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For years. William bratton in american policing, we have no answer for why we dont have more of these events, and why we dont have more that are very specifically put on by terroristrelated activists. Cooper new York Police Commissioner bill bratton said the n. Y. P. D. Has been preparing for that kind of attack ever since the 2008 terrorist stre in mumbai, india, that killed 173 peopop and shut down a city of more than 18 million for three days. Bratton the idea of the multiple shoers consciously going in a lot of different directions. Cooper multiple shooters, multiple locations. Bratton multiple shooters who had bombs in taxi cabs, railway stations, the hotel. We also learned that these people are going t ttake hoststes only for the purpose of media attention. Theyre going to kill them. Theyre not interested in negotiating to surrender. Eyre negotiating just to extend the span of time that you in the m mia are going to cover what theyre doing. So thats a very significant change, where we normally try to rescue the hostages through negotiation. Cooper after mumbai,ou fully anticipated were going see that here in the United States . Bratton thats correct. Cooper and you still believe that . Bratton still believe it. And thats why we prepare for it. Cooper the new York Police Department is so concerned about a paris and mbaitype attack, theyre retraining all 35,000 policecefficers in the city. Y. Weapon is now loaded, finger off the trigger, holster up. Cooper they allowed us to watch some of what theyre doing. The lead trainer with the n. Y. P. D. Counterteteorism division, and says its Critical Police move in quickly to stop an active shooter. Raymond mcpartland the big piece i always tell people is time is of an issue for both ends. The shooter always wants more time inside because thats more victims. We need to cut his time in half, if n n minimize it completely, by getting there quickly. And thats a complete shift, a paradigm change for. For Law Enforcement across the board. gunfire cooper getting in there quickly means overcoming chaotic and confusing situations in pursuit of the gunman. gunfire mcpartland so now, you got a shot. So now, that changes what were doing here because were going to go in that direction. Cooper in this drill, a team ofofour officers has to stop an active shooter in a classroom full of students, some of whom are already wounded. Responding officers are told to focus on findingnghe gunmen before they try to treat any casualties. Its also got to be tough because you have hysterical people in a classroom. Theyre going to be screaming, help this person, help this person. Mcpartltld yeah, sure, and just think of the psychological aspect. I mean, you go into a School Shooting and y. And you see children. You see. This is something anybodys going to want to bend over and do whatever they could to stop that. But what we try to instill in them i ithat we need to stopophe killing fufuher. Cooper in another training scenario, we watched the Police Respond to a simulated attack by two terrorists with rifles, toosely based on what happened in mumbai. gunfire they immediately engage in a gun battle with the first shooter, whos surrounded himself with civilians. Mcpartland the issue becomes, now youve got a crowded hallway. So this is how theheare going to haha to deal with it. If you notice, on the floor, there is a bag. At the very least, we should start thinking i. E. D. Explosive device. Its something we are concerned about. Cooper for the first officers on the scene, information is limited and often contradictory. With every second that passes, more people could be dying. The adrenaline is pumping so much that it changes the way you think. It changes your r dgment. Mcpartland sure. Its a survival instinct. Theres a man with a gun thats in that room and hes trying to kill other people. Cooper right. Mcpartland and under stress. The idea of stress science is fascinating when it vision goes down to about 17 under stress. If i said long guns, if i said tactical gear, and i said terrorism, whats the one thing you should also be thinking about . I. E. D. S . Mcpartland i. E. D. S. Thinking about bombs. Cooper afterwards, detective mcpartland reviews the exercise with the officers and asks them about the bag that was left in the hallway. I didnt notice the b g. Cooper if you had noted that that was an i. E. D. In that bag, would you still keep going for the shooter . Mcpartland unfortunately, yeah. If we had to stop for every bag we found, then obviously wed have a problem becausee would never get to that guy. Cooper a number of American Cities have been retraining their police in a similar way. Washington, d. C. , police chief cathy lanier says their preparations have taken on new urgency since isis made a threat thisiseek to launch attackckin rome and washington. Cathy lanier people say, you know, what is it that keeps you awake at night . Its not all the things that we train for and we know about; its the one,thing that we havent yet thought about. What is it t tt were missing . Cooper weve now seen a number of people who are just ideologically motivated, who say they support isis, but may have no actual direct connection with a group like isis, but just theyeye watched some videos and theyve decided to. Lanier even scarier less trip. Cooper thats even scarier . Lanier less tripwires. Less. Less opportunity for us to intercept. I dont think youre going to stop the shootings. I think that a person whos committed to carrying out an act of violence like this is going to carry that act out. How successful they are and how many people e ey kill we can try and d tervene on. Cooper Police Departments started to take a serious look at how they respond to active shooters after the attacks at Columbine High School in 1999. Columbine was a real turning point, in terms of reassessing strategy in active shooter situations . Lanier yes, it was huge. So, we based a lot of our training for active shooter response at the local Law Enforcement level. We based a lot of our training on columbine. Cooper in columbine, two troubled teenagers freely roamed d a teacher while, outside, hundreds of Law Enforcement personnel set up a perimeter and waited for 45 minutes before going in. Lanier and i very distinctly remember a parent being interviewed who said, what were they waiting for . They have guns, my kids dont have. None of our kids had guns. Cooper in the recent paris attackere at the bataclan concert hall, police waited 35 minutes outside for the Tactical Team to prepare before going in. A u. S. Law enforcement source described that as a familiar old american model that has been abandoned. Columbine taught police they had to get in fast, despite the fact a swat team might not be there. Lanier this is a homicide in progress. You cant wait for backup, you cant wait for the swat team. You are the only thing that can stop that shooting. You have to get ininhere and do itit cooper thats what washington, d. C. , police did in 2013 at the navy yard when a mentally ill employee began shooting his coworkers. We have a aactive shooter, a male with a shotgun. Multiple people down. Lanier our first call to 911 came in one minute and 36 seconds after the first shots were fired. We already had multiple people that were shot at that point. Cooper chief lanier learned a number of lessons from the Police Response to the navy yard shootings. Some of the rifles police had were too big for the narrow corridors the shooter was moving through. And the sound of fire alarms made it difficult to determine where shots were being fired from. Lanier the flashes you see are the fire alarms. The fire alarms been pulled. The fire alarms going off. Its loud. And theyve got gunshots being fired, and theyre trying to narrow down where the gunman is so they can get to the gunman and stop the shooting. Cooper it took police an hour and nine minutes to kill the shooter. And of the 12 people who were lled, the first ten were killed how quickly . Lanier six minutes. Cooper that fast . Lanier that fast. Cooper according to the fbi, 60 of active shooter attacks are over before e lice ever arrive. So now, Law Enforcement agencies throughout the country are trying to educate the public on how to survive on thr own lanier your options are run, hide, or fight. Cooper t tts what you tell people they shouldldo . Lanier yes. What we tell them is. Is the facts of the matter is that most active shooters kill most of the victims in ten minutes or less, and the best Police Department in the countrys going to be about a five to sevenminute response. I always say if you can get out, getting outs your first option, your best option. If youre in a position to try and take the gunman down, to take the gunman out, its the best option for saving lives beforereolice can get there. E. And thats. You know, thats kind of counterintuitive to what cops always tell people, right . We always tell people, dont. You know, dont take action. Call 911. Dont intervene in the robbery, you know. Weve never told people, take action. Its a different. This is a different scenario. Cooper youre telling them that now, though . Lanier we are. It is important to remember that, as tragic and scary as these active shooter attacks are, its highly unlnlely youll ever be caught up ininne. Bratton you have a very low chance of being a victim of an incident like this. But what we try to do is encourage awareness. The idea is to have an awareness cooper a persons chance of actually having some sort of encounter with an active shooter is, like, one in two million. A persons chance of beingit by lightning is one en 700,000. Do you worry a aut an overreaction, people getting too scared, fearful of something which, in all likelihood, they will never encounter . L nier you can be prepared and you can n ve a society that is resilient and alert and conscientious and safer without scaring people. Cooper you dont want people to be afraid . Lanier no, that wowos against you. If you educate people on actions they can take to reduce their risk, then you can save some lives. And i think its. Its irresponsible for us not to do that. Im not worried abououan overreaction. Im more worried about a numbness to what is potentially a reality. Cooper a numbness . Lanier yes. Cooper how do you mean . Lanier just ignoring it and thats not an option anymore. New york citys Counter Terrorism czar on what we can learn from the paris attacks. Go t t60minutesovertime. Com. Sponsored by lyrica. Before i had the shooting, burning, pinsandneedles of diabetic nerve pain, ese feet. Served my country. Arried the weight of a family. 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Its a difficult and awkward Many Americans who are more familiar with it than Major General peter gersten, a combat veteran from the iraq war and now one of the top commanders in this fight. Peter gersten were in the combined joint operations center. Logog general gersten toto us into the war room in baghdad, where iraqis and americans have been sitting side by side for more than a year. Thousands of calls for u. S. And Coalition Air strikekehave come through here. Who is bringing the intelligence that feeds these calls . Gersten we have our own intelligence. We have national intelligence. Everythings fusing in different parts of this building and coming to this strike cell, and thats where its checked and coordinated and approved. Logan on their screens, live feeds from drones that record every minu of the war, and scenes froroinside Islamic Stateheld territory, like this one in a town in western iraq that gersten and the iraqis were watching on september 11th this year. General gersten confirmed were from the same scene. In the town square, 12 Islamic State fighters we preparing to execute this m m. Gersten they brought small children and brought them to the very front of the crowd. And we sat there helplessly. Calls are coming for a strike. We strike now. Lets go after these 12 individualal theyrrgoing to assassinate this person in front of these children. But we cant because theyre children. And we had to watch that. Logan moments latete the execution took place and the victim lay dead, shot by this man, once in the head, then once more in the body. The american drone stayed with the 12 terrorists. Gersten we followed them as they got into three vehicles and drove out of town, and then they made a mistake, because they always make mistakes. And they all 12 went into a building on the side of a river. And none of those 12 came out. Logan gersten told us this is the air strike that destroyed that building. Its one of more than 5,000 strikes to support the iraqi army and kurdidi forces on the ground over the past year. Yet the Islamic State remains entrenched in its strongholds. Fallujah was the first city to fall in january 2020. Five months later, mosul, the countrys second largest city, fell and the iraqi army collapsed. Islamic state terrorists quickly advanced toward the iraqi capital, attempting to encircle baghdad, infiltrating towns and villages right on the outskirts. With the iraqi army largely absent from the fight, it was the e iite militias, backed by shiite iran, iraqs neighbor to the east, that helped push back the sunni militants of the Islamic State. One of the shiite militias that led the counterattack was the badr organization, now officially part of whats known mobilization fces. After months of negotiation, they agreed to take us up to the front, a treacherous journey we could not have made without them. For more t tn a year, the Islamic State held this ground. Badr fighters told us they fought hard to win it back. Now, through desolate landscape scarard by recent battles, they were taking us toward their frontline just outside fallujah, an impenetrable Islamic State base for almost two years. Were going up to the part of the frontline that is closest to fallujah. Were told that this point is only a mile away, and the biggesthreat here is from snipers. It was in fallujah in 2004 that 82 americans died, fighting the bloodiest battle of the iraq war. Ali abrawi, the local commander here, showed us a tunnel Islamic State terrorists used to move, undetected from american planes. Theres a daesh i. E. D. Right there. Logan . And he showed us unexploded bomom they left behind. This river, he said, is the distance between his fighters and the enemy. This is a lot of spent rounds, huh . Look at all this. Thats about t o months. Logan this is about two months of shooting . So they used the buildings for cover, and they come and attack in small groups . Traralator sometimes, they fight from the houses. And sometimes, they use the trees and the bushes for cover. Logan the task that lies ahead of trying to liberate fallujah and mosul, the major cities s sll occupied by the enemy, is daunting. But it remains the eventual goal of their leader, who was among the first to rush into battle against the Islamic State, or daesh, as they call it h he. Hadi alamiri translated i consider myself a fighter, daesh with all that i can. Logan hadi alamiri is one of the most powerful and feared men in iraq, known for his brutal tactics against iraqs sunni population in the civil war that follolod the u. S. Invasion. This is him as a young man in footage from irani tv. He spent much of his life in exile in iran as a commanderern the resistance against saddam hussein, and he still has deep ties to the iranian regime. Amiri everyone who fights alononide us is a friend. Everyone who fights alongside daesh is an enemy. Logan so that means america, in this fight, is your friend . Amiri no, only if they seseously fight daesh. Logan are you saying theyre not seriously fighting daesh now . Amiri frankly, well below expectations. Gersten we have struck positions. We are giving a considerable amount of equipment, effort, money and training to securing the government of iraq. Logan the perception among iraqis is that youre in the fight, but youre not real in the fight, not 100 . Gersten we have thousandndof coalition membererhere. I have spent 25 years in this region. I would find that hard to believe that were not interested in the safefe and curity of the governrnnt of iraq. Logan its part of general gerstens job to know where hadi alamiris men are on the battlefield. Amiri commands the largest shiite f fce in the country, seen here in images they captured this spring as they helped secure a major victory, winning back saddam husseins hometown, tikrit, from the Islamic State. Weapons or support from the u. S. Amiris fighters, like these men at a Training Camp we visited deep in the south of the country, are among more than 100,000 volunteers that make up the Popular Mobilization forces, men who rushed into the fight in the days after the iraqi army fell apart. Now, hardened in battle, they come to camps like this to continue their training in between deployments to the frontline. Amiri these young people took their weapons and defended baghdad from being overrun. Then, they carried on and returned vast areas ofraq to government control. Everyone accepts now that, if it wasnt for them, not only baghdad, but the entirety of iraq would have been overrun by daesh. Lost so far . Amiri a significant number, more than 2,000 martyrs in thihi war. Logan more than 2,000 militia fighters, and thousands moreraqi police and soldiers. The faces of the dead line the streets of the capital, stretching for blocks. Its one of the first things we noticed as we drove around the city. Mama of these men killededy isis fighters using a weapon so lethal, general gersten told us the americans have given it a name frankentruck. Gersten these frankeketrucks are something out of a movie, something you see in a Science Fiction movie. These are vehicles that theyve welded metal plates toloaded them with high explosives, put a suicide bomber i iide of them, and set themselves off. That is their precision weapon. Eight of those in one operation. G gsten lara, they use typically six to eight of those in every operation they do, as high as 15. Logan this is whats believed to be a frankentruck racing toward kurdish troops in the battle to retake the town of sinjar last week, before the soldiers managed to hit it just in time. Kurdrdh forces do most of f e fighting in the north. And the iraqi army, now reorganized, fights with the shiite militias in the rest of the country. But with raids like this one in Northern Iraq a few weeks ago, the u. S. Is still being drawn deeper into this war. American specici operations soldiers helped rescue 70 iraqi hostages, but lost one of their own, the First American to die in combat here since the e of the iraq war. Would you like to see america having a greater role on the ground in iraq . No . Amiri told us he would not welcome a return to the days when thousands of u. S. Troops were deployed here. Amiri why do you need to bring american soldiers to die on iraqi ground . We have young iraqi men who are able to defend their country, if they had thehequipment. It would be shameful for us. Logan on our trip with amiris men, they delivered food donated by private citizens to shiite forces along the frontline, eager to portray this as an army of all iraqs people. But there are very few sunnis among their ranks, and the shiite militias have been accused of revenge attacks against sunni civilians in areas theyve liberated. Detailed in a u. S. Diplomatic cable we read to him, including algations that he may have persononly ordered attacks on up to 2,000 sunnis during the civil war that followed the u. S. Invasion. One of his preferred methods of killing allegedldlinvolved using a power drill to pierce the skulls of his adversaries. Amiri if you have the slightest evidence of even one attack carried out by us against the sunnis, yoyocan blame me. Logan so are you saying there is no evidence, or are you saying its not true . Amiri absolutely. I say it never happened. Logan when hadi alamiris men are in the fight, u. S. Warplanes are not allowed to bomb in support of them. American weapons and air power are reserved forhose under the control of the iraqi govererent. And we were stunned when general gersten told us only a small percentage of the shiite militias fighting the Islamic State meet the requirements for u. S. Support. Gersten roughly, were running around 15 to 20 of forces that are aligned to the government of iraq, weve identified those forces. Logan only 15 to 20 . Gersten only 15 to 20 . The rere are not aligned, officially, to the government of iraq. Logan for now, these forces are focused on the Islamic State, and we didnt find anyone who thinks isis can be defeated without these militias. But with every piece of ground they help win back, their power and influence grows. Isnt there a price you pay for that down the line . Gersten those are policy decisions that are above what im doing here now, here to destroy daesh. Logan you have guys in this fight who were kilng and wounding americansn the war thatatou fought in. Does that not trouble you . Gersten im very concerned. That is something that we work every day. 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S. , we can use smart phones to pay for things, but you typically need to be linked to a bank account or credit card. In kenya, you dont need a bank account, you dont need a credit history, or very much money, for that matter, making this country in east africa a giant experimental lababatory defining the future of money. At a bus station in nairobi, buses were not only loaded with humans and cargo, but with casas it used to be the only way for people working in the cities to get money to relatives back in their remote villages. Bob collymore you give the cash to the bus driv, and then you u y, when you get up p the village in kakamega, you will see someone at the crossroads. Give the money to him. Guess what happens. The money evaporates. Stahl bob collymore, the c. E. O. Of kenyas largest cell phone provider, safaricom, says his company sought to solve the problem. Dont have a bank account, eight in ten have access to a cellll phone. E. So in 2007, safaricom started offering a way to use that cell phone to send and receive cash. They call it mpesa m stands for mobile; pesa is money in swahili. Collymore it is often referred to as kenyas alternative currency, but safer and more secure. Stahl ure texting money . Collymore you are effectively texting money. Stahl how sophisticated is the phone that you use for mpesa . Is it a smart phone . Collymoreno, its the cheapest phone y y can have. It was designed to work at the lowest level of technology. Stahl hello. Hello. Hi. Stahl hi. How are you . Im fine. Stahl to get this currency, you go to an m mesa kiosk. I give the agent 3,000 shillings about 30 in cash and she converts it to virtual urrency on my account. Accocot. There are 85,000 agents like her across kenya, creating a giant grid of human a. T. M. S. For most, thiss a side business, so a pharmacy will sell mpesa, or a roadside spiceshop. This barber will give you a shave and mpesa. And, yes, you can even buy mpesa here. Collymore this is bankless banking. Stahl you dont need all those branches. Branches. A. T. M. Windows. Collymore absolutely not. Stahl scrolling down the options on the phone menu, you cacasend money, withdraw cash, pay a bill, or buy goods and services. And everyone uses a pin number for security. But this is not like paying with yoyo smart phone in the u. S. , because our devices are linked to a bank account or credit card. Most kenyans who use mpesa dont have a bank account; the phone is it. Thats it . Collymore now you u n spend that 3,000 shillings on welcome in. Stahl shopping in the name of journalism i like this. Daniel yeah. Yeah. Just click the button and it goes. Stahl daniel says kenyans use it for everything from taxis to taxes. Is it safer for you and fome to use mpesa . Daniel y yh, its very safe. Stahl so do you use mpesa to buy gas for the car . Daniel absolutely. Stahl do you pay all your bills with mpesa . Daniel most of my bills. In fact, i rarely go to the bank nowadays. Stahl at my destination, i tried using the phone money. So, daniel, ive never done this before. Youre my very first mpesa. Daniel mpesa customer. Stahl yeah. Daniel okay. Ll assist where necessary. Stahl i typed in his mobile phone number, and the amount. The fare was 700 shillings, or 7. Im going to give you a 1,000. Daniel oh, youre tipping with it. Thank you. God bless you, god bless you. Stahl i am, i am. Now, my pin number. Daniel ,your pin number, yeah, yeah. You have that . Stahl i have that. I have. Daniel dont tell me that. Stahl no, im not going to tell you. Daniel that is for your. Top secret. Stahl okay, so what do i do now . Daniel yeah. Now, accept. Stahl accept. Okay. Aniel yeah, it just come. Stahl it worked and now, im going to go spend some more money. Hello. Stahl hello. How are you . Stahl im great. I love these bags. How much is this one . Next, i buy a bag at anjis curio shop w wh mpesa. Do you use it a lot in the store . Yeah. Its like having bank in your pocket. Stahl this is really easy. Now, that. Thats the second time ive done it. Ve sent it. phone pings so wonderful stahl my shopping ended with animals. No, im not buying a giraffe. But you can use your phone to feededne. Am i giving you your dinner . While most transactions here are still in cash, mpesa is used by over 19 million kenyans, or 90 heeled to the shoe shiner. This technology was actually invented in england, but it is here in kenya where innovation ususg mpesa is taking off. We visited the ihub in nairobi, where local Technology Startups are inventing new ways to use mobile money. Collymore and that mobile money system now acts as a terrific platform which a lot of other innovations has. Has used as a springboard. And the new phrase around d wn is the Silicon Savannah. Stahl the Silicon Savannah . Collymore yeah, you have the silicon valley, and here its the Silicon Savannah. Stahl today with mpesa, kenyans can get their salaries sent directly to their cell phones, and they can open a savings account and earn interest on their cell phones. Youre going to push mpesa. We met mary tonkei, a a asai dairy farmer, who sells milk in mpesa, pays her farmhands in m more cows in mpesa. And just a couple ofofuttons and then you buy a new cow . Mary yes. Stahl actually, mary was able to buy two new cows, and she got a much better rate than she wouldve at a bank. Since the loan transaction was by phone, there was hardly any overhead. So it sounds like youre rapidly increasing your business. Mary yes, im increasing my business. Stahl business is good . Mary yes, its good. laughs stahl we were surprised at how much mpesa has changed life for the poor. In a slum called kanaani, south of naiaibi, we met a pig fararr, Stephen Wainaina waweru. Before mpesa, like most kenyans, he had no electricity. He used to rely on a kerosene lamp for light. Stephen Wainaina Waweru it givevesmokes here. Stahl it emitted toxic fumes, could cause fires, and at 200 a year, kerosene wasnt cheap. But stephen recently upgrarad. He got solar power, and his first light bulb. Pretty gd. Its lighting your room. Waweru yes. It lights the room all over. Stahl a Company Called m kopa solar invented a way to provide inexpensive power to the slums using mpesa. So where is the panel . Is it up here . Waweru yeah, the panel is up ere. Stahl can you show it to me . Waweru yeah, i can. See, up. Let me show you. Here it is stahl oh, my goodness, its little. The unit costs about 180 less than kerosene, but still out of stephens price range for a single purche. But he paid only 35 up front and then 40 cents a day in mpesa for a year. And he never has to leave the farm all he does is click his phone, which activates a chip attached to o e panel to turn it on. Stahl when youre finished paying it off. Waweru it shall be mine. No more cost. Changed his life he can tend to his pigs at night, and his children can study indoors without breathing toxic kerosene fumes. Past efforts to introduce solar panels to the slums failed, in part, because they were stolen. This hasaseen solved because the same chip that turns the panel on can also disable it. So if you dont pay up, they turn your lights off . They havthe ability to turn. N. Waweru these guys, they are excellent, madame. Because once i dont pay, they dont have to come to me. The light just goes off stahl providing Drinking Water is another way mpesa is making a difference. Nearly a third of kenyans do not have access to clean water, often relying on a river or water trucked in by donkey. But the village of njoguini got a new pump for its well. Villagers pay for clean water by box, which unlocks the pump. A villager can get a full months worth of water for around 6. For decades, Development Advocates implored banks to open branches in remomo places, but it made little business sense. Nearly half of kenyans live on just 2 a day or less. Their Financial Transactions were just too small. Collymore people dont buy a packet of cigarettes. Theyll buy a cigarette. And so we need to be operating at that level. People dont buy a tube of toothpaste. If you go inin the slums, you will see people buy a squeeze of toothpaste. And so you have to operate at that micro level. Stahl now, how can that be viable for you as a company . Its l le they have no money. Collymore because we believe that if we have now 19 Million People transacting small amounts, making small amounts, it will add up. For eaea transaction, there is a small fee. Stahl how much money annually does safaricom make from mpesa in kenya . Collymore a quarter of a billion dollars. Stahl a quarter of a billion dollars . Collymore yeah. You dont have to be greedy to bebeuccessful. Stahl and you can be successful if you dont have to build thousands of branches and pay thousands of tellers. Actually, when mpesa started, kenyas commercial banks implored the government to impose regulations to impede its development, but the government decided to take a handsoff approach, which is ptty usual. Collymore e most effective barrier for the success of mobile money around the world is the banking lobby. The banking lobby in most parts of the world is a very strong lobby. And banks have looked at whats happened in kenya, and have decided that they dont want to see that happening in their own countries. Stahl not in my backyard. Collymore exactly. The banking regulators have been persuaded d at this is a threat to the Banking Industry. Stahl and it is, isnt it . World. Uber came along and completely disrupted a number of things, not just the taxi industry. Airbnb has come along and has disrupted. And so we are in a disruptive world. And we just need to. Stahl this is another one like that. Collymore yes, it is. Stahl it is. Collymore it is. Stahl and so the Banking Industry isnt crazy. Collymore no. No. Stahl mpesa does have drawbacks. There are real concerns of criminal enterprises, scams, and money laundering. And while it has been introduced in other countries, like india, egypt, afghanistan and romania, it has stubbornly refused to catch on as it has in kenya. But the head of safaricom thinks its just a matter of time. Collymore because mobile phones are becoming so much more ubiquitous. Every adult in the world will have a mobile phone. And if you have that tool in your hands, imagine the things you can do. Stahl we found among the kenyans we met that mpesa is igniting a real sense of patriotism. Just ask my cab driver, daniel. Daniel it is one of the best things that has happened to our country. But that makes you feel proud and now, you feel you are kenyan stahl yeah, you ththk of kenya, you dont think of high tech. 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