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Welcome friends welcome to listeners and you are listening to voice of the rocker series on a and k f a next 11 and am independent talk radio I'm your host Brahman all men are called in numbers 602-277-5369 that's 602-277-5369 we do invite you to call in and tell us what do you think of the subject matter that we're going to have today our web location is w.w.w. Dot voice of the macro see Arizona dot com If you go to our website you will be able to listen to any one of our past productions and don't forget to like us and our topic for today is to impeach or not to impeach that's not the question why is there a question so folks I want to welcome our wonderful panel 1st of all I have Mr very bad. Deidre Abood. Our co-producer who is on the line Sophia Rahner Hi So if you know I'm pretty good and we have 2 other special guests we have Michael slug Aki who is also an attorney Hi there and that name I mispronounced and it's look what's key Ok you know and then we have James Garcia who is been around the block many many times oh yeah so many incorrectly Oh thank you. I had a friend named James Garcia in high school and he went on to become a basketball player. And then he was really really good in this but typically short Mexican like I know he just could not do this Polish radical. Anyway folks you are welcome to call him and if you don't think that the president should be impeached please say so but don't try to debate me because we don't have enough time for everybody to do that and I will invite you into the studio and I'm not sure you want to come in so yeah come on in and I mean call in and give us your opinion but here we're going to go and I usually save her for last but I'm going to go to Sophie 1st because Sophie is in Washington d.c. And she is near that. Tornado or is it in fact a typhoon or or something else but Sophie I know one thing. The people over there keep trying to say yeah but Biden did it no I don't care because it Biden did it you should I mean peach to me when you controlled the House and the Senate and. I learned a long time ago when I was working in the courts ignorance of the law is no excuse and you can't say well I can get away with it because somebody else gave it to so we're not going to go there but tell me what is going on but make a really important point prosecutor Biden allegedly had you know you need to go the fact is that that prosecutor actually came forward and there is actually no case again and so you have a guy who Biden had beef with right and who would apparent target I didn't write that he said no it's not actually even guilty of any immediate you know this. Letter that's not a new. And he wasn't actually hired and there weren't other things that were going on at the same time. We know that that that filter so I would regard to the whistleblower on the scene yeah you're right there with the with regard to the whistleblower you know the 1st issue that we have it Ok it looks like again the president with his plea I'm not trying to get you know foreign government into the room a democratic election in the United States like and part of that call out of what that would help you know what we've done it to you know I'm Ok with you doing too well and that's what really. The. The people were to kind of come forward and say What in the world is going on what are you talking about 1st of all the United States has not gone and try to undermine a democratic election there have been. I mean that have gone and have been watching the election because it hadn't been quite I'd been out of clips of the kind of parts of the world but that's not really what's going on in addition even if the United States that i'm point in it's free to try to undermine another country it's not a good reason for a sitting president to say you know what how modern and how I know are not and everything always possible longer that you know and weapon my pocket and I end up being president again right that certainly what the founding fathers said we can't have happened in not allowed to do that and the kind of impeachable offenses that the how willing to look at now I'm sure when we're doing a peaching it's not necessarily for lifting the person up the client it's an f.n. Thing is there enough here to in the president and bring it forward through the Senate to determine if something criminal is. And that is a very very important point to make Sophia because they're saying well we should not do anything because let the people vote him out but if you do not do anything what you're basically saying is some people are above the law so what they're doing is they're charging him with certain actions which are either legal or criminal or whatever and letting a jury make that decision don't let going to. War with the wrong For example if you. Like that will undermine the whole country if you don't do I don't think that what you're in. Behavior is Wow Yes that people are right to get a foreign government to come in and undermine America's election and that's extreme I'm going to get out of. Ministration or a future administration I don't have ministration using a foreign government undermine you know government democratic election is not Ok You know it's not Ok let me go to Deidre and Deidre Welcome back from your world tour. And I want you to jump in because I know that you've been keeping track of everything that's going on so give us your perspective Well 1st I think that we need to break it down because we use this word impeachment and it's this broad thing and people think it's one thing or they don't even know what it is so 1st of all what we're doing now is there's a committee that's doing the initial inquiry and that committee is doing the research and investigation right right basically a preliminary investigation and that then it can go if they recommend it can go further and to a broader house. Inquiry which is gathering evidence gathering testimony and then deciding whether or not to indict and that indictment is called an impeachment from the house then it has to go to the Senate for the actual trial and. If even if the Senate doesn't convict which is what the Senate Impeachment is then it still has the indictment which means that he charges were filed and then you don't have the pardon abilities either so you know it's a long process but it's the same thing as as police and court systems it just doesn't have to be a criminal violation under impeachment law it can also just be a violation of the public trust which is not necessarily in the criminal code and that was on purpose because presidents can do things that you couldn't even identify in a code. And we have a history of a lot of things happening happening politically that the presidents did Ok but but they were not quite rising to the level where you needed to get a model office well you know obstruction conspiracy collusion intimidation all of those other things that this president has done if you let him get away with it you know then other people will come along and say yes but he did it anyway let's go to Michael Michael your thoughts on this I'm going to go with a same no right you cannot let allow Congress to allow these actions to take place there's a lot of things that a president can do from a policy perspective or an action perspective that they're doing that we may disagree with that we may have many problems with but it doesn't rise to that level of an impeachable offense when you get into the level of working with a foreign government to interfere with our elections to alter the state of our elections our democracy that is a whole different level that is a high crime in misdemeanor that rises that level and Congress has a constitutional responsibility to say that's not acceptable and I completely agree and we're. Going to have to take a break but wouldn't we come back we're going to go to James Garcia who is going to give us a community perspective and he's been doing a lot of research and a lot of different. Projects and what have you so he's probably better at this than I am at at any rate we're going to go ahead and take a break Buck's you are listening to voice of democracy Arizona and k.f. Annex 1180 m. Give us a call our number is 602-277-5369 we'll be right back after a break. It depend in tuck a leaven 100 k. F.x. 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Welcome back folks welcome back to voice of democracy Arizona on k f n x 1100 am calling number is 602-277-5369 give us a call and tell us what do you think about what's going on in Washington and we're going to find out from James what's going on in the street what's going on in the community really going on in our country I don't know exactly what's happening story but I will tell you this you know I am. On a daily basis. By the history that we're living through because we are living through an extraordinary moment in history. But the thing is I think most people are kind of missing that because we've been dealing with this scandal a day madness under this administration some of which is illegal some of which is just patently offensive some of which is just. You know when The Washington Post says you've documented it you've. Basically committed about 12000 instances of either false statements misleading statements outright lies right if that's what part of your life is being defined by by definition it's chaos the country is dealing with chaos right but now we're in the midst of an impeachment inquiry process that will almost certainly lead to a peach almost certainly from the house and. Something that I don't think has ever happened before that a president of the United States of America literally tried to get a foreign government to participate in. Meddling I hate that term I had been used with regard to the cyber attacks by Russian. Literally trying to somehow disrupt. Our electoral system and and that he had just literally gotten away with that. Right but now he's caught red handed as you can possibly be and when the head of the national intelligence director comes on and basically says point blank to Congress oh. It's completely legitimate fact based I think he's I don't think he's a partisan and I think he's he has his complaint is completely legitimate. While I'm sure the president was watching to. Elevation the man who appointed him as acting director of intelligence we are in a place that it's just it's a stand up you know as it gets kind of breathtaking where we are with this process right now so so I think 1st of all it we need to absorb that right because the country is going through this for a very specific reason and that reason is because we have never been here before we have not had this kind of president before certainly not in in modern times I was I was there when when we were doing the whole next something I was there when we were doing the whole Clinton playing and let me tell you something you get people who are screaming about oh oh well you know and wait a minute you put Clinton on trial for being inappropriate with somebody lying about having Sandy and with and then you know lying about it. And you have a situation here where we're talking about national security we are talking about one of our allies standing up to one of our enemies and you're going to undermine that effort and then you're going to lie about how you did it and you tell Russian dignitaries Well I don't really care about also the context of it it's the chaotic the context is that at the same time he's appeasing Russia he's speaking of the Philippine direct Filipino a dictator he's appeasing the Saudi Arabia's leadership on and on right these are the people he treats nicely and our allies Canada Germany England all the way down the line are people he offends on a regular basis this is the context that I have I will tell you as as a Marine I would consider that the same thing as that my platoon lieutenant said Ok well hit us over here on on the west side because we're not going to guard that flank so. Sophia what things do you hear in Washington what's happening to the Republicans do they not have opinions. And interesting thing is that I think very publicly they've been very loud and they have been you know very quick in trying to you and to think that I know plaid Atlee I think that it's I think a lot of internal addict so you would think that internally that might be a debate that might become lacking that might be you know angry discussion and kind of. The thing the accusation but actually internally really are kind of shock and I think that. They know the gravity of their they do know you know privately that this is serious and that it had finally reaching ramifications into the future that if we allow the dictatorship and that's been true. With the election. You know and we won't control our country in the future so I don't really know what's going on at the same time I think that they're going to continue to you know person. Behind the doors. Shocked and worried Ok Michael you had a point to make here well just just just today a few days ago Senator Flake said that if the vote was done in secret 35 senators who would vote to envy to impeach Trump so if they were secretly doing this they would be against the guy but we need that help minus They all right yes but when he did he went on to say do let public that there's no love lost you know for Trump and there and then quote There's a lot of fear of what it means to go against the president that is not what a democracy that is not what any person in the government the United States of America should ever say about the u.s. President ever that is a dictatorship mentality. And to me we're supposed to be the land of the brave you know so you're a bunch of spineless cowards and you're saying that you're the land of the brave I wouldn't care if he was a Democrat or a Republican or one of the 12 Apostles if he's trying to undermine our security and he is committing collusion conspiracy and intimidation I'm sorry you and I are no longer on the same wavelength because I consider myself not a hero but an American and it also. It also be lies a kind of hollow. Sort of conviction if you will that the Republicans have had for so long where they've basically said we are the party of the rule of law we are the party that him right he's in the rule of law when it's comfortable there where the rule of law specifies now that the president of the United States made. Very well have committed a crime it is a Car him to participate with someone from a foreign government let me back up and I quote that you are trying to make a point well and on that point it's these are national security Republicans this is a national security issue and for the last 18 years since 911 national security has been the priority of the United States federal government where all those people right now that the shouted down our ears that we need to protect ourselves protect the homeland and now we have foreign interference and we have 2 attempts to to foreign countries to alter or make in effect or involve themselves in our elections Ok you guys I realize that this is sort of stretching the thing to a point but can these people actually be perceived as being conspirators after the fact or you mean you know the people that have Ok so let's get to that point the president and Rudy Giuliani did not do what they did alone there are people who knew there are people on his staff the stories that broke over the last couple of days about some secret server where this information is being stored the transcripts are being stored and that there is a there's an understanding by the administration leadership that when the president goes off the rails and start to say crazy things like what he said to the president of Ukraine let's not keep that transcript in normal files let's put it somewhere else cover up that itself should be a considered a criminal act Well listen I was 12 pages listening in on these calls yet there's 12 other people at least there were lawyers that were involved that may have told them to hide the files so there was a legal issue there in what they were advising and there may be one or 2 staffers who are relatively low level and they listen to the calls and maybe their job is to take notes and pass it on somewhat but there are people in positions to make decisions like what you just described about where the information is going to be kept is the information. To be kept in such a place that it can't be accessed by normal sort of Staff people etc etc It's a cover up right in the cover letter and the act of covering something up is this if you can commit a burglary and and I know about it and then I help you hide the tools that you used to commit that burglary I am assisting in that crime right well a bank and and it was intentional and it was intentional because not only did you have high level staff making these decisions because you actually can't put anything in that special credit computers really don't. Want to have hostility clearance but it was White House attorneys who were determining which of these calls should be put in this national security database where they didn't belong that that is an accessory if there was a crime committed in the 1st place they are excessive accessory after the fact committing a crime and then asking your attorney for advice and him telling you how to cover it up yeah which is I guess the. Exact even I know that you know you know guys who are going to have maybe one more minute before we have to go into the hard break but let me tell you something that one of the things that I hate I've been in government literally all my life and when people say well I saw it but it's not my job to report it like hell it's not. It's the same thing like when when you swear when you join the military or any other lawyer kind of a thing and you're supposed to protect this country against all enemies foreign and Republican and domestic you know you're supposed to do that it is your job but the the bigger point is when you're a federal employee there are federal regulations that actually put that in writing as law Yeah so you are not just a normal person who should probably tell people things it is required by law they came with the time that you took the job and finally somebody just decided hey I love my country more than I Love My Job So anyway folks you are listening to voice of democracy Arizona an independent talk radio i Phone Numbers 60227753696022775369 Do give us a call we want to hear your opinion and we will be back right after the break and we're going to tell you those story we don't care who it is you who deserve the truth. The. 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Annex 1100 am I mean the whole is Roman Allman with us today we have Deidre bood James Garcia Michael slug Aki and our co-producer Sophia Ron are and we are talking about to impeach or not to impeach and we're giving you the details of what's going on and what things have been broken and Michael you have a a little bit of a background on where we started these things when we 1st framed the Constitution well we all know the history of our country and right we found it after a revolution but one of the framers of our country one of their chief concerns that they discussed over and over again was foreign influence in our government in our system of democracy George Washington warned about it wanting to be constantly awake for the foreign influences of one of the most painful foes of republican government Thomas Jefferson warned about foreign entanglements Madison talked about defending the Constitution against. Foreign magistrates being involved we put this in our constitution with the Emoluments Clause which is a whole separate issue here that we should be talk with it it could be part of this but we haven't emoluments cos it tries to limit the amount of foreign influence in the chief in our Executive Office itself so the framers of our country warned us about foreign influence in our elections so there's a lot of historical precedents that backs us up for impeachment in preventing that foreign involvement in our republican form of government and yet and the other thing that we're also extremely worried about was having the leader of the country being above the law and that's why they put impeachment process in the Constitution because they did not want as anyone where everybody was subject to the locks at the King. You know and another thing I want to bring up here is what comes in the play is it would this stop because Benedict Arnold sold out our country because he didn't think he was getting rewarded enough for all the wonderful things that he did for us and so as far as I'm concerned that plays a factor here too but we do have 2 callers on the line so I'm going to take Tom's call Tom welcome to the program well Tom Yes I'd like to know what I'm worried about. I can't hear you hope will allow him to go it Ok go ahead Ok this one more. Person that has the information. Ok that's true or not Ok And the 2nd. But why didn't. You work for the president or to the United States are talking. About this incident when you're not doing anything Ok I'm going to carry on but not here are the woman well you know we can hear you we can hear you. Know I want to wait wait wait wait so if you wait go ahead the whistleblower has to be a 1st. Rate wait. Here if you're misinterpreting the law Deidre is going to give you some information here so you know so alerting the authorities about a crime that happened does not have to be 1st person it's just like if you were told by your neighbor that they robbed the house you did not participate in robbing of the house but your neighbor told you about it so you go and tell the police and you give them enough information that they can follow up on an investigation that's what we have here it doesn't require 1st person it just requires knowledge and information that can be investigated so if you want to look at this. I'm not. Saying that is not what we hear the police but we never have 1st knowledge generally. Being a crime happened I think you would collect the evidence but it could get there and on the ground it over to your Ok I know. That where that information and then when. I think if I. Were kind of at that point I might now Tom let me add one thing to to this and that is I can't tell you how many times in the police department you get a phone call about somebody committing a crime Ok and then it's up to the police to investigate that crime as a city employee I got all kinds of information from all kinds of places about somebody committing a crime somebody killing somebody but they were afraid to take that information directly to the police so they used me as a go between it's perfectly legal and what it does it starts the investigation process going and it's up to them to prove and what do they investigate I gotta let you go because we got another caller on the line and I appreciate your call Fran welcome to the program. I just want to say I want to present a united states no Hmong or have the people that interest for your own wallet and his own interests and his family's interests you no longer need to be in opposition himself 1st. Also dealing is a problem thank you very very much Fran thanks for the call did this raise a point I'd like to just if you want to share so. I think I have understood from the minute that Donald Trump arrived at the bottom of that escalator that this is a man who has no known scruples whatsoever he has about himself no ethics no sense of law or all right and wrong etc etc And and he's proven it again and again and again hundreds of times since he's taken office but in school back to the Republican Party in the leadership in the Senate and the House there are a lot of people there who get it like Donald Trump doesn't understand what the Constitution stands for he doesn't understand that the idea of the rule of law he doesn't care well but there are a lot of people in the House and in the Senate who get that but are simply afraid to speak up for their own because of their own political opportunism that is extraordinarily disappointing James saying it in a non legal way Ok he can't get past we. Ok Because as far as he's concerned it's neat and and that's the problem we have Sophia jump in. You know what I did actually want to throw one thing out. So with regard to impeachment the whole world watching you know you're crying had actually been the country where we you know I mean this issue it and believe actually at the foreign power to investigate political benefits and I think. The country that just a law that would allow for impeachment and that we're big issue in the country is the. Foreign powers like rock star. Meddling with them and then. To do whatever Russia wanted and that's why they have that they look. At other countries. Where you are the criminal what the government was the law to do and. You know Sophia I mean absent. That's absolutely. You had a point Michael and just to back up what Sophia said is the rest of the world is watching Yeah they're seeing how we respond to it they're seeing how we investigate it we're seeing how we treat an executive that acts like this and they're also treating seeing how we do the investigation with the whistle rip blower report and in a healthy democracy we should be supporting these kind of actions to to call out abuse when it happens and that's dangerous if we're showing to the rest of the world that if a person calls out your government for abuse it's not Ok to to push them down yet James let me make this point to a hoax one of the things we have to understand is what everything that's been said here is we were the example our Constitution was the model for the rest of the world not only Poland and France but all the other countries who wrote their constitution modeled it after what we did so are we going to defend this model or are we going to say it doesn't matter James No I mean the point that Mike races is is incredibly important we should not suggest that the United States of America is perfect and that we have a set of laws and everyone abides by them and nobody you know we have a set of laws so that when someone breaks those laws we have a process by which we can try to enforce those laws and get the country back on track and it happened with Nixon and after next after the next administration I think the country was in a better place Yeah well it's administration I think that that will happen here that the. That sitting politics aside for the moment the impeachment of President Trump delivers a message to the world that that at least the House of Representatives believes that the law matters and that we can't let and that no one is above the law and we can't let it wait I cannot tell you guys how often I'm out there on the street and you ask people to vote or register to vote now 1st thing I tell you is I don't want to be involved in politics it's all dirty it's not. You had a comment to make Well I mean there's a difference between a government which is supposed to be public service and a corporation and we currently have a president who thinks this is a corporation and he's the owner and that's that's a problem with the whole idea of we should run it like a business I agree that we should be efficient and we shouldn't waste money but we should serve the public which means we do have to also spend money from a corporate perspective the law is whatever I can get away with the law is whatever I say it is and that it's not on how a democracy works folks we're going to take a break here so we'll have a little bit of time left after the break you are listening to voice of democracy Arizona an independent talk radio k.f. Annexed 1100 am are calling numbers 602-277-5369 give us a break and tell us what you think. 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Goodwill bring good home brought to you by goodwill and the Ad Council no fake news in the pen and talk 1100 k. F. And x. For local news links same great giveaways joining j. Evan x. On Twitter if you are update which it at 1100 k. Of a next aka Welcome back folks. Welcome back to Voice of the macro see Arizona are calling number is 602-277-6569 extension 3. Getting you know be a long day anyway folks we're going to go to Sophia in Sofia Can you please tell us why it is that some people who might be working for an agency would be reluctant to come forward and be the whistleblower but they would talk to a coworker So if you are you there right Sophia is probably busy so and she's very whistleblowing right. So why don't we go to Deidre why why would some people be reluctant to be the ones that come out there but they will share it with a coworker Well look what's happening to the whistleblower everybody's trying to find out his identity and you know slain him in the media and technically you know maybe even putting his life in danger I mean this is pretty high level stuff. That just yesterday was it yesterday the day before the president of the United States of America basically suggested that whoever is giving up this information should be executed he said that yeah Ok it's like sort of your salary would be scared right a little but Sophia All right that's happening being that whoever actually but the information being. On the Web shortly after well well there are now. And I always thought that was a really proper name being there and I'm kind of huge you that was going on it would probably really was very reflective. Agenda and I really wonder if that might have played into it. What happened and there might have been a very big clash and I told somebody what to do. You know what he might have said walk back McAuley you know what's required and at this point we can't have that I can't have me trying to negotiate for our entreaties and negotiate foreign affairs and at the same time I have a president where he's using foreign powers to meddle with on Election Day And what's fascinating about your theory is Trump was on Air Force One just before he fired molten and and accused Bolton of being a leaker it's possible guys we have a couple calls on the line so let me take the so we have Steve on the line Steve welcome to the program I guess thanks for taking the call I want to just. Put out a cautionary note there you guys are speaking as if this is already a done deal not me oh no no no no me weeks not really interested in the Pietschmann inquiry Yeah you know there's the operative word inquiry yes yet which out there they are in that process. And so we can't talk like Ok well you know he isn't being a p.c. Not being impeached Yes that is part of mph the process a process Well I think but I think you're right we are pretty We are going with $293.00 Democrats now done deal it's a 3 part deal it's an inquiry did an indictment right then. For writing Ok give it away give it away on the other side innocent until proven guilty All right definitely Thanks a lot about the facts Steve thanks for the call we appreciate that we have Dan on the line day and welcome to the program Dan. Dan must a dropped off. Ok can I say one quick thing about it to prove him guilty in the press of the United States confirmed that he committed this crime he said I did it right he said I did it it was a wrong right as it makes you well basically the argument right now is I did it and so what and so so what is we believe you broke the law that's well let me tell you guys as far as I'm concerned the process is where it should be and that's in the investigation of where you get the facts the one thing I would urge the president to do is stop trying to obstruct that process and allow the facts to be obtained and I would tell you if he was anybody other then the president Deidra If somebody a court or the police said I need this information and you say you know go take a flying leap what would happen you know you get condemned to court and then their opinion on the court what the punishment fit was the secretary of exactly that person would be gone right now if they had done this Dan is back on the line and welcome and thank. You you know at 20 minutes so not a great granddaughters birthday Paul you got to celebrate those. Great great far. I think we need to do whatever we need to do to get back to what the Constitution says the letter written in you have your hair in writing the guy you know need it. And I would go further and suggest the president and most of his people should probably take their right to remain silent because so far not only has the president admitted to the allegations even if he doesn't think they're wrong but he's also and his people to have continuously said this is the call was not a national security matter it was not there was nothing secret on the call there's nothing to see here which number one which number. When calls into question why it was put into a secret decoder computer that is only for national security and number 2 takes away his argument for the impeachment process that he can't give up the transcript because it's national security he just needs to stop talking digger at the simple fact is from the standpoint of somebody who is in the military it is a national security matter because if we have an ally and we are not given them the net weapons that they need and that the bank collapses Ok I think no actually right I made a point though that people some people are making around the administration is that the the impetus for the original call was not to discuss national security issue it was to have a congratulate the president for winning the president of Ukraine when you're not going to know what result for the call what's right yeah we got into all sorts of and I would go and I would go further and say it's in a national security issue that's why we have the impeachment process actually However it's not a national security defense to withhold documents Ok. So he do you have anything else Ted. Well you know I was actually going to mention that on the act. One of the thing that I've been found very important Well you know fire her and. Her and put this guy back in play. After by right. And the president turned around and said I want my guy I will put somebody in place for you to do what you know at. Night and you know there is some issues with what the Ukrainian president did because I want you to be your puppet if you can about my writing and so. It's a pretty interesting. Discussion about what happened even from the Ukrainian Sophia let me let me ask Michael question here Michael is this situation where you've got . Giuliani in there who has not taken the pledge and yet he's carrying the instructions from the president where do you have a solution. It's what is Giuliani's efficient official position because he's claiming that he's working on behalf of the State Department and he's claiming he's never taken a ledge which the State Department is not with the State Department denies So does the president night states now have a private envoy on behalf of the president as a candidate but not as the president to a foreign governments to seek out information about their political rival a man who doesn't work for a government that wasn't approved by the Senate wasn't approved by anyone to represent the United States of America overseas and he did and these private meeting circumvents all of our international people who are who actually have taken an oath to do that job well outside of the diplomatic norms and channels that we have outside of the rule of law be so is he did on the sunny his in force or basically is and. And that's what's kind of scary here is it's kind of old New York slumlord type politics here that they're trying to push in trying to think city sending Giuliani down the street to put you know push boss a guy around let's put this way I mean I I kind of like laws Ok I don't like having him around right because when I go to a stop sign everyone supposed to stop and wait until it right exactly and if I apply for a job people cannot discriminate against me you know for all sorts of reasons but there are laws on the books that are intended to to allow for the governor for the society that we all exist in to run a little bit more smoothly right there it's a purpose for it so that there is a kind of a community benefit of it and that's what these laws are about and we can't just have the president hire a private attorney and say go represent me all around the world because where we're going to go next after Ukraine was he going to go to Japan was he going to go to Russia he says Are you sure you did that's right was he going to go to China this guy has just he's not on the federal payroll that's an approved by the Senate personal attorney exactly that's personal business you know you know understood that to misrepresent yourself well as a representative of the United States government or anybody else the last night I thought of what was going along when you do your next documentary I do want to be on net or otherwise you won't be coming on this program anymore Ok. Anyway we're almost out of time Deidre wrap it up. You know it's a process let's go through the process let's do the inquiry Let's allow the inquiry let's do the the investigation and if it gets to conviction fine if it doesn't that's fine but let's have transparency that's what it's all about and let me let me add this line we are doing our job we cannot let anybody be above the law if we do we stop being the nation of liberty and justice for all and if we do not set the example to the rest of the world we will no longer be that . Heaven at the end of the rainbow or whatever the beacon of democracy shining down on the Hill Italy folks I am so sorry we are out of time. I hope you have gotten some of the facts and if you don't have the facts go on our website voice of democracy Arizona and I'm going to invite all of these guys to put in whatever things they miss here come back to us next Saturday and hopefully we will have a much more pleasant thing to talk about maybe d.v.r. 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