postseason runs can be twisted is a negative you understand that there's a little bit different set of circumstances that all this gets judged by and that works the same for you let's go to the real Jay the real Jay you're on 1st and last going on yeah. You know I went to George Pham of life like I have to show that posers I want to. Try to have a game like I don't play about. You know being in the right to do it now even if you take office away from him he still dominates the game every level or is even beyond a teammate and then the thing that you do it is like well he lost the finals with the way way in 2011 and they came in the next year said it was the brightest thing he'd let raise the level of it came every year because of the myth that maybe like they like the $21213.00 Jane what they love to start out like one and all the time they had a roster that they could win but the thing about it though 'd and yet like no i overachieving overachieving man he was labeled the king coming out of high school Yeah well I don't know if it's over achieving but it's living up to the otherworld stand otherworldly standard that we put for him and not only that usually these guys get great because even with that standard what they expect of themselves is still greater and that's the amazing part of all this will keep this debate going 187293776 it's 1st last it's been radio. 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I'm John Burke with your more games on the n.b.a. Postseason schedule starting with Game 2 between the. Rockets on the spurs of San Antonio but even up the series at a game apiece Tony Parker left the game in the 4th quarter suffering a left leg injury will have an m.r.i. On Thursday quite a letter though picked up the slack 34 points get the win 412196 As for James Harden shot 80 percent from the floor the worst in his playoff career the Cavs are making the rest of the Eastern Conference look foolish in this postseason just ask the Raptors are solid Bron James do this in game 2. As it. Was. Done on this one for the. Families For John Kelly on e.s.p.n. Radio's Le Bron with 39 past Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for the 2nd most points in postseason history Cavs take it 2 games to none lead with 812-5103 win baseball the Red Sox and Orioles back at it at Fenway Park Adam Jones objected in the 5th for arguing balls and strikes the Red Sox a pick up the win for 2 Yankees Blue Jays Aaron judge a 2 run shot in the 3rd That's number 13 on the season for him of the bombers won that game 86 Nationals 21 of the Diamondbacks on Battle of 1st place team Stanley Cup playoffs Penguins Capitals game 4 Pittsburgh without Sidney Crosby due to a concussion to pick up a win 3231 in that series Doc stop the Oilers in o.t. Even up that series at 2 games apiece finally has a better way to buy travel it's upside down come now you can save a ton of money and get an Amazon gift card with hundreds of dollars Free same big gun travel and get a big gift card every trip I've sung done come. First and last. Michael Jr here on e.s.p.n. Radio in the u.s. Pm after we're presented by Progress mature and all callers join us by the shell Pennzoil performance line that's 887293776 you also tweet us in the 1800 Flowers dot com Twitter feed at e.s.p.n. Radio at am gold Jr 57 p.j. Carlesimo has done done it again he sent us a plays down the path of no return a path that we know all too well you can understand it coming off last night's game again last night the n.b.a. The Cavaliers beat the Toronto Raptors 125103 to San Antonio Spurs even series 12196 against Houston but that's not story coming off of last night Le Bron James passes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for number 2 in the all time playoff scoring list and calamity ensues this p.j. Colosimo decides to light the powder keg that is the Bron James Michael Jordan debate to get defensive I think because I knew Michael better because I coached against Michael I knew him for so long spent so much time with him and I said C'mon you can't compared it to look at the championships look at what he's done well guess what Le Bron is shutting me up because he's accumulating those things that what I thought was the difference with the Rings and the things that you know the consistency that Michael had done with Le Bron coming up he knew a good he was and they were saying he's been I say wait a minute he's got to do the same thing he's got to get those rings he's got to do he's got to sustain it for as long as Michael did well he's doing it and you know it's not an accident he's on that page we look at the page and it to hall of famers bracketing Le Bron in the middle he deserves to be on that page. Deserves to be on that same page in most people's eyes rightly so let's go to j b t j b t you're on 1st and last Michael if you know what's going on sir so earlier urge to Smalling played tomorrow isn't offering a $100.00 anybody can stop look wrong right yes yes well Michael Jordan pays people like all the Charlotte Hornets millions of dollars to try to stop on a Michael Jordan can't do it so he can't stop Oprah right now why do you think you could stop Abrahm when they were planned when he was planned that's why liberal on is better the very one thing up and listen to very well take from j.v. T. We appreciate the call of Michael can't do it as an owner when we really expect he can do it as a player I mean listen John Lynch showed us anything this weekend is that this last weekend of the draft it said being a g.m. Being in the front office a lot easier being a player just look how easy it was for him in the 1st round of the draft up there so I can't wait to see what Le Bron does in the front bet is that's it that's the other thing a guy with his basketball i.q. Would Ackman now does he do that knowing full because he's also a guy that's pretty dialed into his kids' lives and depending on when he decides to hang it up it could time up with them starting to round into below their high school careers and stuff like that he'll be a guy that can obviously afford to not take that job after sports I think spoiler alert he's going to be Ok But you're right everyone's going to look at his basketball mind I mean we've already got another story coming out of the n.b.a. Of Kobe Bryant sending Isaiah Thomas some tips and watching his game film during this playoff run to kind of help him out and I said Thomas talking about what he gifted basketball mind Kobe Bryant has That's another thing that comes up in the broad to beat is what a basketball genius he is and we already think he runs the Cavs anyway front office wise so if you actually put the title to be an interesting thought so then what if Le Bron gets so tired of the Jordan debate towards the end of his career he's like you know what. I am going to I'm going to play out the rest of my career as the g.m. And play that'll shut you guys up a bit said of the player coach the player after player g.m. Just take Jackie Moon and then go one step further if he actually formed the expansion Slint tropics and then was a player g.m. On that team then he's better than Jordan then and only then let's go to Greg in Texas Greg you're on 1st and last going on. Long while Man Yeah I got to disagree with Hi Lou because the reason why because even the years upon didn't when chapter shows with good rosters nobody ever put the blame on the coaches and I look at times lose situation not just what Le Bron He has a complete roster with multiple All Stars Jr the 6 man of the year multiple time winner you insert any other coach and n.b.a. So that team may still guarantee to win 5050 wins and the east and it doesn't matter what state I get obviously and your 2nd still go to the finals I just don't know just a lot don't know why you really want there like an old comet. Yeah well I don't know I appreciate the call and I understand why he went there because there are additional different stressors that come with it and also this kind of the world Tyler was used to as far as dealing with stars and doing these jobs I mean you look at where he was an assistant He's with the you know the Celtics and clippers with Doc Rivers and then was the assistant head coach in Cleveland when the Bron came back in 2014 so he's always been around this but Le Bron James is the umpteenth version of everything he's dealt with and his only experience is a head coach so he kind of doesn't know what he doesn't know because we all seen what the differences can be being an assistant coach that getting to have that more personal relationship with a lot of the players getting to be the sort of good cop to the bad cop that was David Platt that ultimately ended up getting him shown the door because he didn't vibe with the players that it's clear Tyler who has I mean I saw another article today a q. And a with Ty Lou talking about how he tries to push the right buttons with these guys and head coach he can be managing personalities but we mentioned a lot of the other all time great coaches in this conversation the Phil Jackson's of the world that. Made their living sort of the same debate we have in the n.f.l. With Brady and Bella check which is which makes the other more is at the players' side that makes the coaching side more or do these coaches beget some of these great players with their total edge and we don't have that with will probably because he's had so many different head coaches but for Ty Lewis the become for me I'm the guy to be and should hear from will be Erik Spoelstra because he's been he's seen how the other half lives in multiple regards he was the head coach in Miami for 2 years before Le Bron got there were he had the one superstar Dwayne Wade He then went through the big 3 era where a lot of people saw him as just a puppet for Pat Riley after he had stepped away a guy that was easy to control the strings for and the now is lived in a world post Big 3 post even to Wayne Wade were Dion Waiters has been their best player down there and has managed managed to go out have the season they had their making chicken salad out of chicken you know what with that group at times so I'd be interested for that perspective of a guy who has seen quite literally the stark drop off from having that group of players that create the expectation that you have with Le Bron James and company does the Phil Jackson nix debacle hurt Tyler's argument. In what way if the idea that Phil Jackson now going after the idea in being that Phil Jackson now maybe looks like he wasn't quite the basketball mind that he might have been in the us it was really the players now I know because I still can't like I won't ever use Phil's front office failures as an indictment on coaching just because the 2 are different like it's one thing to be able to take talent shape and push all those buttons the way tie lose talking about here as opposed to identifying the town free agents from the outside identifying guys in the draft being able to manage the salaries and all the things that go with being a g.m. That are so wildly different from being a great coach So that's the one thing with Phil we have plenty of fun at his expense and rightly so because he's been a raging disaster in the front office but it still doesn't really take away from the coach as much let's go to Connecticut not your own 1st last go out. And I don't. Want to talk about. Michael Jordan. Jordan like. Ok. Watson Jordan or watts or kid. I watched a school yeah you know when Jordan was 1st coming in here we scored all the points everybody had to talk about how Jordan didn't have a defense. Without change a game to defenders of the year. As you got older we watched the body break down Jordan went from being you know Air Jordan. Not the turnaround. Muslim guy who you know we watched like I said changes the game. To. So now so now we need to see the decline so that we can talk about this we've moved past well he's not good enough in his prime now we need to see him work on the skill sets diminished and you saw it kind of show up a little bit there but Mr Algis always going to play a part in the Jordan debate and there is something about the narrative about the guy that got cut from his high school basketball team in the guy that did go on playing college forgetting all along the way that means that you know he wasn't ready to play in the n.b.a. As young as Le Bron James was how many of the Jordan calls start with I watched Michael growing up that's the be all end all for a lot of these guys there's nothing Lebron could ever do that will take away from I watched Jordan growing up yeah and there might be something to it being when you were a kid too because you heard I mean the reason we're talking about this because p.j. Carlesimo guy who talked about coaching against Michael Jordan and being in that peer group is might be able to parse through this with a little bit more clarity because you're not you don't have those childhood memories attached to watching a guy that feels like yours then you talked about this the other day but so much of fandom feels like ownership of these moments so I said selfishly I've always rooted for Le Bron James to do well because I want to be able to in the future say look at the guy I got to watch in his prime look at the guy I got to watch in his heyday breaking all these records the way that we've seen it we're going to get back to more of this debate is why not it's fun it's timeless and gosh darn it people like it but we've got a major league saga playing out Major League Baseball to add another thrilling chapter to it last night we'll get to that coming up next here its 1st and last Michael Jr here on e.s.p.n. Radio in the e.s.p.n. 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And radio presented by Progressive Insurance creators the name your price tool choose from a range of coverage options and pick the price that works for you we're back here on 1st and last Michael Jr The latest installment of the O's Red Sox beef this is the level it's gotten with these games I really through the rest of the last 2 games that we've seen all the fireworks and could tell you who won last night was the 1st time I actually heard a score assigned to this Red Sox 142 by the way and what seems so secondary in the Dr Who bucket 162 game season to the drama that we've got here which kind of makes me wonder Is baseball taking itself now little more seriously as an entertainment product you hear all the talk about how they can bring fans speeding up the game all the stuff I just look at what the n.b.a. And the n.f.l. Done in certain times. Of creating entertainment that transcends the game and that's what we've had in this series so to catch everyone up we obviously have the Adam Jones situation it was a lot separate from this to begin in Fenway a couple of nights ago the ugliness that went on there that spawned a whole separate discussion but outside of that we had to continue dustups between many Machado and the Red Sox going back to his slide into 2nd on April 21st that preceded a lot of this with a through high of many Machado a while back there were suspensions handed out and then in this latest series we had the at 4 mentioned throwing from Chris Sale who lest we not forget is a jersey slicing name e.x.o. Should be too surprising but Chris Sale throwing behind many Machado and everything that ensued there and so in between that game and the game last night we had Major League Baseball actually step in and call both of these teams and sorry guys we got to cut this out. We had to handle the situation so that basically what if in a lot of people's minds acted as the warning so going into last night's game there was no preemptive warning handed out to both teams before this and so what we had occur was a pitch from Kevin cosmonaut. Everyone looking at this from a common sense place and this sort of leads it to a funny place in this conversation everyone sees a 77 mile an hour curve ball I think up until this this point of the year is the slowest pitch that Kevin Gaza thrown all year on a 77 mile an hour breaking ball that just didn't break and ends up striking the player ends up Xander Bogart's and getting government immediately tossed from the game this is the statement from the home plate umpire last night because this is the other missing piece of it so we've had all this drama we've had all of the storylines coming from the series the one thing we've been missing is on fire talk because that's the other portion of all is this we bring up is everyone what's the things everyone goes down goes to a baseball when they're trying to fix a pace of play baseball is too slow baseball is not fun enough there's no backflips there's no all these things you've got to stop plonking guys you've got to stop They've got to stop the bean ball that goes on but the other thing is umpires we love talking about umpires injecting themselves into the situation so this really rounds out a very complete weekend of baseball or complete week I should say of baseball stories in this game and what most people will tell you is that last night Sam Holbrook lost control by trying to control too much and here was the statement from the home plate umpire Sam Holbrook last night quote just given the situation in the tension between the 2 clubs and all the stuff that's gone on over the past few weeks we're all on high alert with anything Holbrooke said I know the ball was a curveball but it hit him square in the back just making a split decision at that point there there needs to be an end to this stuff and I feel like the ejection was the right thing to do at the time and that's what we did thankfully we didn't have any more problems for the rest of the game. Even though that was in the last objection. Because later on in that game you had the the Adam Jones objection for essentially walking away from the play and you could argue showing up the umpire a bit it was a fist pump going back towards his locker room in defiance after a call at the plate there so tired of the phrase showing up the umpire Oh I want it all up it's not about you so I'm with you in the general argument of things but we also do like that part of that statement there was a very human element to this and that's what you've got when you have to continue to have human officials is so often we understand because the reason I'll never feel a great deal of sympathy for officials umpires accent or a is because a lot of times I feel like they skate blame for being just as much a part of the game like we always hear there are 3rd of the game like everyone else you've got 2 teams and then you've got that 3rd team we're in black and white stripes on the field but a lot of times we let them skate responsibilities in a way we don't let players skate that's why I don't have a problem with 2 minute reports in the n.b.a. Or the fishes getting taken to task in the n.f.l. For certain things the problem in baseball is that you can't the only punishment an umpire can deliver strong someone out of a game in basketball a guy argues too much you team up in football you throw 15 a 15 yard penalty in baseball you really only have one recourse which is to throw the guy out of the game you can't give the team it out or a strike there's really no other punishment than an umpire can levy for arguing too much or showing them up since no maybe that's what we need like maybe there needs to be some middle ground like a base runner if you're arguing as a pitcher they get to just have an extra base runner Yeah because it out if you're on your own often because you're right it feels like this is something with too much effect on the game like we're It can be any little slight and in the name of like he said controlling what's going on in the field because the series had sort of spiraled out of control which again you could make the organs not necessarily a bad thing we're talking about it. Now could be the argument you're talking about of the way we're talking about the Knicks earlier this basketball season that's always a good thing but it's an entertainment product and you've gotten some of that so far so very interesting looking at what's gone on there we know now we'll get a break from this been a series here but something keep your eye on going forward in the baseball season something keep your eye on around here is a little something we do all the time on the show to help out our n.h.l. Brethren and sisters we're enjoying the playoffs so without further ado as we do around here this one's for you. This one's for you lucky guy well I. Think. Those are. The only thing I can. Think. Of just for Larson turned over that's right they strung out that stuff was shot I just can't see. Those calls courtesy of 159 The x. And k l a. Last night you heard so ver the o.t. Winner as the ducks even the series with the Oilers 22 and on the other side the series that we've all been looking at most closely because it's got the stars was without one of its stars no Sidney Crosby still dealing with the lingering effects of that vicious shot to the head from the other night but no Crosby no problem Pittsburgh dispatches Washington 32 now takes a 31 lead in the series and. Well the caps might have to already start on the next year is our year bandwagon it seems to be an every year refrain for them we've gone on long enough we'll get back to Le Bron Jordan coming up next for you guys and another significant playoff moment coming in the form of an injury in a game last night was playing next That's 1st last on e.s.p.n. Radio and the e.s.p.n. 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It might be we felt like you know you might Clinton in free agency and you know taking it in the draft that we put ourselves in a really good position to be successful deposition cares yammering Pace joining us Cabot not his by the way you keep calling him it should some point this process we were told to call him it took him to clarify this because we're going to have to call him something going forward you fool or whatever you want to go it's one of the things I like about that we just saw all the way back plus a bottom line is he's going to get a really nice contract All right you can call him whatever you want stars like it might change your mind tributes he is a franchise quarterback that can lead this organization for the next decade to half staff smoothly we had conviction on the player it works out to do it's nice to look over the depth of right now on my wall here and see all those quarterbacks there I just feel so good about it because you know you guys know your team goes your quarterback put you in the seat in the sea that you know in a deposition that just gives you a lot of excitement and a lot of hope going forward like it might on e.s.p.n. 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Mike what you got to know what's your favorite moment from the 6 so far and I have to go with this one I'm going to bear sue and you know sit with someone to play what you want to go all the way to look I love that but I got a game of go to this right here is believe me if you're the type of person and this is it out you better be the type of person that can take it what about this one so when you remove all of that you know what this is about it's about Le Bron but about a day for us about the right way and what's your fate as she sits moment so far one to Michael in Jamelle weeknights at 6 pm Eastern on e.s.p.n. My getting my I'm talking with players and they were like if I was playing I didn't know what I would do I could get what people have been trying to figure out ways to stop him all year long and I listen to down that they get the post as a team that 30 fences they don't blow it down what do you not happening like in my life I want to hear the whole interview get the podcast on demand now on the e.s.p.n. At. The s.p.n. Bakersfield k g e o o 12 30 am 981 f.m. Going to get one by Bakersfield covering sports for the entire southern San Joaquin Valley.