I direction and I hope that you're finding it valuable I have a couple of more segments. That I came across people who would. Make a difference and how we've look at the way it is and again this is a planetary problem what they talked about and Australia and what they. Talked about in Canada it is certainly the same here and those issues were right here but you know they also happened in Scotland when the English were fighting the Scots for so many years they took away their children too and put them in what they call socializing schools to make them more adaptable to the way the English looked at things it's been happening for a long time it's happened and Asia as well Taiwan took over that island and pushed the indigenous people aside happen in Japan same thing it's happened in Indonesia it's happened in China and so this is something that is all across the planet and in some cases it was. More brutal than others but in pushing aside those who were in touch with the natural world and had a way to communicate that was with respect and honor we pushed aside our ability to live on the planet in harmony I have a nother segment here that I want to play. It is a. A woman talking about the power of apologizing Her name is really on Rianna list you are she's a Dutch woman and she talks about what was done by the Dutch during their times in colonizing which so many of the European countries did they went colonized places and the Dutch were quite They were ruled by a king that just renders things in order to make his country move or. Wealthy and he did not care about what the indigenous people or their needs were now this is a this is. Talking about would have an Indonesian but it was also something that happened in Africa and the same thing happened let's see what she had to say about what happened there. Only has meaning in relation to the past now we all know that every future has a past and every past has a future but for some persons building a future can be troubled can be troubled by circumstances that happened in the past so often stances that may be horrific such as or crimes such as genocide. And we all know that the future symbolizes hope but how is that for these East Indies which we now call Indonesia. And he was vulnerable he was weak he had survived the 2nd world war and he was sent to this faraway colony of the Netherlands and I have to say as well that he actually never left the region of Amsterdam so he went on this boat and took this trip to what for him than was a very certain future. And you should also know that my grandfather is not a soldier by training he was trained trained so to speak as a carpenter and he never had a gun in his arm until that period when he was sent to Indonesia and I've shown you some pictures here pictures that he gave to me that he made during the 2 and a half years that he was in Indonesia you see also himself with a gun in his hand and of course I asked permission to show these pictures here to you now it was a very complex period these 2 and a half years that he was in Indonesia not only because he was not looking forwards to be away that long from my grandmother who was waiting every day for news also for her it was a very difficult time because she never knew if he would return and until this very day today she doesn't like to talk about this periods. Tell. The to do an investigation about alleged war crimes taking place in this far away region and also to claim compensation for the loss of us in their lives these ladies lost their husbands on the 9th of December 1947 in a village called Gaita and the story is like this that the Dutch went into this village and killed almost the entire male population in the peace at school I don't really remember that we were taught about this period in our history let me tell you what happened in this court case the. State lawyer sat that. Government could no longer investigate the accountability because the enormous time lapsed so there is this statute of limitation that prevents to say now in 2005 that these and these persons should be held accountable the court agreed with his argumentation of the state lawyer but also said with regard to the claims for compensation we will not say that we have the statute of limitation the. The court said that these ladies should 1st of all get compensation $20000.00 each and 2nd that the Dutch government should give an official apology for the crimes that were committed in this period and they received that apology you see here a picture of the ladies in Indonesia where the apology is given to them on the level of the Dutch ambassador in 2011 this was I also have to say that from the 11 widows that filed the lawsuit 3 died during the court case the court case last that some 6 years and these ladies are already really very old. Now why does it seem that sorry is really the hardest word we all know this song is this just an example of bad Dutch policy I wouldn't say so there are many other examples in history that show us that governments are reluctant to provide and apologies for crimes committed in the past this last May 2016 President Obama went to the Russian man where he went to memorize the atomic bomb on Hiroshima which cost 240000 people citizens their lives and 3 days later another 70000 versions of died in the bomb attack on like a 2nd so he went there but he didn't give a formal apology he did for flags up on the atrocities committed on both sides even you used a quote from a famous Vietnamese monk that says in through dialogue all sides need to change but he could not give the formal apology why is that so difficult why does it seem so difficult for governments to open up and to say what we did in that period with what we know now is wrong and could even lead to war crimes that has to do with. A few aspects one is that governments sometimes fear that they will be sued in a court of law and that that will cause enormous claims and what I have shown with this case regarding the widows of our Gaita is that ignoring and investigation ignoring to open up actually leads to these court cases and it is not that this is the easiest way for victims to go because these court cases they last long they can cause what we call secondary victimization which increases mental health complaints it is not that a court case is always a way that gives hope and that makes it easier for victims to deal with the pasts Now another reason why governments often fail to come forward with apologies is that they fear political consequences so what will it mean if I will say on behalf of the Dutch nation that I apologize does that mean that I have to quit my job does it mean that I will be fired from my position it is possible it is possible but on the other hand washing up matters can also cause you to have to leave office we have many examples of that as well in history. And here you see President Obama hugging one of the survivors of the year rushing. Attack that we have will witnessed and seen so many pictures of. Now you might wonder now why is it important for the victims to get that apology is that really that important yes it is we have done so much research that shows that victims want acknowledgement acknowledgement of Ford's happened in the past acknowledgement that they were victimized and they want to truth they want to find out who was behind it and who should be held responsible for what happens in their lives now 4 countries it is also very important to deal with your past the Germans have a beautiful work for that which is called a gun and hides the velvety gloom and there's not a good translation for that in the in English or in Dutch but it has to do with you have to deal with your past even if that past has a black page even if that past is something that you would draw to not face we all have a tendency to honor our ancestors we want to see them as honorable people that is normal and widespread all over history but gentle healers make very stinking wounds so if we continue to neglect and ignore the call from victims to get to the truth and to receive these apologies we only make things worse to go back to my grandfather after 2005 you can imagine that our discussions changed before 2005 we also talked about these topics after this court case in 2005 and more and more reports on alleged war crimes in this region came to the fore. I felt a need to discuss this with him and I knew it was sensitive because he still goes each year to the annual Veterans Days and he memorizes with his fellow soldiers their periods and he likes to talk about it and he said to me Rianna it is not so clear cut in a period of war there was one evening that we were ambushed and I had to shoot and that was actually the only time that he used the gun because during the other months they were doing also community work in the villages building providing water in the villages but this one night he had to use his gun and he survives and he said there is not one night that I don't think about this moment that I use that gun and that is also what happened in this period that I told him I said I understand but we also need to think about the differences between acts of war and war crimes so how how do you feel about that do you do you can you talk about that can you. Talk about maybe fellow soldiers that committed these war crimes in this region of the world because for him this as if he came back and saw public opinion turning against him and then as if this just war dead he thought they were fighting is suddenly a very dirty war at this very moment we are confronted with. Daily images of people fighting for their lives and. We see images. Like this image and I know it's a horrific image but this is one of the consequences of that war taking place in Syria 4 already dead John along their water are we able or capable as an individual and that's the level of the state to say sorry for the atrocities that are being committed there in order for the Syrian people to be able to built a future on their recent horrific past I discussed this last night with my grandfather asking him I'm going to show you a picture are you OK and he was OK and he said ran I have one recommendation to make to your audience and that is I wish that our governments are willing to show the courage to conduct investigations in this matter showing all sides the good sides the bad sides both Where did and in this case the Dutch army but also on the other side only then can I put this past off my really to the past. I thank you very much you if. Now is the Rianna let's you're. Talking about the power of apology and. Again it in that nail right on the here right on the head that these these past this past that we have all the dark things that happened. Such is what when all the Duke spoke about with Wounded Knee when so many of the soldiers who fired upon then women and children who were practically defenseless there were a few weapons that the the. Native people held but they were they were surrounded by the 7th Cavalry who had the Gatling guns who had these repeating rifles and they didn't not stop shooting until they saw everyone down on the ground there are very few survivors of that of that and why there were just large number of Medal of Honor medals given I do not understand why the United States Congress could not have done something about it I do not understand. But and our case. We the people oh those descendants of those people an apology because they were acting on our behalf in that that was a sad dark moment. And. I do want to apologize I do dear brave people I am sorry I am so very sorry for the way my light skinned people treated you I know I know that you are. As honorable and wonderful sisters and brothers as any I could ever have. And I apologize I apologize with my heart my heart open I apologize for all the injuries and wrongdoings and steps and the taking of your children and I apologize because it wasn't done in my name oh I have come among you and I know your wonderful ceremonies I know how powerful and enduring and I know the wisdom that your people have. And I apologize and I. Ask you in all sincerity for your forgiveness. And as I'm making an apology I also want to speak to my dear relatives the African-American people beautiful sisters and brothers incredibly able and to this day just like my my red relatives are treated in a way that does not respect what we say we want to do on this night and for ever after thinking it was OK to keep your ancestors in bondage I apologize. I apologize and again. I hope you can forgive me that. It has given me a real complex about the color of my skin I know that time has passed and the mindset was so much different and yet it's still here we still see that we still see that how can anybody how can anyone think it's OK to espouse a Nazi. Ideology Nazis who killed over 6000000 people simply because of who they were not because they were combatants not because date they had any kind of a threat. Apologized to my Jewish relatives and I I know that if there's ever a time when I could stand up and say Enough stop no Hola cost effort I will do it and that and I really I ask that you find it in your heart to forgive me forgive my skin color forgive the ideology that was not crushed and not that was not wiped away enough because we don't use our minds and our hearts enough to show how dark and now insane believe in this way yes oh you know I could go on and on it could follow just the Chinese and laborers who came over here and were treated so poorly and yet they built that that railroad across the Sierra and of course the the Japanese people the Japanese American people who were imprisoned during the 2nd World War And unlike the German American people and the Italian American people they were taken they were taken from their homes and everything was taken from them they were put in these concentration camps and when after they were there for 4 or 5 years. They were given 20 bucks and a bus ticket to go back to their homes and that's it. Yeah they finally got compensation that a lot. To go on they were quite elderly to those who actually suffered that but I know descendants of people whose whose parents or grandparents were there I have a neighbor I have a neighbor who wonderful man you know did this this. Kind of. Race bigotry and hatred and a misguided sense of superiority we need to wipe it away it's holding us back it is enduring all of us it is something that is keeping our planet from being as healthy as we should have it because we have all of these these injuries and we need to be together as one people and we in the United States have the ability to become the greatest people ever because we are all cultures we are all nationalities we are all religions and mine are coming together we actually truly become that shining beacon on the Hill for all the rest of the people of the planet. 27 minutes after the hour. 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Companionship with all the rest of existence all the rest of life our dear relatives the 4 legged just the wing and the keepers crawlers the fan and all of the trees and grass is that plant people that. You thanks for that the water you thanks for the air your thanks for all that we have here on this planet that is is where what we are suited for this is where we developed this is where we came forth this is where we should be so if we harm it we are harming our sounds as well as the rest of creation. And play one more song and then I'm going to. Play. An apology that is given to future generations is this. This is from a. Really bright and wonderful young songwriter by the name of an exact here run an Australian man let's listen when you sing about. Thank you. Come. Come come. Come come come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come spring. Come. Come the tree. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come the. Thank. You. For. Coming. Coming. Next week. Thank God. Cut cut. Cut. Cut. Cut cut. Cut. Cut cut. Cut cut. Cut cut cut cut. Cut cut. Cut. Cut cut cut. Cut. Cut. Thank you and thank. You. Thank. You ed. Dear future generations. I think I speak for the rest of us what. This. Far we have to do with our mix of a planet sorry that we would too caught up with the winter to do something. Sorry we live in the people who made excuses to do nothing. I hope you forgive us we just didn't realize how special the Earth was like There it is there it is and that is a young man by the name of Prince he he and let's hope that that's one apology we can avoid that we could. Have instead those future generations look back and say wow we are so glad our ancestors will come so glad that they made the changes in that time that was so perilous for Earth one more song and then we'll take this earth man show. For this. there is a. NEW DAY. And that is to. Wonderful beautiful Mother Earth. Oh sweet mother. I ask your forgiveness. For any time. I disrespected. You. Or any of your. Family all the children you have brought. Sweet Mother you have always fed me. You have always closed me. You have always given me shelter. You have always filled. My heart with your beauty and you wonder why. You have always. Inspired me. In as a. Person who was asleep in any way. That I have offended you. Are cause you injury. I ask you to please. Please forgive me. For this apology from my heart sweet mother you are. You are with the wonderful mother. Any son and daughter could have. Thanksgiving to you mother things given for all you do. Not. Know where. This song. A lot of people. N.E.P. Or allow one. Translates as land forgiveness. Yes OK Well this is the program I offered this is what I in my heart believe that we need to do I hope that you found some value in it and I thank you for listening to it the people that I brought to it I think are wise for people what has been done other parts of the planet in terms of often apology is a good beginning and we can learn from that and we could do it here let's have a book to say we're sorry let's put it into more of our let's put it into into the other stores here and that's all sign it from that sign and to both the indigenous people of this land and to the earth itself the way we came here and we grabbed that those yellow rocks and we didn't care how much much arsenic we put in how much mercury we put in how much we tore away with the placer mining we didn't care we were looking for our own wealth and self being so we have we have things to apologize for let's begin doing it it don't make a difference if you listen to the earth man show this is the day of answers on where to go I will try to get back here and 7 revolutions of this beautiful planet turning given its day and night day and night day and night and I hope you have a very very wonderful day on this beautiful planet Mother Earth. 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