And they got it done that's no surprise in today's n.b.a. Free agency feels wild when stories are breaking but it feels like the players know exactly what they're doing and what is turned out to be a historic free agency period Think of all of the stories this year from the beginning of the year to up until Sunday all of the rumor innuendo speculation reporting I'm hearing and how much of it came true who had Kemba Walker going to the Celtics Al Horford going to Philadelphia j.j. Redick going to the pelicans I mean just a couple of names there Kevin Duran I believe it was a 90 percent report that he was going to the Knicks 90 percent and he somehow ends up with the nets I thought he would play with Kyrie I thought it would be New York I had nobody that was telling me this other than that was my feeling he wanted his own team he wanted to distance himself from Golden State. So he ended up in New York he just ended up in Brooklyn but all of the speculation here of he's going to the Clippers he's going to the Clippers all I'm hearing is going to the Clippers everybody it feels like it's him you know this small incestuous world that we have with the insiders and I'm hearing and you know this rumor and then you have to sort of part this see here and go what is true and what is not true and that's really hard it really is and there are guys who do it really well because they work hard but you know the sports world cluttered with one of these where you throw stuff out you know I'm here and you know because there's no repercussions when you're here because I can say is hey it's what's what I heard when you start to report that's when it gets really interesting because then you start to go Ok You know there are reports that Co I was going to go to the Lakers Ok I wouldn't be surprised now this late in a game. But remember when the report was cold wind doesn't want to be part of this circus with Le Bron remember that is that still true if he signs I believe the circus is in town in the words of Dirk Nowitzki but there's so much speculation out there because you don't bosses want their employees to have something new like what do you have for me this I mentioned this yesterday about e.s.p.n. There was so much pressure on Chris Mortensen Peter Gammons you know you got to have these you know what do you hear what are you hearing and you know you got sometimes you don't have anything and somebody is going to beaches sometimes somebody is going to get that information there I go back to Bob Nightingale with USA Today member when Bob came on the show and he said it's a done deal right Harper is going to Philadelphia 6 weeks later nothing and happen and we're going no where is he going back to the Nationals What about the Dodgers What about the Yankees. Maybe it wasn't a done deal but Bob Knight go said look it's a done deal he's going to Philadelphia and of course he ended up there you know with quite Leonard I think he's going to stay in to run Ok though he's definitely a Clipper's of the front runners Ok I counted that happen you were the front runners and now you're not because it feels like it's a a Laker Raptors decision here so it can drive you crazy it's fascinating it's like a sped up game of tennis where there's so many volleys and they're back and forth you're just trying to keep track of it and you don't know what's real and not real you have and I think we spend a lot of time and it's fun to do in your head is what would I think of our choir Leonard and you know I look at him as since he wanted Tronto it's easier to leave not harder to leave it easier he gave them a great year over year they'll remember forever he'll be a legend that town whether stays or goes they'd love to stay but if you go if he still game something great it's easy to leave Toronto after a title let's say they came up one game short it may be tougher to leave I don't know and I don't know what he thinks I just think that's what I'm in my head and it comes down to 2 players that we don't know their personalities because you'll remember when I think it was Rick Buker from Bleacher Report said Kevin Durant's 90 percent that he's going to the Knicks and I said you know what that makes me nervous the more we think we know Kevin the rant the more it feels like he'll change his mind I don't know if he was going to the Knicks I really doubt that he was going to the Knicks but you're trying to figure out Kevin Duran you're trying to figure out quite Leonard and their unique personalities but Kevin to rant wants to be loved he really does he just he wants to be maybe courted He once in granite Golden State did this he should have known going to Golden State that Steph Curry sting they love Steph Curry they raised Steph Curry they drafted Steph Curry you you're a hired gun. I don't know how we could be surprised at this now and I think they're going to say hey you know we we've got some nice parting gifts we're going to retire your jersey Ok. I have a theory do you want my why they're retired Kevin Durant's Jersey theory it's it's based off nothing which is like most of it Ok Bob Meyers and the management said we're going to look good doing this we're going to look good to free agents we're going to let him out of here it's almost like having someone sign an n.d.a. And not disclosure we're never going to talk about the injuries the doctors the whatever happened here it's all in the past were tired Jersey you're going to leave here with good feelings we're not bitter and the next free agent wants to come here and this is the kind of treatment you're also going to get it's a p.r. Move and it's like a non n.d.a. Like Kevin no talk about your your Achilles or the calf and moving on good luck to you New York and I could see that you know you played 256 games with the Warriors. It kind of feels like it's one of those gestures where you go hey can we just make up for what happened in the postseason like can we put a nice bow on this and and when you come back when you're you know playing with the nets then we'll have your big ceremony there and be an emotional moment and everybody will hug and we move on I get that but anybody else surprised at this that you've played you know few years there and you want to a couple finals m.v.p. Got a couple of titles and retire the jersey there yes. I don't understand why but I mean it's nice and all but like if I was somebody like Andre good ol I would be like What the hell I never tire my jersey Well he's probably going to get his jersey retired I'm guessing and so will set a 6 man will get a jersey retired now probably So what are you going to do jumpers I don't think Andre You dollars going to get his number retired. I don't think so but it does feel like this is he we need some good p.r. Here you know because we're getting hammered ego dollar who's out the door he criticized the medical staff of how they treated his injury and it's like when can we do have a statue No no not just thank you you know we can't do that that's for staff. Will . You his jersey has anybody want 35000000 Ok what are we Yeah let's retire put out a press release Yes but I've always wondered and you'll never get a straight answer if Clay Thompson and Curry and I dream green look at Kevin Durant's as hate us 3 and the rest of the team we climbed Mount Everest we're sitting here on top of Mount Everest after finally getting to the promised land and you get helicopter ride to the top of Mount Everest you're hanging out with us for a while and we summit of Mount Everest now we've got to Mount Everest and you showed up and we were already rounding 3rd base and heading the home helping us a score the winning run I wonder if they think that the doubt but they say they recruited him sure they must have known they needed something because they recruited him yeah if you don't think you need him I don't think they needed him I think they were said let's make sure he doesn't go anywhere else we can get him to us he's not playing against us he's a lucky I was 30 the looks right and they can win without him well if he stayed in Oklahoma City that would be tougher to deal with yeah they were close there were 3 want and I know I know but you know once again we Kevin Durant's he just wants to be loved he does he doesn't want to be the villain he was the villain he ruined basketball basketball was no foreign Golden State's going to win and now he gets a chance with the nets where they're kind of an underdog now it gets his own team and he and Kyrie can have some fun here yes make love and pull option Ok if Kevin around could go back in a time machine to the summer of 2006. Would he still sign with the Warriors Wow. Because everything that came with that couple of titles and you blow out your Achilles I'd rather have to criticize the Rings than know criticized rings you know I mean you could say I know you won't out of Killie's fine you could take both of the Rings people are answering us on Twitter saying that Duran has implied that those rings don't mean much to him I don't know if that's true. I don't know what goes on in his head but you know obviously he is very sensitive but I would think you're the finals m.v.p. Twice. That has to count for something but I am quoting people on Twitter Kevin didn't tell me that you said that yeah like why then well then why did he go there I have no idea he went there to just to get all the criticisms of getting easy rings and then got the rings he's like Yeah but they were easy they don't really mean anything if only I was at a place where I could have built something around like Ozomatli city those would be more meaningful Yes MacLEOD Well maybe it was a reaction to be in Oklahoma City where the ball dominant style was killing his fellow you know that so maybe he wanted to try that style you know getting out Ok you still joined a team that won 73 games you had I mean you can't go you know I joined the Clippers Ok then then I respect what you're doing and why you're doing and it feels like it's a little mill more altruistic like how to go help younger team the underdog team and try to win a title here and be my team the Steve Balmer needs a break in life that's yes he'll go yes yes for to that's even remotely true that he doesn't count those chapters as meaning too much to him so for now one will tell people not to refer to him as a 2 time n.b.a. Champ when he goes to speaking engagements and goes to the Dan Patrick Show according to people on Twitter yes Steve on Twitter true car shows you what other people paid for the car you want you can recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car visit you carn enjoy a more competent car buying experience what's the poll question McClellan sponsored by Man Versus Food on cooking Ok we have that Duran time machine and we have who's going to win the n.b.a. Finals now I have had a few times but I guess you kind of the way I got a wife or Quietus if he goes back to Toronto then you know that that changes their odds if he goes to the Lakers then the Lakers are going to be prohibitive favorite c.m. Punk don't you I don't really care I don't have dog in this fight but I kind of want to go see quire Leonard sign with the Lakers to see how the media national and local covers Laker management are they still. A dumpster fire they still know clueless is Jeanie Buss will have no idea what she's doing is still a bad guy who's a liar can you be that and sign have 3 of the best players on earth on your roster because it's it's a coin flip whether it's going to happen as of right now probably $5050.00 I know what the odds are but are you still a disaster if you got that a month later. No I don't think so but but I think it was that tenuous where all it takes is one player in the n.b.a. You already had Bron and you didn't trade and Anthony Davis wanted out of New Orleans and the Lakers gave everything they could possibly give and then some to get him you had the brawny wanted to go to l.a. You had Anthony Davis who wants to who wanted to be there. I don't know how difficult that was it was basically putting together the pieces that would appease the pelicans So you got a guy who wanted to be there why it might take a little more recruiting and that will be incumbent upon the management there with the Lakers to do their due diligence and you know say the right things at the right time to the right people with Co I but I you know I think it's just it's a 2 team race here with Toronto in the Lakers and I would say the fact that he's in Los Angeles making these decisions bodes well for the Lakers we're going to talk to Howard back he writes for Bleacher Report and he has his latest article is inside Kevin Durant's and Kyrie Irving is plot to team up in Brooklyn. You know this has been in the works for a long time and I think most of us had those 2 going to the Knicks instead of the next 8773 d.p. Show email address t p a damn Patrick dot com Did you guys remember this comment this is Bob Meyers the Golden State g.m. This is from the Warriors championship parade in 2018 and he had this awkward joke about Kevin Durant's. These guys it was just for Steve you know the worst Steve. She was she going to see. This all. The research research she didn't hear last year. In the recent years of the year where you sit. There and the Warriors. Staff earned it. He's been here since the start. Now and funny people should make job yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's really funny then a Kevin Durant's not going to get a Steph Curry deal because he's been here since the beginning they want their calculator leave the jokes then that that's not good and then yeah dream on green get in his face and you know we we won before you got here and he's yelling at him to get suspended for a game at one point in k.t. Go home and I made a bad decision here. Bad decision here he got his 2 titles get out of town all right you're fine you're big boy. Same with Kyrie you wanted out of Cleveland you how to claim now you want out of Boston are you with the Nets everything should be good take a trip around the world you know and that's what I would tell Kari take a trip around the world see if it's round see if you fall off in like you know just tell me you like what city or what what part of the world you fall off and then there's all these boats and planes and people there gathered there so I tell Kyra to do you know explore a little bit and. Come up with a poll question and Howard back will join in and we'll talk to all the nets sharpshooter He's Joe Harris the 3 point shooting contest where he says Joe Harris right yet Joseph Joe Joe Joe Harris our guy Joe is his nickname is Joe allowed to talk about Kyrie in Kevin Durant's I don't want to get him in trouble because it's not official until July 6th I believe when we have to refer to them by different names the new tall guy you got the guy who wore 35 and Golden State that might be too specific the guy who wanted out a cliff now out of. The guy who thinks the earth is flat Yeah aren't you could do that the guy who leads the league in burner phones. 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Because it kind of took this their competitiveness out of the league for a little bit o. But there are something to be said for when the league has a focal point team that that league of speaking when there's a team we everyone in the world knew everyone in the country knows who Steph Curry is and Kevin Duran drayman green and my kids know who Steph Curry is because of how powerful the Warriors got they transcend in the sport but Aaron he doesn't do that but you had a sport where you had a conclusion at the start of the season we thought that last year and we thought you know it well as we said you know the only way they lose is if they have 2 injuries and they had 2 injuries or they would have won another title but we knew the conclusion and you know the Patriots can be favorites but you know we're still interested in watching the entire n.f.l. Season and the loss of Philadelphia in the Super Bowl but I think Golden State and I don't know if it was good for the n.b.a. Because it took away the regular season really it took we way we kept talking about free agency we started this season talking about this next season that's not good for a league Howard Beck Bleacher Report columnist joining us on the program was Kevin Durant's stay in Golden State good for the n.b.a. . Whom boy I tend to not look at these things as what's good or bad for the n.b.a. Dan but just kind of what it is and then we just see where the consequences of it are but I mean now that it's over look there's this there's this love hate thing we do with dynasties super teams we love him or love to hate him you resent them and I know in this case it was because people didn't feel it was organically built or because during and joined in a ready made championship team that somehow made it even worse than the average so I don't care about any of that but I do think that you know the ratings show that there was incredible interest in the class in the final the last few years I think local ratings were down in the last few years and a lot of the regional sports networks which is what you know it's hard to divine what that means it may mean that there's a lack of hope and intrigue in certain markets because the fact that it felt like the championship was preordained it's hard to know how to analyze that I do think that this 5 year warriors run in total with and without Durant's the whole thing it was good for the n.b.a. That people were really really interested in the warriors and the Warriors played an incredible brand of basketball with some of the greatest players in the sport's history and people want to watch that so now I think on balance it was probably good I also think that the crash and burn now of the warriors or at least the temporary pause means there's going to be a lot more intrigued about next season and who can win the title even though they're hard the defending champions which is going to feel a lot more wide open and I have to think that's a good thing if you could say to Duran prior to making that decision Golden State this is what's going to happen you're going to win a couple of titles and you're going to blow out your Achilles and then you're going to leave would he sign up for that. Oh interesting I think most guys would tell you at the outset Hell yes I think you know and we see it all the time right we see guys sacrifice their bodies in the sport not all of them do we've seen you know Kobe Bryant plates for all kinds of like ridiculous stuff you know we all know in football Ronnie Lott chopping off his pinky part of it I mean athletes will go to extreme lengths at times to guarantee themselves the chance to win much less the guaranteed to win so if you're telling him this is the bargain you're paying in advance your deal with the devil you're going to spend 3 years there when 2 titles 2 finals m.v.p. But you get to leave with a pretty lousy injury at age when most 31 I think you might take it we're talking to Howard back Bleacher Report n b a reporter columnist and insider you an insider how dissent. Are you an outsider an insider Howard I kind of think of myself as more of the outsider and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with you being an insider is a lot of pressure is part of it don't be part of any club that would have. I so what are you hearing about Cole why Leonard and what what is this coming down to that he needs time to make his decision. That's a great question quick observation here Koh I lettered who thought of as the most no drama no nonsense superstar all the stuff he's the one who's actually dragging things out like Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving made a decision right off the bat Jimi but there is already in place everybody else is already in place it's quite literally the guy who never want that you played That's a look at him pay attention Mr No drama Mr Low maintenance he's the guy who's dragged us that has now got us all hostage How about that yeah. I don't you know listen it's hard for us to know what's going through his head you know even on smaller things much less something as weighty as where he's going to spend the rest of his career potentially so I don't know. I suspect you know look 1st of all this is his 1st free agency this is this is a I think difficult decision for him if things are going badly and when you're in Toronto it's easy to leave but things went spectacularly on every level not just the championship but just the connection I think he had with that organization with his teammates with the entire country of Canada and I think walking away from that would be difficult I think that both l.a. Teams present some really attractive possibilities I think that he initially as we know from a year ago wanted to go home to southern California and that hole is still there. And the Lakers are do you really want to go be the 3rd wheel to Le Bron James and Anthony Davis that I mean maybe maybe they feel like they could just go dominate the league for the next 5 years I don't know I mean these are 3 very different options and tradeoffs and there's the possibility of staying and going short on a contract. You know anybody who's trying to guess what's enquires head is is a full it just feels like the media is hopeful he goes to the Lakers you know if he stays in Toronto then it's like No Ok stay in Toronto. And you know use that or the Clippers like I I think it's more interesting if he went to the Clippers than the Lakers we want change we like change how many. Seems that we get to a trade deadline and we're going all God is going to be traded is going to be trade then you wake up the next day and know who got traded you know it's you know some 6th man who got traded this is a big deal because this impacts Le Bron's legacy and I know we love using that word legacy but it impacts his legacy and quiet legacy as well if he wins a 3rd title with the 3rd different team you know maybe tacks on a couple more you know he moves up that list of great players of all time Anthony Davis with what it does for him the Lakers organization I don't know it's a it's a big I don't know if it's a seismic shift in the history of the game I think I think Sunday is going to be was one of those days that we're going to look back and say I was pretty big day in n.b.a. History but you know why if he ends up with the Clippers is more interesting than him going to the Lakers. I agree going to the Lakers I think everybody on the one hand you're right I mean we're all addicted to transactions and change is more interesting than just static you know inertia I think him going to the Lakers though will cause a lot of people to roll their eyes and say Ok here we go again like why lettered who at this very moment might be the best player in the world is going to go join up with 2 of the other top 5 players in the world of people you know here we go another super team in the Le Bron let super team what any of those Laker fans who criticize the Golden State Warriors ratting Kevin Durant's are going to have to go Yeah on 2nd thought yeah I mean it's always great when it's your team and you know although this is a credit of a credit to I should acknowledge this that there are a lot of Warriors fans who never really warmed to Kevin Durant's were always going resentful of him being there and stealing some a step or a spotlight because a lot of Warriors fans who are Steph Curry you know stands more than anything and they don't want to never really wanted Kevin Durant the taking of a spotlight and that kind of think I we could've won it without him anyway they're wrong but. You know so I think that for later fans will be really interesting to Dan because they haven't really embraced the Brawn through year one like it's a really kind of I think distance relationship right now that Le Bron and l.a. Have with each other now and in part that's because the way the season went in part because he got there as a guy who was already a decorated champion in multiple time in bt And he didn't do it on on their watch and so they're not sure what to make of him and now a d. Is another hired gun and then collide is going to come in as a hired gun and I know that's been the Laker way in in the past but it's usually been a combination of homegrown and hired guns. So it's it's a still it's a strange dynamic in terms of how the embrace that team but listen Google acres you know and then they're fans of championships more than anything and having to live there would almost guarantee it I'm not sure it's good for the if we're going to go back to the one you know for the league what's good for the game code while and join the Clippers would be excellent having a true l.a. Versus l.a. Rivalry would be great the fact that the Nets are now casting a whole new light because Kyrie Irving and Katie chose them and so the 2 teams in that are you know the that the stepchild in their markets the Clippers and nets both having done a lot of great work last years to earn that and if they both come out of this with all stars is also good for the health of the league in that it shows that hey look if you put things together the right way and you build a foundation and you're smart the top talent will want to come to you. Leave you with this with the Knicks game plan I know it's easy to pick on them but I was trying to defend you know the Knicks that maybe they were just be imprudent with Kevin Durant's but if Kevin Durant was not going to the Knicks have Kyra he wanted to go to the nets he wanted to play with Kyrie and bring in the Andre Jordan but I don't understand why we're ripping the Knicks because they didn't want to give Kevin Durant's a a 5 year they didn't want to give him the max deal but if he wasn't going there then it didn't they could give him you know 50 years it didn't matter they he was not going there in the 1st place or my missing something here because it doesn't feel like he was ever considering the Knicks are truly considering the Knicks. I reported this yesterday and the quote I got from somebody who's very knowledgeable in the situation said there was quote 0 chance that the contract from the Knicks con any contract offer from the ex had anything to do with Kevin Durant's going there 00 chance he could he chose the nets over the next in part because Kyrie was going to go to the nets and they want to play together and in part because he and Kyrie both had concluded over the course of the season that the Nets were in much better shape. Than the Knicks were and that they were the better place to land and so it didn't matter whether the Knicks were offering one year to year 4 years 100 years max not mean it didn't matter that he wasn't going to go there so the Knicks are off the hook in that regard but I will say this putting that out there making sure that people knew we were going to go to the to the wall on it is absolutely self-serving because you're trying to get yourself off the hook in the sense that you're trying to show that we were being prudent we were being thoughtful we were trying not to do something dumb and that's why we lost him no that's not why you didn't get him and by the way everybody else in the league would have taken the risk and given the 4 you're Max again with the Achilles Yeah so I that does not get them off the hook and then there's still the fact of what they did in the wake of not getting the targets that they wanted and by the way that's the thing they're there it's disingenuous for the Knicks to try to pretend that they weren't all out for Katie Kyrie and by the way yonder Jordan peace who the Mets also got it just generous to say they were targeting that package the entire season that's exactly what they wanted they didn't get it just you know acknowledge that you missed and move on and you know the guys that they signed I'm not sure where it gets them I'm not sure how this advances their cause it makes them slightly better next year but I don't I don't know what the next plan is right now no I I know for a fact from a source and the quote that I got from somebody with the Knicks was is long as we don't screw this up we're going to get cabin Duran that was the quote that I was I was given that quote late in the see during the plan is long as we don't screw it up we're going to get Kevin Durant's But imagine if they had gotten Zion Williams. Now how would that change anybody's mind of wanting to play the next I think it would have given them more pause for sure Now listen I'm the 1st to say and I always will say this and this includes i Williams And it is extremely rare for a rookie to come in and be ready to win on day one and Zion Williams and certainly has some work to do in terms of developing his game at the n.b.a. Level he is an incredible let it just dynamo and he's going to have a very good n.b.a. Career there's not universal you know just agreement that he's going to be a superstar and so on day one if you're hiring Katie and you need a team that can win immediately because you know in certain cases case you're older then I don't know if that would have done enough or not because the rest of the Knicks rosters still pretty and but it will be and his team it would have been Zions team not Katie and Katie one whose own team Katie Katie Katie wouldn't have thought of a desire on steam I don't think. Fans. Fans Well maybe I also but then I also think this if they had gotten the draft right design if they'd won the lottery I think there would have been a strong temptation and probably even a very good case to be made that they should have that they should then trade that pick to get the veterans that they need to create the team that Katie and Kyrie could win with immediately So how do you as a universe how about if you're the Knicks and you can only have one you can have Zion or Katie. Zion or post Achilles Katie Yeah. I'm going to take I'm going to take Zion only because. When Katie comes back he's going to be 32 he's turning 32 in Sept I think it's September of 2020 and we don't see expect to see him play until October 2020 and if nothing else it's the fact that I don't feel like I'm gonna get enough a long enough run with him and was Ion Even though like I'm still in kind of like the let's wait and see camp I'm not proclaiming Zion of them between a 10 time All-Star yet. I don't know what he's going to be I do know that getting a guy on day one especially is exciting a player as he is and having him for Priest potentially his whole career letting your team grow with him your fans grow with him the emotional investment and the payoff that that brings is more satisfying and healthier for the franchise because it gives you an identity that endures for longer and Katie is you know on the you know the back end of his career he's the senior n.b.a. Writer for Bleacher Report Howard great to check in with you thank you as always thank you Dan right he will take a break got our play that is coming up stat of the day and what Gates poll results right after this. 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You're going to go there you know win 2 titles they're not going to love you you're going to promise would dream on green and Steph Curry's team and you're not going to get credit like you should get credit and there you're going to blow out your Achilles and they're going to honor you by giving you a retired jersey Johnny boy tweets Yeah he got 2 rings dummy is he calling me a dummy Are you a dummy makes me a good good call me a dummy too because I'm the one that came up with a question this from Dane who says he couldn't win a title with Westbrook harden and a prime of Baka had to join a champion coming off a record breaking $73.00 win season to get a ring said probably not regretful for joining a champion because it's the only way he could have won a ring Jeff tweets never going to be something we look back on and remember Katie we will remember the Warriors as a whole with him is part of that I think he wants to be the headline Josh tweets of course he would yes he helped win titles but he never would have gotten to the finals without the Warriors a lot of digs at Katie in their subtle passive aggressive then got mock headlines with which this related to does related to the Warriors deciding to retire Katie's jersey of poetry year stint Ok on short notice for she with mock headlines. They were going to start it up starting off with golden late hit make it up to Katie now . 30 just golden stables and old and late 30 job retiring Jersey reeks of p.r. Move 30 John 35 is his number Kevin can wait and he too soon to even consider that Ok. He got lame we could tempt an apology for injured superstar that he and I weren't Yeah I got a couple more warriors should get f. For k. D. Phony honor where it should get f. King. Or is trying to curry favor with Kemp. And we'll wrap it up with a Chili's reception Durant's honor leaves fans limp that have a Killie's. To rant on or leaves fans limp I thought there's be something I like a Southwestern egg roll. Let's see how it works in like Chili's or Applebee's or something when really I want to quote a little more. And a little more what little thought of my point maybe I took a chance I was hoping to Chili's we could pick up a Killie's on a chilly in a white limb and see if they're if they're going to kill you and you're probably not walking just right if I limp in around a little bit but I need crutches like. That's not a sexual innuendo it's leg being limp thank you to that I had lunch with Todd right we're going to keep this poll question since it's the journey people are saying that yeah it was a great but compared to Todd's headline that was the Taj I got a call when I got to quickly shift gears here I get into the topic I did have a poll question that might be I don't even know if it's fair to ask is a us women's team too cocky yes or no. Well then we have to decide the difference between confidence and cocky what would make you think that they're cocky. I haven't seen any just now that 131 where that 13 was the big goal they have and the fact that they're really good celebrators you know which it no I don't think they're cocky but I think that's where the perception comes from and that they're so good but I think you have to understand there's a bigger picture with this in how we celebrate because if you go back in history you go back and you're watching sporting events in the seventy's you don't see a lot of this you know they make it about me and then all of a sudden you know you had the high 5 then you're allowed to be full of expression these athletes today have grown up in a society in a t.v. Society where we seek out that person you want Face Time you you're demonstrative you're in a sport that's very demonstrative because there aren't that many goals and when there are you make it about yourself you want everybody to know look at what I just did you know you got guys who are sliding on their knees or taken their shirt and putting it over their heads you know you bring attention to yourself because there aren't that many goals scored in soccer and that's what they're doing now point you score 13 I had a problem with when you when you get to 10 then I just think let's go let's get the game over with I know the tiebreaker in goal differential I get all of that you could handle that better that's so you however you want to score and celebrate against France or in England today great you know pretty Now when can a celebration in the moment just be a celebration you just excite in the moment supposed to I just think you mean I don't really know your program that way I think today's athlete is programmed to celebrate everything they do. 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There's been a report numerous reports that the Knicks didn't offer Kevin Durant's a max deal but wasn't he going to Brooklyn anyway. Even in the room bringing you the biggest guests and the best sports to make. You more than. If this was Jerry West we would look at this differently and what if they we're. Going to slip my criticism. From the Mercedes This is Dan Patrick our on this Tuesday Dan in the Dan at stand Patrick show coming up in about 15 minutes he's the Brooklyn Nets shooting guard one the 3 point shooting contest Joseph Joe Harris Joe is his nickname he will join us on the program we'll talk about his new team and if he's allowed to mention them by name I don't know because Doesn't the paperwork become official next week with Kevin Duran and Kyrie Irving and everybody else here. Yeah right. I don't want to get him in trouble so we should we should at least ask Joe if he's allowed to talk about or can I do it in vague terms or descriptions here guy who is going to get his jersey retired by a West Coast team do people really think Joe Harris is like moving the needle tampering here and determining where people go now I don't know if you're allowed to remember there are times when we've gotten people find and Steve Kerr was just joking that day where he was with the Phoenix Suns and he said that they were going to offer Le Bron the mid-level exception or something and I think he got fined like you know 10 or $15000.00 I don't want to get anybody in trouble here yes point Joe Harris by the way he led the league in 3 point shooting last year he was $47.00 and a half percent from 3 you know that's not why I got some other numbers here now that we're on the topic of gentleman Joe hair's he has a career for.